Rangers Banter Archive March 12 2018

12 Mar 2018 21:08:28
Rossiter? Sadly I doubt we will ever get to see him play at the level he was supposedly capable of. Jack has had approximately 3 months as a Rangers player. He will come good. Again the sheep at Ibrox he was immense if I remember correctly?

12 Mar 2018 22:43:16
Rossiter will never play for us longer than 2/ 3 games. Injury prone or bad genes. It's sad but we are PAYING 10 K A WEEK FOR NOTHING. Sell sell sell or give away and include cardosa.

12 Mar 2018 19:26:39
We need a tough tackling midfielder? Surely Ryan Jack is that player. He can be out DMF for years to come. If he can avoid the red cards that is.

12 Mar 2018 19:48:17
He's supposed to be that player but I've never been convinced by him rather have rossiter sitting deep with doc box to box

12 Mar 2018 20:00:03
I don’t rate him, hope I’m proved wrong but I can’t remember a good performance with him in the midfield. Will be a useful squad player but nothing more IMO.

12 Mar 2018 21:05:35
Are you serious Jzer? Rossiter can't stay or get fit. Terrible signing. Has offered nothing for 10 k a week. Slaughter me all you want but Ryan Jack can get on pitch. Dorrans will add to our midfield.

13 Mar 2018 10:02:04
Rossiters latest injury has nothing to do with his previous injury in was a rolled ankle! My point was that rossiter (fit and playing games) playing as a deep lying midfielder and doc going box to box with dozza playing playmaker role! Is a cracking midfield! Obviously rossiter has a lot to prove fitness wise and that he can stay injury free but he's getting there and given his talent we're in no position to give him away

12 Mar 2018 19:01:17
Still think we should be getting more from windass. He and Goss were passengers yesterday. We're not far away tho from mounting a challenge, beef up the defence and we'll be up there with them soon.

12 Mar 2018 19:50:47
Bates was a miss when he had to go off yesterday, but he's the best of a bad lot.

We're not a million miles away tho, but get rid of the Herrera, dodoo, cardoso, Miller, Martin, nico, MOH, hallidays.

We'll have mcrorie dorrans Jack Wallace and rossiter back.

Buy in 3-4 quality players, 2x defence 1x no10, 1xgoal scorer.

Easy!

12 Mar 2018 21:14:08
Bates is the worst of a bad lot fed up with people saying we lost poor goal because bates was not playing lol he has the odd good game yes but when you look over all at are defenders he actually makes the most mistakes.

12 Mar 2018 17:30:37
I enjoy the crack on here . wish the guys would cut Murty some slack.6 weeks ago we wouldn't have dreamt ab out mounting a challenge.15 mins in we had to change centre backs
Cardoso has hardly kicked a ball
Murty stuck with that. Not his fault morelos missed sitter at end or the defensive errors
As for substitions at the sending off he probably didn't foresee the horrific quality of crosses into box by players who normally deliver quality balls.
We are getting there.
Give the guy a break.

12 Mar 2018 17:42:17
Cardosa can't kick a ball. Cummings would have buried that gift.

12 Mar 2018 18:02:20
My dug would have buried it he misses for too many chances

12 Mar 2018 15:33:49
I would totally agree Murty not a Rangers manager but who is? There are no obvious choices out there save De Boer who personally would grab and plead to manage Gers. Murty as much as I like the guy was major factor yesterday and think his tactics found wanting.

12 Mar 2018 15:46:55
Got to disagree with that, he was guilty of not changing it as soon as they went down to ten men and he was let down badly by a number of players yesterday, Morelos, Windass, Goss, Tav, Alves, Cardoso, Foderingham all played below par in my opinion and they will need to be better to win this semi final. For now I’d get Cummings in the team and try to build momentum again. Murty cannot magic defenders out of thin air and that will need addressing in the summer.

12 Mar 2018 17:58:02
Wilson should never have left. Hopefully Bates signs new contract. Don't rate Alves or cardosa. Although Alves had not bad game I thought.

