Rangers Banter Archive January 12 2013

12 Jan 2013 16:14:00
ok...we are back to the old epl argument i see, courtesy of charlie boy......if both rangers and celtic leave the league i think scottish football would thrive with teams battling like fek for that big jackpot in the cl......it would become a more competitive league without the old firm which in turn would bring the fans back in droves....just my input....right now there's only one team that will win the league every year and we know who that is......i say yes to charlies idealogical thinking...deecee

Would you say yes if Rangers were that only team that could win it every year Deecee?

Gaz

Deecee. what you post is obvious and any fan, with any sense, would have to agree.But you seem to be missing the fact that at this minute there is no where to go.No EPL or Championship, no Euro league anywhere.I do however think that there might be a way to buy in to the lowest tier of the English ladder. But would fans go for that? games v Kidderminster etc? No European gamed for at least five years?

Absolutely not, can anyone imagine a stadium jam packed with St . mirren v Ross County, kilmarnock v inverness or any of the other options, bottom line is the quality is dreadful, and whither we like it or not we have, for our population, far too many teams, and far too many players who think they are ''professional football players'' which means they are some kind of athletes that never have to worry about alternative work,

Cant have your cake....and the answer to the poster who asked if the tables were turned....no ...because the word boring comes to mind....i would rather play kiddiminster etc with a view to climbing up the leagues rather than for talking sake dundee 4 times a year.....at least charlie is vocal....very vocal....deecee

Many of you think that if the courts ruled in your argument's favour then bingo youre in.
I can think of many reasons against what you seem to think are reasons to let you in
Courts are one thing............persuading those teas down to let you in is another
The courts won't decide that issue. So its take Scotland or see you in 2041 in England - if youre lucky.

Actually i can...all those grounds are max 15,000.....

@ Deecee,

I agree with you in that the SPL would become a more competative league if Rangers and Celtic left for England, but to what standard? Yes, teams will be competing for an opportunity of European football, teams who have never played in Europe, but they would still only be able to attract the same calibre of player who is already in the SPL right now, or worse. The likes of Motherwell, ICT, Aberdeen, wouldn't even be able to use the prospect of European to persuade a decent standard of player to the SPL as the money ain't there. Look at Ryan McGowan, probably the best young right back in Scotland and he chucks it for China, and that's with Celtic still in the league. Scottish football needs Rangers and Celtic. Every Rangers and Celtic fan obviously want to GTF to the English leagues but it is never going to happen.

The only thing that makes the SPL competative is Rangers and Celtic. The main aim for team outwith the Old Firm was to split Rangers and Celtic. That's were the real competition was, teams splitting Rangers and Celtic.

Apologies for the drunken rant LOL.

A slightly drunk TTG.

Id go to Kidderminster, and quite a few other grounds down here. There would be plenty of "ex-pats" going to games in England and the die hard Scots also. CheltBlue

@7. "The only thing that makes the SPL competative is Rangers and Celtic."
What is competitive about the same two teams challenging for the league every year and no prospect of any other team splitting them?
Al

12 Jan 2013 13:26:53
Berwick Rangers, today's opponents are an English team playing across border league! This ain't nothing new but suddenly a big deal because Charles green suggests it for us! I would welcome lower English league and work our way up. Leave small minded Scottish powers to get on with it in their joke league setup. NK.

And what happens when the English say they don't want us in their Conference League or anywhere else?

Are we just gonna play friendlies?

It's the same as the welsh scenario nimrod! It's historical, all happened before the rules changed.

@1, Harry Redknapp, Davie Moyes and Arsene Wenger have already backed the idea.

As we stay were we are
and play same teams
nxt season are we not
playing meaningless
friendlies just now
Billy H

Does Charles want the three points today or want them thrown out like he does Swansea and Cardiff (and presumably Wrexham if he'd had the brains to include them?)

Gaz

@2) Your wasting your time and banging your head against a wall trying to get sense like yours to sink in with some of the clowns on here. I swear if the ed's who run this site had a quid for every time someone has had to explain about the cross border ruling being changed in nineteen canteen they could have pulled together an acceptable CVA and saved the oldco Rangers. Mind numbing stuff.

Gretna wer a team that played in the lower tiers of English football then moved to Scotland so there's another cross border situation

@7. The last time I checked Gretna was in Scotland.
Al

12 Jan 2013 10:52:40
Rangers chief executive Charles Green has claimed that he could take UEFA to court under sex-discrimination laws and says Cardiff and Swansea shouldn't be in the EPL if Rangers aren't.

Green is opposed to current plans that would see Scottish league football reshaped into a 12-12-18 structure. He said that he would be recommending to the Rangers board that options to quit Scottish football should be explored.

In a radio interview, he claimed that there was a precedent for cross-border leagues in the women's game and that he would pursue equality in court.

The football fraternity has claimed Charles Green is a nutcase.Why should Cardiff and Swansea not be in the English league system, they have since the twenties i think.Regarding the cross border women's league, was this not because these countries had no women's set up?

Good thinking Charles, get the Welsh teams thrown out of the English Leagues if they won't accept Rangers. #Peoplesaythedumbestthings

Competitive sport is exempt from sexual discrimination laws. So he's full of dung as per. Wit next 100m runners want to race against the women cos the can't catch usan bolt.

