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04 Dec 2016 20:30:35
Lansbury is only being linked by Level 5 because he has the same agent as Waghorn, Garner and Tavernier. The best player at a club that could make the Championship playoffs isn't trading that for Rangers. It's nice to dream, but be realistic. Deflect, deflect, deflect by what's happening at the club in terms of January window shopping.
26 Oct 2016 16:47:29
MoH will be off in January, either on loan or permanently. MW is a decent man but is being hamstrung by the board by being told who he can and can't play, as well as being given minimal financial backing ahead of the transfer window. Bleak times, wouldn't blame him if he walked.
1.) 26 Oct 2016 19:15:37
But he starts tonight?
2.) 29 Oct 2016 20:23:12
Clearly no going anywhere 2 motm performances in 2 games, moh is 1 of the most direct players we have, with holt and windass also up there.
22 Oct 2016 18:05:08
Has anyone else heard that O'Halloran isn't getting game time due to the club having to cough up more cash if he plays another game?
1.) 22 Oct 2016 19:10:29
He wasn't signed on the last board's watch. Surely the current big wigs would not have agreed to such a ridiculous clause. Extremely counter productive to say the least.
{Ed039's Note - I don't think that is the case at all)
2.) 22 Oct 2016 23:06:33
Ed, if you don't mind me asking what is the case with moh NOT getting game time and a chance at ibrox when our management team were desparate to sign him in the first place? What's your own take on this topic regarding moh because most of us 'gers fans continually talk and wonder what the hell is going on regarding moh. He's got a lot of support from us 'gers fans who think he deserves a run in the team. What's the situ? Has he done something wrong, has he spat the dummy out with our management team due to lack of first team action, is he just not showing up well in training, is he just not suited to warburton's style of play, WHAT is the problem, we all want to know? What do you reckon ed? Its a total mystery to us fans, from a personal point of view i truly think moh deserves a run of games in our team!
{Ed039's Note - I have heard it's all down to stats, he has a very low pass completion for example)
3.) 23 Oct 2016 10:26:54
Aye he would have, he's only played twice. How can you formulate statistics if the player isn't playing. Rubbish. There's more to it than that. Similar situation to griffiths and Strachan. Warburton plays waghorn on the right so as long as he's fit he'll start. Simple as that.
4.) 23 Oct 2016 11:49:56
Something similar like that happened with Michael Ball years ago I think, hopefully this isn't true but it wouldn't be a shock if that was the case, I also think we were held to ransom for MOH.
5.) 23 Oct 2016 12:27:31
Just cosgrove being his feminine bitchy way again, cannot for the world see this being the scenario.
6.) 23 Oct 2016 11:59:21
Supercooper you should know being tight with the o'halloren family. After all it was you who told us he was signing months in advance eh 😩😩😩.
7.) 23 Oct 2016 12:43:59
I can appreciate that MOH is not a first choice although given how keen Warburton was to sign him it does surprise me that he is not given more opportunity especially when we are not exactly overly endowed with quality these days and the majority of players that are presumably brought in to improve things have spent more time on the treatment table than on the park.
8.) 23 Oct 2016 20:25:27
JayC1204,if you read my post a couple of days ago i did state that moh is miffed as to how he's not getting a chance as he is desperate to be a success at rangers. He likes very much being at rangers mate. I asked the ed just to see if he had heard any other info regarding moh.
9.) 24 Oct 2016 12:10:55
Warburton has no idea how to utilise pace. MOH is lightning fast and can hurt teams if the ball is played behind their defence. But warburton likes players like Waghorn and Mackay who always come inside. Waggy can't go on the outside because his right foot is basically a dead stump. Mackay looks totally disinterested and his work rate i'd half of what it was last season. MOH has proved he can beat men and get to the by line, course the fact that once he gets there, there's no out and out striker to give it to may explain why he has only had 4 league starts since signing, disgraceful. Bring back big Eck.
