Rangers Banter Archive October 14 2012

 

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14 Oct 2012 23:38:12
Stupid Football Ass are of sacking Doncaster. This is partly due to his incompetant handling of the Rangers situation. If the have any sense they will invite David Longmiur into the job from his position at the SFL. The guy has shown leadership and integrity in handling adverse and cpmplex situations . And hes I am sure will be is own man .

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The SFA are sacking an employee of the SPL?
How does that work?

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The man who should be going is Ogilvy how he can still be there beggers belief

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Give it a proof read next time buddy. And less lies in it aswell thanks.

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And if/when the next incumbent does anything to annoy Rangers fans, they'll be accused of lacking integrity etc., even if it is Longmuir.

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The Dali lama would find it hard to do the the job without being accused of having a hidden agenda.

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Making longmuir head boy would be wrong did he not invite rangers into the third division ahead of others more entitled to be there

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Longmuir broke the sfl regulations to allow the rangers of charles green directly into sfl div3. the sfl regulations require four years of signed off, by chartered accountant, certified accounts to gain entrance. both oldco and newco have neither. lord carloway at the high court would drum newco out the sfl on an appeal by any disgruntled party.
ninnies smith has confirmed that legally charles greens newco rangers do not and never have been in the spl. {Ed039's Note - Four years now, I have been told many times that it is three, now you are upping it. Let me get this clear to you. An established company with accounts MUST supply them in reference to applying to join the Scottish Football League. A newco can not but they can still apply to join none the less, learn the rules, then learn how they are applied)

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#6 - no he didn't - he didn't even have a say in it - 29 out of the 30 SFL chairmen voted them in

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The person to be looked at is Regan not Doncaster.

Also, both should be looked at. The way they handled the bears situation was shocking. Trying to shoehorn RFC into SFL Division 1 was an abysmal attempt to appease Sky TV and sponsors to maximise income to the SFA & SPL and in turn safeguard their jobs / personal income.

Since most sponsors stuck by their agreement but won't get as much exposure since the bears are not in the SPL makes you wonder what Regan and Doncaster told them to keep them on board.

The letter produced by CG at one of his hearings shut them up because it was tantamount to bribery. You can imagine them saying "sign this and it will all go away" but it didn't. They didn't want CG taking that to the papers.

Total w***s the both of them. They have done nothing for Scottish football yet get paid 10 times what they are actually worth.

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There jobs are to get the best deal for Scottish football much like cg is trying to do for rangers.just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean they should be sacked

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No way should David Longmiur get the job we need someone with the balls to say no to cheats

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14 Oct 2012 23:36:20
Hi Ed , as a Rangers fan i'm sick of people coming on here and having a pop at Mr Charles Green about what he is doing wrong ! Let the guy & his backroom team get on with their jobs, yes he has stated that he is here to make money... why not your NOT in business just for the sake of it. if a new chief executive starts any other job then he is given time to settle in & do what he is paid to do.if the share issue is a success, & he turns our club around , stadium upgrading, investing in our youth system, new superstore, Club Hotel ect, then he deserves to take a profit & move on to pastures new..... after all nobody else followed up their interest with putting their money were their mouth was.too many people on here looking for a quick fix.give it time & we will come good...

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Good evening charles

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Mate its the sheer volume of ****e he talks. I mean ffs shut up and stop giving interviews sounding like your he's steamin Charles, on about Rangers will be turning over 100 million and slagging off Southampton & Aston Villa. I just think he is an embarrassment when he talks. Of course he was the only one who come up with the money and of course he deserves to make money from Rangers. And that would all be perfect if he was only opening his mouth when he needs to like to defend us against the crooks at the SFA. But dear oh dear, every other F*CKING day its another bout of verbal diarrhoea. Rain it in FFS.

