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10 Jun 2017 23:15:48
Was thinking about Mckays future and the fact we must submit a team list for the Europa Cup. Will we be putting Mckays name down? We must get him to make a decision and surely he isn't going to act like a div.
If he is not going to sign he must let us know so we can put the strongest squad together.
Maybe he has let the Club know he doesn't want to sign which imo is the case

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1.) 10 Jun 2017 23:48:08
Isn't he surplus wasn't the new deal withdrawn


2.) 11 Jun 2017 02:46:43
McKay can f off, overrated numpty whose more concerned with his hair doo! Jamie Walker is twice the player with half the plaudits. With Dalcio and Candias arriving, I am more than confident he will not be missed!


3.) 11 Jun 2017 04:00:30
As far as I'm aware he knocked our first offer which was about 3-4 wks ago I think? Anyways he's sitting tight waiting for a second offer. If I'm wrong then someone tell me as imo this needs to get sorted ASAP due to the fact that we must submit our squad list for the Europa Cup.
No point putting him on it if he ain't going to sign whether he gets Transfered before or after the 18th!
And if it's Forest who are interested then you can bet we won't get a bid until last minute.


4.) 11 Jun 2017 06:09:58
Think we're being a bit hard on the boy. We don't know what he's been offered. He's every right to look after his own interests just as any other player would no matter what level they're at. As for his ability, to me he's the best young player we've brought through in last 10 years. His confidence though is shot to pieces. i would think playing with a bit of stability and more quality in front and behind him, he would hopefully flourish. Some of the comments i read about him are a disgrace


5.) 11 Jun 2017 09:32:54
Going by the season he has had I just don't think he has been good enough this season to earn a big pay rise contract, I might be wrong but in my opinion he found his level in the championship in Scotland and really can't see him cutting it in the championship in England if he ends up there with warburton or any other team down there


6.) 11 Jun 2017 09:57:04
It was clearly documented that a new offer hadn't been offered. It was just the press talking about a new one. McKay said in an interview that he can't refuse something that wasn't offered and Pedro said it was being looked at with no confirmation. Either way I rate the kid. He has potential but needs to be playing with a higher caliber of midfield to assist him when he gets cornered, to offer him options and to help him move the ball. Plus- he isn't a left winger, should be played on the right or through the middle


7.) 11 Jun 2017 10:42:04
I DO THINK that McKay will be a £5m plus player in a couple of Seasons. Whether it's here or down South in Championship he will get there. But right now he must inform the Club what it is he wants as we cannot mess around due to the time we have left to submit our squad! .
Would love to know just how much we have offered. I think we would go as high as 15k a week which due to his current form is a decent offer. But again got a feeling that his agent may have his ear plus the likes of Forest imo could prob afford to top that and give him 20k a week.
Is he currently worth that and is it a gamble we can afford. Like I said I do think that he will be a top player but we've been busy with Transfers and brought in Dalcio and Candieas.
Hyndsight is wonderful but it's how Pedro see's it.


8.) 11 Jun 2017 11:27:42
Calm down on the Europa league registration guys. You register a squad for the qualifiers and then there's another registration date for the group stages where changes can be made. Although the main problem will be having enough home grown (played for 3 years between 15 and 21 in scotland) players to register. You need a min of 4 home grown at club and another 4 hone grown in Scotland.


9.) 11 Jun 2017 12:00:02
I completely agree with you Chinabairn. Some of the comments on here about Mckay are disgrace. You can see the kid has talent. He is going to be low in confidence if he reads all these massively negative comments about him. He is a good player and we should be keeping him.


10.) 11 Jun 2017 12:34:31
Mackay has football ability but lacks commitment and offers little defensively. While to can be argued that he should not be expected to be overly defensive which is fine but he generally comes over as a bit of a wimp that does not work hard enough or commit enough to 50:50 balls!

Should he be offered a new contract, possibly. Certainly we would be likely to get more for him if he was committed for three or four years rather than 12 months and he will have suffered just like the other players from the Warburton "no aggression" policy!