12 Mar 2018 13:36:48
I considered posting something before yesterday’s game but never got around to it. I know it was a sore one to take and I like the rest of you couldn’t quite believe we’d lost at the end of the game, but I think that in itself tells us something about how far we’ve come in a relatively short space of time.
I was seeing a lot of ‘over confident’ posts in the last few weeks talking about how we were going to win by 3 or 4 goals and how we could go on and win the title, which, quite frankly was just wishful thinking. There’s a difference in trying to be confident and in setting up unrealistic expectations, as now that the game is over and we have no chance of winning the league, those that had convinced themselves that we did, are starting to question Murty and the team. Which considering where we were a few months ago is pretty ridiculous. How many of us just a few months ago when Pedro was sacked and we couldn’t get a manager would of given anything just to finish second and to have a team worth watching again. In s few short months Murty has come in, rebuilt the team (again) got us playing attractive flowing football, got us winning again, got us into second and the cup semi and (think about this) got us believing we can beat Celtic, something we’d not looked like doing in years.
Also we have to remember that unfortunately we are still a fair bit behind in terms of resources. They have a first team squad made up of mainly internationals or players costing millions. We have 5 players with full international experience (2 injured most of the season and 2 in their late 30’s who have also missed large parts of the season) .
Most of us said only a few weeks ago that if we finish second this year and maybe win the cup then it would be a good season (personally considering the first half of the season I think that would be a tremendous result if we manage both of them, even finishing second would be progress from last year) Winning the league this year was never going to happen and we can’t lose sight of that, we need to stay behind the team for the rest of the season, secure second and give it our all in the cup. The improvement over the last 2 or 3 months has been huge but we can’t start losing sight of where we have come from and how hard it has been to get back here. Yes yesterday was really sore to take but the fact it was so unbelievable that we lost is a far cry from previous old firms under Pedro and warburton when sometimes it was a case of how many we might lose by!
Yes we need better centre backs, yes Morelos is still young and learning and misses some sitters but his overall play is improving game on game and Murty and Allen will know where we still need to strengthen. We have to remember we are still building a team, we’re not the finished article, but for the first time in a long time (best part of 6 years) we do seem to be heading in the right direction.

12 Mar 2018 14:39:21
Really well thought out, terrific post Ger78!When you take in closely what you've posted here, you're absolutely bang on the money!

12 Mar 2018 15:21:54
We had a good enough squad to challenge at the start of the season so don’t think it a big achievement to be second. We haven’t bet anyone even half decent to get to the semis of the cup, defeats to Hibs, Kilmarnock, St Johnstone and Hamilton is progress? Yeah we added more quality in January and look better but some results have still been poor, if we had won they games where would we be? We are still underperforming with the squad we have sorry to say, look at the Hibs games they played us of the park at ER but we luckily took the points then gubbed is at Ibrox and Look at kille and what there doing and then compare our squads. Not been good enough simple as that not as if Pedro left us in a relegation battle

12 Mar 2018 15:54:52
Great post Ger78. We feel bad today because we should have won. First time in a long time we could have and should have won. Massive improvement but still some way to go.

12 Mar 2018 16:10:53
I’m sorry, we clearly didn’t have a squad good enough to challenge at the start of the season, hence having to bring in 5 first team starters in January and drop or ship out 5 or 6 of the players brought in in the summer, and we also clearly didn’t have a good enough manager to challenge either.
I agree it isn’t good enough to lose to the likes of st johnstone, Kilmarnock or Hamilton, that’s why I was apprehensive and didn’t want to get carried away before Sunday’s game, we’re far from the finished article. I also said we have improved over the last 2 or 3 months, ie since January where we had only lost one game prior to yesterday, a game that really all things considered we could of win if it wasn’t for those defensive frailties yet again (that as I stated I’m sure Allen and Murty are painfully aware of) . We also have to remember we went into yesterday’s game without the availability of 3 defensive midfielders (Jack, Rossiter and McCrorie. yes I know he’s a defender but can also play there) and I’m sure if any had been available would of started. You can see that the team that played yesterday is good enough to beat most spl teams however when we come up against better teams such as Celtic and hibs our defence requires more protection but currently all three players that can play there are out.
I am not saying that we are the finished article or that we are good enough yet, in fact I kind of stated that we aren’t yet good enough but that we are finally looking like we are heading in the right direction (and by that I’m talking about the last ten games or so where other than one goal loses to hibs and Celtic, both games where if it wasn’t for small margins we could of won, we have looked much better)
What would you rather? That we bin Murty, bring in another manager to start all over again with their own ideas and own players, create another whole new team and start again? Do you think that would work? And where would all the money come from to do this? We may not like this but we have to remember that two years ago we were in the championship, we’re not going to go from there to wining the spl in 2 years whilst also having to constantly rebuild the team AND the club itself. I lived through the 80’s, 90’s and 00’s when we were winning most things and had some world class players and it was wonderful but we also know where it got us. We unfortunately are now in the position that Celtic were in during those years and it took them years to rebuild and get to where they are now, during which times they regularly finished 3,4 or 5th in the league. I wish we could wave a magic wand and be back winningbleagues and cups but unfortunately that ain’t going to happen.

