Rangers Banter Archive December 12 2017

 

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12 Dec 2017 19:11:02
With Mcrorie looking likely to miss out tomorrow and the very limited number of midfield options we have found ourselves with. How do you think Murty will set up tomorrow night?

I can't really think how he will play the same shape without Mcrorie, unless he keeps Alves and Wilson back 2 and play Cardoso CDM? I know, doesn't sound great, I'm just speculating but I think Wilson is too slow for the CDM role, Fabio is faster.

Tbh he will probably have to change the shape all together if Mcrorie isn't playing.



12 Dec 2017 20:01:38
Fod _______bates alves wilson________ candieas tav barjonas holt John _________windass morelos ___________



12 Dec 2017 20:28:33
3-5-2 is a great shout. hibs are a good team and there strength is midfield. so we should pack it and try and win the middle of the park then the rest should take care of itself. but I'm gutted about our injuries. I suppose it will make it sweeter if we win. but we're in for a battle. Lennon will have them pumped up. that's for sure



13 Dec 2017 07:04:48
barjonas to start

if mcrorie can do a job in holding role as a converted cntr half why not barjonas who’s a natural centr mid who’s played that role every game he’s ever played

i hope he starts and plays a blinder as the lad has real promise and as we know hibs are a good team but let’s show everyone we are too



13 dec 2017 08:16:26
fod
cardoso alves wilson
tav barjonas candieas holt john
miller morelos

my opinion on pena is he gets into good spaces and sees the space well. just no first touch and very lazy.

if mcrorie is fit i'd play him instead of miller and put candieas further forward.



13 Dec 2017 08:20:23
Murty is a Shankly student - replace like for like. He didn't shy away from playing Bates and he won't shy away from playing Barjonas. It will be the normal formation, except I think he might go for the strength of Herrera as opposed to the . well, nothing really, of Pena.



13 Dec 2017 08:21:56
Good team Jzer. we've been so unlucky with injuries the past 2 seasons. its incredible the amount of long term injuries we've had.



13 Dec 2017 08:51:30
foderingham
Cardoso alves Wilson
tav barjonas holt pena jack
miller morelos



13 Dec 2017 09:40:34
Why would anyone put Pena in the team against Hibs? This will be a battle tonight and the last thing we need is a lazy player who contributes nothing in midfield. Put in Barjonas where you at least will get a player who will be up for the game



13 Dec 2017 10:37:02
remember we have kenny miller to play four positions in one so thatll help 😛



13 Dec 2017 10:57:34
Hibs have a good engine in mcginn Bartley mcgeoch etc in that central area! We must look to match that Murty will imo keep the same shape but as my previous post I would like to see us match them hence the 5 across middle and me moving tav into the central 3 his stamina is vital in there to help out holty who has been playing well and has tremendous mobility but obviously lacks strength and presence! Barjo and tav are athletes and are vital for the win tonight



13 Dec 2017 16:11:03
@ bigandy2310

Jack is suspended so won't feature at all



13 Dec 2017 20:25:52
Fod

Bates Cardoso Alves Wilson

Tav Holt Barjonas Candieas

Windass

Morelos

Solid at the back - Holt and Barjonas to stifle McGinn and Candieas on left to attack Whittaker - Tav and Windass to support Morelos when we break



12 Dec 2017 18:29:58
Putting all rivalry aside, I'd like to thank everyone who donated to the Ivy Rose Appeal at Ibrox on Saturday.

We raised £4300 which, we've been informed, is the largest amount raised by such a collection.

Your generosity for this wonderful wee girl is a credit to the support.



12 Dec 2017 18:37:08
A pleasure and thanks for taking time to post
👍



12 Dec 2017 19:27:42
We're not all bad lol



12 Dec 2017 17:24:51
Just watched murty presser. the more I listen to him the more I like him. but that stv sport guy Ramon something ahhhhhh I hate him. he constantly tried get answers about rangers signing policy regarding murty input. murty kept telling him but he just kept digging.



12 Dec 2017 16:52:57
Just a thought - Given that Pedro is now back coaching in Mexico I wonder if he will consider coming in for Pena or Harrera given that they don't seem to be adapting to the game here.



