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24 Jan 2018 18:59:16
Brilliant piece of business with Docherty.
Was complete at the weekend, Hamilton
Wanted Bates or Halliday on loan.
Rangers stood firm, sell on clause inserted and if the lad builds on his potential, we have secured a good player who could become great.
Heard that Nico Krancjar, maybe heading back to the states and allowed to go for free.
Miller will be on the coaching staff next year. Expect, Halliday, Holt, hodson, Cardoso plus Alves to leave end of season along with Herrera.
Cochrane of hearts, Arfield and Naismith if he performs and stay injury free in summer.
New deals for Wilson, Bates and Tav
1.) 24 Jan 2018 19:14:17
Looks like Wilson is away, not in the squad at all tonight. Unless he’s injured but Murty never mentioned anything about him having any injuries
2.) 24 Jan 2018 19:17:11
Bluebell 72
There will be no deal for Danny Wilson.
See my post earlier?
He's finished ie history now and not in the squad tonight.
3.) 24 Jan 2018 19:57:32
Sorry typo. Actually meant Windass for a new deal.
Wilson was out the minute we got Martin in
4.) 24 Jan 2018 20:51:13
Cochrane looks a talent, hearts will be impossible to deal with though. Doubt we can afford arfield. When fit Naismith was a good player but am sure they'll be better players available come the summer.
5.) 24 Jan 2018 22:48:53
Holt won't be going anywhere
6.) 24 Jan 2018 23:31:55
Holt is a severley underated player. Great performance again tonight from the wee man. He's not a hard tackler but he contributes massively in other ways.
7.) 25 Jan 2018 07:46:26
Holt was captain last night mate, surely the manager must think highly of him if he is making him stand in captain. He won't be going anywhere
8.) 25 Jan 2018 11:20:52
Is the lad docherty finalised yet, Danny Wilson will be a loss not just to us but Scotland as well, he's getting to the prime of his career and wants to swap all this for the MLS.
Hope he stays but if not good luck in the MLS
9.) 25 Jan 2018 22:11:47
I hope Kranjcar to the states on a free happens will practically pay for the Docherty transfer itself
16 Jan 2018 17:07:56
Was speaking to a guy linked with the development squad today. Apparently the board want to mirror the Man City ethos of getting future 1st team lads out on loan early for good experience and ship those not up to the task for between £50/ 150k to lower league clubs.
All money made from this will go into developing the facilities and securing cross border young English guys who we can snap up on development fees and make a profit on.
This is to be a long term viable option and will certainly give the manager funds to add one or two quality additions each transfer window and maintain an effective model of first team standards, without the need for continual restructuring of the first team.
Also makes sense from a business sense and to attract investment.
Finally we seem to be moving in the right direction.
Keep the faith fellow Bears
1.) 16 Jan 2018 18:17:13
No offence but you sold barrie mckay for 800k or something like that, how do you expect to sell an unknown player from your youth team that doesn't have the ability or potential to even make it in the rangers team for 150k? Man city can do it because the level required to make it in there first team is very high, again no offence but the level to make it in to the rangers team isnt
2.) 16 Jan 2018 18:48:56
Sadly too many mistakes were made beforehand, McKay was sold for too little, 100% agree, as in the past we have been able to get players for less too, it’s the nature of it.
However there is a change afoot to rectify the past errors and the model will allow for players who are reaching a decent enough standard to be moved for fees within those figures quoted.
Plus allow Rangers to target those down south, who are restricted due to the vast sums being spent on players. We can give them a forum to use as a springboard into th championship or on those rare occasions to a premiership outfit.
3.) 16 Jan 2018 18:57:58
it’s all relative rob doc i think comparing man city to rangers youths given the resource and ridiculous amounts of money they have is ridiculous quite frankly
steve clarke rates jordon jones at well over 1m and he’s been on loan at cambridge hartlepool and played at the mighty killie for 18months making 1 sub appearance for NI.
hardly setting the heather on fire wouldn't you agree
and just for the record makay cld easily have gone for over 1m but only had 6months left on his contract and refused to sign a new deal so rangers did what was best for the club moved him on and made as much as we could for a player who thought he was better than he actually was
moving on players from our youth who’ve only had a few 1st team games and been sold on ie hemmings / mccormack / fleck / burke who have all since done fairly well will work as clubs may look at their potential and think could this be another ferguson hutton mcgregor adam who all came through our youth established in first team and sold on for a decent fee
4.) 16 Jan 2018 19:55:58
I have no doubt mckay could have went for more than he did and I'm a celtic supporter BUT that's a different kettle of fish. He was established in your first team for a few years. Trev, you mention Jones and a 1m fee for him as an example but all they're doing is inflating his value because they know there are clubs interested. Realistically, there is no one interested enough in an unknown player from your youth team to splash out 150k for them. 150k is peanuts down south which is why they can do it but it's a fair amount in the scottish leagues.
