01 Sep 2019 07:07:50
I don't care what other fans do I just want to see Rangers stick up for us fans for once. Get uefa to define offensive singing and define sectarian singing (is The Sash sectarian for example) . EVERY club has songs that contain swearing and words that are "offensive" to their opposition should they be censored? Every week i'm called a person (usually followed by the B word) up and down the country.

I only speak English so I don't know (or care) what abuse is being thrown my way when we travel abroad but it would be naive to think no racial or indeed religious insults are being dished out. I just want fairness and Rangers should be ensuring we get that rather than just rolling over and taking what's unfairly given to us.


1.) 01 Sep 2019
01 Sep 2019 08:35:23
Jyf, I don't care what other fans do I only care about what we do and in my opinion Rangers as an institution need to move on from our association with any sectarian crap. What other clubs do or whether they are just as bad as us is irrelevant to me, we should act according to our own standards.

I would say though that now we have been punished by UEFA, the SFA will be looking for the next available opportunity to jump on the bandwagon. Please don't give them the chance, let go and support our team with passion but in a manner we can be proud of!


2.) 01 Sep 2019
01 Sep 2019 10:21:03
Why do we need UEFA to tell the fans what they can and can't sing? Let's get real here for a minute - EVERY fan should know and feel what their songs mean and the implications contained within them - if not then the fan is either a liar or a dolt. We should be honest amongst ourselves first and look in a mirrior and ask ourselves why we sing certain songs. If we can do that then we don't need UEFA - we just need the common sense and maturity to stop it. The problem is the trickle down of hate and intolerance to our young ones - a few of our fathers made a stand to wipe it out - can we do the same and give our kids a team to follow instead of a cause? I have been reading this page for a while and some of the comments from some of you guys in blue have been VERY encouraging so well done to you guys.
Now let's have a cracking game and do the Scottish league proud.


3.) 01 Sep 2019
01 Sep 2019 10:22:43
Behave Jyf you know full well what songs are offensive. Stop being a snowflake. You also know Uefa aren't trying to stop swearing. The club has stuck up for fans for years, allowing all that sectarian p*sh to be song at Ibrox. Its now got to stop, the club has to move on, maybe you should try to the same.


4.) 01 Sep 2019
01 Sep 2019 11:12:31
JYF,
Don't think UEFA need to tell us what is offensive. We ain't stupid. Remember as wee boy at JG testimonial we all got song sheets with non offensive songs on them. Start? And cmon, of course sash offensive, it's historically anti catholic. I can just hear some saying but it's our heritage. Baloney, no more, we are Rangers, Super. Rangers, now youll like us, to be fair (Joke) You could almost say new club, brilliant new manager, new start?


5.) 01 Sep 2019
01 Sep 2019 was 11:45:48
Excellent post Jyf. I've lived in England since 1984 and have often been called a 'Jock' or a 'sweaty sock'. I don't consider that to be offensive or sectarian. The Sash and Derry's Walls are about history so why would they be deemed as sectarian, though the swearing should be left out. Sectarian simply means of or characteristic of a sect, a sect being a small group of followers within a larger group.
However, in this day and age we should ditch these songs and avoid controversy, especially those shouting . Follow Follow and the Blue Sea of Ibrox are great songs. Swearing happens all the time at matches and I don't see that as necessary and consider it offensive if I'm at a game, especially if my wife is with me. As for today's team, I agree with Paul86 apart from I'd have Barisic starting ahead of Flanagan.