1.) 01 Nov 2016
01 Nov 2016 20:32:35
Personal opinion its a shocker, by letter of the law i suppose they are right, the poppy is now seen as a political sign by certain groups though it won't stop me honouring people who selflessly gave there all for us and i can see past stupid comments and actions, i won't name suspects because we all know.

2.) 01 Nov 2016
01 Nov 2016 20:44:32
Totally shocking in my opinion. There doesn't seem to be a problem with other international sports so why should there be with football?

3.) 01 Nov 2016
01 Nov 2016 21:19:58
Both teams should wear it and fingers to fifa uefa or whoever else has a problem with it! Pen pushers running football make me sick.

4.) 01 Nov 2016
01 Nov 2016 22:11:00
The poppy is a way to remember and teach people about the men and women who have fought for Britain's people and sovereignty.

It will be seen as political to those who feel no ties to it and rightly so.

A football team should be able to show their respect. But I can see why FIFA feel they need to prevent it, not that I can agree.

I will be out and showing my respect and I am sure all of you will have a thought on the day.

5.) 01 Nov 2016
01 Nov 2016 22:15:36
**** fifa they are crooks we should just wear them.

6.) 02 Nov 2016
01 Nov 2016 23:36:07
FIFA should be told to bugger off. If they don't like it they can fine both countries but that doesn't mean that the fines should be paid. A shower of crooks that are clueless, totally clueless and seem to go out of their way to piss people off!

7.) 02 Nov 2016
01 Nov 2016 23:37:26
FIFA seem to want us not to wear the poppy as it can be seen as 'political' yet have no problem letting football fans observe a minutes silence whenever a political leader like Nelson Mandela dies.

Their hypocrisy is astounding.

8.) 02 Nov 2016
02 Nov 2016 03:45:37
Utter disgrace. Disgusting. Never political ever. Only a memorial. Time to be shot of these crooks and wasters.

9.) 02 Nov 2016
02 Nov 2016 09:46:18
Just imagine England were playing Germany, Argentina, Iraq or Afghanistan.

Do you think it would be right for them to wear a poppy on their shirt commemorating the armed forces who bombed, killed and tortured their people?

FIFA are right not to allow the poppy and despite what some of you may think it is a political symbol as the poppy has been heavily politicised, especially in recent years.

My opinion is keep war and football separate. I am all for the wearing of the poppy and remembering fallen loved ones, just don't bring it into football. My only gripe with the poppy is how the government changed what the poppy meant by including armed servicemen from other conflicts. This change was not done because they cared but because of the public backlash to the invasion of Iraq.

10.) 02 Nov 2016
02 Nov 2016 10:26:51
yeah how dare England or scotland or any country in the world want to remember the dead! fifa are a disgrace.

11.) 02 Nov 2016
02 Nov 2016 10:41:27
Wearing the poppy brings with it a new kind of conflict. Inside of me. Is there a difference between the servicemen and women of the first two world wars and the servicemen and women of the perpetual modern third world war? I wear the poppy regardless and remember those that have lost their lives to protect my way of life but is the war narrative our government has created over the last couple of decades the same or is it different from the narrative that was forced upon us on two occasions last century?

Also, does it matter that there was no monetary compensation or motivation for the heroes of the first 2 WW? I don't know.

A hero is a hero and I remember all those who have lost their lives bending to our government's will but not without conflict within myself.

12.) 02 Nov 2016
02 Nov 2016 10:47:40
the poppy should be worn with or without permission they all foret if it was not for britain the world would be a bigger mess today whih the swiss twie remained neutral.

13.) 02 Nov 2016
02 Nov 2016 11:10:43
I suggest you read about what some of these so called heroes actually did to innocent people across the globe.

Torture, Castration, Hanging, Using Chemical Weapons, Carpet Bombing, Using depleted uranium shells, Starving people to death, Shooting and Mutilation are just some of the acts carried out by your heroes against innocent people.

If you think commemorating these people in a football match is warranted then you are a sick individual.

14.) 02 Nov 2016
02 Nov 2016 11:15:09
Your spot on naz their happy to have 2minute silence for the game and i guarantee they will but players can't show there respect in a different way, its utter nonsense.

15.) 02 Nov 2016
02 Nov 2016 15:59:47
it's to remember all the dead not just British, it's to remember everybody it's people like you who try to turn it into something else.