12 Mar 2018 17:31:17
Well said mate th journey continues wer on th right path n nearly there. Obviously very disappointing result yesterday but was th first propper competitive old firm in years on to th semi n hopefully first major trophy in 7yr

12 Mar 2018 17:54:54
Well said Ger78, both posts👏. Onwards and upwards.
Keep Believing

12 Mar 2018 17:56:44
A very considered post there Ger78.

I posted on Friday that the braggadocio being displayed by some on here ahead of the game was all about pure emotion running amok and that some of those same guys would turn on Murty and the team if we did not get a result.

However, I have been pleasantly surprised by the overall tenor of posts post match ie it has not been one of pure destructive venting. whilst fans are understandably hurting there is recogntion from most that things on field are definitely progressing.
There is general agreement on areas of the team that still need attention ie central defence.

Maybe too there was a case on Sunday for Murty not being so expansive and congesting the midfield. but I am not going to pillory a manager setting up his team to try be playing attacking, expansive football.

Maybe. just maybe we can end the years of hurt in that semi final?

12 Mar 2018 11:43:19
So much to say after yesterday. Such a sore one, haven't felt this bad about a football match in a long, long time. Hurting doesn't cover it.

Hopefully Dorran's and Mcrorie will be back for the semi final.

Goss is a great wee player but I feel he was caught out yesterday, i'd play Dorrans and Docherty if possible. Dorran's was scoring and creating in a dysfunctional Pedro team, he'd do well in Murty's side.

Mcrorie and Alves at the back.

He might start Cummings as he has started every other cup game.

12 Mar 2018 14:51:13
Mccrorie is badly missed. Energy he brings would have been useful yesterday as that joke cardosa is shocking. Thought Alves was alrite. Did well in the air. Very concerned Bates not signed up yet.

12 Mar 2018 11:20:56
I've slept on it and still can't decide if GM is the man to take us forward but then who could have done much more in the same time frame
I think we should give him next season that's a few windows to see how we do biggest difference yesterday was the quality they had on the bench we had JC but used him too late
I hope we don't piss this boy off and he goes because if you can't get in ahead of Morelos after a hatrick the week before there's an issue he's got that swagger that I hate to say broon has
Missed a real chance yesterday.

12 Mar 2018 11:57:59
His hatrick was against a team that have been poor in the league below though. Cummings did not deserve to start ahead of Morelos

12 Mar 2018 13:18:24
MikeGer. your right it was against a team struggling a league below, but that’s the same team Morelos couldn’t score against so let’s not devalue a hat trick scored by Cummings. My gripe yesterday was bringing Cummings on too late, think Murty missed a trick by not going for it after the sending off.

12 Mar 2018 13:24:20
I don’t think he is the man to take us forward. He was far too slow to bring on Cummings. He should have been brought on as soon as they went down to 10 men. Instead he did nothing until we were 3-2 down in contrast after going down to 10 men Rodgers brought on a striker. If the roles had been reversed no way Murty would have been as bold that’s the difference between the 2 managers and unfortunately for Murty or any other Manager of the club you will be judged against the Celtic boss

12 Mar 2018 15:03:39
I just can't fathom, why some of our supporters, in certain social media sites, want our manager graeme murty SACKED, because we lost to them yesterday! Common guys, we need to look carefully, at the much bigger picture here! Since caixinha was sacked in october, murty imo has improved us significantly, we without question are a much improved team! The optimisim that we could beat celtic yesterday, tells you the big strides we've made, with of course more improvement needed! Graeme murty imo should be given the rangers manager's job permanently, as he's without doubt proved, he can continue to improve the team and bridge the gap to them! Graeme murty remember is learning within this massive job himself and i for one only see him getting better and better, growing fully into, what's a massive job being manager of the famous institution, we call the famous glasgow rangers! I just like all other bears yesterday, came out of ibrox very disappointed yesterday! They were there for the taking without question! Murty imo did make the mistake of not putting cummings on, as soon as they went down to ten men! But that doesn't mean he should be SACKED, behave yourselves! Its a night and day improvement from october 'till now, with much more improvement to follow, for the remainder of this season and into next, with graeme murty as our manager! He's a still very inexperienced manager who'll only get better and better! Let that be with us!

