Rangers Banter Archive March 11 2012

 

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11 Mar 2012 23:38:13
We are showing signs of recovery but need to be cautious. In past 4 years we have reduced our debt - We paid for our years of overspending and if C Shyte had paid what he was supposed to for the club (£1 + £18m to Bank +£6m into transfer kitty = £24m) which is a fair price with the tax case case to be resolved then we would not be in this situation - if he had run the business properly paying its way in last 9 months.
£24 M is that not around what David Murray paid for the club at a time our players were basically training on public parks ? So we have Murray taking a big hit and thinking that the Money he was loosing personally was going into the club as a way of paying for his spending follies - took responsibility for his actions. I would hate to think he had any involvement or party to any of the wee shyte weasals plans to bust us !!. The big tax case is another issue and until that is settled lets not point any fingers We are the people, We are off the canvas WE CAN survive and even win the Big Tax case - who gave Harry a hope HMRC are not new to making huge mistake and costing us taxpayers muillions in wasted legal fees.. The Scottish league throwing us out ? could they afford to do that ? reduced sponsorship, reduced tv money, reduced gate money, same with the scottish cup - No Rangers = No Sponsor & No TV money - and before Timothy shouts I would say the same if it was the other way round and it was his club in the Shyte.
I know some wont like this but should we not be asking why Strathclyde police are not asking for the brox to be gers only at the end of the month ? Think the circumstances dictate that it should at least be considered, the last thing anyone in scottish football needs is for problems at this game and hey even it up and dont let us go to the next one at porkhead have your party there timothy ! Also what about the additional costs to police an old firm game could this not save a few pounds or are the police trying to get as much overtime in as they can just in case they are missing out next year - hope they are paying their taxs on the overtime payments !
Anyway Big tax case to one side £40 M to buy the club is about right = what SDM paid 20 years ago + increased assets + inflation. As for ticketus then hell mend them they must have known a dodgy deal was getting done ! if they own season tickets sales for 3 years fine - lets just not buy season books and everyone fill Ibrox match to match surely we could suffer sitting in a different seat each week ! If the buyer is big enough he could cope with any cash-flow issues not having season book cash in the summer would cause - not worried about shafting ticketus cause they must have suspected dodgy dealings.
One final rant cause this has gone on long enough - If Johnstone is successful in suing SDM for not disclosing stuff in the past then how about an undertaking Mr Johnstone if you are reading this to donate the £20m you are seeking to the club, after all without the mess you would not be suing so its not exactly money you would have had !

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Yes if if if it is not only the tax man you owe and you can bet your last pound you will try and screw ticketus because thats what you do you, dont even pay spl clubs even though you sold there tickets and kept the money thats the rangers way, as long as we win we dont care b

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You start saying in the last 4 years we have reduced our debt,the only way your numbers add up is because you put money in the bank but that money belonged to someone else,you paid no one so your bank balance looked good if you would have paid the money owed you would not be in this mess b

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It's King thats suing Murray not Johnston

quabba

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So you want the asbestos arena all gers? why? do you think Celtic fans will start trouble or can you not trust your own lot? Were gonna party our ass off,the result is secondary! The broomloan will be shaking like a big lime jelly. see you friday,If you still exist? A Tim.

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11 Mar 2012 22:05:22
On April 1,MP's will pass a new law decreeing liquidated companies will be pursued for all debts outstanding at the time of liquidation.This will apply to owners and directors,is this why D&P are pushing so hard for a new buyer?

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Yes thats right but they dont want to know b

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MPs voting on an issue does not make it law instantly, the HoL also votes on it.

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How do you think they will lose the vote after all the offshore accounts carry on it will pas so you better get out of admin fast b

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Hence the real reason why the big tax case wont be announced till April ...

there will be no pence in the pound deal for any outstanding tax debt

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The Hol are not required to vote on a lot of bills.i think if all parties agree they are not needed

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That's why the tax result won't be made til April , what utter garbage it's not the government that is deciding the outcome of the case, if anything I wouldn't be surprised if we got the verdict sooner than later let's be honest it's either guilty or not,don't think we can rely on the " not proven " on this one ;-)

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11 Mar 2012 21:48:55
Does anybody agree with me that someone wealthy should buy into the spl as a whole? can that be done ed? ( LOYAL BEAR ) {Ed001's Note - depends on what way you mean. Sponsorship etc could be done.}

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Eh naw ,your as daft as bluebear, wheres boo boo bear, oh aye he's in monaco... nighty night all you bears.......Stevie