If MacKay would rather play for Warburton and the so called rangers man, Weir, that, like he did with Naismith will be trying to get another Rangers player on the cheap, then we don't really want him at Rangers but surely he wouldn't want to play for a manager was a total failure in the SPL!


11.) 11 Jun 2017 12:49:05
Mckay would be great player in better team, the lad had to constantly track back because our defence was so poor with a strong back four we could let him go and flourish.


12.) 11 Jun 2017 13:10:41
McKay is not good enough to be a luxury player and doesn't contribute enough or have the courage to be a solid team player. Sorry, I'm a great lover of kids of our own coming through, but Barrie's not going to be at the level required.


13.) 11 Jun 2017 14:54:07
McKay has the ability to be a a really good player but he is to fragile and can't put in a decent tackle he always backs out.


14.) 11 Jun 2017 16:38:43
Tom! "so called rangers man" give it a rest! Weir in his playing days gave his all for the club! Next u will hit us with "mccoist isn't a rangers man" because his managerial tenure!

Absolute nonsense


15.) 11 Jun 2017 22:51:10
Parky7720, I wouldn't worry about the home grown requirements for the Europe league squad - McKay, Wilson, Bates, Barjonas and Hardie all count as they came through our youth system. And Miller, Wallace, Holt and Jack all count as homegrown in Scotland. And even if any of the guys I've listed leave, all it would take is promoting the required number of players from our youth setup. There's definitely nothing to worry about with regards to the homegrown rules.


16.) 12 Jun 2017 14:46:45
simple answer to the problem with mckay he had little service and was marked out of most games as he was only danger man we had!

if we get him to sign on the dotted line we can get more for him in transfer fee.
if we sign him up we have at least another few monthas to see how he plays in a team with more than one attackingt threat and a defence that is going to be a lot lot better


 

 

07 Jun 2017 05:48:10
Anybody else heard about a another player from Mexico that we have been looking at called Raul Rudiaz? Striker.

Andy18721a

1.) 07 Jun 2017 07:52:11
Would love to get this lad he is clinical and no doubt score a barrowload of goals for us


2.) 07 Jun 2017 08:54:13
We were linked with him early on but haven't heard anything recently and not since Herrera's name started getting linked. Doubt we'd bring another striker in unless Garner and Waggy go.


3.) 07 Jun 2017 10:37:15
Andy 1872: Rudiaz is known as the Peruvian Messi.


4.) 07 Jun 2017 16:03:52
yes he is known as the peruvian messi but messi he is not .
he has good skill but the most impressive thing about him is tat he scores for fun and i'd like rangers to get him at all costs as hererra doesn't get me excited like this guy does and we all know waggy and garner are not up to the pace of top flite scottish football


5.) 08 Jun 2017 02:39:09
Rudiaz and his agent apparently confirmed he's off to/ wants to join Cruz Azul.


 

 

05 Jun 2017 01:12:25
Anybody know if and when we will publish the dates for the home fixtures for the games. involving our development Squad against the likes of Chelsea B. Munich etc. I read that these games will try and be held at Ibrox AND they definitely should be as it's a great chance to make a bit of cash (not huge amounts) but imo I think we would be the best supported team when it comes to attendances and I for one would love to go a great day out for youngsters too. Rangers must make sure to price it well i'd say a maximum £10 for an adult £5 for a child.
Again I really hope that we use Ibrox and I could see anything over 20k attending easily.
Thoughts Bears?

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1.) 06 Jun 2017 13:54:16
Canny see 20000 paying 10 quid a whip to watch a kids game. Not a chance.


 

 

 

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20 Jun 2017 14:56:53
Is it possible that due to the fact the number of tops sold was probably far lower than expected that the chance of sticking with the same top for next season is a possibility DUE to this reason? There must be huge amounts of stock and with a change to the Retail Deal may be the best option from a financial point of view.
So thoughts Bears do ee think that this is the road, we will go ddown because of this reason?

