Rangers Banter Archive May 14 2012

14 May 2012 23:36:57
A few posters are saying that Ticketus will take what they can from cva, then chase Wyhte for the rest.
Ticketus have already started proceedings against Whyte to recover their money via his personal guarantee.
Does this not mean that Ticketus are in fact...not now a Rangers creditor.
They cant have it both ways....either Rangers owe them or Whyte owes them.

They are still creditors, they bought season tickets for Rangers. They supposedly have guarantees from CW, so they will go against him for any shortfall. If they get £3m from CVA they will then sue CW for £24m. Good luck with that!

That's true, IF they are chasing Whyte for the remainder.

However, Ticketus have already started proceedings against Whyte, in the court, that is stating that the debt is his, not Rangers.
Different if they had gained a sum for the cva then chased Whyte for the remainder, as he signed a PG, however, they havn't done this, and are chasing Whyte now, suggesting that the debt is his.
This would make sense why a cva may be achievable, as ticketus are off the scene.

@2

If the court decides that Rangers owe nothing then Tickets will indeed get nothing from the CVA. Trouble is, D&P have already had a ruling that Ticketus can be treated as a creditor rather than the owner of future season tickets after a CVA.

The debt is rangers'. However because of the nature of plc and ltd companies, I.e they can go bust like this, lenders often insist on a personal guarantee from directors. Whatever shortfall rangers have will be claimed from whyte. He must have a position where this is covered elsewhere or he would be mad. The court action against whyte is just so that when the sh1t hits the fan things are in motion.

If they are going after the shortfall - why dont rangers just give £1 and get them to chase whyte for the rest

theres more to that deal than meets the eye.

ryanrfc

14 May 2012 22:01:04
What a suspicious lot we have become. Last year Whyte was welcomed and as he completely took the piss, we are suddenly suspicious. After what we have been through it is no wonder.

But guys imagine whyte had not happened and that green was first buyer. I know he is not well liked by Sheffield united but that was many years ago.

The situation is very simple, they own it now, we have no choice, we either don't go back or we do and support them. If they f&ck it up then open season on them, but let's give them a chance, there is a possibility they will be the saviours.

The Blue Knights who I think most preferred did not come up with the cash. Kennedy is meant to be worth £250m, so he loses the deal for £3-£4m. One could say that he was not that interested.

Come on guys give the new owners a chance, because we have no choice.

14 May 2012 21:46:51
Why not invite HMRC to take a share in Rangers just as the taxpayer did with the banks. That way they'd not only be guaranteed their money over a period of time but would also have the chance to make some additional revenue from a shareholding over a set period of time.

You want hmrc to help your rebuild .....delusional ....for the first time in 20 years rangers will now need to operate within their means

Can you imagine the tic fans paying their taxes to hmrc 1873 ,the new tax forms logo would be a lion standing on its hind legs holding a britannia shield lol doug t.s.o

2/ WOW.thats the worst post of the day.Just as well you laugh at your own posts,cos no one else does.........green jhedi

No 3 ,thats because your a tic fan , hmrc gers shareholders ? definetly wouldnt go down well with your fans would it ,suppose its like when i was young there was a rumour tuppence went to the pope from every packet of senior service that was sold lol doug t.s.o

Does TSO stand for the senile one?

Naw no 5 it stands for the special one , or in your little mind ,trauma soon over ha ha doug t.s.o

Do you what i like about this site ,us gers fans get all sorts of insults thrown at us , but when we hit back tic fans dummys are flying everywhere , remember the golden rule ,dont dish it out if you cant take it back doug t.s.o ( the sensible one )

@7 your right mate beginning to think green jhedis getting even more paranoid me thinks related to mr green he is blue yodda

@8; Another funny,funny guy! Wish you would leave a name so i can see you live.........green jhedi

@ 9 BLUE YODDA you dont need to see me just feel the force

14 May 2012 20:41:00
Ok Bears who actually thinks Wednesday's SFA appeal really will get the transfer embargo overturned? I have to be honest and say I'm not very hopeful.