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Aye cheers for throwin it back in ma face stevie, your one bitter bitter man or woman, least i want to look at the positive side of it! the only way we can compete with euro‘s elite is by makin our league better and stronger but sadly people like you don't to, your only ever goin to see celtic and rangers struggle in europe, oh yes we will be back in europe, so don't even go there mate, i. am the type of RANGERS fan that wants to unite not fite ( to rhyme lol) scottish football doesn't need bitter fans like you that will give celtic a bad name, also the same goes for our own aswell, in a nutshell, i would prefer somebody buy in yes ed somethin like that to make every team stronger in the league then maybe end up the size of the epl, which means more tv money for other teams and in which the tv money will be more thsn we get at the present moment. ( LOYAL BEAR)

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Loyal bear celtic are owned by a billionare

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11 Mar 2012 21:02:44
I like how Paul Clark handles himself. He is the calibre of person who should be representing Rangers. I hope that there are a few of his type on any new board of directors at Ibrox. Maybe the man himself at a non-executive level ?

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Yes he is wonderful if he tells you next week you are going into liquidation your board is best place for him (dart board) b

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D&P have handled tehmselves well, I think they are doing their best to get us out of this mess, they are certainly not working for Whyte thats for sure.

J

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11 Mar 2012 20:34:27
The key word in my post was "hope". I would imagine that any potential investor would be made fully aware of how much it will cost to take over Rangers and clear any debts (EBT aside). We can onlyhope that some one or a consortium has the funds to make it happen.

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11 Mar 2012 20:22:01
Could my fellow bears not understand that being liquidated and a newco rangers is only way forward. HMRC have been told by parliament that no more deals were to be done it must be the full amount. We tried to offer HMRC £12 mill for the tax bill do why would they now take 10p to the pound? That's less than the £12mill. Why would HMRC do a deal with us (when they have been told it cant) if whyte is not there and it's all SDM fault? If we liquidate we will start afresh with no debt an no money owed to anyone and will the spl within 3 years again. Whyte might not be as dumb as we all think!!

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Liquidation no longer on the agenda. A new owner(probably american) is above to make their move. A multi-billionaire. Enjoy your tainted title (maybe even treble) bhoys cos it'll be your last for a long time. Rangers have recovered. Watch the news this week

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Ha,ha.dream on.

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You woke up yet the tainted titles have still to be looked into,that is the six you won with two contract on players as for the billionair that was mr disney,its ok it was all a dream b

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Big rich man with deep pockets comes to save us! , we don't care we have cheated our way to titles and cups through overspending for years, we don't care we have embarrassed ourselves by crying on national tv about the mess we're in, we dont care we've posted on this site the begging letters"please please if theres someone out there who can help us please help", hope you realise how pathetic you are..... make mine a treble....Stevie

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Couple of things....title won't be tainted, only Rangers reputation has been tainted this year!...liquidation will be on the agenda for any new buyer...Rangers have not recovered...
Amazingly though 7 people seem to agree with you.

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11 Mar 2012 20:10:12
weve not even been proven guilty yet - noone in the public domain knows the ins and outs were all only taking educated guesses - or in your case petty cheap shots

ryanrfc

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11 Mar 2012 19:40:37
ok Dhims it looks more than likely that you lot will go on and win the treble but just picture it in a couple of years time when you are talking to non celtic supporters and you say we won the treble season 11/12 they will reply oh yes thats the season Rangers went into administration and were preoccupied fighting for their very survival. even when you think we are down and out we still manage to spoil your fun. lets be honest season 11/12 will not be known as the season celtic won the treble(except inside the wall of septic park) it will be know as the season one of the biggest clubs in Europe nearly folded.

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Deflect and deny.Biggest clubs? surely poorest clubs?See you on the 25th for our party. A Tim.

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Preoccupied fighting for survival after going out of both cups and after throwing away a huge lead in the lead.

Keep looking for the excuses for your club's epic failure on the pitch this season.

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Its funny how you brag or well its realy sad actually, how you would rather celebrate your club folding then give credit for a club doign well and winning the proper way, with heart. For you and everyone else knows that if Celtic win the treble (but thanks for giving it to us now) it would be known,heard and discussed around the world. The treble is a huge achievement, and dont worry in a couple years Celtic will be adding to its rich history with more awards/europe and rankers will always be a second thought. Then people will compare how a proper club ends up on top and how another is a polar opposite, all your tainted titles will be put into light and poeple will always say you might have cheated, for your history will not have credit. time to wake up and change!

