Rangers Banter Archive March 10 2014

 

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10 Mar 2014 19:20:52
I really wish Ally would step down. Every team in Scotland must know Ally has just one tactic - lob the ball into the penalty box. I can't take any more. It is putting me off watching any more games. It is diabolical.

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Lob the cash you mean.

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He will never walk of his own accord, we must voice our opinion loud and clear for him and his bosses to hear.
McCOIST OUT NOW!

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10 Mar 2014 17:42:55
I've made a decision ed, I'm not watching another game under ally, that was a total waste of a Sunday afternoon yesterday, I know people will tell me I'm not a REAL fan, but I know I am, I've supported rangers for 30 years but I can't watch that standard of football anymore, this is a management team and set of players playing under the rangers badge but none of them are rangers standard, I can't believe a left back is our best player, what other team relies on a full back to be their most creative player? Dean shiels should never play another game after yest, Ian black is garbage, Nicky law has went backwards and looked really slow yest, can't believe we paid money for templeton, the guy is hopeless.

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{Ed039's Note - I dont think the players are the problem, the problem in my opinion Sweep, and I have been vocal on here for long enough about this, is the management team who do not have a clue. The three wise men in the dug out need to shoulder the blame because established premiership players do not become bad players in the blink of an eye, players need good guidance, good management and good leadership and they do not get that)

Think your probably right ed, but you must admit that performance of dean shiels yesterday was a disgrace.

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{Ed039's Note - No problem admitting that, he had a poor game, but nobody seemed to want to take the game by the scruff of the neck, no leaders on the pitch and I am afraid that means Big Jig too)

Ed u are 100%right the changes he made on sunday were diabolical modhni may have scored the goal but why did he take daly of at that stage rovers players could hardly walk the night s of the first euro yies he took charge the wheels were coming off the bus and he stood on the touchline with his arms folded and spoke to no one I realised then he did not have the ability to coach rangers ally is a bigger threat to rangers right now than the board the amount season book holders I know that I know that are not going towithhold there money they are not going to renew there books at all which woulh be a total disaster he must go and go now and worry about his redundacy terms later

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@ sweep1, lbj d and ED "that is because you are not REAL RANGERS FANS"
Yes it might be all the players Super A brought to the club, yes he might train them, yes he might pick the team and the substitues, yes it might be his tactics including players out of position, yes he is in charge of motivating the team including getting them up for a match against part timers from the division below to get the Gers into the Semi Final at Ibrox.
But what you do not get- it is always somebody else's fault. If you cannot see Ally is untouchable you are not a proper fan. Yes the stadium is emptying because of the poor performances and tactics yes the clubs track record in All major cup competitions is atrocious and he gets paid a huge wad of money which allows him to play golf when we are all at work when the LNS verdict is announced. But he didn't know how much he was getting paid even that was somebody else's fault. Yes he might know we are skint but that is not important as long as he knows who he can bring in and no that is not being utterly selfish and uncaring about the club. How could it be he is Super Ally- the fault always lies elsewhere- the players, the circumstances, the media everybody and everything else but never Super Ally and if you cannot see that you are not a proper rangers fan.

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{Ed039's Note - I am in complete agreement with you NB)

Speaking about Sunday only I actually thought to myself that Daly had to come off & Mohsni had to go up front. Yes he's a bombscare but he's a tryer he's played there before has goals in him and he actually didn't do too bad up top holding the ball, I'm not saying he should ever play there again but on Sunday I really do think he had too & I think Daly had to come off as did Sheils. As I said further down the page I didn't know who was all on the bench I didn't have a program or that but Little coming on for Sheils & Daly coming off for Faure actually wasn't the worst idea. Most people saying jig should've went upfront but I think the right thing was done. I assume Crawford & Peralta were the other two on the bench I don't think they would have changed the game. We should never have been on that mess in the 1st place though I don't think a single Rangers player deserved pass marks & I've not said this yet but hats off to Albion they did what they could & kept Wallace out the game better than any lower league team so far I'd say.

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Well done Nbear best post I've read in a long time, wish there was more fans like you.

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There are three yes answers u missed yes he always backs the chairman yes I am a real rangers fan and the biggest yes iwant to change it make him touchable with someones no 9 boot oot the door because basically sick of watching mince and when he opens his mouth listening to mince and basically every time I think about him I could cheerfully kick him out the door myself

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Laarky bear do u sit round the campfire wi ally discussing tactics or do u give him a loan of a fag packet to write the tactis on or maybe u use the same fortune teller

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I have read all the above posts and eds replys and agree with you all. however we are in a catch 22situation here. I think we all agree ally is totally out his depth. we all agree the crowds are dwindling because of the inept performances and tactics. so as crowds dwindle the chance of administration looms. so I ask you all one question;who in their right mind is going to leave a club and come to us. so I'm afraid ally and the board have us by the oblongs!

