29 Jul 2015 09:39:19
There is some remarkable ignorance or faux outrage getting printed in here regards Scott Allan. You would honestly think Rangers had never made a transfer before or had never done it for money at least. I appreciate you haven't done it much lately but come on. Okay where to start.

gfella - "if SA has submitted a transfer request and Hibs say no what happens then?" Well this is where the UN table a motion gfella, parliament scolds Hibs mercilessly and Jerry Dammers writes a song called Free Scotty Allan. Aung Suu Kyi says she and the people of Myanmar will not be truly free till Scott Allan signs for the Gers. Get a grip man!

Alaska "been lied to by his manager" Oh lying managers, on just how many occasions, even down to not reading contracts and making bogus claims of trusting people did McCoist lie to you guys in the past few seasons? "Getting stick off social media." Did you hear some of the abuse McCoist, the board and even Ian Black got from Rangers fans, did it change one thing? Erm no.

kfraser "the bid from us should have been anticipated" What makes you think it wasn't? The fact that it didn't go your way? Could it possibly be they did anticipate it and had decided to say No regardless? Or even no in an attempt to get more cash. Did that even remotely cross your mind?

kfraser then calls it a debacle which is correct but it is a debacle of Rangers making arguably, couldn't this bid have been made a few weeks ago rather than days before a game between the clubs? Which was always going to make it more emotive, now I actually don't mind it as such, it was gamesmanship and given the score, ultimately it worked but do any of you think it improved relations between the clubs? Because I don't.

Had he got a bad injury at the weekend who was paying his wages till healed, that's right Hibs, so they are well within their rights doing what they want because he is their player.

As for some of you getting your knickers in a twist about a player wanting to leave a club and not being allowed to. In what became his last season Brian Laudrup was already making noises about leaving, David Murray with typical hubris, was convinced he could talk him round rather than sell him with a season of his contract left. It failed and he said afterwards he would never do it again. Every club has had players who would rather be elsewhere, did Jelavic beg to be chained to Ibrox rather than go? Now I appreciate he has handed in a transfer request and is a Rangers fan but so what, a contract is a contract, it protects both parties and if this is how Hibs choose to do business after a late, mischievous bid by Rangers last week, then suck it up and stop acting like spoiled brats, faux outraged at everything because Rangers aren't getting their way against a smaller Scottish team boo f***ing hoo!

It is the nature of the game or have some of you forgot that? The whole footballing world does not revolve around what Rangers want though I get the impression this might come as a shock to some of you.

1.) 29 Jul 2015
29 Jul 2015 10:34:25
Gaz I can't disagree with what you have said.

Unfortunatley it looks like SA is caught in some tugg of war between the two clubs and the media are loving it. Sells papers they are under the impression nobody wants to read about sport unless its scandalious.

Rangers should have put a decent offer at the start not saying it would have changed hibs minds but it may not have got their backs up.

2.) 29 Jul 2015
29 Jul 2015 11:02:33
Im confused as to what rangers have actually done wrong. They have placed 2 bids for a player that is out of contract at the end of the season and clearly wants to come to ibrox. The manager hasn't been commenting on this saying he wants to be respectful of other clubs players. The rangers board haven't said anything to the media and they have placed the bids through the correct channels. If we get alan great if not then we will get him at the end of the season so I have no idea what your post is actually trying to achieve

3.) 29 Jul 2015
29 Jul 2015 11:30:24
As per Gaz making a mountain out of a mole hill. It's ok, you are allowed to vent your frustrations. Gfella asks a normal question in relation to Scott Allan and hibs ,yet you manage to bring Aung Suu Kyi into the equation? odd response.

4.) 29 Jul 2015
29 Jul 2015 11:58:16
It's a normal question Nippon? Has he never seen a transfer dispute before, is he five? What happens is Rangers either stop, raise the bid and at the other end Hibs still say no or accept it, he can see the whole gambit of transactions at any car boot sale if he requires further "bartering" info. If the PFA get involved then rip up every contract on the planet, if Allan downs tools then that is his decision to make. That aside it is a case of supply and demand like every financial tussle ever.

A lot of the time it is posturing, I remember clearly Alex Ferguson saying "We will never sell Ronaldo to THAT club." Not even Real or Madrid, THAT club. Where did he end up? Now surely gfella didn't need any advice on will the bidding goes up or that's it, or did he really think "we're Rangers we must have some other trick up our sleeve that no other transfer in history has adopted", trust me Nippon the question was stranger than my response.

Rossw they haven't done anything wrong to my mind, was gamesmanship, nothing more nothing less, not an ideal time for it from Hibs perspective obviously, so you reap what you sow, Hibs in turn are being equally combative. Done three weeks ago he might have been a Rangers sub last weekend, who knows.

