Rangers Banter Archive September 10 2016

10 Sep 2016 21:15:46
Need to take the positives . Windass is a prospect .

Am behind Barton but an average player made him look like willy wallpaper the day.

We can't complain the hat is doing his best, need to tighten up the midfield then they won't be winning by a few goal.

Season has a long way to go, am hoping for another helicopter.

10 Sep 2016 21:25:11
I'll have a pint of what ever your drinking BlueBlood, there will be no helicopter this season pal. Mr King needs to stop buying freebies and spend some dosh. Once we pump youz at Ipox then you will need to spend. Hail Hail.

10 Sep 2016 22:17:36
you played well tamtic, nothings went our way this year lots of players struggling for fitness, few injured and struggled for form. hopefully this is the kick up the backside these boys need and we can improve a bit and give you lot a hammering lol.

10 Sep 2016 22:38:21
What does Ipox even mean? Is it meant to be an insult or funny or what, I don't get it?

I like how optimistic you are Blue but I think we should be grateful of second place this year.

10 Sep 2016 23:42:54
How can you buy a freebie?

11 Sep 2016 02:09:51
Wallace out Halliday or Hodson in the left back role, we need a new captain aswell btw, Wallace just isn't a leader in my eyes.

10 Sep 2016 20:52:57
Was at the game and have since watched it again (glutton for punishment)
The result was a sore one to take but the performance wasn't as bad as first thought.
The manager wasn't convinced on the signing of senderros to start with but he still thinks he's better than what we already have as he survived the hook come substitution time, senderros was the best we could get at the time and at the money available.
It was a bit chaos theory in everything that could go wrong did go wrong, Griffiths may have passed a fitness and dembele wouldn't even be playing, we take off a cb to chase the game and two minutes later our other cb gets red carded and we have made our three subs.
Ask yourself and answer honestly did you think rangers deserved to be 2 nil down at halftime and when it was 2-1 who didn't believe we couldn't get back into it?
Our manager twisted instead of sticking and came unstuck but no guts no glory.

10 Sep 2016 21:27:50
That's a fair analysis. However, MW DW have known about our defensive problems for many months. Should've been first on the list during the summer transfer window. But it's only one game. Lick our wounds and carry on.

10 Sep 2016 23:00:29
Garryscott, let me tell you how far RANGERS are behind Celtic. About £10 to £15mill in spending in order to even start a challenge and that's if Celtic stand still. With the current squad 2nd place isn't going to happen. Barton and kranjar are not the answer so that's a pile of money gone on wages and they will be gone end of season. No serious funds are coming from King so at best it's a long road back. Let's see what happens against Hearts and Aberdeen but there is no reason to believe that those games are a walk in the park. Rangers had 2 shots on target today. Celtic had 9. Celtic aren't a great side but better than last season but Rangers have gone the other way. lost all the legs, carrying over the hill players who are now the mainstay of the team. They won't see out the season.

11 Sep 2016 00:12:40
The problem was that it wasn't unexpected and the prime reason was our failure to acquire two centre backs in the summer. The acquisition of Senderos was not the preferred action and clearly we failed to bring in the requisite player with the funds available. But none of this excuses Warburton from continuously persevering with Kiernan.

10 Sep 2016 19:57:23
Let's stop having a go at Barton . I actually thought he had a decent game today. It's guys like Kranjar, Kiernan and Wallace who need to look themselves in the mirror. They don't look near good enough. All the people who said Wallace was the best left back in Scotland and should be in the Scotland team must be bonkers! It's time for your gilks, hodson, crooks, Windass, holt, ohalloran etc to all start.

10 Sep 2016 20:16:33
Gilks? U kidding . Wes had a good game today, wasn't at fault for any of the goals, made some good saves and his distribution was good.
I agree abt Crooks and Holt coming in and Harry must start before Niko. Also hope Rossiter is fit soon as he's got better energy than Barton.
Wallace didn't look fit today and maybe needs "rested" with Hodson getting a chance.
McKay needs a kick up the ass and I'd like to see Ohalloran get a run of games.
Team needs energy and pace badly.

10 Sep 2016 20:27:12
Ur right djab! Nikos lack lack of fitness is a huge worry and was the contributing factor as to y he had to b replaced ( was lunging at every challenge due to lack of fitness) could easily have had another yellow for persistent fouling, keirnan and senderos both looked like they were looking for any excuse to get off the pitch before the inevitable with both, senderos''s red card was unforgivable in my opinion and showed a complete lack of desire and responsibility in my opinion of course! , whilst Barton wasn't anywhere near good enough at least he never shirked or bailed on the team like others did! Only windass and mckay can walk away from that shambles with even a hint of pride in my eyes, windass continue's to impress even when the chips are down.

However if I detach myself from my bias for a moment, celtic r streets ahead of us at the moment (as they should be all things considered ) . In my opinion we got exactly what we deserved today, at least now we have the measure of exactly where we r now and what we need to aspire too! As hard as that is to admit for someone who was brought up in the 9 in a row winning era.

They have a couple of absolute gems in there team in dembele and especially rogic.

1 gutted bear here but hopeful for the future! Onwards and upwards guys.

Special mention to the idiots that decided to wreck the park head toilets, would have liked to have thought we could have been graceful in defeat but that idiotic minority embarrassed the real fans again.

10 Sep 2016 20:52:51
Remember one season we got beat 6_2 the following game we won 5_1 it's a long season a wee bit less hysteria would be good lads.

