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22 Oct 2017 19:21:48
wining 2 out of every 3 games would give you a points tally of 76 at the end of the season which is good enough for second most seasons. Going on a longer runs consistently is winning the league territory, second is our aim this season but who knows.

TJBB

1.) 22 Oct 2017 19:33:29
You don't half talk some mince mate! The stuff you post on here is complete and utter rubbish! You must be Pedro in disguise?
Who knows? I know! I know we're no where good enough to be even thinking the utter garbage that's floating about in your head! Even for you this is bad! Get a grip of yourself man it's embarrassing!


2.) 22 Oct 2017 19:35:41
Sorry, we were kicked off the park today. Refereeing was abysmal . How come someone can get a broken nose by an elbow in a headed ball incident and the offender does not get booked. TV showed the ref had vision of the incident.

OK maybe we are too soft, but the fact is that the rules are not being applied. big time. Alnwick with his height should have stopped or caught the first goal, commanded the area like the Well goalie and could not be arsed making any attempt at the second.

Pena, well had opportunity to deliver and was poor. Too much clubbing on Sat night.


3.) 22 Oct 2017 19:59:24
Slk73 its only my opinion calm down. Also are you disagreeing with my arithmetic.


4.) 22 Oct 2017 20:02:31
Let's please not go down the always cheated, never defeated road.

The ref had a shocker today, no question but Motherwell deserved their win.

And didn't Caxinha state that he welcomed the physical challenge of Motherwell?


5.) 22 Oct 2017 20:22:23
Less opinion more delusion TJBB. I admire opinion if that opinion makes any sense. Your opinions, I'm sorry to say, are pure fantasy! You can crunch as many numbers as you want but even Rachel Riley from Countdown would have trouble making sense of your arithmetic!
I appreciate you want to back the manager and the team, however, you need to be a lot more realistic and accept how poor both are!


6.) 22 Oct 2017 22:46:53
Tommie Rangers never even tried to play football. A big boot upfield and see who can get on the end of it. Forget the referee Rangers did nothing to win that game. All attacks came from a boot upfield. How can a team improve playing that way? So Pedro gets sacked. Rangers pay him off. New manager not his players so start again. But where is the money going to come from? King has said he is skint so he can't turn up and give a new manager £10mill. The 3 bears must have had enough now as well. Pedri might have been the last throw of the dice.


7.) 22 Oct 2017 22:50:10
Are yous surprised Motherwell gubbed you today? . well I'm not. infact I'd have been more surprised if rangers had won with that overpaid excuse of footballer pena in the team.


8.) 22 Oct 2017 22:33:39
2/3 x 38 = 25.33,
25.33 x 3 = 76 points.
Im not being cheeky or want an argument with a fellow bear but how can you argue, wining 2 out of 3 will get you 76 points.


 

 

22 Oct 2017 18:24:49
Devastated at result but not totally surprised, I thought Motherwell would be in our faces and would score at least one goal. But let's take stock we out played them for large parts of the game, they poleaxed our defender and then scored through his position. We had numerous chances and could have won easily on another day. As usual ref was shocking. Still behind Pedro, we are just prob 3 players short of a very good squad, our left flank is week, imagine if we managed to bag Moult, Walker and Maclean as Pedro wanted in Summer, I think we may still be in Europe, 2nd in league and in the cup final. Not Pedros fault we could not get the players. Keep the faith. The day we agree with Sutton we have lost the plot. and don't follow Sutton.

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1.) 22 Oct 2017 18:33:58
delusional post, you want to get a grip, what's sutton got to do with the way we played today,3 players there today who should not be wearing a gers top never mind playing


2.) 22 Oct 2017 18:38:11
TJBB

You’re delusional if you think under this clown we will do anything. We are rank rotten and are no better than the Motherwells of this world.


