Rangers Banter Archive April 12 2018

 

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12 Apr 2018 20:35:37
Good luck to young Bates. Great step up for the lad to the Bundesliga. Fantastic place to live and enjoy.

We have profited in the past by getting players for free and ultimately other clubs will poach ours too.

I’m sure we have others in the pipeline, for next year, we’re looking at, possibly why he wasn’t offered another contract.

I’m sure he will prosper into a good pro, seems to have the capabilities and attributes.

I’m not too worried as McCrorie can play there and also his distribution wasn’t the best, saying that he never let us or himself down and he goes with my good wishes.

Especially to it’s the Blues brothers HSV.



12 Apr 2018 21:07:19
You think bates will be playing in the bunesliga then bluebell?



12 Apr 2018 21:18:49
i don't get why people are annoyed bates is going he is rotten he's a junior football playe, shows how bad our defence has got if folk think he was decent



12 Apr 2018 22:38:42
Jyf

Probably 2nd Tier next year, which is still a step up
from the SPL.

So yeah



13 Apr 2018 04:33:37
Bluebell how can you say the 2nd tier in Germany is better than the Spl, we might not be the best league, but how can we expect any respect from outside Scotland when we slag our own league the way you have done, absolutely shocking



13 Apr 2018 06:46:53
bluebell, I doubt that you could name many german second division teams without google yet you know the standard is better than Scotland aye OK.



13 Apr 2018 09:03:56
After living there for a few years I could name a good few.

The standard in 2nd bundesliga is on par with the championship.

I’m not slagging or running our league down, it is what it is, but don’t let’s pass it off as being on par with a league that it’s not.



13 Apr 2018 10:29:28
I’m not passing it off for a league it’s not, read your post, you said the 2nd tier of Bundesliga is better than the spl, that is complete fabrication, the bottom half of most of the top leagues our top 4 could hold their own against over a season



13 Apr 2018 12:37:04
We can’t even hold our own against Motherwell, Hamilton, or St Johnstone over the course of a season in our own bottom of our league.

The standard outwith our top 4/ 5 is absolute crap. Of course you can only win what’s in front of you but our league is woeful. That said if they gave us more tv cameras inside the ground, better angles, commentators with magic pens and touch screens, we could possibly make it just as interesting as stoke v Huddersfield.



13 Apr 2018 12:37:20
by that token Jyf how many germans could name Scottish Prem teams outside the Old Firm?



13 Apr 2018 17:25:42
How do I know snell? You would have to ask some germans to get the answer to that so your point was? Mine is that Scottish teams play in europe, no matter how briefly, and have a higher profile than any second tier german team. Are you seriously saying that the german second division is better than the Scottish premier?



13 Apr 2018 18:30:50
We couldn’t beat a part time bunch of fruit sellers and budgie shop owners this year.

The Bundesliga 2 is technically a far superior league to ours.

Outside our home games and I include Celtic’s home games, watching it is on par with pollock v Arthurlie



14 Apr 2018 00:11:15
Do I know with certainty? can't say one way or the other mate. Had a wee nosey at their league though, teams like Kaiserslautern, Fortuna Dusseldorf and Armenia Beilefield all have a decent name throughout Europe, well a better name that our clubs with the exception of Old Firm and probably Aberdeen. don't think our teams getting pumped in Euro qualifiers against teams from tiny Euro countries really "raises the profile" that much.

Your average football fan doesn't really pay attention to Euro fixtures at that stage of a competition. Most sides in the league averaging around 20k fans, some just under 30k per game. Also Hibs took a boy on loan from that league that they openly admit would need to take a wage cut to join them permanently- that team sit second bottom just now. So I can't say hand on heart which is better, but to dismiss it as being impossible isn't right either.



14 Apr 2018 00:12:39
and Jaj saying our top four could hold their own would mean you think they can compete against teams currently including Wolfsburg, Werder Bremen, Newcastle, Watford, Althletic Bilbao, Real Sociedad, Bologna and Torino. Aberdeen and Hibs against those aye?



12 Apr 2018 20:04:53
Sorry lads but I don’t see the big fuse over Bates. Think most would agree we need better class of defenders at ibrox for next season.



12 Apr 2018 23:18:02
Totally agree



13 Apr 2018 01:30:53
100% agree JC, we need far better to compete at European level moving forward. He’d have been ok as a back up but no more!



13 Apr 2018 11:27:28
JC. I suspect some of the fuss is that what has happened is the complete opposite of who our strategy is supposed to be - bring in young players, develop them and sell them on at a handsome profit. We have brought in a young player, not really developed him and now he’s off for nowt, or a compensatory fee at best.

Whilst his wage demands may or may not have been excessive, he may or may not have played regularly next season, we have allowed Wilson and Bates go recently and that’s bound to make some people uneasy.



13 Apr 2018 12:31:03
Totally agree JC. For the standard we need to be at, he would be nothing more than a squad player. All the best to the lad though, gave his all when playing and actually refreshing to see a young Scottish player step out his comfort zone and go into the Continent.