16.) 02 Nov 2016
02 Nov 2016 16:21:57
Here is the exact words from the British legion poppy appeal

"This year, The Royal British Legion is asking the nation to Rethink Remembrance by recognising the sacrifices made not just by the Armed Forces of the past, but by today’s generation too.

For many people, Remembrance is associated with the fallen of the First and Second World Wars. While we will always remember them, the Legion wants to raise awareness of a new generation of veterans and Service personnel that need our support.

Rethink Remembrance this Poppy Appeal. "

Would appear you are mistaken Cee.

17.) 02 Nov 2016
02 Nov 2016 17:05:08
Boss hogg here's hpping you don't need one of them to save your ass in an act of terrorism then, i lost a mate in afghan with the paras, so i will wear my poppy with pride,

18.) 02 Nov 2016
02 Nov 2016 17:25:55
How are they going to save me from an act of terrorism?

If anything their actions in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria and Libya are putting me more at risk of an act of terrorism. From my recollection there were no terrorist attacks from Muslim fundamentalists until we invaded Iraq illegally.

Anyway, I am happy for you to wear your poppy and to remember your mate, just keep it away from the football.

19.) 02 Nov 2016
02 Nov 2016 18:39:53
Booshogg = Corbyn.

20.) 02 Nov 2016
02 Nov 2016 19:10:15
Why don't you try attacking the points I make, rather than resort to name calling?

Are you not capable of a proper debate?

21.) 02 Nov 2016
02 Nov 2016 20:17:05
I'll attack a point you've made Hogg. You mention something about "our so called heroes" carrying out atrocious acts?

Every act you described pal can be summarised with one word. It's called WAR. Our heroes do the dirty work so you don't have to.

Like I said previously, it's not our soldier's fault that our government have created a war narrative over the past two decades. If you've got a problem then take it up with the politicians. The soldiers are just following orders in what they are told is the best thing to protect our country and in turn US.

22.) 02 Nov 2016
02 Nov 2016 21:31:45
BossHogg,

Every act you describe us having done apart from shooting, are war crimes and if you read the Geneva convention, protocol and convention on certain conventional weapons you will understand that our armed forces all have strict restrictions and we all understand the laws of armed conflict.

Any member found guilty of ignoring these laws will be prosecuted to the full extend of the law.

Don't just post nonsense and put people down under one blanket.

23.) 02 Nov 2016
02 Nov 2016 21:41:07
Let's give it its full title, which is not war, it is war crimes what I described above, if you doubt that then I suggest you read the Geneva Convention.

You are still calling them heroes, which means that you think it is heroic to do all the things I described against civilians in countries who have done nothing to hurt the people of the UK. If this is the case then I find you despicable as you think it is OK to torture, castrate, rape, mutilate, kill and starve innocent people to death.

You also say that they do the dirty work so I don't have to. But let's be clear here, no one had to do any dirty work in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria or Libya as we should not have been involved in any of these conflicts.

As I stated previously, the government are the main war mongers, so we are in agreement there. However, that does not absolve our armed forces of blame. The reason I say that is that they have a choice, yes it may end up with them being court martialed or dismissed from the forces for refusing to carry out these acts against civilians. However, I would have a lot more respect for them if they stood up and said they were not going to carry out these atrocities and put the British people at risk of terrorist attacks.

Our acts in these countries result in what the intelligence services call "blowback", so don't give me that crap that they are protecting us because the opposite is true.

24.) 02 Nov 2016
02 Nov 2016 22:09:26
BossHogg,

The things you say we do are war crimes and were committed by criminals not soldiers, sailors or airmen.

A poppy is a symbol for people to remember those we have lost, not politically motivated.

You mentioned the British legion stance on poppies and said cee was wrong and that only British war dead are remembered through wearing a poppy.

This is also wrong, many foreign people have fought and died alongside our armed forces, for example many Polish, American, Canadian and new Zealand pilots volunteered to assist the RAF during the Battle of Britain and many other efforts during WW2.

These people died for our country and as a nation we remember them all, not just the British ones.

This is my third attempt to reply to this thread.

25.) 02 Nov 2016
02 Nov 2016 22:12:04
Bosshogg these are the same hero, s who gave their life so people like you can have your opinion. You are entitled to your opinion but to slate the men women and children who died so you can have said opinion beggers believe.