12 Mar 2018 15:50:11
Supercooper

Murty has only been given the job until end of the season and I don’t think he is the right man to take us forward so it’s not a case of wanting him sacked I just think after this season they should go for someone else

12 Mar 2018 17:11:08
ArthurD, with all due respect mate, obviously not referring to you in particular, i can honestly assure you that on some social media websites, some of our supporters stated they wanted murty sacked as rangers manager!

12 Mar 2018 17:48:45
Graeme Murty deserves the job. Nobody can deny that there is an improvement since he and Nicholl have worked together. My only concern with him is he will not use subs till round the 70 min mark but he's learning all the time and if we don't take him somebody else will.

12 Mar 2018 10:55:22
Now I'm calmer, in retrospect don't think midfield is an issue but a ball playing CH a must. Tic waltzed thru our defence at times and it was painful.

12 Mar 2018 11:18:43
MBW,
l think it's fair that we need strength in defence, l have been trying to think who would fill that void, we are miles ahead of where we have been, but, we are still shipping too many goals. That problem needs addressed in my humble opinion.
Just need to knock em out the cup folks

12 Mar 2018 15:59:51
Says it all that we have worse defensive record and conceded more goals in the league than Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen.

12 Mar 2018 10:03:13
MORELOS NEEDS DROPPED ITS NOT
JUST YESTERDAY
ITS ALL THEN SITTERS HE HAS MISSED BEFORE

CUMMIMGS HAS TO START NOW SORRY
YOU NEED TO BE CLINICAL INFRONT OF GOAL AND CUMDOG HAS THE ABILITY TO SCORE IN ALL GAMES

12 Mar 2018 10:40:40
Southsideger, i really like fredo morelos's all round game but tend to agree with you mate, that jason cummings deserves to start games up front for us now! You're correct, i also believe that cummings would score goals in any game for rangers! The guys a finisher alright, a natural goalscorer in my eyes!

12 Mar 2018 10:50:03
Regrettably midweek on this site I did say start Cummings instead of morelos as he misses too many chances! Gutted I was proved right. Cumdog needs his chance. Gap is closing. If we took our chances it may have been different. Certainly we shuda had a draw.

12 Mar 2018 09:45:27
Has anyone noticed how many goals fod loses when shots are hit from distance . He's the worst in the league . Also when he has a pass back he reacts very late . Eyesight issue i think .

12 Mar 2018 10:01:04
He needs benched and sold

12 Mar 2018 08:49:34
Morning Bears, gutted with the result yesterday and more so the performance after they went down to 10 men. The game for me hinges on small margins und ultimately quality finishing. Twice Morelos missed good opportunities and Celtic went straight up the park and scored either of these goes in and we have a third goal and we win the game IMO. The defending was shocking for all their goals and too many players were not good enough.

I thought Docherty and Murphy were both terrific on the day and if we can get Cummings, Dorrans in there playing at the same level as well as better from Tav Goss and John then we will give them a game or two before the end of the season!

12 Mar 2018 09:24:29
Bears, there was clear progress in Rangers first half performance today. However, in the second half, despite having long periods of quality possession in wide areas, our delivery is poor. So many crosses swung in by players who can’t lift their heads which went far too deep or did not get past the first defender. What happened to dropping a ball into the danger area or trying to pick out one of your own team - we lacked composure. Finally, I don’t believe Fotheringham commands his area, his distribution is poor, as a keeper he is soft, and why he was way off his line for both 1st and 2nd goals only he knows. Still, onwards and upwards and Murty must stay.

12 Mar 2018 09:24:34
I thought Declan John was our best player yesterday.

12 Mar 2018 10:43:22
I thought our best player yesterday was daniel candeias!

12 Mar 2018 10:56:39
Controversial, given previous weeks performances, but I though Goss was well of the pace and couldn't handle the atmosphere. Murphy and John first half were terrific, but when Cetic pulled back after going down to 10 men - they had no room to work. Docherty again looked good for his age/ experience and will only get better for it, he got lost in 2nd half when he was taken off man marking broon and forced to play in front to the defence after Bates went off. Tav / Candeias (aprt from goal) didn't do much and their crosses in 2nd half were woeful.
Game of 2 halves was never more apparent and we didn't adapt well when Celtic parked the bus.

12 Mar 2018 07:21:27
Here it comes all the negative made up stories in the papers and online it's laughable even rod getting thrown in as well 😆.