10 Sep 2016 20:55:40
Why Forrester didn't start is beyond me. One positive from today is the lad Windass who looks a great signing. I thought Niko looked a lot sharper than previous games, and showed dig. Ok so he mistimed a few challenges but would rather that than the powder puff challenges from some of the team. Niko distribution was decent. Far better than McKay, who has been woeful this season and must be dropped. Try and not be swayed by the constant drivel spoken by quasi commentator Andy Walker. Niko was better than most in the first 30mins. At least he was putting it about.

I'm not even going to mention the defence as I'm like a broken record with those guys. I blame MW DW. They had time to fix the problem and failed. I don't accept MW post match comments either. Guy needs to wake up.

Players who showed promise; Windass, Tav

Players who need a good talking to: Senderos, Kiernan, McKay, Wallace

I think this is the wake up call we needed and can see us kicking on from here. Players like Barton have their egos bruised and this will motivate them to do better.

£26.5 million versus £4.6 million. It was evident today.

10 Sep 2016 21:03:05
ScottyGDF my old man's work supply the materials for the toilets at Ibrox and Parkhead. This happens at every Old Firm game at both Ibrox and Parkhead. It's almost a ritual and has been for decades. Just typical of Celtic fans to make a massive deal about it now social media has taken over from actual news. Notice that Celtic are dealing with at as an internal matter and not involving police? Yeah because the same thing will be happening on Hogmanay. I'm
In no way condoning it as I don't see the point. The inevitable retaliation will cost our club a few grand. Silly really.

10 Sep 2016 21:36:45
McKay shouldn't start he has been terrible so far this season Barton and niko need time on the ball but they don't get that in Scotland I think we need to change the system but I Thot today we had a few good spells and then gave cheep goals away again and again what do they do in training because it's week in week out same problems.

10 Sep 2016 22:20:19
warbs went for it, it didn't work and it went from disaster to disaster on another day it may have been different. I am 100 percent behind Barton and kranjcar and both will prove they are upto it in time.

10 Sep 2016 22:55:43
How can anyone praise Kranjcar after that performance he was awful along with most of the team. Getting hooked at half time was the only thing Warburton got right today.

10 Sep 2016 23:13:57
All I've constantly heard is "we'll learn from it" everytime we get a bad result. ok i know he needs to say something positive but its getting annoying, predictable and boring.

11 Sep 2016 00:08:19
Kranjar and Barton were poor today - Mckay seems to be lacking in confidence just now - I knew it was going to be tough today and it made unpleasant viewing - here's hoping for some positives in the coming weeks from Holt, Windass, Bates, Forrester, Garner and of course big Garth - we do have the players who can make a difference. - It's 3 points dropped - not a season wrecker -.

10 Sep 2016 23:25:18
It's a ridiculous act of vandalism whether it's celtic park, ibrox or even Pittodrie (and I dislike Pittodrie ) good to know someone is getting business out of it tho monty lol! Must make you prime suspect methinks!

Seriously tho! Our club has more pressing issues to spend money on rather than the inevitable retaliation on hogmanay!

On that point! The pics were actually released from my mates phone who was a steward at the game today! He's a right bitter person I have to say and they're revelling in the whole "lowlife person thug" thing.

10 Sep 2016 19:23:43
Very bad day for all things Rangers. Pathetic performance at Celtic park and why oh why do so called supporters feel the need to tarnish the clubs name by smashing up the toilets. what's the point of that . pathetic. Mr Warburton has to learn that was unacceptable and i feel that the big name summer signings have weakened the team. Tactics after going 3-1 down and the sending off are at best questionable. Mr Barton needs to show what he can do on the park rather than twitter or ship out. Trurh be told the team haven't kicked a ball since last seasons semi final win over celtic. Best team won no complaints.

10 Sep 2016 21:06:55
The toilets get smashed up at every Old Firm at both Ibrox and Parkhead. It's been happening for decades. Doesn't excuse it but it's tit for tat.

10 Sep 2016 19:10:00
Welcome to the big league. Well guys 5 games in and 3rd place not bad for you really in the top league.
Also negative goal difference says it all. Your wonderful manager it seems to me can't pick a team and only has plan A.
He can't find a defender even tho it was obv to everyone even in the championship your team can't defend.
But don't worry he has a magic hat.

10 Sep 2016 19:51:11
Aye fair play. Easily better team. Fortunes more to spend and a merchandising deal that ensures money goes to your club, what a wonderful achievement and how proud you must be. Interesting to see how midweek goes against the elite.

Call it sour grapes, but its just fact. Fair play, decent manager and promising signings in Dembele and Sinclair, but let's see how they go vs mascherano and pique and not Senderos and Kiernan

"Welcome to the big league". Aye ok, Scottish football is a pile of sh*** and you know it!

10 Sep 2016 19:53:59
Don't know why we didn't go for some like Vaulks from Falkirk. Strong defensive player who could score goals. Instead the magic-less hat opts for a 37 year old a slow 31 year old who has hardly played in the last year and the hapless Kiernan. Truly inspiring choices.

10 Sep 2016 20:10:39
Its the usual pile of rubbish when u get beat, Scottish football is crap blah blah blah.
Face up to it just like there is a gulf between us and Barcelona there is a gulf between you and Celtic.
We have very little chance of beating them on tues but we KNOW that, last week you were telling us how you were going to beat us that's the difference we know where we are.
We are not deluded.

