Rangers Banter Archive February 14 2017

14 Feb 2017 22:26:06
just been looking at are players contracts why on earth were we so hasty at giving some of these players new deals before we even seen how they will perform in the prem. for excample kiernen was offered new deal last summer then all this talk with tav and waghorns deals why was forrester deal so big and Halliday and holt signed new 3year deals they are under contract until 2020 what a joke it's clear as day they are not good enough for us in the prem let alone taking us to the next level where we should be by 2020 they will be way out there depths. This now makes it hard for new manager coming in who will want to shift some of this lot but it will be hard getting rid of them they have no sell on value what so ever. For a club that seems very slow getting things done at times why were we so hasty in signing these lot up.

14 Feb 2017 23:01:30
Hop Along Hopless Halliday no surly not, he's terrible and can't even sing

14 Feb 2017 23:23:13
Reckon we could get a couple hundred thousand for most of our duds which would probably get us back our money. I think we need to get behind them though because there's plenty of games still to play n maybe diffrent coaches and style could suit some

15 Feb 2017 03:06:50
That is pretty frightening actually because they will also be on good wages and that will make them difficult to shift!

A new manager might be able to improve Forrester and I wouldn't rule out us being able to sell Kiernan to an English Club and Waghorn has not yet signed a new contract. Tavernier could definitely improve with proper coaching. As for Halliday, we can only hope that he suddenly remembers that he playing for the team he supports and might actually give 100% for more than 30 minutes going forward. Quite frightening really although on the positive side Senderos and Hill finish at the end of the season.

14 Feb 2017 21:31:51
My biggest concern is, yet again, DK is in a dispute where someone else is wrong and he is in the right.
When the story came out about MW, it looked cast iron that he was the out and out bad guy, but as the facts start to emerge it gets a bit cloudier.
MW is not the loss, it is the prestige of our club that again is tarnished, yet again, and DK is integral in every bit of bad publicity.
And yet again we get his spin on the new manager ---" We'll get a stop gap -- then we will appoint the right man to take us forward" and " We will appoint a Director of Football. " He talks the talk, but never walks the walk.

14 Feb 2017 23:06:29
Fair comment about King although Warburton and Weir were clearly working their ticket! The fact that the club wants to appoint an person of integrity that is a winner thankfully suggests that Davies will be no where near the marble staircase when the new appointments are made but I suspect that even King knows that this time he has to invest in a quality manager that is credible and he has to find the funds to allow him to invest in the team.

15 Feb 2017 14:00:57
Agreed Tom, the board have now made a rod for their back now by telling us about appointing directors of football and a manager that can take us forward and they have been inundated with applicants for these jobs, only time will tell I suppose, but one things for sure we have to get these appointments correct because we just can't afford another setback at this point

14 Feb 2017 18:37:56
If Alex McLeish takes the reigns at Ibrox I expect his methods to help sure up the midfield as well as the defence. I remember the night we made the last 16 of the CL and big Bob Malcolm was used in a defensive midfield role against Inter Milan where he excelled.

Does anyone else think he may deploy such tactics as he must have identified Halliday as being Rangers weakness after watching the first 5 minutes of Sunday's win over Morton.

Could Wilson be used here or even the new boy Bates? None of our current crop can pass a ball like Boab right enough even although he was a bomb scare at times, but we need an alternative in this area of the park.

14 Feb 2017 19:29:17
Wilson is too immobile to play there unless we play a vastly different system

14 Feb 2017 19:29:53
Haha Boab Baresi. Remember the game well and bomb scare doesn't even begin to cover it!

14 Feb 2017 19:39:46
The biggest difference big eck will make is NO holding midfielder! It will be 442.

14 Feb 2017 20:56:09
I can't see where we are going to find the money for frank de boer. Not only that where are we gonny get cash for transfer kitty for a manager like him. Also can't see him working with someone above him as dof.

15 Feb 2017 07:48:05
McLeish played 4-3-3 then. His team was Def: Wattereaus, Ricksen, Andrews, Kyrgiakos, Murray. Mid: Malcolm, Feeguson, Namouchi. Str: Burke, Buffel, Lovenkrands.

15 Feb 2017 13:21:57
De Boer has always had a DoF to work with. It was Marc Overmars at Ajax. Continental managers have worked this way for many years and are quite comfortable with it, so why can't you see it happening?

14 Feb 2017 16:49:45
First time post guys and want to give my thoughts on a new manager for the rest of this season. in my view only eck would be willing to accept it for the rest of the season as the other candidates are in full time positions and with that said the only one with nothing to lose. thoughts

14 Feb 2017 17:07:42
and he'd probably do it for nothing but expenses, puts him in the shop window again.
Maybe just me but did he not look like somebodys creepy uncle at the weekend?

14 Feb 2017 18:23:49
Any employed and decent manager is going to cost a minimum of £ 1million. Gary monk at leeds. No chance. Why would he leave leeds who are chasing promotion to the premier league come?