5.) 16 Jan 2018 20:21:41
Most of the dealings where you see moved for an undesclosed fee are within those parameters.
You only have to look at Man City or Chelsea youth players who are moving for £50-£75-£100k with frequency to Belgium or Div1
We have seen in the past these players are not all they’re cracked up to be either, many have come to Scotland and failed.
Don’t believe the hype that because they’re over the border they are much better at that age.
Scotland is also a prime target to see if younger foreign imports can adapt to climate and culture etc. Plus the added bonus of easier to get a work permit.
More English clubs will lose decent acandemy players for a development fee over the next few years. Agents see the the old firm as a means to exposure for their clients.
It’ll happen
6.) 16 Jan 2018 21:23:27
Rob_D - your right 150k is a lot of money in the Scottish leagues, so Killie should accept a fair bid, and possibly build in sell on fee, instead of doing the usual with the biggest team in Scotland and adding another '0' to the fee, just on the off chance. other choice is to give the lad a new contract based on his managers and Boyd's comments and treble his wages for 3 to 4 years!
7.) 17 Jan 2018 08:46:43
Just because it's a lot of money doesn't mean they have to accept it, would rangers accept 150k for McCrorie? He's only went on loan to Ayr and Dumbarton and has played only 19 games for the first team. Don't worry you can build in a sell on fee!
Jones is one of Killie's most promising youngsters so they don't want to let him go for nothing.
bil72, I have been reasonable and respectful during this conversation and I feel that your "biggest team in scotland" statement is an attempt to rile me up. I would just point you towards the average attendances for this year, or the financial statements of both clubs, maybe even compare the trophy cabinets of both clubs in the last 10 years? Now, let the reasonable adults have a chat without you trying to turn this in to a "mines is bigger than yours" competition.
8.) 17 Jan 2018 13:21:40
RobDoc21, to be fair Celtic Park has a bigger capacity than Ibrox so that kind of makes your average attendance statement void but I do take your point on the other 2.
The fact is that our club has been run so poorly from the board room to the manager since we went down to the old Divison 3. We should have been promoting youth at that point to build for the future with a squad full of home-grown talent which we could either sell on and make a tidy profit on or build a team around them, which in turn could only be good for the national side also.
ok Lewis Macleod came in and Barrie McKay played the majority of games in that first season before being loaned out (wrong decision) but there must have been more talent in that youth team that could have been better in the long run for our club instead of guys like Ian Black, Fran Sandaza etc.
We did not need to get the players we did to win those lower divisions, I would say a starting 11 made up of 5 youth team players and 6 others would have been much better than the garbage we ended up with.
We need to start using the youth system to promote within because let's get real for a minute. we have very little money to spend on players, that is why we are getting these guys in on loan with an option to buy. DK is waiting on the season ticket money to finance these deals as we physically can't right now. Now obviously I don't have access to Rangers' bank account so I can't say for sure but I would say it would be a safe bet to assume that is what is going on.
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12 Apr 2018 20:35:37
Good luck to young Bates. Great step up for the lad to the Bundesliga. Fantastic place to live and enjoy.
We have profited in the past by getting players for free and ultimately other clubs will poach ours too.
I’m sure we have others in the pipeline, for next year, we’re looking at, possibly why he wasn’t offered another contract.
I’m sure he will prosper into a good pro, seems to have the capabilities and attributes.
I’m not too worried as McCrorie can play there and also his distribution wasn’t the best, saying that he never let us or himself down and he goes with my good wishes.
Especially to it’s the Blues brothers HSV.
1.) 12 Apr 2018 21:07:19
You think bates will be playing in the bunesliga then bluebell?
2.) 12 Apr 2018 21:18:49
i don't get why people are annoyed bates is going he is rotten he's a junior football playe, shows how bad our defence has got if folk think he was decent
3.) 12 Apr 2018 22:38:42
Jyf
Probably 2nd Tier next year, which is still a step up
from the SPL.
So yeah
4.) 13 Apr 2018 04:33:37
Bluebell how can you say the 2nd tier in Germany is better than the Spl, we might not be the best league, but how can we expect any respect from outside Scotland when we slag our own league the way you have done, absolutely shocking
5.) 13 Apr 2018 06:46:53
bluebell, I doubt that you could name many german second division teams without google yet you know the standard is better than Scotland aye OK.