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Mr Green you need to stop writing this stuff it's embarrassing! How much of your own money have you actually spent on Rangers? We will see if the share issue actually happens and how much money you keep to re-invest. We cannt sign anyone for a couple of years so we will see where the money is spent if anywhere. I for one will not be soending anything until I am 100% sure it will go back into the club and not just to pay players wages to keep the club afloat becuase you will not spend any of your money and you have not delivered on any great billionaire investors {Ed001's Note - surely you don't see a problem with your money being spent on keeping your club afloat? I fail to understand why you expect any sugar daddy to put in millions. I must be missing something, but why should he? If I bought a football club, I would want it to be self financing, as a fan I want my club to survive within its own means, not be beholden to some sugar daddy who could get bored and want his money back at any time. Ask Malaga fans what kind of trouble that can cause!}

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Ask Malaga fans? I did the stadium tour in Malaga last week and the exact words used to describe how things are over there were, 'livin the dream' They've won their first 2 champions league games and play Milan next week. Until the rich Arab arrived they were going nowhere.

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I trust you were one of the people fully behind Craig Whyte.

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Would'nt it be marvelous if they broadcast Charlie chuckles press conferences live on TV.We can then all see and hear what questions (if any) are put to him by the so-called journalists at hand.This would have a really big audience.STV please note
The big top must stay open

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Ask rangers fc - they lost £100 million.

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Please tell me why rangers fans cant see that they are not buying shares in their club,they,re buying shares in a holding company belonging to cg and as soon as he sells up the shares are useless bits of paper...again.....they,re blinded by loyalty to their club.surely the rangers have some fans that are legal minds and can see this,why are they not speaking up.....gary

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@7 rangers lost £100m? Don't feckin think so!..... the taxpayer and small businesses lost £100m.

Briggs

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@9 gers in administration due to being unable to pay debts in region of £100 million, will now be liquidated as could nto agrre repayment of even 1/100th of that debt, the best they could offer....

this not good history to show prospective new shareholders, when you have no history other then poor 3 months or 140 years which ended in 26,000 shareholders losing every penny of investment....

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14 Oct 2012 22:57:39
C'mon fellow bears remember no one likes us we don't care .let them post what they like doesn't change anything so why get upset the sad little men have lost there chance to bombard the dr with their bile so gives them more time to come on here instead of their own site they are truly obsessed by us.remember they said they can live without us so why don't they go away and leave us alone or is it that they truly do miss us .

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We cant leave you alone.its just too good.comedy gold at its best.i used to spend hours watching all the classics,but nothing comes close to this site.its like every day is christmas day.keep up the good work,class.

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People are entitled to an opinion. But I do think my fellow celtic fans should just let rangers get on with there own business. I think the problem is that most celtic fans including myself miss the rivalry and banter that goes with it.

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14 Oct 2012 21:18:17
Ed as a Celtic fan I keep hearing about a
anti rangers agenda on this site without
any names. So here is your chance
for rangers fans to out all media , journalists with a anti rangers agenda. Name them

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Well theres Phil ...Alex Thompson...Donnecha DeLong and Roy Greenslade to name but a few...all with anti-Rangers agendas...

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Graham Spiers

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So.....you have an anti-rangers agenda if you seek the truth, do some digging and ask questions that should have been done by the so-called established journalists?

not an agenda at all.....just decent journalism, and if the succulent lamb brigade, of which there are many, many subscibers, had done their jobs properly in the first place, maybe your club wouldn't be facing oblivion today?


taco

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Decent journalism? In Scotland. I've heard it all now. It sell's papers does rangers. Good news or bad. That's why so many non rangers get on these sites.

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Graham Spiers, the boyhood Rangers fan who had a season ticket for Ibrox?

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The collapse of rangers is the biggest story in British football history. Graham Speirs questioned sir David Murray about his wreckless spending years ago only to be banned and excluded from the inner circle. Even last year when the bbc exposed the billionaire whyte they were banned from Ibrox and the fans accused the bbc of an agenda. The problem is that rangers fans can't face the truth. You only hear what you want to hear, you believe everything that comes out of the Ibrox pr machine. It pains me to say this but timaloy was right you are ostriches. maybe it's time you asked serious questions of the people who run your club then if your satisfied with the answers you can start bleeting on about anti rangers agendas.