Will be disappointed if the penalty's are not increased for wasting everyone's time and money , which is an option by the way , fab1

I believe the embargo will be reduced, it may be that if we pay clubs in full they will cancel the problem. However as all creditors in Scottish law are treated the same, you cannot pay one and not pay the other. I think SPL will withhold monies due to us for finishing second. I don't know if that gets round the problem.
They may say we can only spend what we bring in, so if we sell Greegs and Davis for £5m we may be able to spend that.

Coming out and threating them didnt help one bit, cant seem them overturning it for they will show bullying works. as well if match fixing is the only thing worse then there is no way for it to over turn

SPL 2nd place is about £1.7m. They will withhold it for SPL debts only and perhaps SFA fines.

Considering they thought about withdrawing your license, but opted for the transfer ban, I can't see it being overturned and if it is it would be a farce showing that bullying works as 3.) said.
Al

Embargo will be thrown out. It was based on nothing after all.

14 May 2012 19:46:19
Just reading all the posts below from
"Rangers Tax Experts" regarding how
easy it is to get a CVA approved in
Scotland rather than England.
perhaps you will listen to one of your
own administrators Mr Whitehouse
who on friday, responding to the
Blue Knights said " HMRC do not
recognise football creditors, and it
would be CONTRARY TO STATED POLICY
TO AGREE THIS"
HMRC policy is that ALL unsecured
creditors must be treated equally, this
would have to be EVERY creditor agreeing
a pence in pound deal, but Hearts,
Rapid, Celtic etc MUST be paid in FULL
or SFA/UEFA rules kick in.
So RFC(IA_) are caught in middle of
this minefield with no place to go.
Please feel free to check this above
as no doubt we will get the usual
"timmy propaganda" but just remember
we "tims" have been ahead of this
whole story for months Timalloy

You have told us for over a year that we were going bust! were still heare bbb :o)

There is no legal minefield as far as paying the other clubs off Timalloy. This will be resolved sooner rather than later,if these bidders are serious.
The legal stuff comes later. But i think a deal will be done(unpalatable or not) Apparently these guys have been looking at the books for three months(strange one that) and are fully aware of the extent of RFC's financial problems,IF you are to believe D&P,that is.
How could Green's "consortium" have had access to the books three months ago?
Did they pay the £500,000 exclusivity fee, D&P wanted from TBK's?
Either D&p were just testing TBK's,or as some think,they're bent as Amir Khans bugle.
(Confused,but) Optimistic Bear

Thats what our friends at SFA are for they withhold league prizemoney to pay Football debts canny be accused of withholding from creditors if you never received payment lol Give Lawwell and Riley a handshake and a promotion

14 May 2012 19:26:36
Well the future holds a lot of unanswered questions and I believe that Charles Green who I met in 1997 is a hard nut and can be ruthless. First the good news, I do not think he is a crook in the same mode as the toe rag who took you for mugs last year.

The bad news is that if he intends to pay off all the football debts then a CVA will not happen. My reading is that a CVA has to be fair to all creditors and that you cannot pay some in full and others with pence in the pound.

As for the rush to know who the 20 backers are, I think this is unimportant. Most will never set foot in Glasgow and they are only investing money in a company to get tax relief and as they are the early investors they will be allocated shares at a low price. They will make a killing later on when Mr Green will have a share issue to the fans and public at a price higher than the 20 initial investors will pay.

No doubt one or two of the investors may be invited to sit on the board, but Mr Green will call the shots.

Having said all that it will take some time to become a threat again if no debt will be taken on board

Best of luck from Celtic Season Ticket renewer.