Warburton and co will get compensation. Its only about how much so thete is maybe £500k or more already so King is going to go for an unemployed manager. No high profile manager will come to Rangers with all the uncertainty around the club. Ashley still in legal case. No transfer funds. Warburton exit.

King in South Africa with £17 mill in loans needing to be repaid at end of 2017 and probably more loans required. Definitely more required if funds are going to be available for transfers. How is this ever going to be resolved? Rangers are getting further in debt every year.

14 Feb 2017 18:36:47
Sounds good to me big eck in charge to the end of the season! I also like the idear of de boer taking over in the summer and MacLeish stepping up to director of football! It would make sense to tell frank de boer he's got the job which then he can look over the current squad and then start looking at players to add!

14 Feb 2017 12:58:49
If on Sunday I see a team that comes out preforms well and i see a manager who makes changes that change the way we play and hopefully for me a starting 442. Then why not let murty finish the season. Why waste money on McLeish or anyone else. Wait till end of season bring someone in with a transfer window open. There will be far more options for finding a new manager at that point.

14 Feb 2017 15:11:32
dont care who it is as long as the first thing he learns is not to pick a midfield with halliday and holt

14 Feb 2017 15:28:14
I think if we aren't going to appoint a manager until the summer and an interim comes in, the next manager has to be tied up before the summer. That way they can at least analyse and identify the players they want to bring in

14 Feb 2017 15:34:12
I think we should go wi McLeish and Barry Ferguson till the end of the season. If they improve this very average bunch give them the job long term. If things don't go well consider Derek McInness or Gary Rowatt.
I just think the De Boers is a non starter.

14 Feb 2017 17:32:26
I thought we really struggled on Sunday and had it not been for some bad misses from Morton then we could easily have went out. Halliday and Senderos were shocking and Holt did nothing.

Also thought O'Halloran looked very timid and never looked like doing anything. The team lacks confidence, direction and a leader. The mix up at the end summed it up. Really need to get someone in soon to try and pick things up

14 Feb 2017 17:44:46
Ross1990

Ferguson is already a manager and do you really think he would take an Assistant Manager job that could only last 3 months?

14 Feb 2017 18:02:18
Mcinness isn't coming, Gary rowatt never heard of him and frank de boer is coming in the summer in frank we trust.

14 Feb 2017 18:38:11
Ross1990, i like you think gary rowatt would be a decent shout for head coach but i'd like to mention imo a very good choice for head coach, garry monk the leeds utd manager! Monk is a terrific young coach already with experience!

14 Feb 2017 19:06:00
Stewie25
Appreciate that Barry is the manager of Clyde but u only get one chance at a club like Rangers and I think he would jump at it. There would need to be the carrot for both him and Big Eck that if they did well they would get the job on a permanent basis. Only my opinion but I would rather Rangers men coming in and don't think the De Boers are viable options if we have no transfer kitty.

15 Feb 2017 11:09:17
How can u say u only get one chance at rangers and then in your very next sentence put big eck forward

14 Feb 2017 10:54:54
As much as I hate to saying this due to my opinions of the guy. But Chris Sutton has actually been talking a lot of sense about Dave King in Recent days. The way he has handled this whole episode has been horrible. If Warburton's agent hadn't messed up and had that meeting, would we have just limped in with a manager king had no faith in and believed didn't want to be here in order for him to save a few quid?

Everyone is banging on about needing a manager who is a rangers man and does things the rangers way but was Kings statement slagging off Warburton publicly either if these things?

We we can all dream and have opinions about who we want to take over but the way we handled warburtons exit must put off some of the better candidates.

14 Feb 2017 11:58:38
There was a lot of press speculation that Warburton and Weir were under pressure and I can understand that considering other options of employment isn't any crime under the circumstances but Warburton always said he had a first class relationship and lines of communication with the MD Stewart Robertson and wonder why the need to involve an agent. At that level you pick up a phone, knock on the door, have a face to face conversation. Happens every day in every other line of business.

14 Feb 2017 13:48:18
it would have cost a lot to get rid of the 3 of them, an opportunity came up to do it for free, and he took that opportunity.

14 Feb 2017 21:14:07
Money will be available says Robertson.

14 Feb 2017 09:34:40
I can't believe we would want big eck back in the top seat. Have we all forgot the boring negative football. A team with 6 centre halves in the team and not to forget Marvin andrews up front surely not. I stand by the rangers team but under him it was hard to watch.

14 Feb 2017 10:11:04
if it gets us 2nd I'll take it.

14 Feb 2017 10:12:18
In difficult circumstances following Advocaat's overspending and against a good Celtic team under Martin O'Neill, McLeish still managed to win 2 league titles, 2 Scottish Cups, 3 League Cups and a treble! . He also made Rangers the first Scottish club to qualify from the group stages of the Champions League and we reached the last 16 before losing out on goal difference to Villareal. McLeish has passion, something he also had as a great player. Bring him in as Director of Football now with Kenny Miller stepping back as player/ coach until the end of the season. We could then look to bring in Frank de Boer in the summer with McLeish staying on as DOF.