12 Apr 2018 18:21:22
David Bates greeting match in 3, 2, 1.



12 Apr 2018 19:23:11
Good luck to the boy, players move club all the time. Not a big deal.



12 Apr 2018 19:28:36
I know mate. You’d think it was the end of the world.

We’ve lost bigger and better, we will survive fs 😂



12 Apr 2018 19:39:09
Steve Clarke next manager!
Also a Scottish millionaire ready to put in 9,5 million in next share issue, can't reveal name as I promised not to say .
Wait and see .



12 Apr 2018 19:52:14
Like to wish David Bates all the best gave 100pc every time he played.



12 Apr 2018 21:08:33
But will he still?



12 Apr 2018 17:28:59
I was hoping Bates and McCrorie would be our CB pairing for years to come! The board have fkd up letting him go.



12 Apr 2018 17:59:51
Don't know if any truth in it, but there's stories doing the rounds, that our new prospective manager, frank de boer, has instructed for rangers to let david bates leave, under freedom of contract, after discussions with mark allen! De boer has targets in mind he wants to play beside ross mccrorie, as our new central defence partnership! Remember de boer was a class centre half himself! Only passing on what i've been told bears!



12 Apr 2018 18:09:31
He’s 100% replaceable. Said no to a new deal.



12 Apr 2018 18:11:27
this board really must have some impressive cbs lined up in the summer that is wilson and bates come summer alves will probaly go same for cordoso



12 Apr 2018 18:17:53
I liked bates thought he has been more dependable than Alves, Martin and Cordoso this season but I trust mark allen has something lined up for next season.



12 Apr 2018 18:30:57
4 lads had a dream on twitter saying no contact with de boer but there's a list, suprised about bates but fair play



12 Apr 2018 18:32:28
Super cooper
Can I ask one question who told you A - De Bour would be manager and B -Bates is not in his plans



12 Apr 2018 18:43:16
I'm not bothered at all if we genuinely want to challenge next season bates would be good enough for like fourth choice centre back that's about it. I really don't rate him but good luck to him but I'm predicting he will not play one single minute for Hamburg first team then returns to Scotland for like Kilmarnock or something and is very average.



12 Apr 2018 19:02:05
Btw I was meaning in a financial business sense. Obv he is replaceable! He is a young Scottish lad and it would have been great to see him and McCrorie form a partnership.
I’ve been reliably informed that FDB name hasn’t been mentioned as a possible manager and the players hope by winning on Sun and going on a run that Murty will still be in charge.



12 Apr 2018 19:30:54
Am sure if murty was going to be the manager he would have wanted bates signed on for next season
So it is looking more likley new manager has been identified and has targets in mind



12 Apr 2018 20:50:21
Thinkaboutit, that's 2 questions my friend in the school i went to anyway! Do you think for one minute i'm going to name the person, who gives me good info and works for the club? Be grateful i'm sharing the info i was told, on here among fellow bears! You either believe it or not! Your choice pal!



12 Apr 2018 23:46:32
Supercoopereleven, you say De Boer has other targets in mind!? So your saying De Boer is the new manager from what you’ve been told?

Yet you’ve harped on about Murty and how you would give it to him?



13 Apr 2018 00:18:01
Lee_McF, how hard is this to understand mate? I have went on regarding wanting graeme murty to get the rangers manager's job, beyond this season but i've heard a story that frank de boer is going to be the next manager! What do you not understand? Because i think murty should be given the job doesn't mean he will! This is 2 separate things my friend!



13 Apr 2018 13:25:10
It's academic, neither will be Rangers manager next season. I've told you before, Allen is in deep discussions with Mikel Arteta. He's the first choice.



12 Apr 2018 17:04:01
David Bates has signed a deal taking him to Hamburg next season.
Source: (Hamburg's twitter and Instgram)



12 Apr 2018 17:32:57
Good luck to the lad



12 Apr 2018 17:39:58
To be fair I’m not that bothered because if we are going to challenge sellick next season we need a better quality of centre half at ibrox than David Bates.



12 Apr 2018 17:55:02
He’s 21 and better than Alves Cardoso and Martin. I think it’s a big loss



13 Apr 2018 00:30:20
Don't think bates departure will weaken us any but it is an indicator we are beginning to raise decent youth.



12 Apr 2018 12:32:17
Starting 11 for Sunday?



12 Apr 2018 12:51:44
I would love to go 3 5 2 but we don't have good enough defenders. So it would be 442for me so we don't leave ourselves open. Fod in goal
Back 4 of john alves martin and tav. Murphy Docherty and mcrorie in middle. Holt sitting in front right on top of brown with mcrorie covering centre halves. . Cummings and morelos through the middle . My team but it won't be the line up .



12 Apr 2018 15:06:46
Not a chance of playing two up it would be suicide we need to match them in midfield Morelos playing loan striker for me Cummings can’t do that he isn’t strong enough in fact I would not pay the £1mill asking price for him he isn’t worth that sort of money



12 Apr 2018 16:16:37
Fod

Tav
McCrorie (marking Celtic sole striker)
Alves (Sweeper Role)
Martin
John

Goss (if Doherty sorting Brown out he should have a bit more time on ball)
Doherty (on Brown like glue)
Candeias
Murphy

Miller

*Morelos on with 30mins to go to run at tired legs.



