Rangers Banter Archive February 13 2016

 

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13 Feb 2016 20:50:27
I agree with a lot that's being said tonight but is it me or do some of you think, a lot of our players are taking it for granted there getting picked every week. I think we should be using our squad more dropping and resting player Waggy, Halliday, Wilson being examples something I know we're not used to, and Miller and King should have been on from the start!



13 Feb 2016 21:54:58
Hit the nail on the head, like how it was in the 3rd division, players knew they were guaranteed a game no matter how they play.



14 Feb 2016 02:57:25
I disagree and think people should calm down.
If they had been terrible all season or did not try my opinion would differ. Had the woodwork not stopped us early on then maybe the game would've opened up. Losing a goal was rubbish but not the end of the world. I, for one enjoy our style of play and look forward to playing a team who will attempt to 'play' football against us.



14 Feb 2016 10:50:30
I am not saying they are poor, just that they could do with a rest.



14 Feb 2016 11:10:13
All I'm saying is some of the team looked a bit jaded and let's be honest most of us could pretty much pick the team, if you know your being picked every week, I think done need resting and subbing the bigger players doesn't do them any harm!



13 Feb 2016 20:02:39
Stubbsy looked shattered after the game, he could hardly string a few words together, this will trouble them more than us, they will go on a downward spiral now, jambos will hub them and they will drop more points, I recon we will be 11 points clear by end Feb and that's with hibbos playing same amount o games, good times.



14 Feb 2016 01:54:30
To be honest stuzo we are struggling to beat teams. We shouldn't be relying on other teams dropping points. We only have one game plan and every team we play knows what it is hence why we struggle to break teams down. Yes we battered alloa but only scored once. Unless we adapt our play ie, corners, crossing, having someone in the box then we will also drop points. I'm over the moon with mw and what he has done but its also a bit of a concern that he hasn't adapted tactics considering we all know what hasn't been working for weeks.



14 Feb 2016 06:43:24
Yeah I agree coldo, but it's still early. I watched the hibs game and their squad has been together a lot longer so should be pressing more but they are lacking more than us so with a few tweaks and a change in tactics we will not be far away. If hibs didn't have mcginn they would struggle badly, that's how vulnerable they are. Some games are like that, I can remember hibs and hearts coming to ibrox when we had the greats and beating us 3-0, sometimes it happens, it football.



13 Feb 2016 19:19:56
well all I can say is thanks goodness for Livingston, we got out of jail big time today, now for what its now worth, get a life and sort this corner kick and shots off target thing, its getting monotenous AND embarrassing.



13 Feb 2016 19:49:05
We've scored 3 goals in the last 4 games and our finishing has been woeful. Waghorn had a shocker and should have been subbed at half time. Our right back is a better headerer than our no.9. Could have/ should have scored 10 today and yet we're left celebrating Livingston. I agree we need to sort out the shots off target thing right away because the signs are there and we'd be daft to pretend otherwise.



13 Feb 2016 20:04:48
How many crucial goals have we lost from a set piece delivered with menace into our penalty area yet we continue to take them short. There must be someone in the team who can deliver quality into the box.



13 Feb 2016 20:33:38
Just listened to Kenny Miller on post match interview. The guy is a fantastic ambassador for our club and just talks sense. He looks and sounds 100 % a future Rangers manager. Sounds like we should have scored double figures, but I agree re the corners that we need to get an end product. Never heard of a team getting 23 corners and not scoring. Another game gone and no loss of points to nearest rivals. That's a positive.



13 Feb 2016 21:28:04
Surely we must start drawning some teams up the park by playing a bit deeper and utilise our speed. Its like mission impossible every week with 8 defenders in the box.

I hope there is more to come from ohalleron although he can beat a player or two he wasn't managing to play the ball into dangerous areas too often. I think we could play tavs as cf if we need a goal. He would hit the target more often than not. Dunno if we have any cover at right back tho.



14 Feb 2016 09:52:26
Yes Our corners do not produce the return of goals they should. Many have a very short memory of just how poor our football was last season. MW has had 7 months to shape a squad and we are a net 5 points clear as it stands. I think we have real progress. We have no Devine right to win every game.



14 Feb 2016 16:01:26
Wee bill, last week you were slating people on here for being negative. Now you're being negative. Why the change of heart? The things you claim are embarrassing are exactly the things you were defending last week. The flaws in the team and style of play have been obvious to most of us for weeks.



