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26 Apr 2020 15:25:28
Genuine question
Why are Rangers fans so keen for the remainder of the season to be played? I respect the fact that mathematically you could still win the title but surely even the most optimistic rangers fan would concede this isn't going to happen.
As I see it the only 2 teams in the PL that should want games played out, behind closed doors/ over July-August/ whatever are hearts and Celtic. Hearts as they might as well fight relegation, they've nothing to lose. And Celtic so we can win a title without the asterisk. For teams 2-11 in the table, take the money and run, enjoy your summer holidays!
Seriously, what is the agenda? Would you really be pleased if UEFA decreed remaining games should be played behind closed doors in the summer? Surely there would be no interest afraid couple of weeks when the title is confirmed, and you've still to play 4/ 5/ 6 games for no reason. Seems illogical to me.
If it is just a wind up then fair enough, don't really see the funny side but at least makes sense as a p*ss take. Just keen to know what's going on.
1.) 26 Apr 2020 16:03:30
OK gerry, do you think the relegation of Hearts and Partick is fair and in keeping with sporting integrity? Is it what they signed up for at the start of the season? No of course it isn't. Well the same goes for the top of the table, we should be playing all the games as per agreement before the season starts. We have to play each other twice yet so how can you predict the outcome of these games, you can't. I understand that in your wee world there are no other points of view so that is why you struggle and assume we are at the wind up but in my world I fail to understand why you think you are deserving of a title when there are 9 games remaining.
2.) 26 Apr 2020 16:32:05
Well Mr Murphy, it is all about sporting and human integrity. Why indeed should Hearts and Partick be relegated when it is very clear that mathematically they could stay up? As for Celtic and Rangers, 13 points could become 10 with a game in hand and 4 if we beat you twice (not out of the question) . I cited recently the case in 1996 when Kevin Keegan's Newcastle United were 12 points clear of Fergie's Man Utd and still lost the league. Declare the whole thing null and void now and start again next season. If you want the title that bad then for Christ's sake have it. The corrupt SPFL and SFA will I'm sure make certain that happens.
3.) 26 Apr 2020 16:36:17
It's not even the games played that rangers are fighting. It's the obvious and blatant mess they made of the vote, arrogance that they won't even accept they may have done wrong or that errors were made, or that there are far too many coincidences in the corridors of power that are set up to protect and maintain the interests of one club (no prizes for guessing who that is)
4.) 26 Apr 2020 16:44:44
Jyf don't quite get your point, I said I can understand Celtic/ Hearts (and indeed Partick/ lower league teams in similar positions) wanting to finish the season, just couldn't understand Rangers keenness.
Doiger, I actually admire the fact you believe you can still win the title, fair play - I like to think I'd have as strong faith if the positions were reversed. So I'll take that as the best argument for carrying on.
As that seems unlikely, I propose the following; give you the 3 points for your game in hand, make it 10 points. Then Celtic/ Rangers go away to a quarantined location, play out 4 games against each other over a week - if you win all 4 you win the title by 2 points, if we get 1 draw it'll come down to goal difference, anything else the title is ours. seems fair enough!
For the record, as I've said, I don't want to be awarded the title, but there's a reality that has to set in at some point - assuming we want to play european football next year (in truth i'd happily not play it next year) . In this scenario maybe we just wait, 6/ 7/ 8/ 9 months and play the remiander of the season when its good to go. Otherwise we need to come up with a way of ending it in July/ august.
5.) 26 Apr 2020 16:51:55
I suspect what Rangers want is regime change at the top of the SPFL. They want immunity for the whistleblower before revealing what they have and so far the SPFL have not responded to the Rangers request for the policy dealing with whistleblowers.
I, like the majority of Rangers fans, concede the league is over but we want clarity, honesty and openness at the top of that corrupt organisation. Time tp clean out the Stygian stables, and that proved difficut!
6.) 26 Apr 2020 17:07:20
The reason I used Hearts and Partick is because it is not FAIR to relegate them and if it is not FAIR to relegate them then it is not FAIR to award you the title, or am I wrong? Yous keep going on about wanting to finish the season but yous clearly don't, you just want to get your hands on a title that is clearly tarnished and UNFAIR. If you think the vote was ran well and FAIR then I pity you, now do you understand why I, at least, can't see why you are getting the league handed to you without earning it?