3.) 22 Oct 2017 18:39:44
Sorry 3 players from very good squad sorry don't agree Pena 2 and half million joke the players we couldve got for that moult McLean walker for starters . give him until end of season but I don't think things will improve much . his decision making tactical awareness but to be desired. king didn't look to happy will he back his manager in January doubt it after money he's wasted don't think he's suited to Scottish game he's an imposter of an manager plenty a passion good talker that's about all


4.) 22 Oct 2017 18:45:02
Team got bullied all over park, Pena and Windass waste of space effectively playing with 9 men when they are on park. Moult should have been snapped up in summer instead of the cart horse that's Herrera. The team again looked devoid of tactical awareness or more like don't have a clue what the manager is asking them to do. I'm afraid I'm now in the Pedro must go camp still not won 3 games in a row under his tenure not good enough for Rangers


5.) 22 Oct 2017 19:00:51
First Sutton has nothing to do with the way we played, but in the after match analysis he was very forceful and wants Pedro sacked. i'm not delusional its just my opinion guys . We need to build the club back up, your asking the impossible if you think this will happen over night. Give till the end of season and then take stock anything short of that is not the Rangers way. Agree Pena is now running out of time as is Windass. Please keep it respectful on here guys and gals we are all (i think) on the same team and if we were down the pub speaking to each other like some posts then I can't see a second round being ordered.


6.) 22 Oct 2017 19:30:30
long balls to morelos and nemane

nuff said


7.) 22 Oct 2017 20:24:20
3 players from a very good squad are you serious
Windass - a poor Mackay
Pena - Slow and shocking first touch
Herrera - very little game time but looks slow and cumbersome.
We had Miller sitting in the stand time for clarity by Caixinha.
Unfortunately we have let Caixinha waste money in the transfer window say no more.
Like every other Gers fan I had hoped Caixinha would be a success but his appointment remains a big?


 

 

21 Oct 2017 12:08:31
Just watched Moult Interview on BT sport. He was asked by KB about his future. To cut a long story short he said if he moves he has to be playing, he would not warm a bench but at the end of the day I have a family and a house to pay off. I hope we sign him. Prob not quite good enough for EPL so if he signs, could stay and score for years to come, at only 25, poss future legend. He also said they are up for it on Sunday, as theve been written off, I for one think this will be a tight affair and would not be surprised if it was a Motherwell Hibs final with Motherwell winning, obviously hope that's not the case.

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1.) 21 Oct 2017 13:09:38
TJBB I have to disagree with you on this one. You quote that he will not warm the bench and that he is only 25. Well Morelos is only 21. If Moult was to sign, which I hope he doesn't, he will be warming the bench. Morelos has scored more goals whilst not playing as many minutes.


2.) 21 Oct 2017 13:46:30
Blue toon

Why not play 2 up front. Your also assuming that Morelos won’t get injured or suspended. Don’t know why you wouldn’t want a proven goal scorer in the SPFL as well? Do you not agree he is better than Miller or Herrera?


3.) 21 Oct 2017 14:07:36
Sparky1320 what I will assume is that the manager will play Pena before Moult. In this scenario Miller/ Herrera don't come into it, my thought not the managers! Also want to see the young ones coming through and not spending money on bringing players in. Don't forget that Moult wasn't a priority in the team rebuild.


4.) 21 Oct 2017 17:56:07
Moult 'won't be moving to warm the bench'.

Who does this boy think he is exactly. He wants to settle down and wind his neck in. I'll tell you one thing for certain. If Rangers were to bid for him and quadruple his tinpot club wages, he would be signing regardless or bench or starting 11. Players have to earn the right to be in the starting 11 after signing for a club, unless they are a massive signing. which Moult is not. The hype over this guy in unbelievable!


5.) 21 Oct 2017 22:11:42
But by your own assumptions, sparky1320, he's be a bench warmer for Morelos until he's injured or suspended! As for TJBB, Moult could become a legend at Ibrox even though he's not good enough for the SPL? He's not even a legend at Fir Park! And what's all this mortgages and kids stuff? They still get paid for sitting on the bench, you know. There's far better out there and it's the job of our new DoF to find them. Moult is not, and never will be, the sort of player to advance us. We must be far more ambitious than that.