14 May 2012 18:25:09
hi guys,ooking for a bit of hell from some fellow bears...

i wrote on the tic site as well about this ... my mrs was working at ibrox over the weekend and when leaving was attacked by celtic fans on a supporters bus as it drove past ibrox on sunday... they lobbed things at her ....ice cream and actually hit her over the head witha can of beer afore starting up and driving off again.... the mrs needed stitches at hospital after it ... anyway im needing help from any fans that have maybe heard of something (we all know morons like this cant keep it quiet) so can anyone find out what supporters bus it was to help with police investigations. any celtic fans please help as well there is no way this was kept a secret and any decent fan would out them in a second.

cheers guys
Davie r

Dont know mate but there is a clip on youtube might help. no cctv at ibrox? fkn disgrace,hope your mrs wasnt too scared.ashamed of these clowns..........green jhedi

Hope your wife is ok m8, obviously the person was a coward who done it showing off to his mates , hope police get him.

The guys an idiot, hope the police get him an hope ur wifes ok

Vambo

You can't lob things from supporters coaches the windows don't open to allow that. Drinking beer on them isn't allowed either. Did they come outside the coach?

Davie r
Posted this on celtic site as well,so you would catch it.
As GJ says pictures on youtube#CELTIC DISGRACE(Reference only)of fans celebrating outside.
I was on my way home from work and passed Ibrox about 19:10. Two white 16 seater buses parked outside,one had grey/silver stars and red writing at the back. Hope this helps,and your fiance is okay.
Optimistic Bear

I hope your good lady is alright, and has no further problems as a result of this incident. I sincerely hope they find and prosecute these idiots to the fullest extent.

But lets not make out this is an isolated incident and it always Celtic fans. My mate is an aberdeen fan and he was glassed in a pub in aberdeen after a game against rangers. And i was attacked outside the Brazen Head by three rangers fans for wearing my Celtic scarf. Left me with a broken jaw and broken ribs.

Time for the police to police streets and pubs/clubs after problematic games.

DazzaBhoy

Hope the owner /driver of the bus loses his operators licence and is reported to scottish traffic area ( based in leeds ) doug t.s.o

Davie your Mrs is an accountant working at Ibrox on a Sunday. Anyone else smell a bit of craig whyte here Davie or is it Jacko? Ed007 just kicked your ass mate, just let it go and we won't mention it again.

14 May 2012 17:48:58
Well what a week end wounded bears..The Champions party,whilst up the road at perth did yous witness rfc last ever game??Zombie fc will be back as a newco,yet for some strange reason the BK were told from D&P a CVA wont be reached,now all of a sudden under GREEN & his mysterious consortium its reachable Hmmmmmmmmm..No sooner had the press gatherd then new HILARITY kicked in,trying to reach 1billion (lmao.pmsl)champions league every season!!Have told yous all along there be no CVA accepted,liquidation then newco,1 look at the guys previous trail of liquidated companies should start alarm bells ringing,but lets see how this new panto will pan out..stevo

We were told Whyte was fronting a consortium of wealthy quiet people behind him at one point.

Yes i did watch the title party in Manchester
City won the league,oh sorry did you mean
the won in the eastend of Glasgow,i nearly
forgot about that one with my worries about Rangers,notice youve got the same problem,cant remember which team you actually support,so much is your concern for others.

14 May 2012 17:26:25
Has anyone done a check on
CHARLES GREEN ?
is he fit a proper? Do RFC, D&F or SFA
need to make the checks?
The best offer is £12Million for RFC...
something not adding up folks...

The worst thing about all this is that it seems the sfa rules are tighter than the ones governing the businesses which many of us depend on. Surely the money green etc have paid doesn't even cover the tax money whyte ripped off. Hey! It's like cluedo ! Was it whyte or green ?