14 Feb 2016 16:02:40
Mols, we should be able to beat alloa at the top of ben lomond.



15 Feb 2016 00:25:29
Coldo I totally agree but we did not beat them. I get as frustrated as the next fan with the lack of clinical finishing but on balance I'll take where the team and club are this weekend. We are making progress compared to the state of the club a year ago.



15 Feb 2016 01:25:27
I agree to mols. Our club is in a much better place. Its tactics that frustrate me mate. We need to adapt our game to counter teams that park the bus. Passing square balls and coming short won't do it. We need a 9 and a 10. Ie 10 comes short to link play with mid and wingers, 9 hangs in the box. We shouldn't be playing with a def mid. No need to.



15 Feb 2016 06:11:14
Is that Sydney Devine?



15 Feb 2016 09:52:58
Good shout Tomtom. Yer showing yer age though. Now I can' t get Tiny Bubbles out of my head.



13 Feb 2016 19:16:14
From today's games, two things are abundantly clear in my opinion:

1. We desperately need a proven number 9 for next season, perhaps a back up too.

2. Hibs are perennial bottle crashers. They should have had all the incentive. No result so a lucky escape for us today. Livi perhaps unfortunate not to get all 3 points.

LLG.



13 Feb 2016 20:10:56
Been saying for weeks that we need a penalty box goalscorer. Corners are a joke. Surely mw is clever enough to work that out for himself. Its been going on for weeks and always the same outcome, nothing! Don't get me wrong tho difference in the team and staff etc is night and day, but really, change of game plan needed.



13 Feb 2016 19:14:04
Everyone calm down its not all bad just ask Stubbs lol.



13 Feb 2016 19:38:09
Def got out of jail. Livingston had same problem as us ie couldn't put ball in back of net. Hibs were poor and they are there for the taking if we get our act together. We have got to start putting these chances away.



13 Feb 2016 19:09:40
watched the peterboro west brom game during the week and its no different than us against alloa. tight parks and buses parked with passion aplenty from the opposition. no panic here as we dodged a big bullet today.



13 Feb 2016 19:21:54
Better to be lucky than good. Let's hope today was a wake-up call.



13 Feb 2016 20:10:47
The only positive I'm taking from today other than the Livi result is at least every time we've dropped points this year we have played the team off the park. Defo need a out and out striker for next year. Waggy needs a rest.



13 Feb 2016 21:34:21
Recbob, we are now on the same page. I was criticised for saying we needed someone, other than Waghorn, to score goals regularly. Anyone that has played football, at a reasonable level, knows that even prolific goalscorers, lose form, get injured or it just doesn't fall for them, so a stand-in is essential.
Maybe a wee tweek of our tactics would help, now and again, like an occasional cross into the box, not a McCoist punt tactic, but a winger crossing a ball from the bye-line or maybe just varying a corner.



14 Feb 2016 05:14:01
I don't recall Falkirk being played off the pitch when Rangers dropped points in December.



14 Feb 2016 09:46:41
You's were.



13 Feb 2016 20:07:27
Billyb though I sort of agree with what your meaning, it's surely better to be good than lucky.



14 Feb 2016 20:44:36
You obviously didn't watch the game recbob. Your goalkeeper made 3 world class saves.
Ours also made a few good saves but to say you played us of the pitch is blinkered .



13 Feb 2016 19:08:59
well tht helped us on or slip up cheers liv lol.



13 Feb 2016 17:33:44
Well that was pants. Need a number 9 for next season most definitely. Still feel we have enough to see us over the line but on performances like that I may invest in a catering pack of bum roll. Oh well on to Tuesday then.



13 Feb 2016 17:43:25
PaB, I hope your right mate, I really do, I think the same but being a realist here, look at how they Hibees will see this, game now, against second bottom, game in hand, could get them to within 2 points, a home game against us, potential with there tails up could put them 1 ahead!

Depression! 😤 😡.



13 Feb 2016 17:58:15
Hobos are 9 points behind with 2 games in hand - and we have a much better goal difference -.



13 Feb 2016 17:59:53
We're 9 points clear waggy so at the very worst we'd still be 3 points clear with a far better goal difference so its nowhere near squeaky bum time mate.



13 Feb 2016 18:24:44
Cheer up lads, remember where we were last season. We have come a long way in a short space of time. We are not the finished article yet but as long as the investment is there, another one or two windows should sort that. I take on board what y'all say but the season won't be won or lost on head to heads. Plenty points to still win and lose by both teams. Chin up, it's great to be a Bear!