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18 Jun 2017 02:14:59
So fat bam Hartson says Ped should have invested in 3 players at £3-3.5m! What a thick fud. Guys like him Sutton and others were saying that Rangers needed to invest around £20m to challenge for the League!
I know that we haven't even seen the lads play but that aside the manky mob are definitely not a great team! They brought in a decent manager and added a few players 2 of which play IN the team.
As far as we are concerned its my opinion that the incident involving Barton changed the players and how they viewed the Manager. I think he made himself look weak the way he went about dealing with a player who basically told him his tactics didn't work, and some of the players weren't up to it!
If that had been Souness Smith or Advocatte they would not have needed someone like Halliday to jump in and would have known to rip the player to pieces in front of the squad. After that I think the playrrs lost respect and no matter how much you spend if some playrrs think your a div then its game over. We need a Manager who Playrrs respect and who knows when to pull a player up and when a player/ team deserve praise but yhe Manager MUST be seen to be a strong Leader

Andy18721a

1.) 18 Jun 2017 10:39:04
Hartson can't get over the fact we didn't sign him, anything we do he criticises us.


 

 

16 Jun 2017 13:32:11
There are certain things that I really want to hear about soon.
Firstly the time for King to speak to the fans to inform us of any change to our financial situation should be happening soon, I know that he could and would not be able to tell us the exact details but there must have been a change to Merchandise Deal. Perdonally I think he may inform us of the change on the same day the new kit is revealed.

Andy18721a

1.) 16 Jun 2017 16:00:37
What makes you think there has been a change to the merchandise deal?


2.) 16 Jun 2017 16:00:39
I don't see any change to the deal with our kits happening soon; sports direct seemingly have a water tight deal and we have a few years notice left to run unfortunately.

Take note of the fact that someone like Craig Whyte can be found not guilty; a good indication that Ashley would get off of any accusation of unlawful contracts etc.


3.) 16 Jun 2017 17:31:49
LDM just thinking that King and the Board have renegotiated the Merchandise Deal due to our spending. Its one of three things in my opinion. Change to Merch Deal, new investment or King just like he said had funds of around £30m when he first arrived and he now intends to spend it on Players. Season Ticket money has prob been used but money to pay wages (players and staff) Stadium up keep, expenditure on security on match days etc.
Season Ticket money alone could definitely not cover all these areas especially when the combination of just the Transfer Fees come to around £8-9m.
Apparently the income generated from Merchandise is usually something between £6-8m.
BUT could be way off and the finances could be coming from the men currently at Ibrox 100%.


4.) 16 Jun 2017 19:04:39
The money can't have come from 'new investment'as the motion to offer shares to new investers was voted down at the AGM last year. As there has been no new share issue then current shareholders haven't invested in the club either. Loans etc from the directors can not be classed as investment either, until such time as they may be converted to shares.


5.) 17 Jun 2017 08:44:38
Rafbob

I think it could go either way in court and I'm not so sure the contract is as water tight as you think. You just never know how these things can go and it would be better if we some how managed to sort things out of court. Fair play to King though for taking on the contemptible Ashley. This guy gets his own way for too much and his business practices are truly despicable


6.) 17 Jun 2017 09:41:30
Bengy,

I would happily jump in your boat and see Ashley's contract torn up, but I can't see that happening soon.

Hopefully you're right. 👍


 

 

15 Jun 2017 15:05:56
Would love iy if the new Away Top could incorporate the Blue Star we see the squad wearing in the black and white photo. Could have the RFC Crest inside it in white or a different shade of Blue if rules state it has to be on the top. Always thought that it would be an excellent idea, really itching to see what the new kit will look like AND hoping that King announces a change to the deal meaning we can buy it!
Any particular top from the past any other Bears would like to see our new kit resemble?

Andy18721a

1.) 15 Jun 2017 16:01:40
1996 - 9 in a row adidas strip. Best one we've had in my opinion.


2.) 15 Jun 2017 16:27:32
2004/ 05 Away. the Sash shirt (blue and red diagonal stripe)


3.) 15 Jun 2017 17:55:31
My personal favourite is the 2002 - 2003 treble winning strip


4.) 15 Jun 2017 20:22:36
1992 addidas, stripes on shoulder

treble season, undefeated in europe

'invincibles' lost 7-0.