10 Sep 2016 20:13:55
If scottish football is such a pile of sh##e where dors that leave your team toiling against bottom 6 teams wait till you need to play the bigger teams ie hearts and the sheep? If i were you i would be nervous looks like the warburton experiment ain't working?

10 Sep 2016 20:28:34
Aye very good. Take the word of emotive supporters over the bookies and neutrals.

Scottish football is brutal and you know the financial advantages you have (just as the champions league elite gave over everyone else)

Considering we win the semi final, I think you cannot calm it deluded. We know where we are now. I have gave a fair assessment. Celtic were the better side but let's not get too cocky. You are hardly world beaters.

Particle, st Johnstone, Hamilton, killir etc "blah, blah, blah"

Come on, wise up.

10 Sep 2016 20:28:57
Nothing like being a graceful winner then Raymond eh!

10 Sep 2016 20:42:23
bigp

Leave our team with very much to prove. If we pay the second highest wages, I guess we should finish second

Call me deluded, but I think it's fairly logical

Many of the Rangers team have much to prove. Just don't really get the gloating. "Only 4 years old" etc.

Was it not to be expected?

10 Sep 2016 20:43:35
Rayman99's a wee bhoy on the wind up guys.

Let him have his moment.

10 Sep 2016 22:03:53
Rafbob fair play mate u only 1 talking sense lol.

10 Sep 2016 18:14:33
So 5 games in and clearly Barton (along with others) cannot walk the walk. The question is, will MW be brave enough to drop him/ them?
I was actually excited to see Barton play, I thought he was going to be a big deal.
Anyhow, it will be interesting to see what MW does for our next game.

10 Sep 2016 18:41:09
And ps. Credit where it's due. Well done to Brenda and his team, they had usover a barrel and played us off the park. Well done.

10 Sep 2016 19:20:40
He plays a back four of Tav, Keirnan, Hill, Wallace. If Wilson isn't able to play.

A midfield, that will undoubtedly include Barton. Windass was a bright spark and will start. Either Forrester, Rossiter, Holt or Halliday. Barton, Forrester, Windass. Holt off the bench.

An attack that'll definitely include Miller. He'll possibly got with the same front three as today. Hopefully Waghorn for Miller though.

10 Sep 2016 20:46:12
Rossiter will be a good player for Rangers. Liverpool had high hopes for him at one stage.

10 Sep 2016 17:31:57
Well I got slated on here a few weeks back for questioning Warburtons tactics (or lack of) this man is not the man to take us forward and I stick by this his knowledge of the game is dreadful at best not spending on a proper defender is the last bit of proof that defence is a joke! As for u ross w u still think we have a solid defence all the Warburton lovers need to take your head out the sand rant over.

10 Sep 2016 18:32:13
Bigblue Ayr

Spot on mate abs it's astonishing the amount of people on here who can't see what's obvious. Ross W has been strangely quiet today and others seem to think your not a supporter if you question the manager. His tactics clearly aren't working and his persistence with certain players is astonishing.

10 Sep 2016 19:00:10
He hasn't got the money to bring in a decent defender hence why he brought in 2 frees what part of that don't u understand his hands are tied. Celtic spend millions on sinclair when we are bringing in free transfers.

10 Sep 2016 19:45:05
Hooly78

What part of spending £1.8m on a striker do you not understand. Clearly money was there to strengthen so your post about having no money is rubbish.

10 Sep 2016 19:58:45
He can't afford any defenders but could spend the best part of 2 million on garner that makes sense! like I said most won't hear a word against Warburton but I've NEVER thot he was the guy.

10 Sep 2016 20:16:44
Can't remember you on here slating him last season. And he spent money on 1 player a striker that we all agreed he needed. Obviously didn't have any more available to spend so your post about having money his nonsense. And by the way better and more talented rangers teams have been destroyed at parkhead than today's team of bargains and free transfers. Mw has his faults but we shouldn't be writing him off just yet.

10 Sep 2016 20:49:39
I think that criticism is harsh! Mw's decision in the midfield was wrong today and failed badly, nikos a player that when on game is a match winner but his lack of fitness astonished me today, hindsight is a great thing but forrester was the 1 to play there today in my opinion, he brings so much to our midfield and along with windass would have gave a lot of energy but I could also c what Mw was trying by having niko in there!

I fully believe warbs is the right man at the right time for us, he has a clear vision.

That mob have a manager who knows Wat he's doing so going forward I think it will make for a good tussle but we need to up the anty big time in all areas.

We need to learn from this and move on! Onwards and upwards bears!

10 Sep 2016 17:18:14
At what point do we as rangers fans start to question mark warburtons tactical naivity . his stubborness to keep playing 4.3.3 is frustrating and his lack of sorting out a defence that stevie wonder could see was bad from last season 2 CB should have been a priority and today he picked the wrong team in my opinion . Mckay should not have started nor krancjar . o, halloran should have started as should halliday and forrester we should have played a 4.5.1 keeping it tight and hit them on the counter attack . wallace needs dropped he's not done enough for me this season and hodson deserves a chance at LB . beating too easily today gave away cheap goals . however we move on and keep rebuilding and hopefully in january the board find the money to buy a CB who can defend.

10 Sep 2016 17:23:19
Bigtrfc

Do you think Warburton is the man to take us forward?