6.) 22 Oct 2017 00:10:16
Bigsam, I said not quite good enough for the EPL therefore may remain under the radar of bigger clubs and would probably stay at a club like Rangers longer term (Morelos already scouted) . I was only repeating what he said on the interview. I suppose he was saying he really wants to play but if a big club comes in then his mortgage/ kids comes first and would accept a pay rise even if on the bench. I think we need a talisman that will be with us for a few years, just thought he would be a good punt. When you say far more ambitious, give us an example of a player you would bring in as striker and how much you would pay and length of contract.


7.) 22 Oct 2017 08:46:49
TJBB

I would agree thought it was a no brainer going for Moult. Far better striker than Miller or Herrera and a proven goal scorer in the league. It would be interesting to see who bigsam thinks is a better striker rather than just saying there are better strikers out there. We could possibly get this guy for £400,000 in January or a free at the end of the season. So tell us bigsam who are the better strikers out there we could get?


 

 

19 Oct 2017 11:09:07
After reading all the posts I have to now agree TV money should be evenly split between all SPL clubs, but only TV money. Gate receipts no. If a club decides to invest and build a 60,000 stadium it would be unfair for other clubs to have a slice of that pie when other clubs may just pocket the TV money with no investment. It would make me nervous short term giving a load of money to the likes of Hibs, Dundee etc but long term we would always rise to the top albeit with an actual challenge from the diddy clubs.
Nobody answered my original question - which Scottish footballer excites, answer, none. Also why do people keep saying the EPL is the most competitive league in the world, bar Leicester the same old story at the top. I will agree its one of the most entertaining leagues in the world which is why it get billions of TV money.
So do we need to change our footballing philosophy and make it entertaining, should we actually ignore Strachan (embarrassing drivel) and go for smaller players, the ones who get discarded at 16 because of size but are very skillful. If we had skillful players like messi our kids would be out playing more and trying to copy him and then it snowballs, higher gates etc. At the moment we have the Mginn turn and the Armstong chop, dusny quite light up the imagination. At the moment we are just putting another coat of paint on the rubbish, we need a new rubbish.

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1.) 19 Oct 2017 14:55:45
Tbh, not many Scottish players have ever excited me. But I would say whenever I have seen walker I have been impressed and also thought Ryan Gauld was an exciting prospect. In terms of the SPL I would say both Morelos and Roberts are exciting to watch but obviously not Scottish.


2.) 19 Oct 2017 18:45:17
Miller has been poor all season that’s why he can not get in to the team, not to mention that the guy had a court case hanging over his head in his personal life, the guy is human, now that would be on your mind, who’s to say Pedro didn’t just say to him “look” Miller your heads not in it at the mo, maybe there has been some strong words also but to me it’s been blown out of proportion, however for me Kenny will never play for rangers after his agents rants!
Personally don’t think he will be missed!


 

 

18 Oct 2017 11:50:27
Hi Guys thanks for all the posts, now for my next question.
Only 275,000 watched the last old firm game on TV, that's 145,000 less then the Sheffield derby the following day (according to Alan Brazil) . So how do we resurrect Scottish football when a significant percentage of our largest supporting groups don't watch each other on TV. I would watch Aberdeen and the rest (celtic maybe to far unless up against good quality) if I was in for a good skillful game. Most Scottish games are pretty poor hence low crowds and TV audiences. i'm not going to mention the cliche grass roots. I would blame the clubs and respective managers/ coaches for negative boring football. When Nathan Oduwa flicked the ball over the head of that Alloa player and there was outrage, that says it all for me, we have lost sight of what football should be all about skill that makes the hairs stand up on the back of your neck. So my challenge is to name any Scottish player that we love to watch because we can't wait to see what he does, eg. Baxter, Cooper, Laudrup, Walters. We have decent players that are capable, they need to be told when in a safe area try nutmeg the players, try a overhead kick from 45 yrds out, practice tricks and get them on the pitch, Wes- try a scorpion kick, aright to far but its the only way to get the crowds back and TV money if its good to watch. that's my opinion, anyone else got any ideas on how to solve this, ask yourself what would make you sit down with a beer and watch 90 mins of Hamilton V Dundee apart from 2 broken legs and a frozen Sky box.