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Rangers self destructed, no outside influences were responsible what so ever.

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It is not the biggest story in British football history. 1966, heysel, Hillsborough and United's treble are bigger stories/events. {Ed001's Note - you forgot the Munich disaster, the Ibrox disaster and the Bradford fire.}

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Yes ed I did. The list goes on.

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Speirs has printed proven lies about rangers in the past, any real fan would know this and know the reason he is not liked has nothing to do with the last 12 months!

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What are these lies please.I don't recollect
Graham

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You both forgot 67'...shocker! {Ed001's Note - sorry did something happen in '67 that was a big story in British football? Because I think you will find it was no bigger than Liverpool winning it in 2005 for the 5th time to keep it and I never mentioned that either! Talk about looking for reasons to whine.}

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Liverpool winning it in 2005, what a joke that was. Milan you let me down that night. It was all a conspiracy.

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14 Oct 2012 19:10:41
There seems to be a systematic attempt to wind up the Bears on this site at the moment to go against Green/Mcoist or anybody trying to put Rangers back to a position of strength.This is not random but well orginised and can be witnessed on other media sights. The obsessed are all over us like a bad dose of hives at the moment putting out posts trying to pose as Gers fans and using voting buttons on whatever site to make it look like the majority agree with the anti Rangers stances being taken!
However like all lies and all hate campaigns the truth outs over time and over the next few months we will see if the share issue has been a good or bad idea, We will see where the money goes and we will see who owns Rangers after the share issue.
Time will tell if our young players are good enough to help get through the divisions.
Time will tell if Ally is a poor,good or Great manager.
Time is a commodity we did not have only a few months ago as we headed towards extinction before Green and Co saved us.Therefore I suggest we give all those whose job it is to ensure Rangers are Forever TIME! East Bear

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Lol has ally no had his time? Longer he stays the better tbh, he's one of the main characters in the comedy show!

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Some of that's true. But I don't think other fans have a conspiracy going, they're putting out their opinions as individuals.
There's a good number of posts by genuine gers fans who are not happy with Green or McCoist and the voting isn't split.

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Is it maybe not well informed scepticism more than anything? Were you one of the ones still believing Whyte was a billionaire when Ally asked he be back in January?
The facts about Green are apparent, he's had a string of floatation disasters; a string of liquidated companies; and he came on the scene with no declared backers and with strong rumours about having an agenda to deliver Ticketus's money.

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There is a campaign relevant to ally. its not organised though, its just that people will always find the same things funny and the general concensus among the celtic faithful is :
ALLY MUST STAY !

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Your posing questions on how rangers will be after the share issue.These questions should be answered BEFORE the share issue.
What makes you think it's non gers fans on here causing mischief.Are you assuming gers fans cannot think for themselves?

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Alternatively after Murray and Whyte many Rangers fans are sceptical about Mr Green (who has been caught lying on several occasions) and his largely un-named consortium.

These same fans may be genuinely concerned that his share issue - which has been rubbished by the FT and Financial Times.

As for Ally, I say keep him on but I know a number of long term Rangers fans disagree with me on that.

Free speech is a good thing and I like hearing different opinions rather than believing everybody who disagrees with me is part of a systematic plot by Celtic fans.

BARNEY BEAR

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Yup East Bear you caught us, over 2,000 of us dressed as Gers and booed at the end of the Stirling Albion game, how did you know? Similarly we got a Charles Green look-alike to claim 5 players from the 2012 Euros would be joining the club and that he had 20 backers. IT WAS ALL US. We're even subliminally messaging Ally to make him field players out of position and make some rank rotten signings.

Your "In Craig We Trust" tattoo, skingrafted or covered with a bandana?

