Rangers Banter Archive February 15 2014

15 Feb 2014 17:10:29
Just watched the match, 3 points job done, but I must comment on some of the tackles on Black, Templeton etc, the refs this season are worse than last, i'm all for sticking in the face of your opponent, but they are getting away with some shockers, especially when you look at the red cards issued to Rangers players this season, it will not improve until the refs get a rocket from their bosses, Scottish refs used to be top notch, this current lot, would struggle on a sunday league game, Rangers Always.

Bell one of best players, tells the story

Well done rangers another victory.

@ 1 think you will find reason bell was involved so much and had a great game was that we had an untried pairing at CB
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Another victory it was but were we miles ahead of ayr I don't think so don't forget the wage of one of our superstars would pay the complete somerset wage bill tea lady and all

We win and we get criticised. Why trawl so low? Ayr at home and running on adrenaline will give a lot of top teams a game.

I agree with a lot of the posts saying we must give more youngsters a starting place now but then again be careful of the demanding and critical fans we have. No wonder many talented youth players would rather go to Dundee United. We only have ourselves to blame when too many see the bad and the negative and not the good and the positive.

The really bad and negative thing that will put young lads signing is unless they are a favourite of ally they won't get a game for years celtic have always given youth a chance ally only follows in walters footsteps

Does anyone praise the team anymore? There was gers fans actually wanting us to get beat against dunfermline in the cup, they went out and skelped them, still little praise. So what if someone's wage would pay there entire team, we are rangers not Ayr, can only play whos on the park, people are too quick to be negative, am sure they are fans wanting admin 2 just to say a told you's so, well it was supposedly 2 weeks away, that's been and passed still nothing, a can't see it happining but am sure someone can.

Johncass did you see admin 1 happening?

Admin 1 happened because Craig whyte wanted it and aimed for it. a don't think wallace wants it or is aiming for it.

No one wants to see them get beat and I am certain there will be no administration but nothing will chsnge my mind ally must go

Fans on this did want Dunfermline to win

15 Feb 2014 02:45:48
Someone should gag McCoist. Yet again he's on about needing vast sums of money to buy players. All he does is give ammunition to Rangers critics and rub salt into the wounds of the creditors. One minute Wallace is talking sense about cutting the cloth and there's talk of scouting systems and looking at the Celtic model then Ally comes out with this £30M p*sh! Even if what he says has some truth in it, why mouth off publically? No humility, no class and if he gets his way it won't be long before no Rangers - permanently!

{Ed039's Note - He is an emabarrasment, the main reason he has been kept on so long is for Season Tickets, now alot of fans have turned off from him and his "loyalty" will no longer be rewarded by the fans turning out in the same numbers each week citing Super Ally as the reason and this might turn the board off as well. Another reason, and this is plain and simple, he is a yes man)

Ally wouldn't be manager if we had 30 million to spend.

{Ed039's Note - To be fair he isnt actually asking for £30m to spend but the interview is very embarrasing)

Just for the doubters we are glasgow rangers with plenty potential investors who would happily go along with ally on this one but we have to many spivs who put off potential investment. Why should we buy into we are skint when we have 36 thousand st holders world wide base and plenty potential investment get the heads together

{Ed039's Note - Because money is running out thats why we should buy into it, by hook or by crook, the IPO money has been fluttered away and we are on the brink)

Ffs all Ally said was that we lost £30 million worth of talent. Get off the guys back.

{Ed039's Note - Yes and by claiming we lost £30m in talent he isnt acknowledging that this was Rangers own doing, as we were hard done by, businesses lost out on payment also through Rangers doing, poor us though. This is where there is a lack of class and intelligence on the part of Mr McCoist. Said it once, say it a million times, quality striker, poor manager ....... learn how to seperate the 2)

Ed, agree that he isn't the best manager about, but look at it from his position. he signed on to do a (very well paid) job then lost the entire squad through no fault of his own. So he's saying now to compete at the top, the players he lost will need replaced.

Remember the criminals, past and present, are in the boardroom, not the dugout.

