Rangers Banter Archive May 14 2013

14 May 2013 21:50:35
Can't mind what club it was think stirling rings a bell, ask out of contract players to pay for a trial, then pick best 4 or 5, offer them maybe a grand a week. I'm pretty sure there would be a great response from some half decent players. Would you pay for a trial and maybe a career at rangers if given the chance.

That's the first bit of lateral thinking on this site for ages. I'm all for it but your management / execs wouldn't

15 May 2013 06:59:12
A grand a week to play for stirling. Ha ha try £50

I think it was clyde who done it.

15 May 2013 08:14:17
I'm getting really bored of reading all this optimistic transfer talk. I'm not saying this isn't a good idea mate, but we are already almost full to capacity under sfl rules. The good old days are gone when we could have a stable full of stars and future stars, probably forever. Sorry but its true.

Pay for a trial?

Cheap and classless.

Think it was free at Clyde and it was Bomber behind the idea, seem to remember he discovered some decent enough players too.

Asking anyone to pay for a trial would be a complete no-no & do nothing for the reputation of the club involved imo.

16 May 2013 10:32:29
There are plenty of quality young players playing football at lower levels through not having a relative at a bigger club, nepotism is ruining our game just as much as ineffectual scouting networks and the pals act rotating the same 5hit coaches around our clubs. All the governing bodies are not fit for purpose. organising trials, if done correctly, could find a few better, more promising players than ones already there, who seem to have had all natural flair trained out them by the ineffectual training practices at auchenhowie (I refuse to use that mans name, how he has set in motion the carnage to Scottish footballs reputation, without punishment, really sickens me. )

14 May 2013 18:45:14
I live in Northern Ireland and I would seriously suggest Rangers talk to Colin Coates of Crusaders. Brilliant centre half current captain and N. I. international. Plays part time so shouldn't be expensive.

Wee Bill

14 May 2013 21:29:28
ok all I hear atm is get youth players in which I do agree with but these boys can't just come in and play for a team like rangers with such high demands week in week out at rangers your as good as your last pass and this season past has been the worst ever young playes included.

when going on about players in the first and second divs there is some good plyers there but still would be the more experianced boy u would go for not a youngster as to much a gamble to go for with the fans high demands

the way forward I see it is going for players like law hatley davidson smith and a couple sesoned c/b with a few top talented youth boys form the first div so u have the more sesoned boys showing the young boys what it takes and helping them along that being said don't think daly is the answer will do a job at the level we are at but I would give him 1 year max then he's passed it

plz leave your thoughts

mandy

The young players will not improve significantly under the current coaching fiasco, and McCoist will sign s**** and play them out of position, basically it won't get better until we get rid of the dead wood weighing us down.

I, ve just seen QoS get promotion twice
and bar Clark I don't know anyone in there team
now I know that all good young players are up to the job of playing on the bigger stage. BUT. I can't think of hand Rangers buying a teenager? maybe someone could tell me
all the players have been moulded by other people up to last season
all these young guys let go every year for someone elses work to be brought in there are the odd exception. ferguson, mcgregor, hutton
i just feel more should be done with what we have at least in division 2
and if the people there can't do it. well maybe the should go take a look at Queen of the South, s set up see if they can't pick up some hints from a good young manager on the way up. or stay with a tired old team that's got us where?. what we were served up last season was realy aweful. when we renew and get served that up again it will be another year away

Depends on the demands put on young players. Rangers should have started again with a young team no matter how long it took to reach the spl. The amount of money spent on the current squad is ridiculous and is contributing to the on going mess at the club. An experienced keeper, midfielder and striker to support the kids and give them their head to learn and grow as a team was the way forward. Ally spent money to get a cup run he said it himself. What a waste.

You can't compare playing for Rangers to any other team bar Celtic, that's an undeniable fact and before anyone of either persuasion just runs with that statement for cheap pointscoring just read on

The demands of Rangers are different from every team, again bar Celtic, and drastically different from any team outwith the SPL, in the same way we can't be realistically or honestly compared with Gretna, we can't be compared with QoS simply because we're going into the league they just destroyed

the expectations, level of scrutiny, confidence, mentality, ethic, facilities, literally everything except the opposition, is light years ahead and infinitely more intense not even getting started with life in the goldfish bowl

It's great seeing the youngsters running about, chasing every ball, hungry for the chance, I remember nearly jumping off my seat when young Stoney nearly scored in one of the final games, he should have burst the net

but look at it this way, we demolished that league, absolutely killed it, with a squad thrown together

24 points clear
more than double the goal difference of the next best

and we're still whinging about how bad the season was lol

Tell that to the 18 year olds who haven't played infront of 5000 nevermind 50'000 that live on the memories of Laudrup and Gascoigne

The current crop of kids aren't good enough with only McLeod and McKay anywhere near what's expected. The rest are no more than average and under normal circumstances would have been released by now

@5 that's the point, there is no "normal circumstances" any more. This is the new normal. Live with it.