Gaz

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He is an Ibrox playing legend and as our loyal manager, held us together during all the turmoil, therefore as a bluenose I concur with all the Celtic fans, on our site, that ALLY MUST STAY! Geo the Ger

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Why keep Ally on?

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Rubbished by the Telegraph and Financial Times I hould have said.

BARNEY BEAR

PS The Telegraph advised readers to avoid Rangers like prune juice and they don't have any agenda. If anybody wants to buy shares, fine. Good luck to them. I would see it more as a donation rather than an investment though.

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14 Oct 2012 18:09:44
just watched the jubiliant partick thistle players celebrating making it to the ramsdens cup final and have now got a big day at hampden to look foraward too, i wish it was us going there with a chance of silverware,i really do. who knows when the next time we'll have a big day out at hampden. changed days but we're getting what we deserve after a decade or more of financial irregularities. {Ed039's Note - the final is at Hamden?)

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Might not be that long away.IF we beat ICT then we will have a big game at hampden and the way things are going in the league we might have a title decider at hampden against Queens Park

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Think the final was only going to be Hampden if Rangers were in it.

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We.l have a big day at hampden next week. when we play queens park

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Next weeks game is at Ibrox.

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14 Oct 2012 16:53:16
Rangers chief executive Charles Green has apologised to Aston Villa for comments he made last week.
Green said a European league would be formed because "big teams can't keep subsidising small teams".
And he posed the question: "How can Manchester United's revenues be £320m and Aston Villa, who are completely useless, get £250m?"
Rangers said: "Mr Green has sent an apology to Aston Villa saying there had been no intention to cause offence." {Ed039's Note - yes but I am sure he caused it anyway)

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This wasn't a "taken out of context" faux pas, this was just sheer stupidity.The mask is beginning to slip folks, I think you have yourself a bona fide loose cannon with this one.

Gaz

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An apology is an unequivocal admission of guilt. He has brought the game into disrepute once again, by his own admission, and the SFA NEED TO HAMMER HIM.
The game needs discipline.

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Typical of this man and all his absurd statements.He should really need to keep his mouth shut.Has he also apologised to Southhampton for a similar statement.

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Re reply 2] the sfa have absolutely nothing to do with it and zero authority on such an issue. To be honest i am beginning to wish they had zero authority over anything.

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The sfa don't hammer nor punish anymore as they are usually found to be in the wrong.as they are useless.

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So compared to Man Utd, Aston Villa aren't a smaller team?

context is a wonderful thing

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14 Oct 2012 15:56:11
Alexander, Cole, Perry, Hegarty, Wallace, Shiels, MacLeod, Hutton, Templeton, Little, McCulloch SUBS gallacher, Cribari, Black, McKay, Aird, Naismith, Witorski, Hemmings.... Only way forward, the Greek and Faure on the right is rotten, Cribari has been poor, and lacks pace, Black has been pish and is not fit. Hutton has been brilliant wat we have saw of him, Little gets goals, and Templeton and Shiels switching flanks is the width we need. With Cole and Wallace bombing forward, give it a chance Ally.. LeJon {Ed039's Note - "the Greek guy" and faure are only playin on the right because of injury, when templeton and little are back that will change)

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14 Oct 2012 13:58:39
Charles Green has claimed the 140-year-old history of Rangers the day before the club formally goes into liquidation.

Following his failure to get approval for a CVA Green cut a deal with Duff and Phelps to buy the assets of the club for £5.5.

Six months later the Sevco chief is hoping to raise £20m on the stockmarket giving his mystery investors a four fold return on their investment.

The full details of the prospectus detailing assets and investors has yet to be published but the club did issue a statement this morning to the Alternative Investment Market (AIM).

Green said: "From the time we acquired the business and assets of Rangers FC, we indicated our intention to list the Company and provide our fans with the opportunity to invest in their Club. I am delighted that our plans are coming to fruition.