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1.) 18 Oct 2017 12:11:07
be careful with what you read. I'm pretty sure those figures were for only 1 channel when it was shown on 2

there was also a PL game on at the time


2.) 18 Oct 2017 13:13:13
i still think the old one about a bigger league would make a difference. ross county v killie three/ four times a season. jesus christ 😕


3.) 18 Oct 2017 13:19:24
Scottish football needs under 21 league back so the young lads can get out on the pitch and play football instead of watching it or playing ps4 at the weekends also half of the smaller clubs should join forces with local team be 1 sell a ground to housing raise cash to buy better players the way inverness did few years ago


4.) 18 Oct 2017 13:29:16
Spl 1 and spl 2 put them together only make two leagues give we teams a chance


5.) 18 Oct 2017 14:00:41
If you want to sell the game for tv up here. Then the easy answer is make it a summer league. Will help teams in europe, will fill the gaps sky sport/ bt have during the summber months, will make going to the games more enjoyable, rather watch a game in the sun than the driving rain. More people will pop along to the local teams when there teams is playing away matches. Make the game enjoyable for the fans at matches and the game wanted by broadcasters. You might even find we can get more money from tv. Simples.


6.) 18 Oct 2017 14:02:07
I wouldn't pay too much attention to those figures. Did they count all those who watched it in pubs and clubs. I certainly much prefer watching the games in the company of others if i'm not there in person.


7.) 18 Oct 2017 20:25:31
The solution to this problem is pretty simple and it is basically money. We need to spread all income fairer. Including gate receipts, TV money and especially European money. Celtic (and rangers when we get back to CL) can pocket up to £30M from UEFA alone - how can you expect to have a decent league when one team has a budget probably somewhere like 5000% of those in the same league (and don't get me started on sporting integrity) . Say for example of that money £20M was shared between the other clubs, the likes of motherwell and even Aberdeen wouldn't have to sell their best players. They would be able to keep them and build better teams and this improving the quality of the league. Dead simple. Why were teams like Aberdeen and Dundee united good on the early 80's - because the gate money was an even split. It isn't rocket science. Spread the wealth more and we will make more!


8.) 18 Oct 2017 21:11:58
zikos

you want celtic to give away £20m of their £30m earnings from the champions league?

no one in their right mind would do that if it gives other clubs the chance to beat them in the league.

eg celtic share out their winnings and we spend our share on a new striker who scores loads of goals meaning we win the league. celtic come 2nd so only go into europa meaning they will earn less. and then Rangers decide they don't want to share their wealth from the champions league


9.) 19 Oct 2017 01:52:02
Hi STYAB, The EPL gets 8.3 Billion over 3 years Tv money. At the moment we get 18.75 million (30 when all items are factored in) . We sit 18th in terms of revenue from tv money in Europe behind Switzerland, Austria, Sweden, Norway, Poland, Denmark, Greece and Turkey. Its hard to ignore, we need tv/ advertising money its how the game is funded unfortunately. The next deal is prob around the 33 million mark which may go to 50 when all is added up but still we lag behind. Something has to change if we want to compete at the highest level long term.


10.) 19 Oct 2017 01:56:46
@TJBB - if you take it as a percentage, then 4% of Scotland tuned in to the Old Firm game whilst less than 1% of England tuned into the Sheffield derby.
Also factor in economic, illegal downloads and people going to the pub to watch the match then of course viewing figures will have declined.