13 Feb 2016 18:39:19
Yes Martin waghorn is going through a sticky patch but for people to say he is mince is quite astonishing. Calm down. Also is there's folks on here genuinely think hibs will win every game between now and the end of the season because I don't? They have already gave them 6 points for the games in hand. Behave yourselves.



13 Feb 2016 19:02:02
Waggy

That's has got to be the most childish post I've ever seen that's meant to be serious.

We are 9 points clear, huge goal difference and already u have hibs as winning the 2 games in hand and beating us at home, get a grip.



13 Feb 2016 19:15:12
Just watched Hibs draw at Livvy. They were mince and lucky to get a draw. Livvy hit the bar and missed an absolute sitter at the end. We play Alloa off the park, hit woodwork 3 times, get a draw and the world is ending. I'd be worried if we weren't making chances. I thought O'Halloran, Forrester and King were really good today. Once these chances start going in we will be fine. We have by far the best squad in the division with goal threats from everywhere. It's as you were with 12 games to go. Looking forward to Tuesday. Come on Gers!



13 Feb 2016 19:23:29
There you go. There will be a few more slip ups I dare say. Every team is now fighting for points, especially those at the bottom. When teams come to give us a game you see a very different Rangers, one that can play an expansive game with pace. All we can do against this kind of football is get to their 18 yard line and try to break them down. It's that type of "negative football" that got us to a UEFA final don't forget and it's the type of football that will secure points and league status for some teams. The league is ours to lose and I can't see that happening.



13 Feb 2016 19:38:49
Aye nae bother wee chubs! It might have been a post of frustration, but childish?! Too far! that's wat a couple of beers does to ye. I did miscalculate the points, (stupidly) but glad I did cause I feel better for that now knowing that we r in a better position than I first thought, I need to get the "gutties" aff when I'm counting!



13 Feb 2016 21:40:59
Exactly the point I make regularly on here jayc1204,a good few rangers supporters have very short memories and always pain a picture black and white and to hell with in between, they have tunnel vision and never look at the whole picture as to how certain things within our team happen and how players can't do brilliantly EVERY week, to say martyn waghorn should be binned because of a temporary loss of form is absolutely absurd, he's certainly NOT mince and one of the main reasons we'll win the championship league title.



14 Feb 2016 07:58:05
I completely agree Warbs. Waggy is trying so hard it's hurting. Every player - even the greats - will go through droughts like this. To say he should be binned is beyond belief. Yes, give him a rest by all means, but remember we would not be in the position we are if it hadn't been for him. All I'm asking is give the guy a break! The goals will come again!



13 Feb 2016 17:16:48
I said already we should have invested in a striker not just for this season but some one whom
would leed our line for a few seasons
and I was convinced MW had the pitch as an excuse up his sleeve
now we go to rugby park on Tuesday
I have arranged to take a day off but now I wish I hadnt.



13 Feb 2016 22:23:20
Why do you even support Rangers?



14 Feb 2016 12:53:17
Don't go to game and tell your work on Monday you don't need holiday now, what's the problem?



13 Feb 2016 17:13:31
Right here we go:

We have been lucky in the last few games with a 1 nil win v Falkirk, 1 nil against Raith, by not taking chances, did we not learn anything from these two games? And the Killie match, throw that in as well.

You can have 80% possession all day but if u can't compose and really hurt teams it will always come back and haunt, especially with our effort at defending that corner!

Simply put here, leave the field (even if it is a PITZ effort) with no regrets, not against Alloa, not against any team that we should be absolutely hammering.

We need to sort out what we r doing at corners, this shorty is not working, it is MW style, he's not budging on this, this is when we need players to challenge him, challenge the coaching staff, why can't Wilson or Kiernan, bully, nudge, just at least put in some sort of an effort into try and get something from a corner. I'm starting to think that scoring from a corner (straight no tippy tappy) is classed as cheating at Murray Park!

Not happy that with a game in hand and a game tonight we could be as close as 2 points only ahead!

Easy fix, add value on the pitch when it really matters, when the chips r down! Like we did against Hibs on the 28 of Dec!

Snapped!



13 Feb 2016 19:05:30
The 1 nil wins weren't luck, the only lucky part was that it was only one nil, how can you possibly expect to win every game with a cricket score when the opposition has everybody behind the ball?



13 Feb 2016 20:27:24
Easy with the players that were added to add value on and off the pitch.



13 Feb 2016 18:36:33
3 points actually! Not that it matters as I'm confident it won't even get that close between us and Hibs.