10.) 24 Oct 2016 12:10:55
Warburton has no idea how to utilise pace. MOH is lightning fast and can hurt teams if the ball is played behind their defence. But warburton likes players like Waghorn and Mackay who always come inside. Waggy can't go on the outside because his right foot is basically a dead stump. Mackay looks totally disinterested and his work rate i'd half of what it was last season. MOH has proved he can beat men and get to the by line, course the fact that once he gets there, there's no out and out striker to give it to may explain why he has only had 4 league starts since signing, disgraceful. Bring back big Eck.
11.) 24 Oct 2016 12:10:55
Warburton has no idea how to utilise pace. MOH is lightning fast and can hurt teams if the ball is played behind their defence. But warburton likes players like Waghorn and Mackay who always come inside. Waggy can't go on the outside because his right foot is basically a dead stump. Mackay looks totally disinterested and his work rate i'd half of what it was last season. MOH has proved he can beat men and get to the by line, course the fact that once he gets there, there's no out and out striker to give it to may explain why he has only had 4 league starts since signing, disgraceful. Bring back big Eck.
12.) 24 Oct 2016 12:10:55
Warburton has no idea how to utilise pace. MOH is lightning fast and can hurt teams if the ball is played behind their defence. But warburton likes players like Waghorn and Mackay who always come inside. Waggy can't go on the outside because his right foot is basically a dead stump. Mackay looks totally disinterested and his work rate i'd half of what it was last season. MOH has proved he can beat men and get to the by line, course the fact that once he gets there, there's no out and out striker to give it to may explain why he has only had 4 league starts since signing, disgraceful. Bring back big Eck.
13.) 23 Oct 2016 06:16:59
So no truth in the rumour of cash needing paid out once he's played 20, 50 and 100 games? He might make the first clause but I'd be gobsmacked if he makes the second two.
{Ed039's Note - I am not saying there is no truth that there is extras to be paid but its not stopping him being selected)
14.) 23 Oct 2016 08:18:22
I'm not up on all that fancy jargon Ed. Does that just mean he's pants?
{Ed039's Note - Warburton has analysis done of games and training and what I am hearing is that MOH is "scoring" very low in things like passes completed, dribbles completed etc etc, a lot of modern managers pay a lot of attention to these stats when it comes to their team selections and their overall analysis if players)
15.) 23 Oct 2016 16:39:42
Ed mate this is becomin joke tho how moh can't get game somethin is obv up big time that's my opinion. Again today why was his pace not used against there defence? Our defence yet again kiernan hill murder and that's how celtic won again seems to me warburton is absolutr clueless fact he picks who he likes best instead off the best players boys like mckay n kiernan will allways play no matter how bad they are and this a big problem at club our size. Nothin worse when u lose last minute against your rivals but i knew this was comin hill and kiernan aren't good enough wilson or senderos would have been mines today from start and MOH aswell would been on, ed wots the news on matt crooks?
{Ed039's Note - Matt Crooks is building up his fitness, he is very well liked and wouldn't be surprised to see him involved over the next few weeks, I wouldn't blame the defence for the result yesterday, I actually feel that was our best defensive performance of the season, but when you can not make the ball stick when going forward and you invite wave after wave of attack from the opposition then it only seemed a matter of time, and that is what it proved to be ....... I am a fan of Wes Foderingham and I am sure I may be slated by some for saying that but I think Gilks was outstanding from a shot stopping point of view and was MOTM)
16.) 24 Oct 2016 22:53:56
yesterday we played with ten men because McKay was woeful. Given the circumstances there was a strong argument for wither MOH or Dodoo replacing McKay at half time. He contributed absolutely nothing!
17.) 24 Oct 2016 23:51:10
i was not keen on big wes when he ffirst came to our club, but i think he has come on a treat, i also agree with you in regards gilks, he was my also my man of the match, he saved us a thumping, i also believe in mw, we are three month in to promotion to the top league, and mw has got our whole club playing a totally difrent style from ever before, he must be givin time imho, people should know it will take a season or two to get everything ticking properly, any other team coming up from the championship, and sitting in top half of the league would be happy, but not our support, maybe its time some of our support showed a bit of patients.
18.) 26 Oct 2016 13:29:28
on the moh front the guy obviously hasn't been impressing on the training ground.