10 Sep 2016 17:29:28
I think he is a good man manager but his stubborness to keep playing 4.3.3 without changing it to suit each game is frustrating . teams are learning to play against us and we don't have a plan b and the defence should have been sorted . jury is still out for me i don't buy this magic hat crap he won the scottish championship . we never kicked a ball after semi final last season he needs to change his tactics when needed.

10 Sep 2016 17:37:09
We played a 4-5-1 the day not 4-3-3 so whys your point?

10 Sep 2016 17:37:24
No not if he refuses to adapt his game plan to change a game.

10 Sep 2016 18:12:00
Spot on. Bigt time for 4,4,2 m. o. h needs a start.

10 Sep 2016 18:13:49
Celtic fan here - I thought McKay was good today, I would have him in our team/ squad.

10 Sep 2016 18:26:36
Warburtons war cry is "we will learn and move on "

Well he should listen to himself because we don't and we haven't.

We can blame and be critical of the players but he signed most of them and continues to pick them.
We have let better players go.

As to the other warcry "In warbs we trust"?

Aye right, good luck with that.

I am a truely disappointed bear that seen this coming even before the season started and unless you are blinkered, then i am sure many of you would agree.

10 Sep 2016 19:09:25
Gosman

Some are very blinkered on here and still can't see what is obvious too many fans. If you question the team your considered a Tim in disguise or not a proper Rangers fan.

10 Sep 2016 21:22:49
McKay is shocking and has been all season. Needs dropped. Niko wasn't as bad as some are making out. Great dig and got in about it. Much sharper than previous games. Distribution wasn't the worst. Progress. Defence is brutal but we knew that. Windass is going to be class. Halliday may be a Ranger but he's not good enough IMO. Tav was best player on park today. Wes done the best he could with what was in front of him. Barton isn't a flair player so don't know what people expect from him. He does the unattractive part of football. Win the ball and move it on. He was ok but nothing special. He'll kick on from today and be better. His ego won't allow anything else. Wallace is in decline. Don't like seeing it because I'm a huge fan of his. Needs a good shake. This is the wake up call we needed. We'll kick on from here. £26.5 million versus £4.6 million. Speaks volumes.

10 Sep 2016 15:54:06
Disgusting behaviour from our fans in the away toilet will only get the club in trouble.

10 Sep 2016 15:58:57
It is a rubbish hole, but what did the fans do?

10 Sep 2016 16:02:57
Completely trashed it wrecked the roof and stuff.

10 Sep 2016 18:56:06
Some mothers do have them.

10 Sep 2016 15:12:48
Barton. Kranjcar and Senderos all let the team down today. 3 experienced players, one send off, one had to be taken off before he was sent off and the other just didn't even turn up. Kiernan was shocking, his distribution was awful. Garner looked decent, won his face share in the air first half and put himself about. Windass was really positive and the only one for me with pass marks. Celtic strolled it, Dembele was terrific. Rogic was linking play well in the first half and Brown never looked troubled by Barton. Better team won. Embarrassmed by that display today.

10 Sep 2016 16:03:40
Wee message for you j1985,never be embarrassed being a glasgow rangers supporter although we were well beaten today, I was one of our fans who forked out 50quid for a ticket today but I'm disappointed with our performance but never embarrassed to be a glasgow rangers supporter! The one thing this result does do is send out a massive message to mr. dave king to where he needs to be to challenge celtic as they are the benchmark to where we need to be, we need to take our defeat, learn and move on, we are the people and don't let anyone forget it, get behind warbs, sir davie and our team!

10 Sep 2016 16:21:46
Where on his post does it say he was embarrassed to be a Rangers fan? He said he was embarrassed by the display today.

10 Sep 2016 16:23:03
Warbs15

Are you in touch with reality mate? Let's learn? It's the same mistakes we continually make in defence and nothing is being done. Your totally delusional mate.

10 Sep 2016 16:26:57
fair assesment j1985 no heart no fight.

10 Sep 2016 16:31:34
wallace was embarrassing worst captain in our history, barrie mckay showed him how to play left back.

10 Sep 2016 16:53:53
No biffo316,I'm a bear who follows my team everywhere through thick and thin how about you, I've given you an accurate assessment of the game today, have I not? We are where we are and need improvement to catch up with them of that there's little doubt, some people at the first sign of trouble should back the club instead of slating everything about the club, through thick and thin my friend, some of our so called fans would do well to remember this!

10 Sep 2016 16:53:53
Agree Cee, young McKay did better when he went to full back than Wallace and played better there than he did up front. As for Wallace he will never be a leader, doesn't have the character to lift the team when they are struggling and isn't the same player going forward in the SPL.

10 Sep 2016 17:05:06
Warburtons tactics are poor he insists on playing out from the goalie everytime it isn't possible sometimes but the players know if they don't they are for it and it got rangers in troubke today? His tactics are quirky and predictable short corners subs on the hour mark not clever just smacks of a kid playing footie manager on playstation? As for putting on forrester for kiernan pathetic call just put his players on the park under more pressure resulting in a thrashing. He signed hill but has no confidence putting him on the park. As for senderos and krankjar sums up why they've been in no mans land for the last 4 years?

10 Sep 2016 17:20:50
Warbs15

Who has slated everything about the club?

10 Sep 2016 17:30:26
Warbs15

An accurate assessment of the game? Then the usual I'm a bear and go everywhere do you? You also accused a fellow supporter of being shamed to be a Rangers fan when that clearly wasn't the case. Warburton has been found out at this level and his decisions today were astonishing today and his persistence with certain players will be his undoing.