11.) 19 Oct 2017 02:06:16
Great idea Zikos had Rangers spread the wealth they wouldn't have owed Lloyds so much money and might not have used EBT's (or perhaps they could have spread them league wide too? ) And then come administration we could have divided the 276 creditors by all 12 clubs as we sat around the campfire singing We Are The World. Are you one of the folk who thought the Universal credit hotline charging 55p a minute wasn't enough?


12.) 19 Oct 2017 08:18:36
Zikos get a grip so teams that are successful and make money have to give it to others nonsense. Remember when chris robinson was in charge at hearts they sold players got a big deal with smg it totaled £12.5m they spent £1.4m on players the board gave themselves payrises, within a year the club was skint. Look at the folk we have had in, the Kelly's at celtic. No danger would I invest in any of those regimes. When we went down they threw the book at us, when my local team Livingston went into administration they were relegated to the bottom league, it seems that people pick and choose their punishments and who they punish so it would be no different about who would have to pay and how much they pay. I'm sure Aberdeen, hibs, hearts, Dundee utd and the likes would want from the old firm but be very reluctant to hand out their own profits if they have any.

{Ed001's Note - one of the main reasons for the English league success is that money is shared out very equitably. That is why Spanish teams are now looking to copy the model in la liga.}


13.) 19 Oct 2017 09:30:22
Thanks Ed, I think you actually get my point. The point being the only way to get a better TV deal is to make our product more enviable, to raise the profile of ALL clubs not just rangers and Celtic. Why does the EPL get such an amazing deal - because it is the most competitive league in the World, why is that? Because they have a fairer share of the wealth. Gary75 made a good point in that you would need to ensure the money is spent on infrastructure and playing squad/ staff but shouldn't be that difficult to regulate. In regard to Rangers and Celtic - yes short term it wouldn't be in their best interest but long term it would. We would be able to command better TV deals and clubs in Europe might actually be able to compete. Celtic or Rangers wouldn't have to go into Europe unprepared (easy game after easy game) and might actually get past the group stage. We might even get two teams in the CL as the likes of Aberdeen and St. Johnstone do well in the Europa league raising the co-efficient. Don't think short term think long term. Only one country in the world would make their only representative in a European final play something like 7 games in 18 days. Where does it get us?


14.) 19 Oct 2017 15:32:33
I just love that Rangers fans are getting all equitable when they are on their uppers. Not a word said about this during 9iar but like the seating of the Broomloan, suddenly it's an issue, it's laughable. What about living within your means wouldn't that be a good first step towards equity, where do you stand on that zikos?

The one thing often forgotten (deliberately) about the 2008 season is that Rangers requested AND GOT a postponed game earlier in the season in preparation for a European team, your domestic cup manager was the special one AKA McCoist which may explain the 2 Scottish cup draws you had which added further to your fixture misery. That night you drew with Partick at Ibrox

I remember thinking they are actually better losing this, a draw is a disaster. So poor results and an earlier postponement caused the end of your season as much as anything else. And besides when we agree on a season ending date etc etc, isn't that equitable and fair? Your mask is slipping zikos.


 

 

 

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10 Aug 2017 10:34:10
I appreciate the problems I do hold a science honours degree. Would you fly in an aircraft that was 75% okay, let a nearly qualified surgeon operate on you, take a 2.5 million supercar out with no oil ans 3 wheels, let Donald Trump run the free world, rubbish no that ones true.
Why would you risk our most expensive player in a game that was won in the first 10 minutes just so we can see him injured or performs poorly due to fitness then all insundry can gloat, WTF
Sport science has come a long way since the 70s, that's why KM is still playing when he is 37. Ask yourself would that have happened 30 yrs ago. These guys are athletes and have to be looked after and only when the team working on him says he is mentally and physically ready will he play.