30 Aug 2016 18:54:24
Hearing the club have agreed a fee with Bristol City for Waghorn.
1.) 30 Aug 2016 19:14:52
hope it's Got aden flint involved or they can bolt.
2.) 30 aug 2016 19:21:33
waghorn is on the shop window from level 5 as was tav. this is simply to attract attention. dave king simply has no money. our season ticket money will run out mid season. remember we don't have a direct line to any bank now.
3.) 30 Aug 2016 19:44:11
Hope no, been missing him and holt so far, think once they're fit, we could be watching the rangers from last season, imo waggy is worth about 3-3.5 million and i Wouldn't sell for anything less.
4.) 30 Aug 2016 19:49:15
How is he going to pass a medical when he is not fit enough to play?
5.) 30 Aug 2016 21:22:25
BR65 You don't need to be match fit to pass a medical. They just need to know that you have no major underlying issues that will rule you out for the whole season or anything that would cost them too much in insurance.
6.) 30 Aug 2016 20:24:47
If he Gos then the money must not pay for garner it should bring in a CB and a cf or there something odd going on tic tok I'll be up all night and till 12 tomorrow.
19 Aug 2016 13:25:14
The truth about the Lescott deal will surface in the next day or two. Nothing to do with medical reasons, it is money related but is not the fault of the player or his representative.
1.) 19 Aug 2016 13:49:52
So who's fault is it then?
2.) 19 Aug 2016 14:21:34
Check the Twitter TL of the Villa owner/ chairman. Posted long after I did, the truth will out.
3.) 19 Aug 2016 14:22:17
DK is to blame sent MW with the gingy bottles from the warchest. 😆.
4.) 19 Aug 2016 14:30:00
Perhaps issue was down to wages.
Villa would part fund his wage for final year of contract but we were unwilling to pay the difference in second year of deal.
Just a guess.
But he didn't start his medical. Not a guess.
5.) 19 Aug 2016 14:31:17
No big deal rangers dodged a bullet imo.
6.) 19 Aug 2016 14:33:00
Sunderland improved as a prospect.
7.) 19 Aug 2016 14:34:47
Tony Xia (via Twitter) : Sky is right this time. No problem with medical check.
So what's your point? Of course the Villa owner is going to deny a failed medical. He wants rid of him and doesn't want pay him another years wages.
8.) 19 Aug 2016 14:37:15
he is a shocking cb anyways and not the player he was which some people on here seem to think he was and to those people they should really start watching football games that don't consist of the big teams down south.
9.) 19 Aug 2016 15:13:43
He's not signing so we move on to the next target, if its Senderos, then i'm sure he will do a job at the back for us anyway, let's just hope we get these deals we want finalised asap.
10.) 19 Aug 2016 15:27:22
I'd say it's down to the villa owner who will pay the difference of his wages for a season but the wages we can pay it would Prob only be about half were as Sunderland would Prob pay a lot more so he is only paying a small difference that's what I think if I had to guess. but tbh think senderos would be better only thing now we got to hope he wants to come as we have sort of give him the boot hopeing on lescott coming now haft to go back in and ask him if he would like to join 😳.
11.) 19 Aug 2016 15:27:26
he passed the medical but his knees came up as a problem. the same as matt mckays when he signed that's why we wanted to change the terms.
12.) 19 Aug 2016 15:30:08
James Stirling. Mate I watch every football game that's going and saw plenty of Lescott last term. He would've made a great addition to our squad and raised the profile of our club. Remi Garde, Lescott's manager came out last year and hailed him as a player he could rely on and applauded his effort to the cause. Somebody is talking out their unmentionable. Wonder who?
13.) 19 Aug 2016 15:58:55
Lescott was clearly happy to come yo Rangers after meeting with Warburton and I have to believe that Warburton would have like this guy at the centre of his defence but it is clear that despite all Kings bluster of funds he is just another one like Murray with his moonbeams/
We have yet to see the much promised striker arrive despite us having agreed a deal with Preston. Will we see that one falter at the last moment as well.