10 Sep 2016 17:48:15
I'm not embarrassed to be a Rangers fans mate. I am embarrassed by that performance today. I'm embarrassed that Barton couldn't stamp his authority on a game against our biggest rival after the comments he made in the summer, I'm embarrassed at Kranjcar blowing out his arse within half an hour and lunging into tackles whilst on a booking, I'm embarrassed that Kiernan can't play a pass over 10 yards with any accuracy, I'm embarrassed that an experienced defender like Senderos stupidly handles the ball knowing he's going off and most of all I'm embarrassed at Warburtons naivety.

And in light of the damage at Parkhead I'm embarrassed by a minority of fans who have shamed the club. yet again. Total disregard for others property.

Poor day all round.

10 Sep 2016 18:35:35
J1985

Yes mate you clearly stated you were embarrassed by the display and not at being a Rangers fan. It's a pity that the person accusing of that hasn't been big enough to post offering you an apology.

10 Sep 2016 18:59:42
Wallace worst captain in history don't talk nonsense mate man stood by us through thick and thin fair enough he wasn't at his best today but how you can come away with a comment like that is unbelievable you need to have a word with yourself mate said on here senderos is a joke and proved right the day waste of a jersey.

10 Sep 2016 15:03:55
Can't understand why we played kranjcar Burton kiernan today compaired what we had on bench.

10 Sep 2016 16:55:21
As far as Kiernan was concerned the only alternative was to play Hill. Kiernan is bad but Hill is a million times worse which shows how bad he is.

10 Sep 2016 14:49:00
Maybe the straight after the game isn't the best time to reflect on what has just happened, all I can say is outplayed, outclassed, outfought. we are just not good enough. must do better. i know it's hard but we must move on and not dwell on it. very hard indeed but let's face facts, we are going for 2nd place, that's a must!

10 Sep 2016 14:58:17
Thought joey the gub Barton played well and niko looks fit eh lads.

10 Sep 2016 15:00:51
And doing better is does not mean doing Plan A better!

I feel we will go on a bad run of form now.

Barton is a gobsh*** with limited ab ability. Well now i'd the time to stand or fall. If he falls I will be waiting to see if Warbs has the balls to drop him.

10 Sep 2016 15:05:49
Hearts, st j and aberdeen got a better result than us.2nd is gona be difficult.

10 Sep 2016 15:25:30
I think this season was always going to be very difficult for Rangers. If they did get second spot then that would be some effort considering.
I don't think the manager set the team up well today. At this moment he should know that he could not go head to head with Celtic. In my opinion he should have played more defensive, parked the bus, maybe keep Rangers in the game for as long as possible and frustate Celtic. Anyway, best to forget today as just one game and move on and as the OP says, not dwell on it.

10 Sep 2016 15:07:08
I think you're right fofarger, second was always the best we could hope for. No reason for knee jerk reactions.

10 Sep 2016 16:33:10
was the referee against you as predicted molly? think a lot of your fans need to apologise to poor wullie.

10 Sep 2016 16:36:13
I thot he was right to go head to head but not with the players he used. ano rossiter and holt are injured but they have got to b in ther with windass. they have pace and buzz abt more. i knew we wer done for when niko and barton wer in ther. they wer the better team but with they 2 in the engine room anybody in the league would have beat us today.

10 Sep 2016 16:58:55
Should keankjar left the park asa sub?

10 Sep 2016 18:01:43
Kranjcar shouldn't have been on the pitch today, he doesn't work hard off the ball.

10 Sep 2016 14:39:45
Stating the obvious I know but defence is a shambles! My question is though: Are King etc doing the right thing by spending within our means or do you reckon there are funds but the powers that be thought the Magic Hat could do it on the cheap.?

10 Sep 2016 14:48:05
Magic hat? Aye right.

10 Sep 2016 14:52:19
I think until the Ashley situation is sorted we're definitely living within our means! The power of merchandising betrays what we all think! He is lifting ( still lifting money from merchandising ) when we are all against him! Ashley may be around for a while that actually frightens me as our board are trying everything to get out this deal but this dude has it watertight!

10 Sep 2016 14:54:31
Nuttin magic about that performance.

10 Sep 2016 14:55:00
Well done Celtic, the better team by far won today, MW needs to get that team sorted asap btw, we where all over the place today, when barton got the ball at his feet today he was trippin over the ball, Windass easily best player for us tday, if us Gers fans can see the problems in our team surely the manager now will open his eyes after today and realise he needs to sort something out.

10 Sep 2016 14:59:31
Blackwoodbear

I'm not so sure the agreement is watertight and hopefully this will be the case. There is surely no way the agreement has been signed to the benefit of the club.

10 Sep 2016 14:02:41
Gers could have went for dembele but mw said no let's go for dodo. gers could have went for toure but mw said no an went for hill. hill waste of a wage an compared to dembele so far dodos nothing. windass looks a player but any1 can see our system does not work. there's times to play possession football and we seem to play it every time u shouldnt.

10 Sep 2016 14:45:12
the players failed individually everyone of them. I just hope both sets of fans are an the best behavior celtic played well we didn't. onto the next one and let's hope we can kick start this season.