12 Dec 2017 18:29:36
Doubt it. The same as the bread man didn’t try to sign back any of his duds.

Not saying either Mexicans are duds btw. Herrera hasn’t had s fair change in mr opinion, and when he was given more than 3 mins at he end of a game he actually scored, twice.

Pena is talented but frustrating also. He is also a whipping boy. He was getting pelters vs County when there were at least 3 or 4 more players playing just as poorly as him. And the service was diabolical. Still the right decision to sub him👍🏼 Doesn’t make him a bad player because the game didn’t suit him though.



12 Dec 2017 19:06:54
Hopefully Murty or new manager will get more out of them as I expected a lot more from them by now



12 Dec 2017 21:52:07
BearMode

Pena didn’t try a leg against Ross County. Showed no interest in looking for the ball and on the few occasions he did touch the ball he gave it away. Not suited to the Scottish game and would be better off leaving sooner rather than later



12 Dec 2017 21:56:53
i agree, i haven't seen herrera enough to even comment fairly. pena has some great skills eg has assist against aberdeen. he plays better the more forward he is. there is a player there just needing to coach it out. at the moment he panics when surrounded.



13 Dec 2017 08:09:27
God I hope so. Both awful and not suited to spl. Should have got moult, walker and others who we knew.



13 Dec 2017 08:10:20
I'd sell both I think. Don't think they are suited to Scottish game. We paid a lot for them and don't think they have gave much back. Had work they say beats talent all day long if talent does not work hard.



13 Dec 2017 08:22:05
Pena is a shocking footballer and i don't care about his goal ratio. Literally a man down when he's in the side.



12 Dec 2017 16:19:05
I'm sick to death of the mcinnes stuff but I'm going to give a last post on it
Right the bloody media have dragged mcinnes name through every paper the last 6 weeks at no point did rangers mention his name. so why are the media blaming us for that. when we never said we wanted him until we asked to speak to him. I never used to buy into the anti rangers stuff but now it's bloody obvious. they're not even hiding it anymore. rangers deserves stick for the statement but not stuff we never did.



12 Dec 2017 15:38:06
Don't what u bears think? But said from day 1 regarding the managerial situation - murty should be given till the end of season - seems to know the group well and might be our best chance to have a good run till the end of the season - a new manager always brings uncertainty and might not favour players in form etc could lose even more ground and could have another Pedro on our hands - trying to think logically till the end of the season gives us a lot more tome to assess other candidates or murty might surprise and be kept on he knows the group / staff / club etc . Grass is always mhankier and aw that 🤔🤔😁😁keep the faith bears things aren't as bad as a lot 🙄🙄🙄would like to make out!



12 Dec 2017 16:45:40
We’ll see what Murty is all about over the next few weeks. It’s a different story as a manager when you know you have a run of matches rather than just one at a time like he did before McInnes fell through. He could make bold changes and it really wouldn’t matter because it may have been his last game in charge. Now that he knows he has it until new year might make him think a little more and make decisions like not dropping Miller even though he should be, just so that he doesn’t upset the camp



12 Dec 2017 21:55:46
Alex32

How can you run a team like Rangers with a caretaker manager for over half the season? How are we supposed to identify signing targets for January and the summer when you don’t know who the manager will be come the start of the new season? It’s one thing having a caretaker in for a short period of time but not for more than half the season.



13 Dec 2017 08:13:24
The problem with giving Murty to end of season is that if we finish 2nd, the board or DOF have only 6 weeks to to appoint a new manager, then identity signing targets, organise pre season, etc before our first European tie. Even less time if we finish 3rd. Season tickets also come out the beginning of May and the fans deserve to know what direction the club are going in.

We need a new manager pronto. I don’t care if it’s Murty, Neil, Mcleish Walter or whoever but the sooner we appoint someone the better. Just get it done.



12 Dec 2017 13:50:10
What if any mobile phone network works inside Ibrox?



12 Dec 2017 14:49:56
Vodafone works fine well mines does



12 Dec 2017 14:52:05
My virgin network works mate



12 Dec 2017 16:11:18
EE seems to work fine



12 Dec 2017 18:30:46
O2 works fine also. No issues for me.



12 Dec 2017 18:33:10
Thanks for the help lads



12 Dec 2017 13:39:52
Rangers 1975 go back and actually read my post I never said sell him for 1.5m I said it would be interesting in our current financial state if it would be entertained however in the interim it seems in process of signing a new deal.