"Rangers is debt-free and a 'uge club with enormous support and a 140 year track record of success on the domestic and international arenas. Our aim is to return the Club to its glory days whilst ensuring it is run efficiently and profitably."

Malcolm Murray added: "Charles has done a great job to bring the Club back from the brink of extinction. We now move on to the next stage which is full recovery and growth. The fans loyalty has been instrumental in getting the Club on its feet and the IPO gives them the chance to have a say on club matters."

HMRC have appointed BDO to oversee the liquidation and the possibility of criminal activity in the running of the club.

Whether the AIM will approve the prospectus for the share issue remains to be seen.

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This is another nonsensical statement put out by a desperate man.Will Mr Green please stop with the "debt free" claims.This means that no monies are owed to Mr Greens investors? Even though he stated that the money spent so far was in the form of a loan? As for his puppet,Mr Murray,Mr Green did not save the club from extinction,if that was the case there would be no BDO liquidation and no three year Euro ban.We are now a new club starting in division three,why persist with this same club story? The fans have stepped up to the plate,season ticket wise,why the rush to get them to lay out more if the running costs are covered and there is no debt? With every utterance in the press this guy loses more credibility for me. AB.

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Lets be realistic no matter how many times we harp on about the history, it will never be erased in the mind of which side of the divide youy sit on, lets stop the wishfull thinking and get on with it

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A great. Post AB Does this man think we are idiots

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14 Oct 2012 17:53:48
Also all the doom and gloom stories and "Armageddon" without RFc in the SPL are now being proved wrong.
On BBC Scotland, Richard Gordon said that the average SPL attendances of most clubs were up. The ones that were down had not had a visit from Celtic yet so expected to go up also.
Most clubs home gates had risen so giving them extra revenue, the 50,000 RFc fans "lost" only put money into Ibrox. The away fans lost are being swallowed up with bigger home gates.
Another point made is that with an extra euro place up for grabs each year and more competition for it home gates will rise at more SPL clubs.
Factor in that becuse Celtic made it through to group stages of CL, each SPL club got another £100k
so even without RFc this season all SPL clubs will break at least even or make small profit. Timalloy

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14 Oct 2012 18:48:25
How can all the teams lose so much t.v revenue and still make a profit timmy ?.

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@4 Hey Timalloy talking mince again. Checked the attendance figures it is 5 clubs down and 5 clubs up. Both Ross and Dundee will be up due to joining the spl. Biggest laugh is your team the smeltic last season attendance 50904 this season 45348. Bet you cant wait till you play with yourselves to boost your average!

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The rangers are 5.5m in debt to the very man who says they are debt free.

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@6. Isnt that a bit obsessive ? Youre also comparing 2 différent statistics. Whole season ave with à few games ave. Hear from you in may maybe ? Everything is hunky dory.

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#1 - that puppet that you refer to is his boss - a basic grasp of corporate structure would help before having a pop

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@5 The drop in TV revenue was less than 10% of the previous deal, according to Dundee Utd chairman interviewed on Radio Scotland. On the same programme the Killie chairman also said that the financial armageddon predicted did not materialise for Killie.
Al

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@8 the attendances will only get worse over the next couple of months as winter sets in and it becomes apparent that certain teams will finish in certain places. The beginning of the season is usually when attendances are higher yeah but that's it keep up the good work doom and gloom stories are only true when they involve rangers

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Attendances will always drop no one has the money to spend anymore.money is getting tighter and tighter for everyone

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@9 We all know who the boss is.
Tam

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14 Oct 2012 13:45:23
ALLY McCOIST says one of the key factors for fans to consider about Rangers' intention to join AIM is that investment in shares will allow for long-term squad strengthening. The manager had just 42 days this summer in which to piece together a squad for the Third Division campaign before a year-long transfer registration embargo kicked in.

That left Gers having to go with the pool the currently have for this term, a combination of experienced SPL performers and emerging young talents. After seeing big names such as Steven Davis, Steven Naismith, Allan McGregor and Sone Aluko leave Ibrox in the close season, the group clearly isn't as strong as it used to be.