13 Feb 2016 17:12:38
Am a big warburton fan love the way he's got the gears playing but today don't understand why he went with waghorn McKay forrester and ohalleron there all wingers. We knew the pitch was going to be tight, ideal I thought for law or zelalem or both. Thought one of them would have been a better substitution. Missed some amount of chances maybe time to try young hardie up front. That's my thoughts guys what's yours.



13 Feb 2016 17:37:22
70 I agree fully, hardie needs a start! He's absolutely watering at the mouth for a game, but don't give the young guns a game, them park them for 20 plus games, give them a fighting chance.

That game today is a marker in the sand for something to change, style or set piece tactics, just get the ball in the box, after all that's where the goals are!



13 Feb 2016 17:53:53
think it shoulda been the perfect chance for hardie the day as it was the bottom side and have lost a lot of goals. woulda done waghorn the world of good sitting this 1 out as he's played a lot.



13 Feb 2016 17:12:36
I didn't see the game today but something like 70% possession and it ends 1-1! I'll say it again - play Hardie (and rest Waghorn) . Why was Ball on the bench? Can't afford another bad patch otherwise play offs here we come!



13 Feb 2016 16:55:19
we can't use the size of the pitch as a excuse. we should beat alloa on a 5 aside pitch with this team. this is what happens if u can't take your chances total crap. very disappointed with this result the day.



13 Feb 2016 17:00:50
The state of there pitch was an absolute embarrassment! Overloaded with pellets no wonder Scottish football's a laughing stock. Amateur sides have better pitches.



13 Feb 2016 17:02:32
Why do always try to walk the ball in, start shooting on sight.



13 Feb 2016 17:15:40
Yes, unfortunately as Davie1980 states, quite simply we are one dimensional. Look at the shots, look at the corners, and quite simply we have the system that we have. Another thing, it is easy to say, after the event, that the tactics were wrong, but, unfortunately, we have don't have enough flexibility on the system we play. And yet another thing, we will go nowhere with these tactics. oh sorry, we will, right down the pan.
Again, once things hit the fan, you can say " I told you so", but anyone who has ever played, at any level of, football, understands that once your main goalscorer goes off you need a plan 'B'. RANT OVER.



13 Feb 2016 17:32:57
pitch size was`nt an issue, poor finishing was, surely to early in the season for guys like Waghorn to be tired.

still months to go, so bad sign If they are already feeling the pressure froms hibs on their tails.



13 Feb 2016 17:59:16
yes but tht is wht will get used. the pitch is terrible and the size. we should beat them anywhere. to have as much shots most games and who cares about possession it doesn't win u games it's all about goals. time for wags to sit out next game as I think it will give him the kick he needs maybe a few others as well. as they think there place is guaranteed.



13 Feb 2016 16:52:42
To all these people that shoot down every1 that say we in a title fight and we need number 9.u all know who u are. luigi . warburtonfiftenth to say least. hit everywhere bar back of net bar 1.can we afford another year in championship.



13 Feb 2016 17:27:53
Doubting thomas we WON'T be another year in the championship! Oh ye of little faith! We missed a helluva chances today along with gallagher their goalie having a very good game, these things happen, at least we're making a lot of chances, would be really worried if we weren't making chances, on another day we'd have scored 6 or 7.



13 Feb 2016 19:05:31
9nce again warbs on another day. howmany times can we use this excuse. am watching hibs game now an only good thing today is it 0.0. We need more flexability. no 9 and diffrent tactics when things don't work.



13 Feb 2016 17:15:20
whats the problem, we know we have a fight on our hands and we need to step up to the plate hibs have the momentum at the minute.



13 Feb 2016 18:35:51
Same could be said every time we dropped points - on another day we could have beaten

1) Kilmarnock "5-0"
2) Falkirk "5-0"
3) Raith Rovers "5-0"

On another day - "we have a problem Houston" it is rarely another day for us!



13 Feb 2016 16:39:03
What is happening with corners. Shocking!



13 Feb 2016 16:12:53
See the narrowing of the pitch is helping alloa massively.



13 Feb 2016 15:56:59
Honestly man, whens MW goney drop waghorn, 15 shots by the post, 6 from him, that's not great, same old story when it comes to waghorn, if he ain't doing it through the middle, yeah, let's put him out wide right, if it's not happening for him through the middle or wide right, oh, let's play him wide left, been great this season for us, great player, but the guys shattered, get him dropped, don't be taken players off around about him to compensate for him, he hasn't scored in his last 5 outings, and mostly all the opportunities are fallen to him, get him off and get miller on! It should be at least 0-5 here, it's 0-0 through us and mostly waghorn not being at his best, I hope he scores, but it's terrible to watch, give the guy a break, get him subbed so we have a chance of getting somebody on the end of all his failures!