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Your history will from now on be questioned if the two contracts issue is not seen to be properly investigated and knowing the SFA it wont be buy the rest of know better, so there will always be doubt b

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Will be known as the year:

Rangers had a 10 point lead 
Aluko had to pay his way into rangers
Rangers say they won't sell jelavic for less than 10m
Jelavic sold for 5.5m in jan
Celtic take a 10 point lead
Rangers are out of Europe & 2 cups by the end of September 
Rangers owner doesnt pay PAYE
Rangers hit admin
Rangers players told to take Wage cuts

Celtic win the league & in the final of 1 cup & semi of another 

Tell me this, if & when a new owner comes in he has 1) new contracts to sort out with everyone taking wage cuts 2) the tax case 3) needs to sign players because rangers have half a team as it is & 4 or 5 players are over 30 & won't have very long to go.

Celtic on the back hand have the average age of 23/24 in the squad & all more or less have good sell on values 

Where do rangers go from here ? There are a big club but they need ALOT of money put into them.....

Anyway 21 points clear, in one final & in another semi final all in the same season  Celtic lose all of there defenders bar Mathews & lose kayal & brown on top of that too, rangers lose Steven Naismith & they crumble 

I'm sure in years to come that's how the season 11/12 ended ;)

Good luck as a I don't see how rangers can get out of this mess other than going down the tubes, hope it's not but looks likely

Lenny

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This title will go down as one of the greatest achievements in Scottish football history after all when was the last time a 15pt advantage was over turned in the spl... Answers on a postcard........Stevie

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Keep telling yourselves that timmys! haha

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"Rangers are out of Europe & 2 cups by the end of September"

What two cups Lenny. yes out of Europe and the league cup but what else?

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Re two cups;CL and europa?

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Help please save us the two contract issue is going to taint your history forever whether is is true or not question did they cheat did they not it is not just one title its six b

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11 Mar 2012 18:49:05
This week is going to be a big week for our club. The Administrators seem confident the there are people or a consortium of people willing to take over. I really hope they are right. Although I feel there confidence may be a ploy in order to make the few people who are interested show their hand sooner rather than latter.
At the moment we just have to take each day as it comes. The last couple of days we have seen light at the end of the tunnell, with talk of potential new owners rather than talk of liquidation. But talk is cheep and we are still in a very big hole. I only hope that by this time next week we have identified who is likely to be our new owners and there is a solid offer on the table.

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Its all fair & well people showing a intrest,but with no money to pay bills i cant see ant investor parting with a penny when they look threw the actual books,we all no of the unpaid debts bur nothing of net debt,nobody in rite mind would touch it till liquadation,all this is doing is getting everyobe bids then they pull out luquadation then maybe a investor,

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16th march is the crucial date.Thats when the wages are paid and with no income since the hearts game thats a shed load of money.D&P have to be up beat to encourage buyers,but i cant see any investor moving without liquidation in mind.In a bizarre twist whyte might hold the key as he could tie things up in courts for years

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11 Mar 2012 18:23:43
Posted over last few days pritchard own rangers assets now recoverable by merchant capitail,as said last nite rangers wouldent have claim after reserching more & querries put by fellow posters in scottish law it would be illegal,companys r england registerd to cant be tryed by scottish law,another was cant buy owed assets,nobody is buying assets but recovering differant thing,the 6 million will go to clients,& assets to merchant,please dont think iam trying to mock,but just ask y we no assets,pritchard have assets n 6 millon going to merchant capitail,and remember craig whyte aint got 6 million,assets given to pritchard given to merchant n for rangers to get it back would join pritchard creditors,leaving whyte legally owner of ibrox,etc,threw merchant,all i ask is you take it serious,or atleast tell me another senior european club that dont know who owns it assets,& remember it was confirmed that assets were in a differant business,

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What country are the Immovable assets located in ??
No country can lay claim to Immovable assets in another country.
(see SARS court judgement against Dave king)
You can not sell assets without owners permission (season tickets) Why do you think That none of the communications by Ticketus to DP have been through their lawyers(fact)

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So what's your point mr above poster? basically? Since craig shyte is NOT the owner ( the club is the administrators btw) ticketetus have no option but to listen to D&P? ed can you clear me up mate, cheers.

Mr uniBOND {Ed001's Note - Whyte is still the owner.}

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11 Mar 2012 18:09:20
not a rumour but a question, wat would all u fellow bears rather, paul murray and his blue nights or someone from a different country with bags of money and business minded

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Some1 else

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11 Mar 2012 16:20:46
Philip Frederick Anschutz (pronounced ANN-shoots[needs IPA], born December 28, 1939 in Russell, Kansas) is an American entrepreneur. Anschutz bought out his father's drilling company in 1961 and earned large returns in Wyoming. He has invested in stocks, real estate and railroads. He then began investing in entertainment companies, co-founding Major League Soccer as well as multiple teams, including the Los Angeles Galaxy, Chicago Fire, Houston Dynamo, San Jose Earthquakes, New York / New Jersey Metro Stars and the Kansas City Wizards. Anschutz owns stakes in the Los Angeles Lakers, Los Angeles Kings, and venues including the Staples Center, O2 Arena, and the Home Depot Center. Anschutz also invests in family films such as The Chronicles of Narnia. Forbes ranks him the 34th richest person in the U.S. with an estimated net worth of $7 billion as of October 2010.[1]

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I take it he is owner of AEG

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If Carlsberg did new owners.... CheltBlue

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Why would anyone of his ilk want to buy us? We play in a backwater league for a start. I can t believe that someone would invest in a club like Rangers- other than sentimental reasons. Now if we were playing in EPL......................