What a poor man. Imagine having only 42 days to put together a squad to win SFL3, with nothing other than " a combination of experienced SPL performers and emerging young talents". Agreed the squad is not as strong as it was – it does not need to be surely? (Don't call me Shirley).

Bearing in mind the stated ambitions to chop the salary bill, how did Mr McCoist imagine he could keep his team together?

And, in any event I suspect that the money spent by Rangers on new players (in fees, signing on costs etc) for this season exceeded everyone in the SFL put together, and probably most of the SPL too.

And finally, the embargo is a penalty for various offences, including the non-payment of tax, which allowed Rangers to make it to the end of the season, and without having to dispense with lots of the players during the season.

No recognition however of the fact that the embargo is a consequence of the actions of the former ownership, and the manager remains in situ.

But in the long term McCoist has a vision that will see Gers become the powerful force in Scottish football again – and that requires significant funding over a considerable period.

As I have said in these posts, nothing wrong with aiming high. The aim of becoming THE powerful force in Scotland…one suspects Mr McCoist might not be around to achieve it. The goal of reaching the top "requires significant funding over a considerable period". On what? Buying players? Is that not part of the slippery slope which led the Ibrox team to where it is now?

The hope is that being listed on the London Stock Exchange once again will allow Rangers to generate up to £20 million in additional finance for the club. Some of that will be earmarked for player recruitment and McCoist said: "The money will help in the sense we can make improvements to the stadium and bring in new players.

Why now, if the purpose is to raise cash for buying players? Surely, if the team progresses as Mr Green feels, and also as the money is not actually essential, it would be better to wait for results to be showing, and, with the proof apparent, the price would be higher, and greater sums raised?

"That's a big thing because we don't want to hang about. We want to get back to where we feel we belong.

"We don't want to hang about" – but when it comes to players there is not a choice, is there?

"There has to be realism about where we are and what has happened to the club but we do have a squad which we feel can get us out of the division.

We're not the same team we were a year ago. We've lost 28 or 29 players and we've got a completely new staff.

Not a completely new staff surely? And after all, Mr McCoist did manage to bring in a number of players, either ex-SPL or from abroad. If it was not good enough to win the SFL3, then why bother?

"We've got some good SPL players in with some younger kids and in SFL3, the immediate target is to get promotion. We should hopefully do that – it will be hard work and we know that because we've never said for a minute it would be easy. We believe we can get out of the division but we'll have to earn that right and once we do, we want to kick on.

"Our longer-term plan is to reinvest in the club in terms of personnel and new players so that we can return to top flight football in Scotland and European football."

Do you think the new mantra to be chanted is about Scottish and European football?

McCoist grew up supporting Rangers and has been with the club in many capacities, firstly as a player then a coach and currently as manager.

In his role as a shareholder in the club's new company, he has a desire for the proposed floatation to work – and believes that will motivate potential investors too. McCoist added: "I want this scheme to be successful. It has to be said that success on the park will result in success for the club's investors.

"That is very important because we have to have success on both fronts. They feed off each other. I know the money that comes in will be reinvested in the club and fingers crossed the club can do well to make for good investment."

Note the phrase " the club's new company"? Almost as if Rangers FC owns the company, rather than the other way round. Any confusion is accidental, I am sure.

The piece confirms Mr McCoist is a shareholder. That means that talking up the share value potentially is of financial benefit to him, but I would not suggest that is his motivation.

He is right though to say that success on the field will result in success for investors.

However, success for investors involves them (a) taking cash out in the form of dividends or (b) selling the shares for profit. Neither of those options benefits the club in any way.

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Once again Ally getting involved in things he should not be bothering about.He said often enough all he wanted to do was concentrate on the football side of things,so why the interest in high finance now? Are these rumours of an administration by Feb true? Is their any substance to them at all? I cant help but think supporters are being used for quick funding and that is wrong. AB.

