Rangers Banter Archive May 11 2014

11 May 2014 20:49:14
i am sick and tired of hearing the gullible greatin faced people on here say give the board a chance give Wallace a chance. wake up and smell the roses ffs they have had a chance these guys are supposed to be bringing in investment to help take the club forward and from where i'm standing the investment brought in so far by them will not cover their ridiculous wages and bonuses.

Wallace and Sommers where brought in by the Easdales and Stockbridge who where brought in by Green, Margarita holdings blue pitch holdings etc etc all we have running our club are different puppets but the same puppet masters the very same people who have siphoned 70 million out of our club

if by some chance refusing to renew season tickets kills of our club then so be it I would rather a quick death than a long slow lingering death and that's what we will get if we don't starve this lot out.

Lochaberbear is spot on. Everyone who is buying tickets thinking they are supporting the club, are and have been for the last two years, financially supporting Whyte, Green, Stockbridge and every other conman thus helping them enhance their bank balances at expense of the club.

If someone conned you out of your money this openly in the real world away from Rangers, every single one of you would be fighting your corner and shouting it from the roof tops.

All financial markets go up and down based on fear and confidence and these people in charge of our club think that they can scare everyone into giving over their hard earned cash based on the fear of rangers going back into admin or liquidation and ultimately that's what the plan has been all along. Once the fans can no longer afford to keep putting their money into the club the money will be syphoned off, leaving the excuse for them to take out a substantial loan secured against the assets which will be impossible to be paid.

If you want to keep feeding these people its up to you but I for one won't buy a season ticket, strip or any other merchandise to see it go to boost their retirement plan.

I does not matter what u think they own the club the only way to get rid is keep club ticking away until such times as they are minority shareholders

You are wrong lbj d this mob will never let it get to the stage when they become minority share holders not while there is still some income for them to siphon of i. e season ticket money and as northger has stated once that disappears they will then sell of our assets ibrox albion car park etc etc.

once we have nothing of value left these nameless people will disappear into the sunset to find another fat bloated carcass to feed from why do you think they are so adamant that they remain faceless and why do you think they will not give security over any of our assets except to each other.

people have stated they will not renew their season ticket until the board goes well in my opinion its a waste of time I will not renew my season ticket until we have new owners.

and before the usual insults come pouring in accusing me of not being a real Rangers Fan I was a shareholder before admin which I lost i'm a shareholder now which i'm prepared to lose I have been a season ticket holder most of my adult life I have been unfortunate to have witnessed the lean year ( when Celtic won 9 in a row) but blessed to have witnessed the good times Barcalona 1972, 9 in a row etc etc) I have followed Rangers all over the world in our ventures into Europe all this has cost me tens of thousands of pounds over the years but I done this gladly and willingly to support my beloved Rangers I will not do it anymore to fed a bunch of parasites who could not give a jot about Rangers


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Lochaberbear&northger, Both of you are so wrong. The truth is, you don't have clue how much Green&Co. have taken. In fact, nobody does but, at present, it is not the figures quoted.
The scam was to buy the assets as cheaply as they could and realise the benefits in various ways. Firstly, the penny shares are sold at market prices, thus reaping them a huge profit.
Secondly, inflated salaries and fees are paid, through the club accounts, thus securing further benefits. There are ways of drifting cash but, in my opinion, the main money is in the two areas quoted.
At this stage, the assets have hardly been touched, but to starve them of cash means that they will have no option but to utilise them.
Dave King is correct in trying to ring-fence Ibrox and Auchenhowie, but I really doubt the current methods are correct.
Look at the costs in the Dec. 13 review and seriously assess them. They actually tell us quite a bit. e. g. the player costs/turnover. Also tells us the dubious areas.

@ 3 It would be folly for anybody to attack your post. Logic and passion are a powerful brew my friend. Your hurt and anger and feeling of hopelessness is shared by thousands of us. Good luck to you! and very well said!

Well said lochabear.
The penny still has not dropped for many.

Lochaberbear, my response was to your original post and northger. Re your comments in 3], I agree with you totally and my history of following our club is very, very similar. Where I disagree is how we get rid of them. At all costs we must protect Ibrox and Auchenhowie and I just feel that the not keeping the club going is playing right into their hands. Damage limitation, and in my opinion we must play them at their own game and buy ourselves time.