 

 

15 Jun 2017 02:07:12
Does anybody know how many players make up the Squad we have to admit for the Europa Cup?

Andy18721a

1.) 15 Jun 2017 11:40:53
25 players pal. 2 goalkeepers (minimum)
8 locally trained players (trained with the club between the ages of 15 and 21)

goo.gl/Vc40o


2.) 15 Jun 2017 13:57:25
Why would you disagree with a fact?

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20 Jun 2017 15:54:07
What's the thought's and opinions on how much we will get for the Players that we hope to Transfer. I know we do not rate most of them but the rumour of a bid for Windass of 500k would be great. can't remember the Club that bid but if true I hope it happens. Thing is I do think the lad has potential but did not show it enough, never the less if he does have real talent as with the others all we need are a couple of Clubs to be interested and then the possibility of getting a bid of 150k then climbing to 400-500k. Most players are of a certain level and I still think that due to our situation Clubs that had an eye on our Playes were always going to put in late bids as the Clubs that are probably interested will see a saving of 100-200k substantial.
Anyways how much do we think we will be offered for the Players?
Again not asking there value but a guess on the bids.
Kiernan 150k. Halliday 150k
Forrester 200k O'halloran 250k
Windass 300k+ Crooks 200k
Wags 350k+ Dodoo 200k+
Can see bids for these Players coming in late as well as bids for others especially McKay and if he has not signed a Contract then a Club will chance a 1m bid and it could br accepted all we can hope for is 2 teams that have money to be interested. McKays value could soar but its a gamble, one that we may have no choice in not unless Pedro and King decide to keep the Player and judge him over the 6 months and may offer the Contract that he currently wants. This is all down to wages imo, what will we do what should we do?
The majority of our Transfer dealings are almost done with the pressure of getting a team together so early due to Europe. But other than hopefully getting offers for Players, Pedro I think may still want to get decent Clubs for our Youngsters to be loaned out to as well as bringing in some quality Players on loan.

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{Ed039's Note - £150k for Kiernan and £200k for forrester? If you think we will get any sort of fee for these players then please send me some of what you're having)


 

 

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19 Jun 2017 08:02:47
Weedan. Yeah I think so.
Wanted to know if anyone knows the last time Dorrans played for Norwich? Did he play final game? Heard he had an injury but don't know how long ago?
Info Bears.

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18 Jun 2017 07:55:47
Could be as simple as tying up things before coming over. Morelos was in Finland which is a fair bit closer than Mexico. If there was a problem with the work permits we would have heard OR the stigma about Mexicans taking there time all work in the Visa department?

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17 Jun 2017 20:44:13
Always thought Pedro seemed like a guy who would want to source his own Players. After reading about the man who may get the position I still think that this will be the case. Pedro does have the knowledge and the contacts to go after the Players he wants to bring in. i'm sure the new DOF will be involved in first team recruitment at some level.

In my opinion the new DOF with his background will be focusing on building up our Youth Teams and I think we have landed a top man to do exactly this. He will have knowledge of all the up and coming youth Players from Europe and probably beyond, and it is this that I think he will be asked to focus on.
Other than that he will probably be the person who is involved in the negotiations of out going Players.

I personally think that the guy has an excellent pedigree and because of his previous employers we could be in line to reep huge benefits. Hopefully due to him getting this post our relationship with Man. City could thrive and result in more Transfers/ loans between the two Club's.

Wonder if the appointment of Mark Allen will increase our chances of landing young Beerman's mate at Man. City the young CH?

Fingers crossed that this goes through, its great to see the Club bringing in qualty Players but its deals like this that could have a huge impact on the future of our Club. Another good bit of business from King and the Board.