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Why would any1 buy psg ???

TB

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They're in a better league with a better chance of doing well in Europe. You don't know much about football, do you, TB?

Pierre

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Because AEG also run the biggest concerts in the world. Scotland has no premiere concert arena but has a 5 star stadium with security second to none a state of the art brand new sound system and recently updated catering outlets has planing permission in place (recently checked much to our surprise)and would cost considerably less than the average $1 Billion they spend on their stadiums has excellent accessibility to an International Airport /Railway/ motorway AYE THEY WOULD BE MAD TO BUY IT!! should just spend a Billion and build in middle of nowhere

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Pierre i know more than u the french league is a disgrace the spl is pash poor but french league is brutal

TB

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Remember you need your asbestos problem solved in your 5 star arena

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Lol at TB thinking the SPL is better than the French league. What a joke he is.

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11 Mar 2012 16:01:19
cont ,, the players went homen emptied the accounts thus the trust was no longer a trust meanin it was then taxable . rangers used them in good faith which is why they shouldnt be liable thats why its taken so long cos nobody really knows, several top english football clubs n rugby clubs also facing this if hmrc wins

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A message to all the deluded watp mob,HMRC will take 10p in the £??billionaire takeovers?..this friday will open even the dumbest bears eyes,yous are still in the critical stage,with the life support about to be unplugged soon,hmrc will demand full payement for definite...liquidation is only way out& hmrc will hound any newco for there money& strip any asset that will remain ,players be off in summer,ibrox sold murray park sold,disagree all yous like,but the truth will hurt,denial is your first stage,hurt,anger will follow follow..

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Dont think you understand the meaning of the word truth mark.

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"hmrc will hound any newco for there money"

They cannot get old debts from a newco, and I think you will find that hmrc will do a deal rather than put a coy out of business.

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Hmrc will want full amount for definate ???


so you are hrmc ??

u know nothing have u even got a job ??


TB

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If you know anything about HMRC since the backlash from the Vodafone and Goldman Sachs deals, you'll know that such deals will not happen again, TB, so it looks like it's you that doesn't know much (including punctuation usage) ;)

Hector

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LMAO,,Its not a spelling competion,saying that mabe only competiton ally might be still in...also you will find,come april fools day,hmrc have implemented a new law to get owed dues from companies that think,hey lets go into liquidation& start a fresh with clean slate!!!rip rfc 2012..giruy!

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Hector ill believe when it comes out hrmc mouth not a nobody like u


and to the guy above hrmc CANT hound a newco

TB

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TB, it doesn't need to come out of HMRC's mouth (can it have a mouth, tube?). The government has pretty much stated what I told you above, and what loads of others are posting here: a deal won't be done so stop deluding yourself before bedtime.

Hector

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They could hound a newco if it had a similar name to the old one so that would be no more Rangers in more ways than one.

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The above poster, your WRONG son, typical! Think before you type, the “NEWCO“ won't be touched my little friend different company all together! but a “PHOENIX“ club could possibly, am i right ed? steeeeve {Ed001's Note - a newco will be a new entity, it won't be able to have a connection with the previous club, as far as I am aware there would be no grounds for previous creditors to chase them.}

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11 Mar 2012 16:00:29
Rusty the breaking news tim!!iv got a meeting with d&p later this week regarding buying rangers!iv had constructive meetings over the past 2weeks which have been good.I'm willing to put £20 of my own money in with the backing of my brother who will match it and I'm asking the fans to save up 3months giro money which should clear our debt and pay off the tax bill in full..well you's believe every other bit of Craig whyte so why not believe this to!!this is how stupid things are at rangers and you's are buying into it! If carlsberg done stupid fans you's would probably be the best!!!!!hail hail rusty the tim!!!the treble is coming home

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Is the worlds most succesful club getting to you rusty 54 titles and STILL going strong

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Get a grip, stop blatantly ramping up the particular brand you have mentioned. There are other brands out there too. Tut tut.

p.s

The 'if carlsberg did........'comments are now outnumbering the ' you couldn t make it up' comments. Boring.