14 May 2012 14:27:26
Ed, Apologies for the length of this,but found it interesting.Article from the Irish Times.
In a statement on the club’s official website, joint administrator David Whitehouse said: “We are very pleased to announce that we have accepted an offer from a consortium headed by Mr Charles Green for the purchase of Rangers Football Club.
“Mr Green has secured, via a substantial financial commitment, a period of exclusivity to complete the purchase of the club and this is expected to be finalised at a creditors’ meeting on June 6th. The structure and quantum of the offer from Mr Green is such that it is acceptable to us as administrators and, having been in discussions with major creditors throughout the process, we believe this presents the best prospect of financial recovery for creditors.
“Mr Green, through a corporate vehicle, has entered into a binding commitment to inject funds into the Rangers Football Club plc so that the administrators can propose a Company Voluntary Arrangement which, if approved by creditors, will result in their claims being compromised for specific amounts and the company exiting administration free of the historic debt and with new owners.
“Work on issuing a CVA proposal has already started and will proceed with utmost urgency. If the creditors do not approve the Company Voluntary Arrangement, the agreement obliges Charles Green’s purchasing vehicle to acquire the business and assets of the club on agreed terms, through a ‘newco’ structure. It is Mr Green’s strong preference to achieve a CVA.
“We would like to thank Rangers supporters for their patience as a purchaser for the club has been found and hope they will now support a bid that has the capability to take the club forward.
“We would also like to thank the professionalism and dedication all the staff at Rangers have shown throughout the sale process. Furthermore, we thank again the Rangers players who made a major financial sacrifice to ensure the club could continue to function.”
Today’s news looks to have finally settled the long-running doubt over the Ibrox club’s future. They entered administration in February, and players agreed to defer wages up to 75% in order to keep the club going, while they have also been hit with a points’ deduction and a 12-month transfer ban, though they have appealed against the second of those sanctions.

Potential bidders have come and gone, with American tycoon Bill Miller being named the administrators’ preferred bidder before withdrawing from the process, while the Blue Knights, the apparent supporters’ choice, have entered a war of words with the administrators over their bid.

Their failure to secure preferred bidder status has opened the door for Green, and he said this morning: “I am delighted our proposal to purchase Rangers has been accepted and we are working night and day to finalise matters.

“This is a great football club with a tremendous history and we will preserve that while building a solid platform for the future. Rangers supporters have every right to believe their club should be a success on and off the pitch and that is exactly what we will strive to achieve.

“At all times we will make decisions that are in the best interests of the club. Not every decision at a club can be popular but I can tell every Rangers’ fan now that whatever decision is taken they will always be told the truth.

“We will do everything in our power to achieve a CVA and we already have a detailed written commitment from Mr Craig Whyte for the transfer of his shareholding. I look forward to working with everyone at Rangers, staff, players and supporters, in building a better future. It’s what this great club deserves.”

I apologise to my wife all the time regarding the length :(

Kenny McG

14 May 2012 13:53:52
What Charles Green actually said on the radio was that he gave Whyte a total of £2 which represented a 200% return on this original investment of £1. With that sort of financial brain-power in place, D&P are understood to be worried and have resumed talks with other parties.

I have just listened to the press conference again and he DID NOT say that. He said:

"Legally I was obliged to give Craig Whyte his pound back, that was the pound he had given David Murray. And then I gave him a pound out of my own pocket which means Craig Whyte made a 100% profit"

@1- I'm a bear mate, and i heard the press conference too on Radio Scotland, to be fair to the OP,he is correct, CG did say 200%,hopefully it was just a slip of the tongue.
Optimistic Bear

@ 1 - you need some cotton buds in them ears, he definitely said 200%! Not the greatest of starts when trying to inspire financial confidence!