6.) 13 Apr 2018 09:03:56
After living there for a few years I could name a good few.
The standard in 2nd bundesliga is on par with the championship.
I’m not slagging or running our league down, it is what it is, but don’t let’s pass it off as being on par with a league that it’s not.
7.) 13 Apr 2018 10:29:28
I’m not passing it off for a league it’s not, read your post, you said the 2nd tier of Bundesliga is better than the spl, that is complete fabrication, the bottom half of most of the top leagues our top 4 could hold their own against over a season
8.) 13 Apr 2018 12:37:04
We can’t even hold our own against Motherwell, Hamilton, or St Johnstone over the course of a season in our own bottom of our league.
The standard outwith our top 4/ 5 is absolute crap. Of course you can only win what’s in front of you but our league is woeful. That said if they gave us more tv cameras inside the ground, better angles, commentators with magic pens and touch screens, we could possibly make it just as interesting as stoke v Huddersfield.
9.) 13 Apr 2018 12:37:20
by that token Jyf how many germans could name Scottish Prem teams outside the Old Firm?
10.) 13 Apr 2018 17:25:42
How do I know snell? You would have to ask some germans to get the answer to that so your point was? Mine is that Scottish teams play in europe, no matter how briefly, and have a higher profile than any second tier german team. Are you seriously saying that the german second division is better than the Scottish premier?
11.) 13 Apr 2018 18:30:50
We couldn’t beat a part time bunch of fruit sellers and budgie shop owners this year.
The Bundesliga 2 is technically a far superior league to ours.
Outside our home games and I include Celtic’s home games, watching it is on par with pollock v Arthurlie
12.) 14 Apr 2018 00:11:15
Do I know with certainty? can't say one way or the other mate. Had a wee nosey at their league though, teams like Kaiserslautern, Fortuna Dusseldorf and Armenia Beilefield all have a decent name throughout Europe, well a better name that our clubs with the exception of Old Firm and probably Aberdeen. don't think our teams getting pumped in Euro qualifiers against teams from tiny Euro countries really "raises the profile" that much.
Your average football fan doesn't really pay attention to Euro fixtures at that stage of a competition. Most sides in the league averaging around 20k fans, some just under 30k per game. Also Hibs took a boy on loan from that league that they openly admit would need to take a wage cut to join them permanently- that team sit second bottom just now. So I can't say hand on heart which is better, but to dismiss it as being impossible isn't right either.
13.) 14 Apr 2018 00:12:39
and Jaj saying our top four could hold their own would mean you think they can compete against teams currently including Wolfsburg, Werder Bremen, Newcastle, Watford, Althletic Bilbao, Real Sociedad, Bologna and Torino. Aberdeen and Hibs against those aye?
04 Apr 2018 23:00:40
Sad news about Ray Wilkins. You could always hear he held Rangers in high esteem when ever asked about us. Perfect gentleman and some of the accolades to him have been the mark of the man.
If I reach the ripe old age of 100 I’d still never tire of his volley against them.
Godspeed sir, thanks for the memories RIP
01 Apr 2018 15:48:29
De boer is a manager still searching for a formula that works. Ok he had success with Ajax, but with the academy and facilities they have, I could probably do it.
We need an astute manager with contact far spread in Europe, I know Benitez is at Newcastle but they’re never going to be anything special in that league.
A manage of that Ilk is what we should be demanding and expecting.
Marco Silva recently sacked by Watford is another that would be beneficial to us and want to rebuild his potentially over a few years.
De Boer is not for me yet as a manager nor is Gio VB in future maybe, but we need knowledge and tactical awareness now and someone that will build a template long term.
Murty has done well enough in my eyes but, is found wanting against teams at times. This waiting until the 70 mins for subs is pathetic, when we have depth now and an injection of pace is needed.
Motherwell could’ve been put to the sword by bringing Cummings and Goss on earlier. They had lost there shape when we went 2-2.
We allowed them to get back into it, through having a few tired legs, that had done well up-to a point.
We need to be cutthroat, ruthless and above all combative from the 1st minute, not awaiting on a rollicking at half time too change.
Sort it out Board, it’s time to spend on a manager that can out muscle Brenda, sick and tired of them walking around with no challenge and acting the big ones.
They’re champions yes, but we need to knock them off, never mind hoping other teams can scrape a point off them, it’s time we destroyed teams again.