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Aye 54 titles and the worlds biggest party in 2008 admittedly couple of idiots spoiled it for some but apart from that a year ever fan cherishes one of the BEST years in Scottish football History by far

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Minus six for cheating,whether you did or did not always the question tainted titles all six of them b

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11 Mar 2012 15:54:04
I see numerous bears posting that
HMRC are only going to take 10p in the £1
and also Ticketus 10p in the £1 as a
result the Rangers Fans Fighting Fund
will now accept donations of 10pence also
Hail hail Timalloy
Ps Make mine a TREBLE!
PPs Hope you all found other things
to do this weekend with no game, at
least it gives you practice for next season!

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I bet u wish this could happen to the most succesful club in the world every year so the mighty tic could win something 54 going strong

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And six of them will go down in history,did they cheat or did the not always in doubt put that on your record,the pay nobody brigade may be you should add that to your history b

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11 Mar 2012 15:41:08
jus been on sky sports news that first million of savings is in the bank

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Yeh you are rolling in it b

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Aye and you are full of it, b.

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11 Mar 2012 15:20:15
this was in today's obsever stating brian kennedy has already held talks with duff and phelps here's the story >>Businessman Brian Kennedy has confirmed he has held talks with Rangers' administrators about the future of the Scottish Premier League club.

Kennedy, who owns the Aviva Premiership rugby union side Sale Sharks, says he is not interested in being part of a takeover consortium – something being considered by the former Rangers director Paul Murray – but admits that may be the best solution for the Glasgow club.

Kennedy told the Scottish Daily Mail: "I've had a meeting with the administrators. But they have to work out exactly what the position is before they can talk to anybody in earnest.

"Ideally, a consortium will be put together to buy Rangers. I would not be interested in joining a consortium because it's not the way I work. But that might be best for Rangers if it came off.

"The Blue Knights seem to be a good bunch of guys and, if they can get the funding to save Rangers, then good luck to them. I am not competing with them.

"I would stand back if they showed they were the best option for Rangers. But if they are not able to do so, then that is possibly where we might have an interest. As always, there is an 'if' in there."

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At least 2 weeks old this story... Keep up lol

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11 Mar 2012 15:09:48
For those that thought duff and phelps were Whyte's patsies then the interview in the record today sorts that out. They are scathing of whyte and his handling of the business, they make it clear the charlatan will never be allowed back.

I will admit I thought they were Whyte's puppets but clearly not, and good thing too.

I just have this feeling that whyte is going to end up in liquidation with all these suggestions that he is liable for ticketus debt. How sweet that would be!

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Thats right believe a company thats linked with whyte in all sorts of ways.what i can see is years of legal wrangles with only lawyers winning.

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11 Mar 2012 15:01:42
beakin news ssn jim white looks excited

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Wouldn't you get excited if you were sitting in the studio with the babes on sky sports news? Ha.

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There's only one Jim blue nose White!

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Jim white legend

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11 Mar 2012 14:28:48
Just speculating. Say Rangers win the tax case, and also Ticketus found legally unable to pursue Rangers for the money and they have to go after Whyte. That leaves $15 million of debt. Very attractive for investors. Very.

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More than that

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11 Mar 2012 14:23:50
let me make it easy for every poster here..KNOWONE WILL BUY US UNTILL HMRC IS DONE N DUSTED....and knowone is going to tell me the admin. guys dont already know the outcome...deecee

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Well if the Admin guys know the outcome then the tax case must be done and dusted and they would be passing info on to potential bidders.

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No-one knows the outcome.

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Admin have to make a purchase a viable proposition. read between the lines of their statements.

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11 Mar 2012 13:38:38
"where were all these buyers when murrays was trying to sell" , why does timmy keep asking this? Is it not possible the likes of Kennedy etc had other business deals on their table back then, maybe rangers didn't interest them then, people are allowed to want different things as time goes by, or maybe they couldnt do business with Murray, appears now he did knock back others in favour of whyte. Just because no "Celtic men" would touch you lot with a barge pole back in 94 you think "rangers men" will think the same, I'm afraid your WRONG timmy!
PaulRFC

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Why do you always assume it's Celtic fans asking. There are Rangers fans asking too. Grow up and give your head a shake - just because you don't like/agree with what someone else says, it doesn't make them a Celtic fan!

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Paul your sounding a bit delusional,your not trusting d&p are you? liquidation is still a very real problem,thats why the 16th of this month is key.huge outgoings,and no money in for weeks.