14 May 2012 13:25:26
brekkin news eddy ma sun wee sally" has a gut feelin"
dont wurry boays av foned um up n doaktur pat hiz assured um its nothin thit shiftin 3 stane ae ugly fat widnae cure,altho heed stull be fat,
bit hey let he withoot sin cast the furst brik mathew 29 para 6,
its prob jist a case ae onyun badyins thit he scoffed the uthur nite ye see heez cumfurt eatin ( here ed thats stuffs danjerous ye shood only yase it fur keepin yur waashin fresh)pleez dont try this at home unless ye come fae GOVIN
wee apt how yiz aw daen the day boays?
here ah come in ah peice(ah no ah no)

I can make out 50% of this post at best n i might be missing the point but was it just a wee dig at ally??
I love how the selik fans try n abuse ally for being a wee bit chubby but his playing days are over, whats clonel kfc commons excuse???
J1985

I see all those years of dogging english classes paid off then

One word in that post confirms this roaster is a selik fan....."para".
J1985

"dogging" English classes...I thought that was all done with hand signals and a flash of your headlights.

@3: this site's not been shy of para Rangers fans recently.

Rangers fans have a right to be paranoid at the moment. Your never quite sure where the next fly kick is coming from. I think thats a legitimate reason to be cautious at least. For now anyway. CheltBlue

@4: In parts of Scotland 'dogging' has another, less sexual meaning - skipping school.

@7..in some parts of Scotland we have a sense of humour!

You've not read Irvine welsh then ? Pats just giving you a glaswegian version. Do any of you actually come from Glasgow on here, 'nat by ra way?

@8: wasn't sure if you were unaware or not of the meaning up here - I have English friends who don't know what it means other than the sexual reference. You could have been in the dark about the truanting meaning.

14 May 2012 12:20:10
Does it not concern the rangers fans that green is proposing nearly the same as Whyte but the end game is the same?

Think about it for a minute, if a cva could be agreed for the amounts being spoken about would Mr Whyte not be able to product it? Course he would.

My point is that no cva can be agreed for the amounts spoken about. Mr Green said the alternative is newco, which will line his pockets eventually.

One thing in this though is that he is banking on you, the supporters to achieve this. Might just be me but is any newco rangers not just another new way of exploiting the fans who have already suffered so much?

Just a question bears,

Jamie Mac

Give the guy a chance FFS!! I liked his blunt direct style yesterday, NOBODY CAN BE WORSE THAN WHYTE.

He has stepped up to the plate and put his money where his mouth is!

J

A good question. CW saw off secured creditor Lloyds and is now a secured creditor himself (perhaps) using money secured on season tickets which won't be honoured.

I'm pretty sure he'll benefit from a payout under a CVA anyway. Under liquidation I'm not so sure. But I think the shares revert to CW if there's no CVA so he still has a trump card in his hand.

14 May 2012 10:46:25
People need to start thinking positive and give Green a chance. At the end of the day, no one else stuck their head above the parapet and put in an offer that was even close to being accepted. Its either this or nothing and i personally welcome it. all those 'Gers' fans who have taken a disliking to him based on his surname need to give themselves a shake. This is good news.

Another deluded soul Kennedy an tbk bid 11.2m and green 8.2m Kennedy had everything in place this green has since come out and said Cva less than 50 percent likely look into his background it ain't pretty,hope ur right but a ain't holding ma breath

Didn't TBK's bid include £8m from debenture holders? i.e. not real cash, just an amount removed from the debts.

14 May 2012 10:20:16
If Mr Green and his cronies have the wealth that you lot believe they have , then they wont need to try and get a CVA for 1p in the £ , surely they'll just write the cheques to pay the creditors what they are owed ..... Somehow i dont think so .

Even if they were worth billions each they are still business men and they will always try and make a deal.

14 May 2012 10:01:56
HMRC have already indicated that a CVA will nto be granted.

Whyte tied in with the new bid by Green and will get money after liquidation due to floating charge over club assetts, which Green didn't buy out (he boughtt he shres)

Reading carefully, the shares only become transfered if the CVA is successful. So I'm thinking CW must be due something in a CVA as a creditor (the floating charge?)

If no CVA is agreed then it looks like CW keeps the shares - whatever they might be worth in a liquidation (probably nothing).