12 Apr 2018 16:22:50
I think this is the team more than likely to start
Fod tav mccorie martin john
Dorran docherty
Candelias miller murphy
Morelos
if murty was brave he could take a gamble and go with this team but it would be a gamble
fod tav alves martin john
Mccorie halliday
Candelias dorrans murphy
Morelos



12 Apr 2018 17:00:53
Fod
Tav Alves Mcrorie John
Candieas Dorrans Goss Docherty Murphy
Morelos



12 Apr 2018 17:21:04
Cummings isn't good enough yet we cheer him on like he's Ronaldo.



12 Apr 2018 17:28:34
Yup I agree with you with matching them in the midfield. . Whatever his line up we need to have one more man in the middle than the usual 3 we usually play. We are too open with the 2 in the centre and one playing behind the striker hence the reason I would pick a solid 4 in the middle
.



12 Apr 2018 17:42:18
I'd like to see Holt start but I'm not sure who would make way for him. Goss was like a fish out of water in the last Old Firm game so I wouldn't start him:

Foderingham; Tavernier, Alves, McCrorie, John; Holt; Dorrans, Docherty, Murphy, Candeias; Morelos



12 Apr 2018 18:49:40
Fod
Tav McCrorie Martin John
Dorrans Halliday
Candelias Miller Murphy
Morelos

That’s team I reckon he’s going to go with. Not the biggest fan of Halliday, however, he did influence the game against Dundee. Dorrans and Docherty gave the ball away far too easily and I reckon he may start Halliday.



13 Apr 2018 09:24:14
For me:
Wes
Tav mcrorie alves John
Docherty halliday dorrans
Candeias morelos Murphy

Not hallidays biggest fan, but if he plays like Saturday, I'll give him the nod.



12 Apr 2018 11:54:47
not a rumour but don't know if any of you have heard. a young 8 month old baby bear has technically passed away. His dad is asking for everyone to bring a blue balloon to hampden on sunday and release it as a tribute to his baby boy who at 8month old is going to be an organ donor. please spread the word. seems some celtic forums are getting involved in this too. cheers



12 Apr 2018 12:38:23
aw shame - thoughts go to the family



12 Apr 2018 12:39:03
So sad to hear this. I hope the stadium is awash with blue balloons on Sunday. Sleep tight wee man x



12 Apr 2018 12:55:49
Yeah mate its all over fb and twatter, the little guy has donated most of his organs aswell, all the family want was a blue balloon at the semi final



12 Apr 2018 13:35:03
let all gers fans going to the game or not get blue balloons and let them float the sky's where ever u all are. one more shinning star in the sky for the little man.



12 Apr 2018 15:39:02
God bless the wee baby boy! My heart goes totally out to all the wee baby boy's family! Let us fill the hampden sky on sunday with blue balloons, in a fitting tribute to the wee boy! So very sad and heartbreaking to hear this! Heaven has another shinning bright wee star!



12 Apr 2018 16:55:19
It puts the game into perspective. Thoughts with the family at this heartbreaking time.



12 Apr 2018 17:29:25
Would be a great touch if both sets of fans did this



12 Apr 2018 18:28:45
Heartbreaking, I got 3 kids myself and the thought of losing any of them fills me with fear.



12 Apr 2018 19:53:25
Just read about it. Heartbreaking. May God bless this brave little warrior. Thoughts with Koa's family at this dreadful time.



12 Apr 2018 20:39:32
RIP wee Bear: I hope and pray that the family, somehow find some peace in their hearts.



Review Of The Day 12th April 2018

12 Apr 2018 06:45:22
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 12th April 2018



12 Apr 2018 06:30:51
Comparative overview of the fixtures vs the Sheep:
Kilmarnock v Aberdeen
Rangers v Hearts

Aberdeen v Hearts
Celtic v Rangers

Rangers v Kilmarnock
Aberdeen v Hibernian

Aberdeen v Rangers

Celtic v Aberdeen
Hibernian v Rangers

We definitely have the tougher fixture list and it genuinely could come down to last 2 games. Points are definitely going to be lost in the first few weeks. the cup game will seriously dictate how we perform in the next few weeks. Honest confession= i'm worried, we haven't been performing at all well and the only positives i can see that may work for us is that we have near enough a fully fit squad now. Midfield is still a big concern though.



12 Apr 2018 09:10:47
I agree - with the teams left in top 6 and the 'uncertain' nature of our performances one week to the next - it wouldn't really have mattered who and where we played them, although I agree the last 2 games could be the difference between 2nd and 4th!



12 Apr 2018 09:44:50
There’s no difference really guys as we all have to play each other and our home form has been abysmal.



12 Apr 2018 11:38:10
2nd is last

change of mentality needed

if not first then irrelevant



12 Apr 2018 12:01:39
The form of most of the top 6 aren't that much better than us plus we all have to play each other we can get 2nd not as hard as some are making out



12 Apr 2018 13:37:00
I say 12 points out them games only the other mod to beat us in the split.



12 Apr 2018 13:55:40
No one remembers the team that finishes 2nd or the runner up.



 
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