15 May 2013 12:24:52
@4. what a great, sensible post mate, I agree totally, we did what was required, stage one, and we did it in a canter in fact, now look at some of the critism from "rangers fans "
Nobody said we were gr8. In fact we were pish, mostly, and we may well need a new manager, but this is a means to an end, who knows, maybe ally will turn out to be the one man who took us back thru the divisions to were we where,. , maybe not, but how many on here can't stand him now, that is shameful, tommyblue

@6 the point being is that youngsters like Crawford, Naismith, Hegarty, Cole and Aird aren't the answer when we go up the leagues. Not even sure they are good enough for the first division. Don't understand your live with it comment. What are you talking about?

14 May 2013 15:48:48
clubs needs to move on.

any player or manager in the past in my mind now should remain there. in the past

if we keep harping on about bring back the past. that's what we will get and so far. its not where I want to be.

going to take at least 10 years.

we need to cut's and stability

O. P. Spot on.

Correct very dificult decisions need to be made for the long term future, we also need a clear out of management, as none has any experience of working without mega money, its the only way, even yet ally demanding 4 spl quality players wtf for were in div 2

14 May 2013 08:18:18
Gattuso sacked as FC Sion manager, let's get him in!

As what? the new chief executive?

FFS I can practically hear the unmistakable BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP of the big blue juggernaught in reverse!

What's the obsession with living in the past on here?

Goram

hutton amorusso gough whittaker

novo souness butcher laudrup

mccoist hately

baybear I have put 11 names above and all of them are probably in the wrong positions, I don't know.

but some of the guys on this site just can't seem to move on and would be happy with any team as long as they are 'peeple' regardless of age or ability.

you buddy, have never posted anything other than, common sense responsible threads or answers. keep up the good work and try to spread it about your fellow bears, like p. o. b. shammy

Shammy- Apparently putting players in the right positions doesn't matter anyway ;0)
Cheers bud, I just say it as I see it as do many others, just not sure there are enough of us.
Cue the cries of "he's Timmy in disguise" lol ;0)

Well you know what they say about "If the cap fits" Baybear. And here you are jammin with Shammy who posts the biggest load of keech going.
Shammy perhaps you can explain your reference to pob living in the past because I haven't a clue what your on about, but then that's just another day at the office for you Shammy.

P. O. B.

@4 maybe he is agreeing with the rest of the forum, that the vast majority of your posts are keech!
Enjoy ;-)

Ah pob, or as I like to call you, your majesty, king ostrich.
there are quite a few deluded peepul on here but you stand head and shoulders above them all. why do you live in the past?. you still think you are rangers, you still think you are great, you refuse to believe or even listen to anything anybody says against your club.

read your last post. you turned against one of your own, and had a snide swipe at him, why? because baybear and me agreed about something. you really should take lessons from him. or do you think he posts keech as well.

if baybear falls from a tall building he probably thinks, i'm dead. you probably think i'll land on a furniture van full of mattresses. if you fell into a river, no thoughts of drowning. probably think you'll come out with a fish in your pocket.

there's optimisim and support, and then there's you. blind stupidity, gullibility and misplaced bravado.
pob your team is in an awful lot of trouble, anyone with a basic understanding of arithmetic knows that. and you will have to admit that one day fairly soon.

oh and you should apologise to baybear, said nothing wrong. shammy

Pob 13:21 on the 13th. tell me what is keech about that post. tell me how you see it through your blue tinted glasses. shammy oh and I think it's spelt keich

@4 P. O. B- Seriously?! "if the cap fits" grow up fellie. I'll agree with a point that I agree with regardless of who makes it. I'm sure I've agreed with some points you've made in the past. Equally I'm sure I've disagreed with a few points made by Shammy in the past too. You seem to be blinkered to anything other than your own opinion at times. I'll continue to agree with Shammy if I feel he makes a valid point, as I will with you. It just so happens that Shammy appears to talk more sense than you most of the time. There's not really any need for your wee snidey digs at folk you disagree with. Just encourages folk to ignore what may be valid points you make on the assumption that your talking 5h1te again.

Baybear, respect. shammy

Not really bothered about whether people agree or disagree with my point of view Baybear, I give my opinion. end of, it's called democracy mate.
What I do have is a deep devotion for my football club, and I will continue to resist those who repeatedly slander and defecate the good name or attempt to undermine the contribution of Rangers legends without any justification whatsoever.
It is quite alarming to me to witness the amount of anti RFC forums, Bloggers, and journalists, who are quite happy to undermine and destabilise our club.
It amuses and intrigues me greatly that the so called "experts" on RFC's business all have affiliations with CFC. Yet we have daily requests from Bears for the club to let us know what's happening. It is also interesting to note that people like Jim McColl, Paul Murray, Brian Kennedy, Douglas Park, and organistions like the RST etc are all silent regarding our affairs, with the more avid protagonists for McCoist's departure and unjustified comments regarding WS coming from the other end of the city.
What is even more concerning is the fact that more and more of our own supporters appear to be getting dragged in by the relentless propaganda campaign started by our clubs enemies. If you think i'm talking rubbish that's your opinion and your welcome to it, but do not underestimate the power of negative propaganda. I would just ask you and others to consider for a moment why people like Paul Murray etc, who have more contacts and resources than the majority of ordinary fans, and who have no business interests in Rangers, are not promoting negative vibes, or advocating any form of action by the fans.