14 Feb 2017 10:56:24
I would wager that the 'boring, negative' football would get us more points, and we would have a far better goal difference than +6. The defence would be tightened up too. For a short term fix, I think Mcleish is probably the answer.

14 Feb 2017 11:00:47
He also was in charge of Scotland when they beat France in Paris with the McFadden wonder goal which won't look bad on his CV.

14 Feb 2017 12:06:20
he was also in charge when we got beat off Georgia too!

14 Feb 2017 11:57:55
6 defenders is better than the none we have the now

14 Feb 2017 14:27:30
I don't get why people are against "boring" football, especially with the state we are in. The only thing that matters are results right now. Remember when hibs had mowbray and everyone said they played "the best football and most exciting style in Scotland", what did they win? Hee haw!

14 Feb 2017 17:38:23
Cullin72

I'm not so sure any manager could tighten up the defence with the players we have now. Senderos and Kiernan are atrocious. Hill's form has dipped and Wilson makes a lot of mistakes when he is actually fit. Maybe Bates will be better however it's difficult for him to come into a struggling side.

14 Feb 2017 20:13:13
Stewie,

He might tell them they are just defenders though, rather than thinking they are Brazil.

14 Feb 2017 07:20:19
Bears, I think the Frank and Ronald would be a great appointment if we had some cash. Truth is we don't. We need an experienced manger with an understanding of the scottish game to get us back on our feet properly. We are 2yr away from being a proper rangers team. We need someone who can make us hard to beat again. Let's face it, we need rebuilt from the centre backs forward and that won't happen in one transfer window. Back to basics and regain some respect once and for all. Fed up being the daily rebels main laughing point on the back page!

14 Feb 2017 08:50:42
Is it only me but have we become obsessed with ten in a row? We need to forget about it and them as hard as it will be and concentrate on building something that is sustainable and will be the foundation for years to come. We don't need a quick fix which will only lead to another false dawn. We had the chance 5 years ago but with all the other stuff in the boardroom it took a back seat, we need to get this right. Just my opinion.

14 Feb 2017 10:12:33
Marcus you are spot on! Some fans are an embarrassment with their need for instant-gratification! As I've been saying all along what's the rush to catch Celtic, unless our fans like watching us trudge about Europe getting humped!

14 Feb 2017 02:44:40
anyone else think that the board will lose this battle with warbs as not one of them actually tendered a resignation!

14 Feb 2017 08:06:20
Not at all James, Mark Warburtons agent is his representative. Warburton can be pissed off at his agent not Rangers, we are going on the word of his representative. It would be like me being in court and my Lawyer comes out with some crap that I never said, I could sue him for it, I couldn't sue the court or the judge if it led to a conviction. We don't know the ins and outs, no one from the board has said they have or haven't received a formal resignation from each of them. They do say however that they had a meeting with Warburton, Weir and McParlands Agent (representative)

14 Feb 2017 10:14:59
Onlyshow I really hope your right but what worries me is the fact that we allowed mw to do presser on Friday and Murty said he was asked on Friday nite to take team. Mw lawyers could ask why mw was still working for gers on Friday if he had resigned earlier in week hope not but think it could get messy.

14 Feb 2017 11:06:13
I find it impossible to believe that MW resigned that day so if this goes to the courts I would think he may very likely have a case.

If I was going to resign from my job I would be required to put it in writing and would think this would be the norm for football managers but that doesn't seem to have happened.

14 Feb 2017 11:20:38
Naz, if you personally went in to resign that is how it would work. However I'm unsure to how it works when you have a representative

14 Feb 2017 15:00:05
I don't think an agent can resign FOR you, you have to tender your own resignation. I see court trouble ahead.

14 Feb 2017 01:03:48
I don't know if anyone will agree with me but I am actually glad the MW is gone as look at all the key players he missed out on signing cause he was not ruffles enough and also all the young talent that he realist cause he did not think they were good enough has this club not learned to let talent shine since they scrapped rino and said he was not good enough and then became one of the best midfielders in the world.

14 Feb 2017 12:06:50
What key players did he miss out on?

14 Feb 2017 11:38:39
We didn't scrap Rino gattuso. Advocat wanted him to play a more defensive midfield role and he thought he was best attacking. After he went on to become one of the best defensive midfielders in the world he admitted that advocat was right and he should have listened.

13 Feb 2017 23:50:37
I want alex as manager for now then i want de boer as full time manager and i want 15 million for transfer funds . I got my wish last week about warburton.

14 Feb 2017 01:07:12
15 million more chance of getting a unicorn.