What my post is trying to achieve is open some of your eyes to the Hibs perspective, turn all this 180 degrees, they are the bigger club, want your best player, come in with a derogatory initial bid days before a cup game, keenest rivals for promotion etc etc etc, are you surprised how they have reacted? Of course bloody not, so why are most folk in here going ape sh*t about it, why won't they let him go, take the money, it's a profit, the abuse is terrible, their manager lied to him, blah, blah, blah. HE'S THEIR PLAYER THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT!

5.) 29 Jul 2015
29 Jul 2015 10:36:27
The main point is hibs could have just never released that Rangers had made a bid and none of this would ever have happened and there's a difference to what's being said to SA on twitter it's beyond sick. It's always amazing how anything Rangers do is wrong even trying to transfer a player I thought that's what football was all about concentrate on other teams buying Dundee utd's best players for a song and not and ripple it's amazing.I think the word hypocrite springs to mind.

6.) 29 Jul 2015
29 Jul 2015 11:05:02
That leech was better than a swig of Night Nurse.

7.) 29 Jul 2015
29 Jul 2015 12:48:00
I see Gaz has been on the adhesive substances early. Strange post from an oddball. Can us Gers fans start talking about what the team should be against Peterhead on Sunday and then look forward to the St. Mirren game after that - with our without Scott Allan.

My take on Sunday's rout was that the team looked really, really good second half. Tavernier looks a class act and Wallace was back to his old self again. I'd still like to see Murdoch back in the middle of the park alongside Halliday and Law and if Kenny Miller continues in this scoring vein he could be our super sub this season. 14/1 for the Scottish Cup might be a tempting bet!

8.) 29 Jul 2015
29 Jul 2015 13:23:16
DOIGER have a look at my last two opening threads in the finance page if your looking for a different type of clarity from me. Always Blue the point is had Dundee United knocked us back indefinitely I'd have said so what, move on. Celtic have had a ton of speculated transfers fall through or declined, not once have I held it against the player or club involved. The only time I did get mad was in one that did go through where Villa and John Gregory in particular made it awkward for Alan Thompson to sign, even going to the bitchy levels of playing him in an Inter-Toto game to effectively cup-tie him for Europe, that aside the owning club is within their rights to do whatever they want. So far Hibs have said no, stop bleating and deal with it.

9.) 29 Jul 2015
29 Jul 2015 15:01:32
I don't bleat that's Aberdeen fans your thinking of.If we get him now great if next season great we can't lose I just find it amazing the interest our club generates amongst other fans.Why not tell us why you feel so morally offended by it.

10.) 29 Jul 2015
29 Jul 2015 16:31:59
Did you read the first post always blue, it's the contradictory lengths you go to, a manager lied, first in history - maybe not, player is unhappy - first in history - no. So why the big deal, not you specifically, across the board, as I said earlier maybe try putting yourselves in Hibs fans/board shoes and then seeing if you see their actions as so unreasonable, a bit of context in other words.

As for the interest you generate, at the weekend I hadn't been on for a few days, Rangers get a good result and without a single Celtic fan anywhere near any current thread Mannering sees fit to mention myself, Fab1 and DH88, maybe it's all about the Celtic in all reality, would the suggestion that you are obsessed with us cause offense? :)

11.) 29 Jul 2015
29 Jul 2015 17:09:12
Gaz if I was obsessed by celtic I would probably be on the celtic banter page and to wish someone and their family dead is way beyond being upset.Hibs fans do have the right to want to keep their best players just as other teams have the right to buy them.I think this whole thing is ridiculous and people are getting carried away as I said if we get him great if not his are stuck with a unhappy player for a year what's the point.

12.) 29 Jul 2015
29 Jul 2015 18:42:08
Always blue you can't get best wishes for Ricksen or Jardine posted here without some nugget disagreeing, there are Rangers sites where the things said of Tommy Burns, Neil Lennon and even Jinky would make you blush. Every club has their idiots and I mean every club, some of the terms used for Ally in recent times are up there with anything said of Scott Allan lately I'd imagine.

As for your question it doesn't matter what you or I think the point is. A former Ger and and former Hibs manager (Alex Miller) reckons selling to Rangers would cost them 5,000 seats a week, I think he's talking rubbish but it's just another perspective, chance of winning league diminished plus some loss in fans, lack of ambition it shows plus boost to Rangers, you could convince me that's worth more than £250,000 if I'm Hibs, that's for sure.

As for obsessed, it's a tired word, you are an amusement that's all but twice since Saturday I've been mentioned in here by name on threads I was nowhere near, I hadn't even said a word in days last week and on the night of the 6-2 game, surely a day for you all to be happy, I get mentioned, maybe the obsession lies elsewhere Always Blue.

13.) 30 Jul 2015
30 Jul 2015 12:41:09
Keep telling yourself that Gaz!