Im hearing the same thing

GDog
WATP

14 May 2012 09:45:35
Rangers related story (QPR) what does
everyone think of that cretin Barton?
surely FA must ban him for life, and
also police must charge him. He has
had so many chances and comes up
with so many lame excuses. Barton
is a hooligan end of..... Timalloy

Tevez should banned aswell, he started it all with his kick out at Barton, what I can't understand is why the far side linesman could give that call against Barton but couldn't see tevez kick seconds before?

100% Tim the mans an out and out Toerag.

Rosehearty True Blue....

Celtic related story -" Boston Celtic" (American basketball team) They don't play football,and play in the NBA,which is in another continent.
You talk p*sh Timalloy.
Optimistic Bear

Barton is a t**t, pure and simple! They should have let Kompany loose on him after he tried to head butt him.

A good beating would sort him and his quiff out!

Bluegenius!

Not often you'll find me agreeing with you timalloy but i'm 100% behind you on this 1. He should have came outa jail a changed man, instead he is constantly on twitter trying to be as controvercial as possible, continues to let himself down on the field and yesterday should be his last involvement in football. Hope the FA throw the book at him. Never really seen the incident with Tevez clearly enough but him lashing out at Aguero (whilst the guys back was turned by the way) sums the animal up. Then he tries to nut Kompany!! Micah Richards was top class in coming on to refuse the incident but it's a bad day when an opposing teams sub has to run on the field to calm him down. No restraint, no discipline and no class........Football can do without a thug like him, especially on the money he's on.
J1985

Totally agree, look what the wonderful sfa did to to our big Duncan, Barton should be punished more because he did more.BLUNTRU72 LLRFC

@6; your big duncan was a different case in a different country..........green jhedi

@green jedhi. thanks for highlighting the obvious......yet again.
The guy makes a legit comparison, basically barton assaulted 2 guys n with his track record this should be the final straw. no exceptions should be made for the guy because he does this stuff on a football field.
j1985

@J1985; Agreed,i honestly feel he should have a life ban..........green jhedi

@1 Agree Tevez started it, FA will probably review everything and Tevez gets charged also, but Barton to then viciously kick one player then try and head butt another is disgraceful
@3 Optimistic Bear no matter what I try and say bears like you are too filled with "timmy" hate to see anything else
at least your other bears can see that sporting integrity must come first..
Barton has had so many chances, and QPR gave him a great opportunity and paid him well £30k+ a week and this is how he repays them, I feel sorry for their fans he could have got them relegated. Timalloy

Its not the content its the name at the bottom tim. Youve been on here for months on and off and now suddenly you want to be taken seriously? After all your patter Im surprised your offended. CheltBlue

It was your "Rangers related(QPR)" opening Tim.
Like i said total p*sh.
"timmy" hate? Explain please?
Optimistic Bear.

14 May 2012 09:20:42
The Celtic supporters must furious, on the day they at last get there hands on the league trophy Rangers still grab all the headlines and the Celtic story hardly gets a mention

Well done you must be very proud..........green jhedi

No just sore heads from all the celebrating.

I'm sure they're really concerned that the Scottish press have concentrated on a team still at risk than the champions. I doubt it's taken the edge off the party (except in your head).

Lifting the league trophy----Struggling to survive....hmmm....na we are ok thanks for your concern though.

How can you get a hangover from ice cream and jelly ,surely you wouldnt have added buckie to it ? lol doug t.s.o

Ya cause the media and papers love Celtic and say all nice things about them all the time....we all know how much the papers love yous and how they paint Celtic and managment in a bad light so its really no suprise that we dont get the due credit, it is nothing new and realy is pridictable.

14 May 2012 08:35:48
I look forward to the BBC Scotland documentary on Charles Green and his consortium to inform us of a dodgy background or after investigations they have found nothing of interest.

I think if the BBC could find anything negative about this guy, i would like to know sooner rather than later. Were they not right about Wh*te?