We have the fan base and academy to prosper, so let’s sort the mess out, it’s time for decisive action and not polishing a rough diamond.
1.) 01 Apr 2018 16:57:06
I suggested the other day Chris Hughton, the Brighton manager. Much more affordable and he has done brilliantly with a limited budget by EPL standards. He also did well at Norwich finishing 11th in his first season. Big names are all very well but firstly, are they affordable and secondly, can they cut it in Scottish football where players get kicked to death? If injuries hadn't affected things and we could have had McCrorie, Dorrans, Jack, Bates, Wallace, Rossiter all playing since Xmas we wouldn't be far away. On a negative note, people say Morelos plays well, 'for the team', etc. He is supposed to be a striker and couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo from 20 yards! New start for 2018/ 19:
McGregor; Tavernier, Bates, McCrorie, John; Jack; Rossiter, Dorrans, Murphy; Hardie, McBurnie
2.) 01 Apr 2018 17:27:00
In all honesty could you tell us how Rangers are going to pay these manager's wages and how they will provide the transfer budget they would expect to challenge Celtic?
3.) 01 Apr 2018 18:09:19
That team you put up is nowhere near good enough to win this league lol
4.) 01 Apr 2018 18:39:04
Brenda won sweet fanny Adams before coming up here. De Boer would do a job up here. IF he got a decent transfer budget
5.) 01 Apr 2018 21:16:07
Disagree DOIGER. Rossiter will probably be injured again!
6.) 01 Apr 2018 22:27:03
Correct blueberry. People forget Brenda was a failed manager in England and has only done what he has done up here because of our situation. A monkey could have done as good a job. DeBoer and some decent investment woukd have the tanned one running scared.
7.) 01 Apr 2018 23:23:04
I'm sorry guys but how would de Boer have Rodgers running scared. He has came up against sir Alex morinhio Wenger and co. Not so sure he would be at all worried whoever gets the job to be honest.
19 Mar 2018 17:39:37
We need a manager of considerable ilk to move forward and we should be demanded it.
Too many home defeats under Murty for me, for him to be an option.
Next year, we need to hit the ground running and don’t have time to give time anymore.
Thinking Clarke or Wright are good enough for rangers is beyond me. Each week they set up 10 behind the ball, if we would’ve scored early then their only game plan is gone. So not for me.
The fellow Garcia sacked from Watford, I like, possibly Martinez dependant on how good Belgium do at the World Cup or Benitez, with enticement of Europe as he won’t win anything with Newcastle.
There’s many names in the hat I’m sure, but investment is key to moving forward and we can’t keep blaming inept managers, the board need to get it right this time and stop short changing us.
1.) 19 Mar 2018 18:04:45
I think you mean Marco Silva mate, Garcia is the current Watford boss. Seen him mentioned a few times and to be honest I would support that.
2.) 19 Mar 2018 18:08:25
Yeah that’s him. We need someone for sure mate
3.) 19 Mar 2018 18:29:56
south americans and scottish football don't mix mate need someone that at least no, s the game
4.) 19 Mar 2018 18:34:00
Doubt we could afford silva. Is he not on the merry-go-round that is managing in England like parade, alladyce etc. Think he would be good though.
5.) 19 Mar 2018 18:46:59
lucky he is Portuguese then Queens mate ;) although our track record there ain't great either 😕
6.) 19 Mar 2018 18:50:40
So you think if Martinez does well with Belgium at the world cup ( wins it) he will come to Sevco😂😂😂😂
7.) 19 Mar 2018 19:01:23
Martinez will never come to us lol. Belgium are superb and he has landed an amazing squad of players. Lucky so and so to manage them. Think they could do very well in world cup as long as boyata is nowhere to be seen lol.
8.) 19 Mar 2018 22:34:42
Belgium will waste their current generation of players by having that joke managing them. They could be world beaters if they had a decent manager.
9.) 20 Mar 2018 07:53:04
Roberto martinez AIN'T a bad manager in my eyes certainly, gustavo! Superb at both swansea and wigan and started very well at everton! Just because a manager goes through a bad period or chain of bad events at A particular football club, doesn't mean they're bad managers! Happens to the best managers in the game! It happened to sir alex, gustavo!
11 Mar 2018 15:37:34
Not too disheartened today. We started well and competed.
Unfortunately we’re still lacking quality in depth from the bench.
The legs went in some of our midfielders about 65min in and against 10 men we just couldn’t find that final telling pass.
Lots of mistakes, few howling misses, but lots of effort and commitment.
Take that into the cup game and build on it. Last season and early on, we were getting steamrolled.