We will not win this league with Wilson and Kiernan as our centre backs, indeed we could be embarrassed in games. Now we are left with Senders, and I am happy to have him on board but centre back will still be a major weakness in our team.
It is also surely disappointing for Warburton to see a player that he wanted and had convinced to come to Rangers then seeing us fail to secure the player because of money. We were only talking about the second years wages since Villa were apparently happy to pay year one.
14.) 19 Aug 2016 16:58:04
The medical was taken and issues came from it. Best all round for Rangers, JL and Villa that "family reasons" prevented the transfer going thru! 100% Not worth risking his wages for 2 year deal, we don't have the cash to take gambles like in previous years.
15.) 19 Aug 2016 17:51:01
He would have been a good signing but we have to be sensible with the money. Shouldn't be breaking the bank to sign a 34 year old woth a questionable attitude especially when we have no European football money. Live within in our means.
16.) 19 Aug 2016 18:22:28
All he has to say is my family don't want to move out of England that's fair enough I think he will regret it as Sunderland will be in the bottom 5 and fighting relegation
He has no ties to us so for him it's an easy decision would have been a good player for us but we must move on.
17.) 19 Aug 2016 18:31:56
Let's all just take a minute, breath and relax before slating our board etc. Let's find out the facts before jumping the gun. According to Sky, Garner has already signed a 3 year deal so let's leave the conspiracy theories to that mob please.
18.) 19 Aug 2016 18:38:32
I think he could've been worth a punt on possibly a pay as you play deal? Where he isn't payed when he's sat on the sidelines. Not sure if he would of went for that but not sure it would have been worth the risk.
19.) 19 Aug 2016 22:21:10
Lescott agreed terms after talking with MW. He expected his payoff from Villa to add to his basic wage in Scotland but arrived today to find that those wages were built into to the deal rather than as an add-on. When he found out the full contract details, he backed out. If what he believed originally had been the case, he would be a Rangers player tonight. Someone at the club has misled him, so he's opted to turn down the deal.
Believe what you want, there are countless people on here who know more than me. If he's purely motivated by money, then he'll stay in England. I'll wager a penny to a pound that he doesn't fail a medical at the club who choose to sign him when he leaves Villa.
20.) 19 Aug 2016 22:46:53
Lets tie up Senders and quickly, then try and bring in another quality centre back before the end of August!
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05 Nov 2016 03:38:58
Anyone having a pop at a 13 year old kid, regardless of which side he plays for, needs to have a long and hard look at themselves. Our young talent should be nurtured and encouraged.
19 Aug 2016 12:00:45
Senderos it is then, assuming he's content being the club's second choice.
1.) 19 Aug 2016 12:19:41
The hat says he looking very good. Much better option for me as he's the better footballer, cheaper, faster and at a much better age!
2.) 19 Aug 2016 12:35:48
Senderos is honking, has been for over a decade. Rather we signed nobody than him.
Signing him is out of pure desperation- he's so good that we have been trying to sign someone else while he's been on trial.
3.) 19 Aug 2016 12:39:53
lescott was never a good idea for me anyways and I don't think he would have passed a medical if it was done properly the guy can't run and is too slow.
17 Aug 2016 15:59:14
Seems the Garner move is all down to his agent rather than Rangers scouting him and initiating contact. Fee also nowhere near the sums quoted, a better deal some would say.
1.) 17 Aug 2016 16:34:45
How do you know this and I can't see mw taking a player because an agent said.
2.) 17 Aug 2016 16:53:54
We know this how?
3.) 17 Aug 2016 17:10:38
Not sure about the agent part but I really cannot see us paying 1.8 million for any player as we simply don't have the money.
4.) 17 Aug 2016 17:16:50
If he bangs in the goals i don't care how the move came about.
5.) 17 Aug 2016 17:44:03
Money can be raised or do you lack the brain power to realise that? Where do you think the 5m came from to repay a****y? We couldn't "afford" that either by your estimation. Start listening to the gaffer if it represents value and adds something to the squad we don't already posses we will move not because you don't think we have enough money or because you don't think there good enough, your opinion doesn't matter a toss in comparison to MW/ DW/ FMcP hence why there the qualified professionals in there positions.