I can understand why every body cites cardiff and swansea, but wrexham, newport, colwyn bay and merthyr all play in england as well . and the grass is not always greener on the other side . bangor, barry, newtown, rhyl and caermarfen have all been members of the fa and left to go back to the welsh fa . so your boss should not just be asking for the removal of the big two, if they go, all six go. so that's you alienated most of wales . but no one likes you, you don't care eh.. shammy

C.G has just thrown his dummy out of his pram. He like a lot of us may not like the proposed set up and remember that is all it is at the moment, Rangers will not lose out of it they will be crowned champions should win the fourth teir and move up to third teir it will still be the same time space till we are back at the top but it won't be the SPL as he wanted all along, the only losers will be the champions and runners up of the top league who have agreed a cut in prize money for the sake of lower divisions. As for the fans we did not complain when Falkirk won the first division but were not allowed into the SPL so that's happened before.
He was shouting for changes he is getting them hopefully and with a bit of luck and goodwill from all sides something will be worked out which will suit us all, and let us get back to our rightful status in Scottish Football. There is no point in ranting on about trying to remove Welsh clubs from the English leagues as that is historical and also the fact that Wales is a principality of England. By doing this he is alienating us from a lot of poeple not just the Welsh. As far as taking UEFA to court has he not learned his lesson it could cost us. We had to agree to pay the European teams the money we owed them or we would not have got a licence to play in Scotland or anywhere else. So his slant on it that he is doing it out principle is rubbish he had to pay them or we would have been playing nowhere. Now he wants out BEWARE!
Bobby

3) competitive sport is of course subject to sexual discrimination laws, don't be stupid. There are no laws for some and none for others.

I work in the Insurance industry which is in turmoil because European courts won't allow sexual discrimination in how a company calculates premiums. And when the European Courts get their teeth into something they don't let go. There is a very real chance that they would back Greens case.

12 Jan 2013 09:56:59
Have you seen the TV advert for mini Babybel ? The wee boy is wearing a Celtic Top . Subliminal message or Product placement ? Either way we have to stop this stuff happening . I propose an immediate boycott of Babybel products . " Bluebells are blue - Babybels are banned"

Aye and have you seen the ad for that cough medicine that's so obviously a tim he's carrying about with him.

Only a very strange person would think the way you think and only a mother / expectant mother watches baby adverts which are you. Please find another site for your pathetic post and leave ours for sensible football posters.jaz.rtid.

If this is what the mentality of the scottish public is nowadays, I`m glad i escaped the mad house years ago.

For god sake pal grow up. Do we now boycott charities if we seee a kid with a Africa with a football top on. Just for the record as a Rangers fan I gladly give to SCIAF as the do a lot of good work. Please stop the stupid posts .and eds you should be ashamed of yourselfs for letting this post through.

@1 cracker, garlar07

Is that you Charles?

Blueice

@2 mini-babybels are small cheeses not a baby product . Are women, pregnant or not, not allowed to post on this site ?

To no 7 my mistake and I apologise if I have offended anyone but I am sure you understand the point I was trying to make.jaz.rtid.

To all the poor souls who took the OP seriously and didn't realise it was a wind up, I pity you, I really do.

Reply number 2 its a banter site so chear yourself up he's only having a laugh

12 Jan 2013 08:15:51
I really don't know what all the fuss is about with teams trying to get into Europe, outside the old firm none of them actually get by July.

Even at that both rangers and celtic have been eliminated in july

OP, I guess you're a glass half empty kind of person.
So teams who qualify for Europe should not take there place? I'm sure that those involved with teams who get to play in Europe don't go into it expecting to fall at the first hurdle.
You've got to be in it to progress.
Al

12 Jan 2013 00:57:08
rangers supporters wanted div 3 so bad they are getting it twice lol

Don't speak to soon longmuir has still got to sell liewells idea to sfl clubs and needs a 75% yes vote which I'm sure that won't happen Charlie green might not have a vote but I'm sure he'll get enough sfl chairmen to vote no cause it is a tried and failed system

And Celtic wanted silverware so much they stop at nothing to get rid of Rangers :)

@1 maybe the other SFL clubs are happy having you in the lowest tier with them they cite his the proposed changes through!
And rangers counting on any other clubs chairman supporting them after all of greens rantings and carrying ons? I think you all need to have a reality check and realise the damage that this person green is doing to your new club's reputation!
Making new friends? Your havin a laugh!

Why bring lawell into this Celtic lose more money out of this plan we are going along with it as most clubs are in favour of it so it WILL go through im afraid
DB77

DB77. Are 75% of the clubs in favour of it though, as that is the number required to push it through? It is far from guaranteed as most of the club chairmen don't know the fine details yet and some haven't even been given the briefing document. It is far from a certainty as things stand and will be decided by voting rights, positions on the board etc which have not been made public yet.

Brian

p.s. Personally I think Lawell does an excellent job for your club so I doubt he would just go 'along with it' unless it benefited his own club first and foremost in some other way. He strikes me as too shrewd for that.