10 Sep 2016 15:57:17
It's time the manager answered a few questions this open style of play is ok if you have the players to play it but sadly ours are not good enough were too open to go to Parkhead and think we were good enough to go head to head with Celtic was stupid we were always on a hiding to play Barton and Kranjcar in the same midfield doesn't work the defence is a shambles we keep pushing our fullbacks forward leaving acres of room for Celtic to exploit and that is what they did push up against us and wait for the mistakes this is the poorest Rangers team I've seen in years and as I've said the manager has to change plan A or it will be a long hard season.

10 Sep 2016 14:32:36
A think warbs tactics were wrong today we played far to defensive all game apart from a wee spell in second half no urgency to get farward eathier was a hard game for players involved kiernan needs to work on distrabution from the back if that's how warbs wants to play all in all better team won on the day need to pick themselfs up and get on with it now plenty more games to go.

10 Sep 2016 14:41:34
Kiernan needs to go never mind work on distribution.

10 Sep 2016 14:16:36
Said it before 433 won't work in this league.

10 Sep 2016 14:04:34
Terrible result.

Hopefully this opens some eyes. We need to be realistic about our target in the league.

I am still hopeful of second place but we need to find a more suitable formation, we haven't set up well in the matches we have played this season.

Celtic played us off the park today and Warburton will have a nightmare between now and Aberdeen.

10 Sep 2016 14:37:28
The defence wasn't good enough last year yet all the manager has done is bring in a 37 year old and a guy who has hardly played much in the last year. Sticking with the hapless Kiernan it's no wonder we were routed today. Would be interested to hear from RossW as he seems to think the defence was ok and Kiernan was the answer.

10 Sep 2016 14:41:32
Other than the goal we were never in the game. Outplayed in midfield and defence is a joke. What was Senderos about? Joke. We've missed buying quality to compete with even Aberdeen and Hearts. So stuck with this squad of very average players. What will King do now. promises, promises.

10 Sep 2016 13:47:10
I still cannot believe that warburton has not addressed our defensive problems. It was clear to everyone from last season that the main two signing we needed was a big muscular no nonsense central defender. And a big muscled no nonsense centre forward. And we still do not have them. Outmuscled today yet again. Surely to god there must be some young scots players out there that can do a job better than this lot.

10 Sep 2016 13:59:44
Yeah but some on here still think the defence is ok.

10 Sep 2016 14:48:48
Who thinks that? Wallace, Tav, Kiernan and don't even mention Senderos. A liabilty. Sent off in his first full game. Stupid and left us more exposed. King and Co need to step up to the plate and MW and Weir losing it didn't help. Bad day at the office.

10 Sep 2016 13:45:51
So there is our answer to how far we have come. Men against boys today. I do not think we matched them in any area of the park. Man for man they were streets ahead of us. Barton and yer Krancjer are so way off the pace of the game up here it is untrue. If they can't turn it on for a game of this magnitude, then I'm sorry, they just don't have what it takes I'm afraid. Best midfielder in Scotland, aye right, not even the best midfielder at Rangers, and they are not hard to beat!
Windass looked like there could be a player in there but needs a bit more time to settle by the looks of it. If King want us to compete there needs to be serious investment in the squad to do that.
A lot of our players looked just like where we got them from, the lower leagues, used to clugging it about and mixing it up but with very little guile or finesse.
We are going to have to get our fingers out and gel or knit or play better or whatever you want to call it.
Celtic knew we were back and quite rightly have just upped the ante, we now need to respond.
This is just my honest opinion guys and I am more than happy to take criticism for it.

10 sep 2016 14:09:02
barton for me is a huge disappointment, i was truly looking forward to watching him. he simply should be dropped now. in my opinion we are missing jolt, the sooner he comes back in the better. as for the defence, sandaros ob todays performance is not the answer, oh and why does warburton insist playing kiernon?

10 Sep 2016 14:27:01
Totally agree mate we look a different side this season and it's not because it's a harder leave and better opposition I mean in general no link up play nobody making runs not playing as a unit
Krancjar and Barton can go back to where they came from absolute rubbish here for a wage nothing more well off the pace senderos WHO? What a thrashing we got and manager like you say has not addressed the main problem areas why is that? Very worrying indeed
Where is this side going backwards I would say we're in trouble big time if this keeps up
Players did not have a clue and no direction tactics if there were any were shockingly bad
Kiernen
Krancjar
Barton
Hill
Senderos
Get rid asap.

10 Sep 2016 14:31:49
Pie and bovril, no criticism from me. As you say we were completely outclassed and the final score didn't flatter them. Your comments about the players well justified. Kranjcar has been a class player in the past but now just seems done. Barton surprises me more given he played really well last season by all accounts but some players can decline very suddenly and maybe he too is done. The question is where we go from here and what is realistic in terms of the players we have particularly in defence. I was hopeful of at least 2nd this year but maybe going for a solid top six finish is far more like it in terms of what we aim for. Then again maybe just after a absolute thumping isn't the time to start talking about all that as somebody else said on here a few minutes ago.

10 Sep 2016 13:28:05
So in todays show whos a waste of a jersey. in my eyes anyway.
Kiernan
Barton
Krancaer
Mackay
Garner.
Half our team on todays showing don't deserve to play for gers.

10 Sep 2016 13:53:41
Agree with most of that however can't really blame Garner he got next to no service. Shambles from start to finish. Awful defending yet again and Warburton continues to watch this happen and has no answers.