7.) 26 Apr 2020 17:08:11
1/ because we can still win the title
2/ because we are still in Europe
Oh and don't forget Gerry, your club has already voted to END the season to claim an unearned tainted title.
So don't see your post as a genuine question. ðŸ‘.
8.) 26 Apr 2020 18:46:05
Celtic have played one more game than Rangers if Celtic are given the title that would be cheating now wouldn’t it now surely you don’t want That do we? And if you’re one shoe was on the other foot we would have resolution 13 for another how many years you can have the title when you win it on the park no more no less anything else is CHEATING 🇬🇧.
9.) 26 Apr 2020 19:51:29
Fact is Rangers can still win the league, so for me the race is still on. I'd never conceded unless its mathematically impossible.
10.) 26 Apr 2020 20:01:15
Gerry would you accept Dutch method final placing dictate Europe but no winners or relegation recorded this season?
11.) 26 Apr 2020 08:42:02
You answered your own question. It's mathematically possible so, why wouldn't you go for it. We are winners .
12.) 27 Apr 2020 08:43:28
Gerry, the league is decided on the team sitting top, after 38 games. of league football, i don't see how some can't see that, honestly, instead of clubs wanting money.
13.) 27 Apr 2020 08:50:03
How can teams from 2-11 take the money and run, who are Hearts playing behind closed doors then?
14.) 27 Apr 2020 18:18:20
because murphy its how you win trophies. first past the post and all that.
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26 Apr 2020 16:44:44
Jyf don't quite get your point, I said I can understand Celtic/ Hearts (and indeed Partick/ lower league teams in similar positions) wanting to finish the season, just couldn't understand Rangers keenness.
Doiger, I actually admire the fact you believe you can still win the title, fair play - I like to think I'd have as strong faith if the positions were reversed. So I'll take that as the best argument for carrying on.
As that seems unlikely, I propose the following; give you the 3 points for your game in hand, make it 10 points. Then Celtic/ Rangers go away to a quarantined location, play out 4 games against each other over a week - if you win all 4 you win the title by 2 points, if we get 1 draw it'll come down to goal difference, anything else the title is ours. seems fair enough!
For the record, as I've said, I don't want to be awarded the title, but there's a reality that has to set in at some point - assuming we want to play european football next year (in truth i'd happily not play it next year) . In this scenario maybe we just wait, 6/ 7/ 8/ 9 months and play the remiander of the season when its good to go. Otherwise we need to come up with a way of ending it in July/ august.
09 Mar 2019 10:23:55
Celtic fan in peace - Robbie, you're 100% right about the conduct of some fans and I'm getting sick of Celtic/ Rangers fans getting blamed for Scottish football's ills. People always try to bring it back to bigotry/ sectarianism and say its a west coast problem which is all a lot of nonsense.
Its hooliganism plain and simple and Hibs and Hearts fans are the worst offenders. that's twice in a week a hibs fan has attacked an old firm player, look at the incidents at tynecastle over the last few years too.
I reckon its time for a coherent voice from Celtic/ Rangers fans, the main problem has nothing to do with sectarianism (most folk don't even know what this word means), its about time the Edinburgh clubs started taking the flak for it, clearly they have bigger issues than us.
Wake up mate, its got nothing to do with you standing up to anyone. fact is they can't grant ibrox as security on a loan because THEY don't OWN IBROX!!
The sad truth is if NL/PL thought any of the players you mentioned were good enough for celtic we would just pinch them from you, how much would they cost anyway £500k tops? small change for us but you're robbing board would bite our hand off.
For the record I'd take Wallace - Izaguire is a shadow of the player he once was and needs some competition for his place. As for the rest, the boy mcleod looks ok but its too hard to judge in a part time league, could be worth a punt for the future tho.
#5 not sure to be honest, but don't know what that's got to do with anything, I would expect with our wage budget to win 33/34 out of 36 games in div2 and would regard anything less as an embarrassment.
The point I am making is, Mccoist and the rangers players, with a wage budget maybe 10x that of qots will be hard pushed to achieve what qots achieved this season.
I'd suggest its going to go a long way to prove that Allan Johnston is a far better manager than ally mccoist.