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14 Oct 2012 18:52:00
How dare Ally get involved with the clubs finance, he should leave it to all the laptop lawyers. pmsl.

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Firstly green said it will be on the alternative market not the london stock exchange why because less rules and you dont need money in the bank ... green said he would make up any short fall in the 20 million so this is not an opportunity to invite supporters to have a chance to own a part of the club its because the club needs 20 million to survive... right now green and his consortium own 100 percent shares the the club so why would he invest his own money buying shares he already owns ?? the bottom line is the stories last week are true the club is facing the possibility of being liquidated unless he can find 20 million to keep it a float thats the facts ... fuzzy {Ed001's Note - I would think that Rangers would not qualify for a flotation on the main stock exchange anyway, so the less rules thing is irrelevant really.}

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#3 - is that the same reason Celtic are listed on AIM or does your inept reasoning just revolve around all things Rangers ?

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Fuzzy more like f,nny honestly where do you get such rubbish far from wishing rangers more financial difficulty you should be hoping they do recover in a strong financial position or your team will soon dwindle and Scottish football will die completely for anything to survive in a small country it needs a main rival just as big if not interest in that club will fade away this is the way things work in reality

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Ed the less rules is irrelevant but the fact you dont need any capitol isn't ...so why is he putting his own cash into a share issue that he already owns the shares in unless the club desperately needs the money ?? and @4 what has my point got to do with what celtic or any other club float on ?? the point is about green floating your club so why wouldnt my answer revolve round that club ?? {Ed001's Note - I fail to see your point? Ever thought it might just be a way to get back some of his money? I am sure no Rangers fan cares if he makes money, so long as the club is left in a good state.}

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Ed why would green put his own money into a share issue that he already owns the shares in to get his money back ?? would it not be his own money hes putting in that he would be getting back ?? and @5 where in my post do i say i wish more financial trouble for your club ?? calm down on the paranoia ... fuzzy {Ed001's Note - he would put money in as an investment. The idea being that he feels he will get more back in the future, just like any investment.}

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The point am making ed is why has green said he will cover any shortfall in the 20 million unless the club desperately need 20 million to keep trading why buy shares he already owns and why would he put his own money in just to take it back out again would he not be better just keeping it in his pocket ?? ...fuzzy {Ed001's Note - perhaps he has said that to make people feel safer investing?}

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14 Oct 2012 12:00:29
Can anybody tell me what Sandy Jardine's job title is?

""Sandy Jardine tells Rangers players they will be kicked out of Ibrox if they don't shape up.""
Is this his job? Surely it's Ally and Durant that need to shape up or ship out. So the strategy is to go through players until we have a group that performs for Ally?

Can Sandy please provide accounts for the RFFF money? Walter and he were running that. Returfing a field is £40k.

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What about all the Hotel stays RFFF administrators rack up? Who is paying for that? I also heard that there was a lunch gathering in a city centre hotel that the RFFF picked up the tab for.Why a hotel? Good restaurants at Ibrox and that would keep the cash in house.A full breakdown of the spending of the RFFF is needed soon. AB.

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I heard taxis, hotels, meals, drinks, .... were all racked up against the fund. Walter, Sandy and the third guy who were the official directors need to go public. Openness and honesty as Ally demands.

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14 Oct 2012 10:54:54
Rangers fans have already seen their original shares wiped out. In spite of Green's statements about the club living on, their claim to own part of it does not. I don't know how they square that circle, and as it's not my money I don't particularly care, but they should definitely think on it, and examine the inconsistencies and outright falsehoods, in the statements above, before they give this man another penny of their cash. Frankly, he insults them with displays like that. He is banking not on their tendency towards gut reactions but on the notion they are simply incapable of thought. He is calling them stupid, and he is doing it quite blatantly.

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Green's utterances are an affront to the intelligence of the general public not just Rangers fans.