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Bj I am not an Ally sympathiser I want him to leave that is clear all I am saying is in the last 20 minutes on Sunday he did the only thing he could do to keep us in the cup & it worked to an extent. It should never have got to that stage but it did just this once he actually made the right decision regarding substitutes & I need not prove that.

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@9 that change was sheer panic by Ally and he got lucky with it. Plain and simple as that

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Tell me what you would have done differently then?

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@11 rangers should start games at a much higher tempo. We should be in their faces from the first minute and feeding the wingers and letting them run at the Albion defenders. Instead it's a slow build up with too many side passes. No penetration and no urgency. If Rangers had started like that then We would not have been in the position we were in. Too many times the tempo has been far too slow but nothing gets done about it

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N12 stewie must agree with you I ve always wondered why don't we start at the pace we started with in our last game against dumfermline

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10 Mar 2014 10:28:26
I have been an Ally apologist for some time. I truly believed that the way we were playing was the quality of opposition, the way these part-time teams raise their game, the pitches, the weather and the permanent state of flux in our boardroom. However, I have watched all our games since Forfar at Ibrox on RTV and was up for the Dunfermline cup game in Feb, and this is just heartbreaking. I was wondering if the Union Bears play requests. I would pay handsomely for a reprisal of an old eighties classic. it goes. Ally get tae F£@, Ally, Ally, get tae f£?@.

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Rank rotten

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I was actually hoping we would get beat in the end as it might have been the final nail in Ally's coffin, John Greig got the bullet for less. He should go before he leaves a stain on our memories of him

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Wishing your own team would be beat shame on you!. No Rangers fans should ever utter the nonsense you just came out with. Disgusting comment.

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@2 I am not an Ally fan and want him out however I could never wish a defeat even if it got rid of him. Hate it when we lose no matter who beats us.

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11 Mar 2014 22:30:12
Makes u wonder if those words were said for his own agenda? i'm shocked jig hasn't said sumthing by now. And as for walter basically handing him the job. Did he never notice the guy hasn't a clue?
Tomblue

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10 Mar 2014 10:21:09
I was at game yesterday and what I was most disappointed about was the miserly attendance of 26,000, none of us are lovers of Charles Green but he did a survey and proved Rangers have over 2. 5MILLION fans worldwide. where were all the so called loyal fans yesterday at a time when our club needs every penny to survive.
Luckily we are still in cup and I believe we will now go on and win it as Dundee United and Aberdeen are no great shakes. I guarantee all the glory seekers will be at the final so where were they yesterday?

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Maybe because fans are fed up with the dross that is being served up on the park, for weeks possibly months we have struggled against teams that we should be wiping the floor with. The tactics the manager employs are baffling, yesterday being a perfect example and as for Aberdeen and Dundee United are you on the beer with that comment? They will destroy us on yesterday's showing

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"no great shakes " so what does that make rangers? delusional comment considering you needed a very dubious goal to overcome a part time 4th tier team who brought on a sub who worked for asda! reality check mate!

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Tell me how green proved a 2.5m support, I would take anything he says as a lie

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ST sales must surely fall this year so what purpose does McCoist serve then? I hope he is sacked and not allowed to "do what's best for Rangers" at the end of the season because in my opinion he should be held accountable for his actions, but as long as he goes Rangers will finally be able to move forward at least in football terms.

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It pains me to say this but when we where trailing Albion Rovers yesterday all I could think of was if this result stays the same (0-1)disastrous as it was, maybe just maybe there would be a silver lining to an embarrassing defeat.

Maybe then somebody would put their foot right up Allys a55 and boot him right out the door along with his backroom staff.

Ally does not have a clue when it comes to tactics, long high ball up to big Daly all first half and everyone could see it was not working so what does our tactical genius do? he takes Daly of moves Mohsni up front and you guessed it big long high balls up to Mohsni. if it was not for a contentious goal (in my opinion it was a foul on the keeper) we could be looking at a new chapter in Rangers history. if Dave King wants my season ticket money into his kitty I want reassurances that he will have a purge at ibrox all the way from the directors right down to the management and his backroom staff

Lochaber Bear

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@1 and @2 you better watch Johncass might think you talking piss with them comments even though what your saying is true.

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I'm sure ally looked hangover yesterday, anyone see him in the fox and hounds on Sat night discussing tactics?

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10 Mar 2014 18:53:21
#5 Absolutely. And as I've said before Dave King or any other hard nosed businessman isn't going to want Ally and co to have anything to do with the management team.

They don't make enough of youth even in Scotland's lowest leagues, they're tactically incompetent and Ally will always see spend-spend-spend as the solution and if he's like that now imagine him in the top flight.