14 May 2012 07:51:35
Next season will be a right off I'm afraid, Celtic miles ahead and the transfer embargo gives us no chance, ally will sink with this group of players as all the decent ones will be sold to compensate no champions league, I predict mcshagger, Whittker, goian, naismith and lafferty being sold.

You can't say decent ones and then include laugherty fs, and btw I'm a bear from six counties so I think I'm entitled to say that brother bear. BLUNTRU72 LLRFC

14 May 2012 02:06:54
Fact......Derry City were suspended from the N.Irish league only a few years back and joined the Rep of Ire league....(only 5 or 6 years ago.)
Why was that not blocked by UEFA ?

Rules change every week .ask the s.f.a .whos to say the epl. and eufa wont change their rules in the future allowing teams from countries in the UK into their league ,just remember it is 1 island we live in ,does anyone remember the experiment of only being offside inside the 18 yard line which was drawn right across the pitch ,i dont think it lasted too long doug t.s.o

Probably for the same reason players born in the north can play for the south.

They used the offside change in the dryburgh cup, god I am showing my age

Was only for dryborough cup in Scotland. Jock stein ignored it saying we couldn't play with different rules from everybody else. Hibs planted a man on the line and won the cup.england does not want the old firm. Leeds, sheff wed, and other big clubs want in epl and nobody wants the bigotry.

Between 1882 to 1924 Ireland and republic of Ireland was represented as a single national.

They seem to have a different kind of bigotry in england ,and its the colour of your skin ,just as much as people here resent people from europe coming into this country and swallowing the jobs up doug t.s.o

@6: 'swallowing the jobs'? Is that a quotation or your opinion?

No number 7 its plain facts , i work in hgv road haulage , they call it cabotage in our industry doug t.s.o

@9: and it's their fault for doing something they're legally allowed to do? Or the fault of the employers?

No there is new laws brought out to restrict cabotage ,on average there is 30 scottish guys after 1 transport job doug t.s.o

@10: surely that means restriction of trade withing the EU?

14 May 2012 00:25:49
Records held at Companies House suggest Mr Green has held at least 39 different director or secretary appointments over the years. Thirteen of the firms he has been involved with have since been dissolved.

He appears to move quickly from one post to another, having resigned on 31 occasions, most recently in February.

Is he the man to save the club? I think not.

Change the record because he switches job doesn't make him dodgy or incapable in anyway.

Good,you keep thinking not.i honestly dont know but im going to try and support the guy until he starts to show us otherwise.after whyte its a case of once bitten,twice shy but if hes got the money and backing then why not?

These guys sit on numerous boards at the same time (many of your ex MPs sit on 7 or 8 of them at any one time).....it doesn't mean that he has moved directly from one post to another ...... The press know this but for some reason don't care to mention it

13 May 2012 22:40:00
Can rangers extend players existing contracts?.,.,

OutsiderLookingIn

As far as I know, yes. But let's see what happens in the appeals this week.

13 May 2012 22:34:03
liked earlier post mentioning michael mols, what a talent he was, hope we keep aluko too, and hope greens consortium can deliver cva giving rangers fans a future to look forward too again. trying not to build hopes up,bad news never seems far away these days. blue bear

13 May 2012 21:32:39
lets get 1 thing straight still a long way to go if we dont get a cva on june the 6th it will be a newco its that simple people


TB

13 May 2012 20:58:02
This is not a rumour but what about juve goin an entire season unbeaten that's some.feat and if they win the cup that's a league and cup season unbeaten fantastic

13 May 2012 20:22:28
Fellow bears I ask you to stand firm. This consortium can save our name. I do believe we are done and I hope we go to the 3rd debt free. Because the rumour is that Parachute will be agreed embargo stays and we will be regulated next year. Take our punishment stand firm go it to 3 and in 5 years time watch the Septic fans wish Green was in their team.