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14 Oct 2012 03:52:03
Ed, Charles Green promised before the season ticket sale that all season ticket buyers would have a vote on three names for Auchenhowie. We bought the tickets but he has reneged on that promise. Why? Is issuing 36,000 ballots too expensive?

Has he been told that he's not getting to rename Murray Park? What's going on with this serious issue of promises and trust? {Ed039's Note - I think there will be a renaming on Auchenhowie. Maybe its not top of the agenda yet. Send an email to the club customer services, if you get an answer let me know the official line)

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12 Oct 2012 17:57:01
Ed - everyone knows Charles Green is a front for Jim Park (cousin of Douglas & and the money man behind Gers) CG was the only football related CEO with experience available at the 12th hour to front this charade. Jim doesnt want publicity because he has an on-going business relationship with Craig Whytes dad. PS.......watch the Parks of Hamilton contract at Ibrox dissapear.....Jim and his cousin dont get on.

Im fed up with the lies and obvious bluster of this clown cuckoo in the Ibrox nest....and I hope not one fan parts with a penny until the truth is told. Green is salaried employee of Jim Park!

no malice implied, no reason to lie, I am a gers fan........sick to death of this charade. {Ed039's Note - Hmmmmmmmmm, I am not so sure about that)

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Has the parks of Hamilton contract not been terminated already? What a load of tosh!

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No you got it all wrong I heard it was six sheep and a goat that now owned rangers and CG was there donkey sent in to do all the Sh,ty work that no one else would do. As for the parks thing have rangers not already stopped using them

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????. Jim park? Craig whytes dad? Really?

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Well I didn't know. And ill bet not too many more did neither.

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If this isn't it then its very close to it.
Total liquidation owing £160m to 276 creditors and Ally and his staff are still there and all 200 employees. If Green was independent of a puppet maestro 100 would have been laid off.
Someone who loves the club is looking after the employees. Green isn't a big money guy, he's a working CEO (bad one). If he was the owner he would have taken Chairman role. Park and Whyte are behind it. And SDM behind them. Ally knows he can't be sacked by Green. Remember SDM DROVE DOWN M8 to Murray Park to talk Ally out of resigning? Now it's Sir David Murray all over again. Full liquidation is what they wanted! Too much money is being spent. It's the £30m Whyte syphoned off. A stitch up on the taxpayer. They're using the RFFF money also. {Ed039's Note - Eever thought of writing fan fiction novels?)

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Ed not very nice response to 5. Ed do you believe green is the owner or do you think someone else is and green is just there pack mule and if so who do you think?? Me personally think there is someone else pulling the strings but won't pretend to know who {Ed039's Note - It was an honest response to a silly post. I think Green is the main man to be honest, if there was someone else in the back ground pulling the strings the media would be onto it and having a field day. I think that as soon as someone thinks of a theory alot of people run with it and assume it is true. I dont think he has the cash or the investors he claims to have, but I think he is the main man BUT i think he is under pressure to raise more money from the other investors)

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Maybe the above post is fantasy however there is something not right about the whole Rangers situation going back to when Murray owned the club. The way he sold the club to Whyte, the way Whyte ran the club, the administration followed by liquidation, the whole bidding process and now the share issue. I hope one day it all comes out but I doubt it. All I know is that the Rangers supporters have suffered something that should never have happened and although we have our faults our loyalty to the club is unwavering

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5 is as credible as anything else. in any other country murray and whyte would be getting doorstepped right left and centre. green keeps up with the daily torrent of nonsense to fill the gap where the truth should be going. are rangers fans with worthless shares going to go for it again ? i cant see what 20m can do other than pay the bills for a while. but its their own money to spend as they wish. celtic are well on their way to making that money just on cl.

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Haha Jim Park doesnt exist more lies

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Ed039 the media failed to spot ebt's and fact that 50+ players had then, fail to aee how the media would go for green, whyte or murry when in post.....

internet bampots only ones doing forensic analysis of each of greens statements.....

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