People like Shammy float around from this site to others, starting windups then asking his pals and ed's to comment on his achievements.
He's a court jester playing to the masses and seeking love and attention.
P. O. B.

16 May 2013 15:30:06
Does it matter if the info is from a "Tim"?the "rangers men" in charge, past &present, seem unable to tell the truth nevermind unable to convince fans the club can be run correctly, without the lies and soundbites and nonsense about the use of things they should bloody own i. e ibrox and auchenhowie. more info on this whole charade has come from football fans of other clubs and not your board, but you want to continue the timmy conspiracy theories ffs Celtic fans don't need to post things to f*ck the rangers up victims, more than capable of doing that all on your own! And no matter how you try and dress it up pob its fans like you that enabled this whole sham"nothing to see here Timmy, move along"try coming out the dark ages bud it helps. were not the enemy, your so called"rangers men"on the board, past &present, bloody are!

P. O. B- Right mate, I had loads of things to say regarding all your points but quite frankly we're just going round in circles.
Here's an olive branch for you- I have no doubt you love Rangers, that much is evident from the passion in your posts. Looks like we're just coming at it from different angles but I'd hope we both want the same goal; to see Rangers in safe hands and grow stronger for years to come. It is for this reason that I apologise for saying that you are talking 5h1te. I am genuinely disappointed in myself for making such a sweeping comment as that's not usually my style. I make no apologies for giving my opinion or agreeing with Shammy or any other like minded person for that matter. I do think that although there are some who would like to destroy our club not everyone is the enemy. There is far too much evidence to the contrary and I'm afraid too many of us have bought into Chucks siege mentality at a time when we were vulnerable. He did a great job of taking advantage of the situation and whipping the majority of us into a rabid frenzy. we're in danger of tearing our club apart if we don't unite for the common good. I will therefore continue to disagree with you whenever I see fit but will try to be more objective.
SHAMMY- Can I get a loan of your cap? My heid's too big for my one ;0P

14 May 2013 01:16:43
CARL WINCHESTER defence
Robin Shroot midfield
Jeff Hughes midfield
Adam McGurk attack
Will Grigg attack
Kirk Miller attack
All playing league one out of contact
All Northern Irish probably want to come
Liam Boyce worth a shout to, playing in his own nation again out of contract.

From what I can see all good shouts in terms of ability. I have to ask though "All Northern Irish probably want to come"? WTF's that all about?
Seriously? Why do people keep posting this drivel.

@1 so true! Why are they a good shout because they are northern Irish OP? Lennon is from Northern Ireland too and look at the way your fellow supporters have treated him!
So tell me OP what's the difference?

Once again Baybear, your posts are quite good reading and you seem to raise some great posts mate! Very good reading sir!

It says PROBABLY would want to come, are people finding it strange reading that word.?The poster never said that they would come did they?I do not know these players, but willing to bet that a large % follow Rangers. Also every Rangers fan has never abused Lennon. Another misconception and the ones that sent the bomb are rightfully tucked up behind bars.

@2 Cheers, I always look at posts and think "what would Roy Walker say?" then I follow his mantra "Just say what you see".

Actually, he's from Northern Ireland too. sign him up! Roy Walker for CEO! ;0)

I was here a few years back saying we should sign Stuart Dallas, and look he is the best player at Brentford now. And will be playing in the championship next year. I think we should be looking over there for players. Also Devlin is a good keeper, who is going to be free. He is there Northern Ireland under 21 keeper. We can't be to picky were we get out players. Its why we should look at New Saints Draper, he has a fine strike rate. And is only turning 23, and a New Zealand international. He is from England so no work permit would be a issue. I reckon he could get us the goals in the second division next year.

@3 oooft! that's a bit of a contrived defence of the OP's assumption that nationality will PROBABLY dictate the team you want to play for. You should be a political spin doctor mate. If what you say is true then it would have been easier just saying "they'd probably want to come" what relevance does the Fact that they're Northern Irish have to do with anything? There was absolutely no need to highlight their nationality; unless the OP was trying to make a link between the two?
As I said. drivel! and again a reason why we will remain stagnant as a club.

Grigg is a striker and a half, but hearing he's happy at Walsall and set to renew.

~Saddler Bear.