10 Sep 2016 14:00:41
McKay at least tried his heart out. Garner never had service but never stopped trying. Tav tried and widnass showed what he can do when running at defenders. No matter what MW picks now in mid and attack it will always be the shocking centre halves that are a calamity. If any fan was as poor at there job they would be sacked. Kiernan is an embarrassment to call himself a footballer. No positional sense can't pass can't head ball and slow.

10 Sep 2016 14:18:38
Rob Keirnan should never play for aRangers ever again. Responsible for 3 of their goals.

Kranjar is s luxury we can't afford

Gutted n Humiliated, but most of all angry because we knew our defence was suspect and didn't buy anyone to strengthen it

Can't criticise Garner., no service to him

On a positive note thought Windass showed promise

RTID🇬🇧🎩⚽️.

10 Sep 2016 14:28:50
really so what about wallace (worst rangers captain in our history), miller (can't even control the ball), senderos fs. yet you slate garner who was in his first start. we got beat time to get the heed down and let's start our season!

10 Sep 2016 14:06:41
Look at miller biffo. he came back to get into the game. garner did nothing bar head a ball in from a yard. i personally think something needs to change. sir walter?

10 Sep 2016 14:49:17
McKay tried is heart out. when? Reckon he played about 3 decent passes all game. He is easily shrugged off the ball, never takes his man on and hides when going gets tough. Should have been nowhere near starting line up given his performances this season. On saying that he wasn't the worst today. don't start me on Kiernan.

10 Sep 2016 18:36:21
Got to admit mckay goes into his shell when the nitty gritty starts. garner for me was more interested in trying to get players bkd. barton and niko so slow. i won't even give an opinion on the cbs.

10 Sep 2016 13:22:00
Kiernan has fault in all 3 goals. People can say support the players all day long but the facts are that Kiernan is possibly the worst CB in Rangers history.

Heading an imaginary ball and leaving Demeble for 1st.

Runs out of position and hospital pass for 2nd.

Ball watches and runs out of position for 3rd.

He is HOPELESS!

10 Sep 2016 13:25:25
Have said this all along yet some people still defend him truly woeful player and no wonder so many clubs got rid of him.

10 Sep 2016 13:31:50
@ I Dawson totally agree he is Rangers effe ambrose.

10 Sep 2016 13:47:40
That's it fellow supporters. get all the negative stuff out!

It's a big step up from the last few years, lots of new players and we don't have the millions to spend like Murray and co did in the past.

Top 3 is realistic so stop moaning and get behind the team. It's going to be a long season but MW will get there.

10 Sep 2016 14:02:06
Are you being serious, we never just got beaten out ther, we got totally demolished! Fair enough if we went dwn fighting but half our players were pathetic with no fight in them!

10 Sep 2016 14:07:15
Senderos at fault for 3rd goal not Kiernan but it's a mute point, they are both brutal. Senderos was a disgrace for 2nd and 3rd goal and looked delighted to be put out his misery. Kranjar was sighed for games like this - even bigger disgrace as not fit. Can't cope with watching McKay and waggy on the 'wrong' wing. Waggy either plays up front or doesn't play at all for me. Barton as talk and graft but nothing else.

Thought Tav and Windass got pass marks and Foderingham zero protection.

Magic hat better be careful or this lot (many of them his signings) will get him sacked by xmas.

10 Sep 2016 14:27:22
We will get better.

10 Sep 2016 14:56:31
MW will walk before then. What support has he been given, where is the war chest so publicly announced in March 2015. No where to be seen and the gulf showed today. The East enders will win this league and if we play like today we might just get top 6. My opinion and there to be shot down.

10 Sep 2016 13:10:40
On a positive slant . Windass and McKay been impressive .

10 Sep 2016 14:20:19
mckay drifted in and out. Needs to offer more and stop being a one trick pony. Once the full back has worked him out he's lost. Windass was our best player by a mile.

10 Sep 2016 14:12:55
If mw perceivers with Kieran then he's a joke, should never play for Gers again.

10 Sep 2016 11:17:38
Hi from Florida fellow bears! I need your help! I'm on holiday and no where near me is showing the game and it'll be 7am k. o over here. Can any of you send a link to watch it online please?

Cheers guys!

10 Sep 2016 11:26:27
Whereabouts in Florida are you?

10 Sep 2016 11:26:46
Google was version 1.8 u will get it there on sky sports.

10 Sep 2016 11:41:55
Vip league mate.

10 Sep 2016 11:45:38
Look up the fox and hound bud rangers pub in florida.

10 Sep 2016 11:05:13
Is Rossiter injured?

10 Sep 2016 11:20:29
According to some of the papers yes.

10 Sep 2016 10:43:32
Would be delighted with a draw today giving that we have players coming back from injury and others who are debuting or just starting to bed on mon the gers.