12 Dec 2017 14:04:19
morelos and tav are the only players in our squad clubs would even consider spending 1M on, the rest are not worth that much and youngsters like mcrorie with 5/ 6 games in scotland under their belts aren’t going to fetch big fees. he’s a prospect that’s all.



12 Dec 2017 16:32:28
Your absolutely dreaming lum if you think any club would spend even close to 1m on Tav, the guy is a rank rotten RB.! And before anyone jumps on the “play him further forward” bandwagon, he puts in 1 maybe 2 at a push decent crosses into the box every other games. Nowhere near good enough.



12 Dec 2017 17:17:54
aye mate that’s how he’s got more assists than anybody in any other team in the league, and i said “consider spending 1M” never said we would actually get that for him. next time i’d suggest reading my post before having a dig.



12 Dec 2017 19:39:43
Well I’m that case he must be worth a fortune then eh, his lack of effort to get back into position after going forward is diabolical. Every team exploits the space he leaves, he needs to remember his job is to defend first and foremost. I’ll rephrase my “dig” then if you think any club would even “consider spending 1m” on Tav your dreaming. 💤💤



12 Dec 2017 23:50:50
Tav is a decent player. Yes he is not the greatest defender but the days of a full back having to defend first and foremost are long gone. Name 1 full back in the EPL who defends better than they attack?

And also name another RB better than Tav in the SPFL.

I can't.



12 Dec 2017 13:10:12
mclean, walker, moult. all available to add to next seasons squad for free this month. hope the club approaches these players as feel it would be pretty negligent to ignore them. i'm expecting a surge of disagrees but want to ask any fellow bears who consider these guys not good enough to name examples of players of equal or better standard who are available for hee-haw other than sign on and wages! just want to add that for me when we bring these guys in we get rid of rossiter, kranjcar, herrera. dalcio will be gone also. don't know whether miller will play on next season. saves wages brings in better players.



12 Dec 2017 14:51:07
Moult yes fur get the other 2 man



12 Dec 2017 14:58:44
Would certainly take moult as for walker and McLean I don’t think they would improve us greatly.



12 Dec 2017 15:15:26
Seen Moult is supposed to have signed a pre-contract with Preston.



12 Dec 2017 16:10:20
Unfortunately I think we have missed the boat regarding moult. we probably could have got him in the summer



12 Dec 2017 16:23:11
We are too late on Moult hea away to preston



12 Dec 2017 17:09:00
The rumour is that Preston are giving him over 20k a week!
To rich for us!



12 Dec 2017 17:10:32
i hadn’t seen the news about moult, think walker is certainly better than dalcio/ nemane/ candeias/ windass and therefor would improve us. take jordan rossiters 10k a week and use it to sign mclean, as long as he kicks a ball once every 2 seasons then it’s an improvement on rossiter, also get kranjcar tae. so they would both improve us imo. in fact saying they wouldn’t improve us means you just haven’t thought before replying.



12 Dec 2017 18:05:50
How long is rossiters contract?
Nobody going to buy him. My granny is fitter than he is and she is dead. If we want rid we will have to pay him off



12 Dec 2017 18:50:58
Lump you say take Rossiter ten grand get rid of Kranjcar and a few more I could think of, well sorry but they are all under contract and will not move or will have to be paid off and we don't have the money . We need a manager but that doesn't seem to be happening if we do get Murty it will be because we can't get anyone else he has said himself he was told the job full time is not on offer. The Mcinnes saga showed there was something in the background he didn't like as the board thought they had their man hence the classless statement so as for signings in Jan I don't think there will be much business done we need to get the share issue done get some money in and start again next season hoping we can get second with this squad



12 Dec 2017 19:57:15
It will cost us probably less money to pay a player off from their contract early rather than paying it every week till they are gone.

Probably be able to reduce the overall cost by coming to an arrangement, but as you are saying it doesn't mean that you can spend all the wage money as most of it will be accounted for in the pay off.

But it certainly makes sense if a player is almost guaranteed not to play again.

Niko probably has a lot of quality and experience that he can pass on to the team, so no doubt he is worth having around but to be fair its probably not great value for money.