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11 Mar 2012 13:04:07
Rusty the tim here on a lovely Sunday afternoon!just read the papers and for you rangers fans who are jumping on the billionaire people coming to buy rangers please go back to bed and sleep off your hangover or just watch the green and White brazil at 1.15.face facts if no buyer comes in half your players are sold for still no money and the players won't keep on there reduced wage after may...just watch Forrest he's the new messi.just 1 season away from being a 50million pound player!Scott brown is the new xavi!Steve Davis can't compete with him!just watch the treble going to parkhead and il watch asda gettin built behind the big house at end of season!hail hail rusty (I luv Craig whyte) the tim p.s I think Craig whyte is a tim!!!!pml

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Haha, Scott Brown is the new Xavi! Too much buckfast the day me thinks,gave me a laugh right enough

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Forrest the new messi what planet are you on ya tit , to much Bucky again.

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Do you not think he wasn't being entirely serious?

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FAIL FAIL!, your name sais it all btw you must be a bit rusty because even though it might be a joke its like any other tic fan havin a laugh with the comments but being serious at the same time......... DELUDED! that is all!... steeeeeeve

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11 Mar 2012 12:37:22
Craig whyte never had any money and he could buy the club. I didn't realise you needed money

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11 Mar 2012 12:35:50
Today Celtic can go a step
Closer to a historic treble , yet all the Celtic fans still want to talk about world record club championship holders RANGERS . . .we don't care about your team why do yous worry about ours ? OBSSESSED

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Then why did you post about celtic ........irony

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Not many of them on here today so don't know where you're getting that from.

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"historic" ? ... It's nowhere near historic mate, it's has been done before, on more than one occasion, I like your post but laugh at that reference !
PaulRFC

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Paul rfc , its historic as would be the first time a treble is won with the manager also have won a treble as a player . no one has done it yet

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Haha to the above poster, paul mate a think they just make their own history sh!t up, don't think anybody really cares mate, here, send me your address and al send ye a folding hat and a balloon ye can blow up so you can have a wee tea party wae your wee hoopy teddy, PMSL, steeeeve

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11 Mar 2012 12:00:55
Would just like to say how good it is the players and staff taking massive cuts in wages more props to them. Good to get some help from those that are paid what is a superb wage foregoing some to make sure the club stays afloat

Pardoe

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I think there might be a bit of self serving in it as well

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The same players who take the cuts, especially those taking 75% cuts, will walk for nothing or next to nothing in the summer. It is still a noble gesture of sorts as keep admin staff employed till at least then but, lets be honest, they will walk with bulging bank accounts and not care 2 hoots about Rangers, except to say in the Rangers friendly media how they walked to save the club! Similar with Wylde who had to go as new contract signed in the summer stipulated big pay out after certain amount of games. Amazing to see the guys on here dreaming of big investors, to go down the road that put you in this mess in the first place!

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11 Mar 2012 11:34:29
Just look over David Murray's interview in the Sunday Mail, to quote " everyone forgets the good times" yes your correct in that fact, lets be honest we was all fat, dumb and happy, we loved the sound bites "for every £5 Celtic spend we'll spend £10" we all lapped that up cause it was a slap in the face of Celtic. Did anyone one of us ask or took a step back and asked "how are we paying for all this" very few of us did ask at AGM's was shouted down.
David Murray are to blame, buying players on the never never, living beyond our dreams, you and Peter Ridsdale shared the same dream and looked what happened at Leeds Utd.
Next, you said Craig Whyte duped you, and Whyte never said he was banned as a director, let me introduce something to you, its fairly new its called Google, or did you take the policy Dont ask Dont tell. Or dare i say honor between thieves. Surely you would have done a back ground check on Whyte, most jobs we apply for require a back ground, you know incase we've got a dodgy past.

Das Shadow

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Apologize for the grammer, its still very early here in the morning in Toronto.

Das Shadow

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@ Das Shadow;Bang on.It amazes me how the Scottish Press have the cheek to claim exclusives on stories that where in the ether close to 18 months ago.I do know some rangers fans who wondered how the cash would be paid back but there seemed to be a murray knows what he's doing mentality. A Tim.

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What i finding worrying that amount of control David Murray got over the media.

Das Shadow

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11 Mar 2012 11:26:22
In the Sunday Post Duff and Phelps are telling the blue knights to put up or shut up. You can deduce from this that they are the only group who are interested. The news about the billionaires in the east and US is just spin and propaganda.

Oh btw, looks like the SFA are going to ban the tax dodgers from the scottish cup. Given that you will be kicked out of europe eight months before christmas (is that another record for the rankers) and that your record incups this year has been humiliating i think we can safely say that Duff and Phelps FC dont do cup competitions.

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So duff and phelps said "i quote put up or shut up " mmmmmm dont think so and you in your capacity of knowing nothing deduce they are no other groups interrested now im not saying there is but i also know nothing but unlike yourself i dont jump to conclusions mark.