10 Sep 2016 09:33:39
Old Firm day has arrived 😃 C'mon Rangers 👏🏼🔴⚪️🔵
Reasons we can win:
(1) It is well documented how Poor our defence is with us conceding 4 in 9 games 🤔
Celtic have conceded 7 in their last 4 so are not particularly great there either.
(2) New Goalkeeper, De Vries is expected to start only his 2nd game for the club against a side who have attacking options such as Miller, Garner, Waghorn, McKay, Forrester, O'Halloran, Windass, Tavernier, Krancjar et al to deal with.
(3) Midfield, Celtic have great quality in the wide areas with Sinclair, Forest and Roberts but Biton, Brown and in form Rogic were nowhere near the ball last time sides met with Holt now just returning from injury and Barton likely to replace D Ball in the anchor role Rangers may well dominate in that area again as they did a few months ago.
(4) Grifiths factor, if he's fully fit he's a guaranteed goal for Celtic, if he's not its a massive boost for Rangers and blow for Celtic. Even if he starts his sharpness which makes him the threat he is may be subdued.
(5) The last time we played Forrester and Wagorn were injured and O'Halloran and B King Cup tied so despite totally dominating possession we couldn't create as many chances as we should. Now we have all these guys available and a few other tasty attacking options with Forrester and Waghorn our 2 top scorers both able to play we are bound to score at least 2.
(6) Experience of winning an old firm giving our manager and squad the belief we can do it again, make no mistake Sellik Park will be a different environment for some but the opposition squad in particular is much the same.
(7) Predictably of their line up against our squad who even I've no idea will start.
(8) 2 week break, we had 3 weeks off before Hibs game and we had no sharpness and our passing in particular was terrible due to the mini break. We countered that this time with a comprehensive morale boosting 7-0 friendly win while they rested.
(9) Kenny Miller! He is sitting on 99 Rangers goals and has scored more at Parkhead for Rangers as he did as a Sellik player, it's inevitable he scores his 100th Gers goal and 10th Old Firm goal today.
(10) The pressure is all on them with an apparent comprehensive victory by a margin of at least 4 goals predicted by many fans and pundits, just like the last time.
Roll on 12 Bells 👏🏼🔴⚪️🔵.

10 Sep 2016 09:46:23
The glasgow ranger.

I have a spare hanky for you, used my first one wiping my tears of laughter after reading your drivel, you might need the hanky to wipe away your tears of grief and unhappiness at around 13.50 hours.

10 Sep 2016 10:15:18
Did waghorn and co play v Hamilton and hibs?

10 Sep 2016 10:25:20
do you post on your own forum? Looked you up there only two posts yet your here every day, here's a piece of advice for you, support your own forum, if we win today you'll go missing for months again and if we don't I'll need to listen to you.

10 Sep 2016 10:32:50
Mon the RANGERS!

10 Sep 2016 10:54:13
Griffiths guaranteed a goal? Didn't come close last time!

10 Sep 2016 06:41:20
I couldn't sleep just can't wait for today so hope they play as good as they did last time we meet and I would be happy with a draw today. Just get into them we are the people.

10 Sep 2016 08:22:36
Don't let the media or their fans kid you they are nothing special and if Grifiths is injured I think we are favourites to win.
We are unbeaten this Season, in the only 2 games we never won we finished much the stronger and should have won. Our defence as bad as it is has only conceded 4 goals, their defence has conceded 7 in the past 4 games.
They have an inexperienced GK playing only his 2nd game, Toure will be shown up for how slow and the lack of mobility he has. Brown can't pass a ball and if Dembele is starting they are Fkd up top.
Sinclair is over rated, he had 1 touch V Hearts, was superb against Motherwell who lost by 2 extra goals by Ronnies team and then he done very little against Hapoel twice who had their main defender and striker injured and are of a similar standard to us. A stonewall pen not given at Sellik Park followed by a Brown goal on the break papered over the cracks, a missed penalty saved the embarrassment of a 3 goal advantage being blown. The round before it was a miracle they drew 1-1 away when opposition outplayed them, the home leg was won only due to 2 penalties, they lost to Red fkn Imps, were cruising 3-0 against St Johnstone before crumbling again conceding 2 before stoppage time goal put gloss on shoreline, similar against the Sheep 2 weeks ago who more than matched them.
The 2 week break doesn't help sharpness or momentum we seen it ourselves after 3 week break prior to Hibs when we couldn't pass the ball.
Their lineup is predictable ours isn't, our manager KNOWS he can beat them, our players know this, pressures on them, we can keep the ball and frustrate when we need to and with McKay, Miller, Forrester, Waghorn, Windass, O'Halloran, Krancjar, Garner et al we have enough Firepower to score plenty!
Bring it on.
🔴⚪️🔵👏🏼.

10 Sep 2016 09:11:17
Glasgow ranger: hahaha.

10 Sep 2016 09:29:35
Theglasgowranger. Hope you got your humble pie ready, looks like you need it later today.

10 Sep 2016 09:47:34
Win, lose or draw today, they are certainly nothing special.

10 Sep 2016 00:48:30
Got to have a bit of pace tomorrow. Windass in midfield or ohaaloran up front. Thoughts?

10 Sep 2016 01:27:44
I would play with them both. I would not start Waghorn but rather have MO with his pace on that side to get at Tierney. McKay with his pace down the other wing. Barton sitting and Forester and Windass in the midfield. Miller up top and the defence pick itself.

10 Sep 2016 01:32:14
O'Halloran, thought he'd be great when he joined, but I'd put money on him not starting tomorrow.

Windass, love to see him start, expect either him or Waghorn to get the nod.

If Windass starts, Forrester plays right flank. If Waghorn starts Forrester plays in the midfield three.

Rather start Waghorn. With any scenario, Forrester has to play.

10 Sep 2016 05:38:09
I agree think both windass and MOH should start would go with Garner through the middle and King kenny wide left would also like to see big Niko start in a 3 man midfield with Barton and windass praying senderos starts too.

10 Sep 2016 08:24:44
Trueblue i'd definitely go with windass but i'd b tempted to leave moh on the bench until the last 25 when his pace can really hurt them when the games abit stretched.