Green is in our team, so was whyte and our name is Celtic....what did yous do this year try and be like Celtic with a guy named Green and Whyte and Celik to save yous, seems yous are trying to be more like Celtic day after day.

and its funny how you think green is your savor(just like whyte eh) and that he is alredy a great man that saved your club and yous say that Celtic will wish to have him, well you seem to forget the bunnet man that once again yous are trying to be like Celtic to come and save you....we dont need to wish for anything from yous for we have the right people in place and the right model. 140years are gone and you still cant manage to be a proper run club like Celtic no matter how hard you try.

STOP bringin Celtic into everything, cant you see it is because of that yous are in the situation you are in? for you went after what we had first. change with your new club

You heard it here first, green is another bulls**tter. Ask any Sheffield united fan. He has said rangers will never be in debt again. Do you know what that means ? He's just got your stadium, car park, training ground and players for 8.5 million. You come free.

@1 is that the bunnet man 50 thousand cseptic fans to jeered

13 May 2012 20:01:34
Ed I urge all Rangers fans to look at whats happening to their Club and how their 'so called leaders' misled them. Radical perhaps, for a fans site, but ask them to widen their outlook and consider everything affecting their Club look at the SFA findings and put their hands on their hearts and say whatever they like but others will have their opinions of their Club and sometimes putting ones hands up can change peoples perceptions - I hope my team meets you lot in the not too distant future - lots of TIMMY's

13 May 2012 19:54:46
We have got to get right behind the new owners, the last year plus has been pretty grim and seemed to be heading towards liquidation. It may of course still go that way but seems there is a good chance of a CVA. It is clear from duffers statement that HMRC and Ticketus know this deal is as good as its going to get. They will clearly be better to take something rather than nought ( think the Yorkshire bit is rubbing off already).

I think the feeling of the fans is that they would prefer the Blue Knights but they simply did not put up enough money. That is the bottom line as duffers have a duty to the creditors.

I don't believe that we will be faced with another Whyte and I like the fact that nobody will own more than fifteen percent. That is an absolute must as no one man should own our club.

My feelings, and these may be optimistic, but I think the transfer embargo will be reduced to not being able to sign anybody until football debts are repaid. That, with season ticket money coming in should be no problem. I think they will get 75 percent agreement for a CVA and I think we will start next season with no sanctions and no points deduction.
Is this right?, no probably not but as a gers fan that is what I want to see, am I comfortable with that situation - no.

At the end of the day I love my club, this season will go down as the worst of my lifetime, but hope that they go on for another 140 years and number 55 is just round the corner.

The news has been getting worse as the days and weeks go by, and it is nice to see a bit of light at the end of what has been a long tunnel. I hope that the new owners realise the extent of love for this club, and how much it means to people.

As for Whyte, would it not be great if Ticketus are successful in their case against whyte and he ends up in the position that he put us in.

Can I also say a big thanks to the players for taking cuts and for the back room staff. A special mention as well for Super Ally who has done a marvellous job and shown real class in handling this unbelievable situation that he found himself in his first year in charge. For all his doubters it remains to be seen if he will become a good manager, but his love for this club had been there for all to see, and hope he goes on to be as good a manager as he was a player.

Going to bed with a slight smile on my face, it is the first night for a long time that has been the case.

I live in Yorkshire. You're welcome to our Mr. Green.

I live in Yorkshire too. Mr Green is a top bloke. So is Mr Pink. In fact, all the reservoir dogs are great.

13 May 2012 19:34:48
If what we are hearing is true that
Mr Green has 20 millionaires in his
consertium, why don't they each put
say £5m into Rangers to pay off our
debts and give Ally £20m transfer budget
everyone happy and our history and more
importantly our pride is intact.
Ally can then use funds to plan our
Champions League campaigns with
superior players..

Yeah, why don't they ?

Why do that when they could possibly get rid of the debt for 12 million....mark