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11 Mar 2012 11:00:34
I just give up with all this takeover Pish .now ticketus pulling out .Still say they will get their money all this is going to end up going through courts big tax case .Administrators saying all the people that are wanting to take over are all talk I gee up

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11 Mar 2012 10:53:54
Einstein. when he said that the definition of madness was to do the same experiment time and time again and expect different results. so why let the same people take over the club again? madness. something new needed.

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11 Mar 2012 10:18:47
If there is interest from far east and America why didn't Murray sell to them in the first place? Makes me think Mr tight was Murray's fall guy.

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11 Mar 2012 10:15:09
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PAUL CLARK has revealed that there is interest in Rangers from the Far East and the American continent as Duff and Phelps seek a new buyer in the week ahead.

The joint administrator wants to whittle down interested parties to "serious bidders" by the end of the week after the Rangers players stabilised the club's position by agreeing to massive pay cuts.

Mr Clark said: "What we want is to have only serious bidders left by the end of the week. So anybody who has just been talking - and there are a few out there who have done a lot of talking - we want to seek them out and, as it were, put their money where their mouth is.


"Let's get them round a table so we know how many parties we've got. I don't care how many bidders we end up with but I want to know who they are, what they are and what their worth is, so then we can have more serious conversations about achieving the end goal which is to get Rangers under new ownership.

"This is the problem we have got, we have one or two parties prepared to talk to the media and then you have other parties who have been quietly and slowly and diligently getting on with their business behind closed doors outside of the glare of the media and we are taking them just as seriously as anybody who is on the front page of the newspapers saying, 'I'm going to buy Rangers, you just watch'.

"If somebody wants to involve the media, that's fine. And if they become the owner then they can sit on the front page of all the papers saying, 'I did it'. But don't be surprised if that owner isn't one of the people who is media friendly."

"By the way, I am not ruling anybody out in this process, absolutely not. I'm just saying that nobody should assume that the only serious bidders are the ones who are in the public domain."

"I don't want to be specific about bidders but there is at least one party from the Far East and we've had some interest as well from the American continent.

"We're talking about Scotland, wider UK and some overseas parties. There's been a number of meetings over the last few days and more planned for next week. I've got two calls to two different parties over the weekend. We have an online data room for those parties so they can go in and take information over and above what we've told them in our meetings.

"You've got different people asking different questions. We hope and believe that a new owner will be installed before the end of the season so that it's not us in charge at season's end. That's our objective.

"What we've done so that people realise they need to speed themselves up is to say that on Friday we want to receive absolute proof of your funding so we understand who you are and which camp you are in because some people have feet in various camps.

"We want to know who exactly has your money. More importantly, we want some form of indicative bid, so that will distil down however many parties we have got at the moment to the final few."

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11 Mar 2012 09:59:57
Lets not get carried away with all these statements from the admin. Only 3 days ago we were close to not being able to fulfil our fixtures, even now we don't have enough money to pay all our bills (today's statement from d and p). Where we're all these buyers when Murray was trying to sell for three years, we are in an openly worse state now than we were then so why are there so many buyers lining up to buy? Apart from being Rangers what is so attractive about us now and if Whyte has no claim on Rangers who is the owner of all his shares. Until there is some real clarity about the whole situation I will still be worried. It is not right that we should not pay our debts, even if it is Dundee Utd. I know I will get pelters for being so pessimistic but Whyte promised everything and we were stupid enough to believe him, let's not be so stupid again.

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Not pessimistic mate,sensible.Rangers really have to be careful who they jump into bed with.You would think lessons have been learned. A Tim.

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11 Mar 2012 09:44:48
Well now the dust has settled a little. Been thinking about Murray ticketus &co and I really don't think this is the way forward .Murray remember did not want to know before whyte took over.said not with the big tax case pending .I also don't think he has the wealth to do much.there must be someone better that is able to step up to the plate.ticketus will just be making sure they get their money even if it is over a few years .

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11 Mar 2012 09:33:09
I've reed people asking about wee dicks spending policy, one question, who questioned it when 40,000 people turned up at hampden with dutch tops on?

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11 Mar 2012 08:49:51
Hey bears, I see you have 7 Trillionaires
6 Zillionaires and 56 plain old Billionaires
wanting to buy your club, OF COURSE
everyone believes it.......
On another note your own Duff & Duffer
have now said that 20 players would
have been made redundant if players
did not take wage cuts, puts it now
into perspective just how "gallant"
these players were, either oot the door
with nae money, or stay on decent
money and nice wee get oot of jail
clauses inserted....
All us Celtic fans now do not read
fairy stories to our kids, we read
all the statements from Chick, Keevins
Traynor and your own Duff & duffer
the one I like the best is the
"never ending story" LOL Timalloy

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Haha getting to you isnt it? Theres nothing wrong with people having a bit of hope. Just shows the kind of person you are wanting to crush that hope in anyway you can. Pathetic.

