Rangers Banter Archive February 10 2015

 

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09 Feb 2015 23:14:54
Ed 039, whoever you are, your post is pathetic. You are of course missing the point and how dare you paint all Ranges fans and shareholders as potential hooligans! The EGM should have been held in Glasgow in the first place, and at Ibrox Stadium. Surely the cost of holding the meeting there would be lower and police can be deployed to ensure order? This Board is not and has not been complying with its responsibilities under Corporate Governance law and are crooked and bent to the last man. As for the rumours about Ashley is going to put Rangers into Admin, well turkeys don't vote for Christmas do they? He has the lucrative retail deal, for now. Any court in the land would reject an attempt to put Rangers into admin given the offers that have been made and rejected by this corrupt, disgusting group of people who masquerade as a Board. No wonder they are running scared. Criticise King all you like but Rangers investors will win the day and if this means one or two more years outside the SPL so be it. Follow, follow!

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{Ed039's Note - I think you are putting words in my mouth there, I did not say all Rangers fans and shareholders are hooligans, however if you read many posts on line there is a threat of disruption and violence and it is for that reason that the hotel in London have pulled the plug on being the venue, if you are niave enough to think that this is going to be a smooth EGM as most businesses have then you would be wrong and I do not blame the venue for withdrawing from it. There have been threats online of protests and you only need to look at the recent game against Hearts to see how peaceful protests turn nasty and that was at our own front door!! I do believe that Ibrox should be the venue and the current incumbants of the club are using that this as some sort of tactic, but for you to say my post suggests that all Rangers fans and shareholders are hooligans then you need to have a look at yourself, however if you are suggesting that this is going to be a normal business practice EGM and will go off without a hitch then you are very much mistaken. I think perhaps you should look at my post again and it is very much taken from the VENUES perspective and given by a man who works in their industry)

Cannot see any venue in London now agreeing to host the EGM. If one agreed to host it it will bombarded by Toxic Jack and others sending footage of the recent incidents during the Hearts match and descriptions of women losing teeth and pensioners being attacked.

Am not suggesting myself that this would happen in London but I would foresee an element there happy to shout etc and make a nuisance of themselves to hotel staff and other visitors.

Yes, the board are out of order trying to arrange it in London but the UOF have played completely into their hands by talking about the biggest mass mobilisation of fans since Manchester. Another own goal.

They would have been better advising fans to proxy votes and use the money saved from their trip south to buy shares.

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Ed at no time did u suggest that but the unfortunate thing is they are lunatics out there claiming to be rangers supporters who were planning to turn up to cause trouble and has been said many times in the past we do not wish to have anything to do with them but unfortunetly they exist

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{Ed039's Note - Youre right Bigwull, I am glad you see it from my perspective as well, there is not chance in hell this is going smoothly, even at Ibrox I can see folk being ejected from the ground because of it)

All the younger generation over the last few years have jumped on the band wagon of "Err awe Rangers haters". " Kicking us when we're down " "we will get revenge etc & by no means is it a minority, The anger & hate in the atmosphere is turning nasty ( yeh we all have had enough of this $hit for years) but threats intimidation online abuse doesn't shed any good light on our club. We should & should have had a prominent figure fronting all the pr & media in a professional way, instead of shouting heckling & bomber brown scenarios (jabba the hut traynor was a pr disaster). someone with decorum & presence that can fight our corner in a calm but powerful way. Surely too fu#k there's an honest intelligent intellectual figurehead out there somewhere!!!

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Doiger, I have not seen the post in question, but although I have disagreed with the Eds in the past, I would say they always give their take, on matters being discussed, with the facts that they have to hand.

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The board may be out of order having meeting in london and no doubt ibrox would have been cheaper and better but the meeting is in london so everyone with shares either get there votes sorted by proxy or make arrangements to attend but the board must be given no chance to shout foul play abandon meeting then have to go through complete process again and again

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N3. This board won't allow anybody to come in and stand up for the fans, there was the supporters board, hand picked by the board at our club, what happened to them oh that's right they told the club they did not agree with the way they were running the club, that was that eh.

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11 Feb 2015 07:19:44
I agree with sum, Ed 039, is fair and decent, and speaks to folk in a respectful manner, (unlike another) Is there any chance we could have a straightforward guide to posting votes, or proxying them,, Now I am not a shareholder, but I feel the guys who are will need guidance, this must go through in an orderly fashion, it may be that proxying voting rights is simple? I don't know, but there must be a collective voice, I will be abroad on the 4th, I pray I come home to good news

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Tommy we all hope you come home to good news mate. lol.

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Doiger, Who ever you are!!
I have always held Ed 039 ops to be balanced and true.
Re the EGM yes we do have a disruptive element in our ranks like all clubs have and also can you blame anybody for there bloods running high after the last few years?
So here is a suggestion for Dave King to grab the upper hand over the SPIVS.
Offer to arrange the venue plus provide all security.
Any trouble then falls on hopefully our new board to resolve.

Dounebear

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The Board's antics prove they are depending on trouble causing the G to be cancelled. It is absolutely imperative that Proxy votes are used and people stay away. Leave it to the major shareholders.