Billy b the only way unfortunetly is buy enough shares to gain control we have already had a half boiled attempt at this with the blue knights who also would not put there hands into there pockets as was said passion and logic can win through

Lochaberbear I had 8 bonds the last time and lost £40k putting them in a minority woul not de to difficult there are shares for sale on the market every day it would not take a whole lot to give loyal bears 51% considering there are circa 30/35% in the hands of bears at the present mr letham has the option to turn his loan to shares a£!m loan woul today equate to 4million shares roughly and if king put his hand in his pocket coupled to what could be bought by others it would not take to long

Lochaberbear most rangers supporters are with you on this one mate I've posted on here exactly what you say regarding shares these reptiles will never allow to many shares to be bought thus always having control these feckers do this kind of stuff for a living they know exactly what they are doing I hope every last one of them has a very painfull death

They will allow us to buy the shares at a price and till every kinghead realses this the club slithers down the slippy slope to oblivion they have all the aces the way things are at the minute we are a busted flush

11 May 2014 14:50:29
Don't usually like giving praise to Celtic players on here but congratulations to Giorgias Samaras on winning Eurovision last night.

Great post Naz.

Ha ha, belter Naz

LOL great post OP

Goodman

Superb!

Genius!

Laughing,, still laughing, ahaha.
Great shout.

Keep it up Naz, we need more of this. Best banter post this season.

Brill naz I was thinking about your post when I was sitting on a bus most other passingers must have thought what's that auld guy laughing for auld loony lol

Do you think Lennon will be claiming an away win in Europe?

11 May 2014 09:41:35
The momentum is starting to grow another ex captain backs the cause. Big Lorenzo says he spilled blood for the Rangers cause.
But all he's seen for the last two years is people bleeding the club and the other day. Big Eck spoke out about this as well we need more of the legends to speak out for us come on guys it time to speak out.

Like all the others doing a lot of talking, tell them to buy shares and then their say will count for something. There are plenty of shares available at present [27-29pence]

Maybe amo and the rest of so called legends will return there ebt money and help the club out or even better get there pal king and gough to buy shares and stop shouting from the outside

@2 Great post agree totally

King and x captains with no financial stake who have in turn taken money from the club king £18m returned loan gough amuroso top wages and amurusos case e b t money who no doubt are described by the immortal words rangers men through and th for me the only way I would even think about there proposals would be if they put there hand in there pockets

EBT? you boys need to think before posting EBT was used to boost players overall renumeration a court decided it was legal ok its going to appeal but it was unpaid payee that led to the club being liquidated so your comments are uneducated drivel buy a book.

@ 5 okay I will go slowly so it is easier to understand.
DM set in motion the EBT scheme which was allegedly abused. It was legal at the time and would have been okay if the loans had been loans and were due to get paid back.
DM could not sell the club because of "the big tax case" which was HMRC trying to get millions of pounds of unpaid tax in their opinion.
DM/LLODYS sold the club to Craig Shyte for a £1 and he then was responsible for any tax deemed due after the tribunal declared it's ruling.
We were put into Admin by Shyte because he wanted Duff and Phellps to be the "friendly" administrators. HMRC who had applied to the court to put us into admin for non vat payment, non tax and insurance payment agreed to Duff and Phellps
However Shyte would never in a million years have been in charge of the company if it wasn't for the EBT scheme.
Now you know you don't need to buy a book or finish reading the one your on.

Nbts, The EBT payments are dubious, but legal if the scheme is in order, This however was money being spent that we did not have. Regarding the HMRC debt that was run up during whyte's 'reign'. In my opinion, all part of the asset scam scheme.

I did not say that I know it was the unpaid p a y e * (one e ) the unpaid p a y e in question was for the period of craig whytes tenure along with unpaid v a t the comment about the e b t money h m r c asked players involved if they would be willing to pay any of the money back and to a man they refused nbts that's educated drivel and yes it is subject to appeal but with olld co rangers not being represented can u give me an educated guess what the outcome will be

I rest my case your honour

Nbts I suggest u also by abook h m r c offered whyte several ways to make good the p a y e money whyte did not keep up his end of the bargain and that was why they would not let the club come out of administration and bt that h m r c knew rangers had won the tax case and did not want the shareholders of rangers to chase them for compo so a mixture of both sunk the club and the crazy aspect of it all was if the bank of scotland had let rangers trade away absolutely nothing would have happened but the murray administration paid all taxes and suppliers on time

11 May 2014 09:24:53
i see the latest pensioner linked is barry ferguson it looks as if ibrox will turn into retirment home for old rangers

11 May 2014 14:01:33
Give me strength really Barry Ferguson, maybe Ally would be interested in some other golden oldies out of contract to join forces with Miller and boyd. Boumsong34, kyrgiakos 34, Cuellar 32. Bougherra 31, lovenkrands 34, Burke 30 and Broadfoot. 29 (we bit young). Who needs a scouting system lol.

I would take we chris back I thought he got a raw deal at ibrox iwould take ferguson to possibly although at first I did not want him on reflection I was a bit hasty about him