What they'll want is a Jackie McNamara type, who is apparently highly professional, has his team playing attractive football, can survive without cheque book signings and even make money on players reared at Tannadice. Obviously he might not be a popular choice to replace Ally at Ibrox but I think he'd do a great job, although Derek MacInnes would still be my no. 1 choice.

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Clarkston bud some fans pay there ticket by direct debit and can't afford to go I don't know what your job is but if performed like ally every day at your work u would get sacked I can afford to go but I am sick fed up sitting looking all round about me up at the sky anywhere other than the game that's being played that's why I did not go and iam certain a lot of others are the same

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10 Mar 2014 09:25:44
Questions for fellow Bears to answer as I don't know what is going on. Is Lewis McLeod still injured? Is Barrie MacKay still out on loan? Where are Crawford, Hutton, Gasparotto, Hegarty and Nicky Clark? And why does McCoist persist with playing Black? Surely if the seven players I've mentioned here were fit and available things would be much better? The only class player we have right now is Wallace. McCulloch was great but surely a bit past it now. Not looking good for the Scottish Cup even if we do win the replay but surely we can clinch the League 1 title on Wednesday night?

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Hutton and Hegarty are both long term injuries along with Macleod.
Mackay is on loan at Morton, and Crawford was on the bench v Albion Rovers.
All the others play for the U20s.
For the game v Airdrie we need to give Daly some support upfront 4-4-2 instead of 4-4-1-1.
Templeton was one of the better players v Albion Rovers but he is more effective through the middle.
Why doesn't Crawford get a chance at RM and move Aird wide left.
We need to stop playing the long ball into Daly.

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Thanks very much copland1 for putting me in the picture. I think we need these players back and fit asap!

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Op even if the players you mentioned were fit I don't think they would get a game as mccoist does not like to give youngsters much game time

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10 Mar 2014 08:47:38
In my almost 40 years of being a rangers season ticket holder I have to be honest when I say I can't ever mind of coming out of ibrox as disappointed as I was today,no creative spark in the midfield,poor,poor defending,no width,no decent movement up front,we couldn't do the basics ie. passing a simple ball from a to b,footballers within our team who can't control a football, the best & most creative midfielder we have at ibrox is without a doubt young lewis mcleod,please hurry back from injury young man,even when mcleod is fit ally plays him wide left which he certainly shouldn't because everybody & their grannies knows that young lewis is a centre mid,I could go on here and write pages & pages of how inept we are and the performances especially in the 2nd half of this season & the one today is totally unacceptable in my opinion fellow bears,it tears the heart out me to say this because although we will get past albion rovers in the replay,dundee utd will maul us in the semis and it doesn't matter the game is at the 'brox,I really do hope I'm wrong but with the performances we're producing I fear for us against dundee utd because they could give us a right hiding,we could really struggle to win the scottish championship next season & we can't afford to be out the top league any longer than we should,no excuses ally,you have a bit to prove that you are the manager to take us up next season,I've always given mccoist my wholehearted backing but I'm beginning to doubt ally's tactical nous & his ability to see the game early and make a change to change the course of a game,this punt up to big daly is outdated,stoneage football,we should be destroying teams in these lower divisions with flair & precision,what do we think fellow, disgruntled 'gers fans?

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Entirely agree. Without playing the Greybeard, I can go back to the Iron Curtain days and I have never in 60 years seen performances or motivation at such an abysmal level. The club, corporately and on the park, needs a 100% root and branch revolution. If King hopefully ignites the fan base and wins power, there must be an early and radical change of the hapless coaching team. There is sadly a slow fire burning under Ally's playing legacy and it is purely self-interest that let's him perpetuate the present management fiasco. Yesterday's greater embarrassment was his surreal pretence that there was nothing to be ashamed off in that shambles. A new, modern football management team, led by a credible and experienced tactician with proven motivation skills, must be King's priority in tandem with boardroom change. The present set-up is a disgrace and an affront to Rangers' great traditions. One hopes King, or whoever wins power in the coming end game, will have the courage and insight - and of course the investment - to bring in scouting, coaching and recruitment of a vastly improved calibre. This cannot and must not be allowed to continue. There are many fans down here of net worth who would support Mr. McLure and Mr. Letham in financing that change if King can galvanise these forces.

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Cannot believe you are still hanging your hat on King, jeez, where was he when you needed him and now he is doing exactly what Murray and McColl did, saying the right things and you lot are lapping it up. Wealthy people willing to invest in the club, really where were they when the share issue was released, when the club needed their help. David Murrayw as the worst thing that could have happened to you because you think that someone else will come in and give the club tens of millions to spend on players again, those days are gone and you now have to live within your means.