On a broader issue the only way Ashley can be stopped in the long run is for the SFA to ban him from any association with Scottish Football for life. This should be easy due to his illegal influencing of the Club that is strictly against the rules.

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11 feb 2015 13:34:49
dbear, that wouild be a gr8 idea for dk to offer the site and security, but i doubt very much if they would even consider it, there has to be another reason for london being chosen

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10 Feb 2015 15:58:19
I really wonder what this current Board have up their sleeves. I can't believe they are going to walk into this EGM knowing they are going go be turfed out on their ears.

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10 Feb 2015 18:38:36
I FOR ONE don't IMAGINE








I don't imagine for one minute this board are going to walk away easily , they will do what they can to delay, blame fans blame security ,unable to find suitable venue in said time etc I will and I hope iam wrong get it postponed indefinately till they get their next move in place I hope not.

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Vegas, What egm? I can see this ending up in the courts and turning very, very nasty.
The only solution is for Ashley and King to reach some sort of compromise or we will be big time losers.

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11 Feb 2015 07:22:17
fand proxy every single vote, then stay away, let DK give us the news

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Tommy I agree let dave king give us the news, beside these people will need to appear to clear out there desks, so we can give them a rousing reception when the occasion does arise, yee ha.

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10 Feb 2015 15:48:47
McCullough has played his role with distinction, no question but like every player, age creeps up.

The source of our problem lies at McCoist's feet. We have an aged team and there's no balance with youth. The CEOs coming in over the years were naïve to the manager's requests of signings and we basically ended up re signing ex players in the twilight of their careers or SPL ones well through theirs. Bell's injury has turned out to be one of the longest running of a goalkeeper I can recall but that aside I can't think of a player beyond Wallace who will be given another contract next season. It's going to be a total wipe out.

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Not long ago folk saying he's a £3 million player lol

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Lee wallace suffers from same problem as every other player macoist brought in bad coaching and bad tactics have resulted in all the players going back rather than kicking on and improving

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10 Feb 2015 22:26:51
You also know only reason lee Wallace stayed after liquidation was not because he was a hero like a lot o you think! He hadn't been paid for completely so therefore was not free to walk away, other than walking back along m8 to hearts

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Dangy67. Who or what is izzy.

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11 Feb 2015 18:35:52
Jambo1874
The fact that the fee hadn't been cleared off at that time was nothing to do with Wallace. He could have left at any time like the rest. The issue was between the clubs.

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10 Feb 2015 10:14:12
Anyone read the cowardly captain? By someone called Robert Gray? Embarrassment of a rangers fan. Lee mcculloch might be the worst captain in our history but he is a rangers player and he seems to be the only one on the park that cares! Guys like law Daly Wallace escape criticism. Some fans need to realise we are in the championship of Scotland guys like Carlos cuellar don't want to come and play here.

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Ceexxx I think big lee should have hung up his boots before now, he done us proud by staying, but he has been well rewarded for his loyalty, and will continue to be rewarded by appearing in TV on match days on occasion, surely.

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Over the years Lee's been great for Rangers. No question. But at the moment, he's a red card waiting to happen and his elbowing and stamping in recent games should not be condoned.

Would really worry about him in the play-offs where it is absolutely vital we keep 11 on the field throughout.

PS Didn't read the article.

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Law gets pelters from the Rangers support and is regularly criticised however McCulloch is done and isn't a centre half. He needs to be dropped as he is a liability now

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I agree he is done but the choice of words used against him and mccoist such as leachs is uncalled for nobody is hurting more than ally mccoist and Lee mcculloch they would give a left rollock for the club and yeah there best isn't/wasn't good enough but it's a team game and jig being singled out time and time again is uncalled for and it's embarrassing. We all know what he does but no one else at the club has as much passion and fight as jig!

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You've got to be joking if you think Ally is hurting. That man has made a fortune out of the club and is as culpable as anyone for the mess that is Rangers.

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10 Feb 2015 00:15:42
there are a few fans groups which are investing in rangers and that's great. Personally I pay towards rangers first.

I was just wondering does anyone know who is actually in charge of the 'rangers fighting fund'? As over £500k was raised at the time and its just been sitting there. It was mentioned again when there was talk of legal action against Ashley if he used ibrox as security for the loan.

So I was just wondering who / which group has say as to what to do with this money? As surely it would help a lot towards buying more shares in rangers? It was raised by the fans so surely it should go towards the fans investment in shares?

Just an idea

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10 Feb 2015 08:40:32
Hi mate, that money was made available by the Rangers Fans Fighting Fund for the RST, RST submitted a petition to the Court of Session in Edinburgh on Monday 26th January, seeking an interim interdict to stop the Rangers board from granting security over Ibrox in favour of Sports Direct. There is no doubt money in the RFFF however they are anti biased and rightly so they will not publicly back one or the other as that fund has members who still take issue with DK and PM. They only released the funds due to the concerns Ibrox was going to be sold.

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I had asked what happened to the fund a few weeks ago and suggested it be used to buy shares. As you said it was to be used to pay for lawyers to stop ashley getting his hands on ibrox

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