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16 Jun 2017 18:06:37
Hope its true, the next thing I want to hear is a statement from the Club or even Pedro saying he's finished putting bids in for Walker!
Don't know who's making the decision to reject the bids if it is Cathro Levein or even Budge but once we walk away they will be kicking themselves. The lad wants to come and I think he will stay put until Jan even if another Team comes in for him as he will be pretty upset with tge Club AND Cathro will utilise him as he's too good to bench!
This I think is the route we MUST take, got a feeling that its Levein who is trying to play hard ball and once we walk away they will be gutted to lose out on £650k could even see them come back to us £650k is a huge amount to Hearts who are currently trying to raise funds to cover cost of building there new Stand.
Enough is Enough!

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18 Jun 2017 23:18:49
Read that Pedro has said he can see as many as FOURTEEN players leave Ibrox! Was wondering after the 8 that we pretty much were sure was on the list who could the other 6 be?
Heres my 8. Kiernan. Halliday. Forrester.
O'halloran. Windass. Crooks. Garner and Waghorn.
Do we think that Pedro was talking about some of the Younger lads? Burt. Rudden etc?
If he's thinking 14 then Holt and Dodoo's future may lay elsewhere. Thoughts.

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17 Jun 2017 22:09:51
I know this is OUR page but just wanted to mention the funny grumbles that I've been hearing from the dark side, seems there no too happy with their Teams expenditure. And this is the thing that albeit the phase our Club went through were we really were struggling financially and when King etc then came in and we were told that financially King and tge Board had secured funds that would be spent so that our Club could compete. It seemed Warbs had been given X amount and then King lost faith resulting in funds being stopped which at the time was taken to mean that King did not have the money and loans, freebies and any transfers were going to be between £200k to £500k Max!
Now that Warbs is gone and King seems to have faith in Ped our combined outlay of recent transfers stand at £8-9m.
Thing is IF our Club had been fortunate enough to generate income with the only, Club to challenge no where to be seen I can guarantee you that WE WOULD give our Support something to shout about with transfers fitting our financial status. Where as the tic just love hugging that biscuit tin.
No doubt they will bring in a player at X million but you can just tell they DON'T want too.
If we had the backing of the SFA and found ourselves in the position to generate the funds that manky mob in the East have done then talks of players like Nani arriving WOULD have substance.
With the right Manager and with a decent amount spent on Quality Players the League is a possibility. Always thought the talk of us having to invest £20m to have a chance of winning the Title was really OTT! Our squad had really lost touch with our Manager and THE biggest factor in our challenge for the Lge will be the faith our Players have in Pedro and he must have them wanting to play for him that in my opinion was a huge factor in the tics performances.

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16 Jun 2017 17:31:49
LDM just thinking that King and the Board have renegotiated the Merchandise Deal due to our spending. Its one of three things in my opinion. Change to Merch Deal, new investment or King just like he said had funds of around £30m when he first arrived and he now intends to spend it on Players. Season Ticket money has prob been used but money to pay wages (players and staff) Stadium up keep, expenditure on security on match days etc.
Season Ticket money alone could definitely not cover all these areas especially when the combination of just the Transfer Fees come to around £8-9m.
Apparently the income generated from Merchandise is usually something between £6-8m.
BUT could be way off and the finances could be coming from the men currently at Ibrox 100%.

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16 Jun 2017 16:34:05
Yeah Parky but I would have just thought that using an Aiden Wilson or another up and coming player who holds that position. Prob nothing in it.
Wonder if there was anybody watching the game from Clubs poss interested in taking players on loan?

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16 Jun 2017 14:39:30
I wonder what Pedro is thinking in regards to playing O'halloran at RB? By all accounts I thought he was off but using him in a pre-season game and especially at RB does throw me.
Surely he can't be thinking of actually trying to convert him?
Im really hoping that we have Clubs lined up for players to go on loan if we cannot move them on and I thought O'halloran would prob be one of yhe most difficult as we paid 500k for him and is prob on wages he won't get in a league he may end up in. So we would be taking a hit in the Transfer Fee and may need to pay him X amount regarding loss of earnings. Frustrating as he did look promising and maybe a loan move could benefit all parties?
Regarding the other players who are not in Pedro's plans OR guys like Rudden Diamond even Dodoo should be used on loan to get in a young player like Knox. We could even let Livingston keep him for the Season and develop

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