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10 Aug 2017 00:04:50
Coldo, 2.5million is SFA for a full top quality international. Yes he has strayed in Mexico, who wouldn't - crazy country. But he has traveled thousands of miles to fight with our club, he has no family, can't speak the lingo and knows nothing of our country and game. If you ask me that takes balls. Could we do that? Give him time he could be a superstar. If it doesn't work out it won't be for the want of trying. Only Let our enemies chip away at us, please support our club and players no matter what.
Anyone willing to predict top 4 for SPL?

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09 Aug 2017 21:54:32
Can all you sport scientists please post your qualifications when making the assumption he should be fit after 3 to 4 weeks. WTF do any of you know on his fitness level and how long will it take to reach a suitable level and how to achieve that. Or is it a case of get a sausage supper down you and get out there, boot the ball up and someone will head it in. Get a grip, the guys looking after one of our prize assets are very well qualified in their fields although I must admit they have no qualifications on conspiracy theories. I despair sometimes. If anyone follows this up have some effing knowledge.

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16 Jul 2017 14:00:41
Okay, Mike. Put a bit of meat on the bones. Who are the 3 groups of players that are not speaking to each other. Also I note your close relationship with 2 players has now turned to just a source. Also how about a bit of good news since you are in the know, are the new guys any good.

As far as FC Progrès Niederkorn goes, old news as far as i'm concerned but while were on the subject, please note they only lost 1-0 to AEL Limassol which have a squad value of 6.6m, similar to Aberdeen. They are obviously not as bad as the press make out. Their league is similar to the level of the Scottish championship and there squad is valued similer to say QOS at 1.7m. On their day against a team not fully match fit these teams can take a scalp or 2. We have no right to win any game of football, if we think like that we will loose, loose and keep loosing.

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16 Jul 2017 12:39:29
If this is true, I would imagine this may be caused by players who know there on the way out and are not willing to invest in bonding with the new chaps. Once the dead wood has gone and we have a few results this will be a thing of the past.
As for training being to complicated, again probably the dead wood not being able to adapt to technical football.
If KM has had enough then he does not deserve to be there. If KM left for Hibs, now, then he would never be welcome back at Ibrox IMO and will go from Rangers legend to snake in pretty short order.
However there was a big IF at the start. Mike Fisher, you sound like a delusional Hibs or Celtic fan (ny) or both.

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22 Oct 2017 22:33:39
2/3 x 38 = 25.33,
25.33 x 3 = 76 points.
Im not being cheeky or want an argument with a fellow bear but how can you argue, wining 2 out of 3 will get you 76 points.

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22 Oct 2017 22:19:28
MOCBear, Good post, a bit of analysis with constructive solution, whether I agree or not I respect your opinion.

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22 Oct 2017 19:59:24
Slk73 its only my opinion calm down. Also are you disagreeing with my arithmetic.

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22 Oct 2017 19:00:51
First Sutton has nothing to do with the way we played, but in the after match analysis he was very forceful and wants Pedro sacked. i'm not delusional its just my opinion guys . We need to build the club back up, your asking the impossible if you think this will happen over night. Give till the end of season and then take stock anything short of that is not the Rangers way. Agree Pena is now running out of time as is Windass. Please keep it respectful on here guys and gals we are all (i think) on the same team and if we were down the pub speaking to each other like some posts then I can't see a second round being ordered.

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22 Oct 2017 00:10:16
Bigsam, I said not quite good enough for the EPL therefore may remain under the radar of bigger clubs and would probably stay at a club like Rangers longer term (Morelos already scouted) . I was only repeating what he said on the interview. I suppose he was saying he really wants to play but if a big club comes in then his mortgage/ kids comes first and would accept a pay rise even if on the bench. I think we need a talisman that will be with us for a few years, just thought he would be a good punt. When you say far more ambitious, give us an example of a player you would bring in as striker and how much you would pay and length of contract.

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