Raab

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Timalloy who is banging on about zillionaires or even billionaires i for one would just be happy for my team to survive was it not yourself on here saying joking aside you also hope rangers survive mark.

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Totally disagree TimAlloy, but your post was quite entertaining. Good effort.
I'm sure it will not be long until your kids are back to their stories, once the Teddy's are back to winning ways, lol, (normal service resumed so to speak) there won't be much to talk about in many a Tim household. Stevie-A-Bear

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Yeah...its getting to us. What a nightmare being solvent, not making dodgy payments to players, playing fantastic football with a big squad full of internationals we can afford, heading for a treble and doing it fair and square. That's fair and square...something you lot would know nothing about. Pay up (Dundee Utd eg) and shut up. Enjoy the dessert, Jelly and ice-cream!

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Oooooooooooooooo haha it clearly is. Im talking about surviving.

Raab

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11 Mar 2012 07:43:35
much has craig whyte taken out of our club this is what i think, ticketus 24, unpaid tax 9,this seasons season tickets 14, bougy money 2.5, jelavic 4.5 comes to 54 millon, i know he has to pay the staff but wheres the rest.

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Bougherra was sold for less than £2m.

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If you take boudys wage in to account it was close to 3 million.

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11 Mar 2012 03:51:46
every name linked with rangers is old board why, they see you as a easy touch,please wake up and smell the coffee i love celtic but it is getting beyond a joke you fans deserve more, please dont let them with there couple of million £ss come in and take control, ffs white bought yous for a quid and sent yous down the rivers surely your supporters club rep can ask admin to be present when they decide on the new owners. as without the fans they are nothingthen it is time to protest.hope yous make it b

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11 Mar 2012 03:39:03
WE'RE WEARING RED AND BLACK!, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT WHYTE BACK!!. www.redblackrangers.com.... WE ARE THE PEOPLE!!.....BILLY THE BEAR......

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As del boy would say "what a plonker"

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11 Mar 2012 02:16:01
Am I the only one who is worried
that the pay cuts could cause more
problems than they solve?

It's a pay cut to the end of the
season. If a buyer isn't found then
the wages go back to 100% at a
time when income is practically zero!

I don't want to be a pessimist but
that doesn't sound too good to me.

We keep hearing how this one and
that one is ready to step in I think
we need to go all Cuba Gooding Jnr
and ask them to
"Show me the money" - Jaxie

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There is potential for millions in the summer through new sponsorships etc, new tv deals (hopefully) it sounds mad because of the mess we are in but when we get to the summer these deals are there for us,sponsors will still want us, that's a defo

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If worst comes to it we can let all our players go in the summer to buy more time. Don't need players when there's no games to play. Just saying worst case scenario. Think it'll all work out okay though.

pappy

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Does any of my fellow bears understand why the tax are willing to do a deal with us aslong as white isn't involved when it was SDM who got us in this mess

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Sdm isnt involved with rangers anymore and it looks like whyte isnt anymore HMRC will be more willing to sit down and talk to sum new owner mark.

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11 Mar 2012 00:49:38
alright my fellow bears how are yous it is now looking better for us but until there is a new owner that has bought over i wont get over hyped but rangers being saved will be better then winning the league anyway because we know we will be back to win it next season

campbell

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Oh yes, you are saved there is i big knight galloping down the road on a big white horse and throwing you all the tax money they have collected from the poor WAKE UP THAT WAS ROBIN HOOD you dont pay anyone not oven her majesty the loyal one,your new owners i bet are connected to the same ones that got you into this sh*t THE MIGHTY PAY NO ONE BRIGADE get real b

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What's the queens oven got to do with it?

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She is head of state and approves taxes in which you failed to pay what part of that do you not understand, you are quick to sing god save her but not as quick to pay her

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No wonder you sing god save the queen now you are asking her to let you pay only 10p in the pound joke brigade WE PAY NOBODY DOT COM b

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Oh you bitter little person cant take it that rangers are looking a better position then it has been for a while that's fine we have heard all the jokes the celtic fans laughing jelly and ice cream ha ha rangers are going out of business a don't blame yous right enough a would be the exact same but now that rangers are looking in a better position and unlikely were going bust that annoys you

but like super ally said people might have a view kick in when were down and jokes but ones we get back up were coming back and we will be the ones laughing in the end

campbell

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I think hes trying to say Rangers fans are half baked lol

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