12 Dec 2017 20:11:58
Show some respect to your wee gran man 😬😬😬



13 Dec 2017 08:07:19
Who would you drop in our midfield to accommodate McLean? As for walker he certainly isn’t better than windass and candieas



13 Dec 2017 11:14:15
It's not really a case of dropping somebody Vanbasten9. At the moment we only have Jack, Dorrans, Holt, Mcrorie, Barjonas. In a situation like now where potentially only Holt and Barjonas will be fit for the Hibs game, it would make sense to have Mclean. I personally think he's a better player than Holt, Mcrorie or Barjonas. Mcrorie and Barjonas could be future stars but they are not right now. And he's available for free. I didn't mention Rossiter because he basically doesn't exist we've seen that little of him and Kranjcar hardly kicked a ball in ages.



12 Dec 2017 12:00:11
Right guys my elf on the shelf turned up today, turns out that he's been busy helping our directors secure a new manager and remember this came from the elfs mouth itself, somebody called Mr S. Clause, i'm not sure if i trust the wee bugger as last night he had my wee ones barbie in a compromising position and a half bottle of gin by his side but by all means the wee dude is a staunch bear.
He said the new guy is a perfect match but also said that we would need to get the parking updated for his large mode of travel and also likes a winter break just after xmas 🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲❄❄❄
Merry xmas bears and readers from other teams.



12 Dec 2017 14:53:19
Fpmsl 😅😅😅😅😅😅 man



12 Dec 2017 08:04:56
Herrara and this invisible dalcio are the worst signings in years. How we didn't get moult is killing me. Mon the Gers for wed. Put holt on mcginn just to nick ball and kick lumps out of stokes, he will see red. It makes me laugh thinking if Ian Ferguson was playing. LEGEND.



12 Dec 2017 09:38:11
Moult is a good player for motherwell
But would he be good for rangers just look at nicky clark was scoring for fun before he came to rangers then strugled.
We are going to strugle to persuade players to come with no manager in place the board need get a new man in place before we sign players.

We as club should be keeping a eye on the austrain slovenia croatio denmark
norway sweden markets for players this is where you can find good buys



12 Dec 2017 09:52:37
Herrera hasn't had much time to do anything. he keeps coming on with about 2 mins to go.



12 Dec 2017 10:05:11
Personally i would look to move herrera and pena on hopefully pedro mite fancey the 2 off them and take them back to mexico



12 Dec 2017 10:58:06
Im not fussed abt Moult but at least he was doing it in the spl and against the likes of us, the sheep and the mhanks. Clark only done it in the championship for Queens



12 Dec 2017 13:21:01
moult does well for ‘well. you would think he would do just as good for us if not better. rumour has it that herrera is on big wages so even tho he hasn’t had much chance to show his talent i would like to see him move on, probably in both his and pena’s interests to do so as they will want to go the world cup just like big bruno



12 Dec 2017 07:44:14
Hi all. Does anyone else think Big Bruno has sulked since Pedro's departure?



12 Dec 2017 09:59:32
based on what?



12 Dec 2017 10:59:53
I don't think Alves is anywere near as good as all my fellow fans think he is. honking for the goal on Sat and against Hibs at the start of the season and makes loads of needless fouls for me



12 Dec 2017 14:58:23
If Alves is not happy at our club get shot of him, he has not set the heather on fire since he came to us anyway



12 Dec 2017 14:50:22
No - he put himself forward and done the press conference on Friday. He spoke very well.



12 Dec 2017 14:55:57
Away and finger some trees.

Bruno is our best centre halves in years and that includes the years of Dorin Goian etc.

Rock solid and classy on the ball.



12 Dec 2017 14:56:53
I see pedro has axed the striker at his new club, I know the very man to replace him and a cracking midfielder to go with him, buy one get one for free.



{Ed033's Note - Rangers can tell Pedro to 'bogoff' again.

12 Dec 2017 18:12:10
Appreciate the replies, I never said he was a bad player. He has had injuries and just thought with PC gone he might too. I'd rather he stayed.



12 Dec 2017 20:16:24
Alves classy on the ball well c on wed then we're getting hump but hope am wrong



13 Dec 2017 08:23:02
Classy on the ball🤔? he's forever humping it up the park!



 
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