6.) 17 Aug 2016 18:21:21
Each player with the agency that Garner is with gets what is called a Player Services Manager. That person basically acts like a concierge service for whichever client they get assigned to. Garner's is a certain Elisha Warburton. Conversation is said to have gone loosely as follows. The agent involved, John Colquhoun asked if a certain relative of Ms Warburton would be interested in a striker at a knock down rate as Preston needed the money. Lo and behold, he's on his way north. MW could've said no but chose to say yes.
7.) 17 Aug 2016 18:40:32
Its apparently £750k now same again next season with £200k in potential add ons.
8.) 17 Aug 2016 18:52:24
Huey, I did post this myself on monday mate ie.750k now,750k next year and another possible 200k on add ons dependant on appearances.
9.) 17 Aug 2016 20:20:54
Sensible one you know this how.
10.) 17 Aug 2016 21:46:32
Remember the 5 asterisks Sensibleone!
11.) 17 Aug 2016 21:47:20
Heard that breakdown of costs from a few different places but don't know anything about his agent. I did give you lescott was signing nearly 2 weeks ago and got laughed at.
12.) 17 Aug 2016 23:03:45
Here's my take on this, the board is trying to assure the manager they're not backing down on the funds available, but at the same time trying to scupper any deal blaming agents clubs etc.
13.) 18 Aug 2016 03:07:13
@Gers11. I know someone well who wonks at said agency. Waghorn, Tavernier and Zelalem are all represented by the same. MW also trusts their opinion on players, hence the relative "punt" on Garner.
@Huey. Nice work!
14.) 18 Aug 2016 06:00:27
*works*. Doh.
15.) 18 Aug 2016 12:36:12
sensible one he wouldn't take anybodys word for it anyone we are getting in he has been looking at for a while I can assure u of that he is a smart man and wouldn't take an agencys word that their player is good enough.
16.) 18 Aug 2016 14:35:03
All about opinions and what you know.
03 Jun 2017 19:48:27
The Dorrrans bid is less than £0.5m, with some cash up front and staggered payments over the next three summers. No wonder Norwich have turned it down.
23 Oct 2016 06:16:59
So no truth in the rumour of cash needing paid out once he's played 20, 50 and 100 games? He might make the first clause but I'd be gobsmacked if he makes the second two.
{Ed039's Note - I am not saying there is no truth that there is extras to be paid but its not stopping him being selected)
31 Aug 2016 00:11:31
£3.9m, are you high? They asked what the club wanted, Rangers replied with £2m, they offered £1.25m plus add-ons up to £1.5m and it was accepted. Up to the player now, He was on a touch under £6k at Wigan, £8k at Rangers and has been offered £12k at Bristol City. What would you do?
19 Aug 2016 22:21:10
Lescott agreed terms after talking with MW. He expected his payoff from Villa to add to his basic wage in Scotland but arrived today to find that those wages were built into to the deal rather than as an add-on. When he found out the full contract details, he backed out. If what he believed originally had been the case, he would be a Rangers player tonight. Someone at the club has misled him, so he's opted to turn down the deal.
Believe what you want, there are countless people on here who know more than me. If he's purely motivated by money, then he'll stay in England. I'll wager a penny to a pound that he doesn't fail a medical at the club who choose to sign him when he leaves Villa.
19 Aug 2016 14:21:34
Check the Twitter TL of the Villa owner/ chairman. Posted long after I did, the truth will out.
23 Jun 2017 21:24:15
The retail deal that doesn't kick in until the 1st of July. Until then, Ashley is still trousering 93p of every £1 spent. Aye, well done, Dave King!
07 Dec 2016 20:16:39
You've "done a bit of digging" or have looked on Transfermarkt? Reality needs to kick in at some point, there is little money to spend on transfers or wages. It blows for the fans but that's how it is.
28 Nov 2016 17:37:54
4 players? Have you been sniffing shoe polish?
18 Aug 2016 14:35:03
All about opinions and what you know.
18 Aug 2016 06:00:27
*works*. Doh.