We’re on the up bears. Keep the faith
1.) 11 Mar 2018 15:50:36
To true we are getting closer and hopefully
the semi final will be ours
2.) 11 Mar 2018 15:53:28
Surely lots of effort and commitment is a minimum requirement? Tbh that sounds like what the Hamilton or Dundee Manager would say. Just shows how far we are behind him and how some fans seem to think that’s acceptable. Sad times
3.) 11 Mar 2018 16:04:42
After what we have been through over the
years getting closer to them is improvement
or do you forget that we will get better and
and have the semi to look forward to
4.) 11 Mar 2018 16:14:15
EFFORT AND COMMITMENT was obvious on the field of play BUT ---- what was happening OFF the field of play? WHERE WERE THE RANGERS FANS?
You could not be heard behind a wet newspaper in comparison to the Celtic fans ----
5.) 11 Mar 2018 16:20:33
And how sad times and how supposedly we
are behind them it wasnt that long ago
we were well beaten by them it has took time
but we are getting there and the semi could
be ours if we take our chances so we aren’t
that far behind them as you say
6.) 11 Mar 2018 16:48:46
To Arthur D
Sad times were when we were in division 3
We have improved although it hurts
getting beat by them look at the bigger picture
we are getting back to where we belong roll
on the semi
7.) 11 Mar 2018 17:44:14
Jd1872
Sorry but your delusional if you think we are getting closer to them. They are consistently beating us 7 out of the last 9 and now 4 in a row at Ibrox. They will once again win the treble and we couldn’t have asked for more playing against 10 men but still lost. They have been very average in a lot of games this season but are still strolling to the title. That’s the realty and your bigger picture is just words with no real meaning
8.) 11 Mar 2018 17:53:51
From the points they have won the league
over the years to now they aren’t strolling
it we are getting closer fact
9.) 11 Mar 2018 21:05:42
Jd1872
Sorry but they always win the big games against us and until we start winning them then we aren’t getting closer. Down to 10 men and we still lost to them. Wish it was as black and white as you seem to think it is but sadly it’s not
28 Jan 2018 18:28:02
Pair of Corks
24 Jan 2018 19:57:32
Sorry typo. Actually meant Windass for a new deal.
Wilson was out the minute we got Martin in
16 Jan 2018 20:21:41
Most of the dealings where you see moved for an undesclosed fee are within those parameters.
You only have to look at Man City or Chelsea youth players who are moving for £50-£75-£100k with frequency to Belgium or Div1
We have seen in the past these players are not all they’re cracked up to be either, many have come to Scotland and failed.
Don’t believe the hype that because they’re over the border they are much better at that age.
Scotland is also a prime target to see if younger foreign imports can adapt to climate and culture etc. Plus the added bonus of easier to get a work permit.
More English clubs will lose decent acandemy players for a development fee over the next few years. Agents see the the old firm as a means to exposure for their clients.
It’ll happen
16 Jan 2018 18:48:56
Sadly too many mistakes were made beforehand, McKay was sold for too little, 100% agree, as in the past we have been able to get players for less too, it’s the nature of it.
However there is a change afoot to rectify the past errors and the model will allow for players who are reaching a decent enough standard to be moved for fees within those figures quoted.
Plus allow Rangers to target those down south, who are restricted due to the vast sums being spent on players. We can give them a forum to use as a springboard into th championship or on those rare occasions to a premiership outfit.
13 Apr 2018 18:30:50
We couldn’t beat a part time bunch of fruit sellers and budgie shop owners this year.
The Bundesliga 2 is technically a far superior league to ours.
Outside our home games and I include Celtic’s home games, watching it is on par with pollock v Arthurlie
13 Apr 2018 12:37:04
We can’t even hold our own against Motherwell, Hamilton, or St Johnstone over the course of a season in our own bottom of our league.
The standard outwith our top 4/ 5 is absolute crap. Of course you can only win what’s in front of you but our league is woeful. That said if they gave us more tv cameras inside the ground, better angles, commentators with magic pens and touch screens, we could possibly make it just as interesting as stoke v Huddersfield.
13 Apr 2018 09:03:56
After living there for a few years I could name a good few.
The standard in 2nd bundesliga is on par with the championship.
I’m not slagging or running our league down, it is what it is, but don’t let’s pass it off as being on par with a league that it’s not.
12 Apr 2018 22:38:42
Jyf
Probably 2nd Tier next year, which is still a step up
from the SPL.
So yeah
19 Mar 2018 18:08:25
Yeah that’s him. We need someone for sure mate