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Look the talk of d king etc they hever bought shares in the first rights issue so don't expect them to do so now the oly answer is to get as many bears as poss to pay £25 a month which for most this is is afforable if u could get 300000 in a short time u would have enough to buy the bandits out and provide some working capital letts face the bandits are not going to walk away without areturn on there money the sooner everybody realises this that's the only way to get rid of them

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Allymac King was unable to buy rangers when it was A. Up for sale when Murray was selling and B. when the newco started because a South African court forze his assests and banned him from holding such an investment. Facts people, check your facts before posting.

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N4 even if dk was able to bid for rangers there was only going to be one outcome due to duff and phelps

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09 Mar 2014 23:44:27
I simply have one question. Where are all the Ally apologists now? You are all very quiet. This guy has taken a few million out of the club in a time of need for his own personal gain, but worse still, decided to get dross in, when we can't afford it and let the board pay them a fortune. There is obvious carry on happening with the finances but Ally still backs every chairman because he is securing his pay packet. And people still call him a legend!!FFS is it me? because I just don't understand

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As much as I agree Ally is not a football manager never mind Rangers manager you are correct though you don't understand it. Ally did not sanction his own wages, or any of the players for that matter. He gives the board a list & they go for them they should have told him from day one there was a limit they did not. I saw no one complaining when we had stand out players from last season coming in on a free like Law & Daly, Full internationals like Peralta decent keeper in Bell also on paper these were fantastic signings. The fault lies with Ally & the players on the pitch they are not performing either but if u want to talk money look no further than the board. They have not made the cuts necessary & unfortunately for us Ally will not walk away he loves this club as much as any of us. What else can he do other than back the boards at 1st when they're spoon feeding him all the same lies that the majority of us believed. We do the exact same now everytime Dave King speaks, god forbid people like Paul Murray Douglas Park or that guy that owned Sale Sharks aren't throwing there tuppence in we would all be creaming ourselves!

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{Ed001's Note - I think you are failing to understand something yourself. When Ally's wages were decided, do you think he had no involvement at all? Even when a player/manager etc leave it to their agent to settle the details, they have to give their say so to the overall figures. Prior to that, he would have spoken to his agent and given a ball park figure he was looking for, and a minimum he would be willing to accept. If the final figure achieved it £800k, then you can safely bet that he started out looking for £1m, at least. I know people believe agents are the devil, and I agree, up to a point, but they still act on instruction from the person they represent. No agent has the power to sign a binding contract on behalf of their client, they merely negotiate the details, at the behest of their client. I know Rangers fans love him as a player, but that doesn't mean he is one of you, because he is not. This is a job to him, first and foremost.}

Heeeeeey fonz lighten up man. ally has had to endure what no other manager in history has had to put up with and most wouldve walked long ago, as for the players if it wasn't for the fact we're skint the majority would never had. pulled on that famous jersey in there life. so we are were we are let's just be happy we're still in it
r. f.

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{Ed001's Note - sorry but you are talking nonsense. There have been many managers who have gone through similar situations to Ally, many have gone through worse. Try speaking to Didi Hamann about his time at Stockport County, when he ended up paying the electricity bill out of his own pocket shortly after being appointed manager. Ally is being paid extremely well to manage a football club, the only thing that should matter is whether he is doing it well or not.}

I do understand that Ed & I don't buy the didn't look at the contract when he signed it patter either. I just can't see him take all the blame for the Clubs finances when he's not the one handing out these ridiculous contracts. I don't know many people that wouldn't sign a multi million pound contract when it's infront of you. Ally's really not the sharpest tool in the box & it's clear to see he hasn't got the 1st clue about how much money is in the Club he needs to go but it's not all his fault that's all I was trying to say

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{Ed001's Note - I know he is not the brightest, but he is no way completely divorced from the matter of finances. He is the manager after all, if he doesn't know what the club can afford, well then it is his job to find out. He is in charge of the club and, if he is a good manager, he would want what is best for the club for the long term. Don't get me wrong, Ally is not the only manager to care little for the future of the club and only look at short term results. There are many of them scattered throughout world football. The point is that he is still the manager, he needs to either act like one or the club is in trouble.}

10 Mar 2014 16:12:30
Wasting ure time Lb. No matter wot McCoist. And he is poor. He was always a born n bred gers fan. I know that for a fact and so do thousands of others. But he has to go
tomblue

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Larky bear ally is more interested in how many pictures of the queen he gates in his pay poke he would most definetly have contact with the players signed rangers don't work like real clubs when it comes to signing players ally would have the say who signed and who didn't he also would have input into wages ally is first for ally and everything comes behind that

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With the players mccoist has at his disposal we should be hammering the teams we are playing against in the lower leagues up until october we were winning very comfortably so what's happened ime not sure but did we not bear ar 4 0 the last time we met what's happened to the bundle of goals we scored earlier in the season

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