13 Feb 2016 16:49:04
Could be another year at least in the championship. Should have bought a decent striker in the last window. If Hibs win tonight were in big trouble because we can't put the ball in the back of the net.



13 Feb 2016 16:55:01
Jfr i totaly agree but let's see who shoot u down here. the usual people who shoot down anybody outside there view. we may j7st be in a title fight.



13 Feb 2016 16:56:09
I agree with you CM. Waghorn is mince. How often have we seen him scupper chance after chance. I would have played Miller from the start, instead we have dropped 2 points and Hibs will be well up for it tonight.



13 Feb 2016 17:37:36
Hit the bar 3 times. A few cleared off the line. Some of u guys need tae get a grip. The season so far we've played well. Some days it just doesn't go in. Happens to all teams. Calm down man.



13 Feb 2016 17:52:05
Don't get points by hitting woodwork or having shots cleared of the line. Only points matter.



13 Feb 2016 17:53:42
Boydy69

Sorry but this seems to be happening too much and people said the exact same thing last week against a truly awful Kilmarnock team. We seem to have the same statistics every week with a lot of shots at goal and a poor percentage on target. We also get a hell of a lot of corners and do nothing with them. Never known a team to be so bad when it comes to taking corners. Maybe it's you who should get a grip and realise Hibs ain't going away and their threat is very real. Stubbs identified striking as a weakness and got in a very experienced striker. Rangers needed a striker and didn't get one.



13 Feb 2016 18:10:19
Biffo. agree with you 100per cent with the corner situation. A think teams are quite happy to give us a corner as we do nuthin with it. As for strikers a think you'll find we're still top scorers which could count later in season.



13 Feb 2016 16:42:21
Disappointing

We have 19 shots 12 corners to date this afternoon and we can only score in 83rd minute!

Must get another goal scorer in place - I would bring back Hemmings ASAP.



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13 Feb 2016 17:08:15
I hate to say it but Warburton is beginning to resemble Ally in so far as not replacing players who are obviously not having a good day. W
aggy has needed a rest for the past 4/ 5 games and add to that, just how many of goals lost this season have resulted from Tav's total inability to tackle. How many critical goals have been from him simply throwing himself at the attacker. He is worth having on the park if he is scoring but that stopped a few games ago and as often as not it is ballooned over the bar when he does shoot.
MW is the man who is not resting players like Waggy and Tav so we can't blame them.
Rant over.



13 Feb 2016 09:41:52
I would like to think that Kane Hemmings is on our radar as a summer signing i'd be happy with that ahead of Nicky Clark tbh.



13 Feb 2016 10:22:24
NickyClark, so you don't rate Nicky Clark? I agree he hasn't stepped up to the plate since joining from QOS and it just shows again how much easier it is to play with no pressure. McCoist gave Hemmings a few chances and I thought he was poor. He may be doing it for Dundee now but coming back to Rangers, I reckon he'd pull a Clark and goals dry up. He's not up to being a Rangers player.



13 Feb 2016 11:53:31
I think Hemmings is a really good player he had a bad injury before and never really got a chance think he would score 20+ in our team.



13 Feb 2016 12:11:44
I say forget looking backwards at ex players and move forward here guys which I'm pretty sure warbs will do anyway, you're bang on the money kfraser, its one thing playing and doing well for provincial clubs but a different animal altogether with the pressure at glasgow rangers, hemmings is doing really well at DUNDEE but I wouldn't bring him back to ibrox, fresh new players are what we need!



13 Feb 2016 14:52:46
some interesting posts above, since I don't have a crystal ball I would have no idea whether he would do a good job or not but to be fair to the guy, he struggled for us when we had probably the worst team in our history, the fans were on their backs a bit (not really bad but the atmosphere at times was oh no not again! ) and the off field stuff was a heavy burden for all - I don't think we can judge anyone too harshly under those conditions.



13 Feb 2016 16:56:54
Pressure is for tyres. if u let pressure get to u at any club not just rangers people.



13 Feb 2016 09:41:27
Does anyone know what the fee was for o'halloran? I know Celtic got 5k of it.



13 Feb 2016 12:34:57
Get the calculator out pal.



13 Feb 2016 13:23:17
Around the £400k mark, with add ons to come. Read it somewhere, may be guesswork on some journalist's part.



 
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