{Ed039's Note - Yes but he is the face that is put out there to represent the club. This represents everything that is hated about Rangers and the recent history of the club, a chance should have been taken to restructure from top to bottom but wasnt taken, Ally is very much part of that. A vision should have been presented to the crooks who bought the assets but they said, Here Ally, have some money, lets overspend and Ally said aye. This is one of my biggest problems with Ally McCoist)

McCoust was a rubbish manager before we lost £30m worth of talent

It's obvious the team needs investment but my point is why talk about huge sums like £30M when the club hasn't even got thirty quid? It sounds so arrogant and manipulative. I'm sure fans would rather hear about scouting, coaching and doing the right thing for the longer term. It must be a stab in the heart for the creditors every time Ally opens his gob. There's no way rangers can be back at the top in 2 years even if a mini abramovich came in. Wallace's 5 years is more realistic, as the Ed says ally's just a mouthpiece trying to con the fans out of more money for his mates on the board. He sounds like Greens apprentice so I won't be getting off his back any time soon.

The interview actially reads pretty well

The Rangers manager has stressed he will outline his requirements when Wallace completes his review of the company.

He said: "I don't have any doubt once he's done that review we will sit down and look longer term, in terms of players for next season, in terms of budget for next season, in terms of our scouting, in terms of Murray Park and development of football. "

Wallace is almost certain to implement cutbacks as many experts have predicted Rangers will run out of money by April.

But McCoist revealed that a fully-manned scouting network will be a priority before the club return to the forefront of the Scottish game.

He added: "Scouting is an immediate concern, particularly now as we are heavily in to the rebuilding process for the club, short, middle and long-term.

"It's staggering that we don't have a scouting department"

Also, Tactics, team selection etc aside, to suggest he is anything other than Rangers through and through is a disgrace.

@ Foxy and Ed - firstly I agree we are in the brown stuff and we do not have the correct manager for our desperate situation. We need/ needed someone who could manage a club on a budget- a small budget and that is not Ally's background/experience.
@2 Lots of potential investors- I hope you are correct mate but where are they?
But congratulations to Hearts and their excellent support. Where our Blue Knights and Billionaire talked a good talk but did zippo their fans signed up in their thousands to a monthly direct debit scheme and their millionaire injected £2.5million.
We are too good as a support at yapping and moaning but feck all good at saving our club.
I repeat well done Hearts and Hearts supporters - good luck to you and I take my hat off to you.

To Mr Murray and Mr McColl and Mr King- if you ever in the future decide to save your club- please do it quietly
and for the love of the club- not for the love of publicity. If you are doing it for the latter you will fail as you have so spectacularly failed on the last two very public occasions.

@8 Nbear well said spot on as usual

DK is not willing to pay 70p a share for a majority holding, he will invest by buying shares in any new issue which would devalue the original shareholdings. Basically he wants his money to go into the club not the shareholders pockets.

At the moment it is a game of poker, who blinks first, Rangers inability to raise funds is playing into his hands and they will need funds in the summer.

George

not been on a while as the amount of craig that been flying backwards and forwards between - the board give them time loyal, the allys***sperfumedtenners loyal, the SoS loyal (I have always thought the ask the 3 fair questions all still unanswered) and the RST loyal (I support the fans ownership thing) I feel is all counter productive and not doing what WE ALL want moving us forward.

been watching the football and happy as usual - winning and promoted 99% 2016 we are HOME all the craig we have been through has helped 'lose' 2 years strange but true for me

have to say though ally seriously is neverending in his ability to embarrass my club and us as intelligent people

typical ally classic - It's difficult to put a figure on it, impossible.

then he starts with the crazy valuations and the ludicrous estimate of how much we need to beat celtic, both implied within his statements regarding loss of players and the potential cost to win league back.

£30million? okay:

FIRSTLY let's take Lenny and his annual goal for the traditional celtic Oneble, he has not laid out remotely that bringing in his players and certainly didn't replacing a losing squad he started with against Walter and one of I think our GREAT wee squads considering financial TSB constraints so he does not have a team of world beaters there we know that and as judged by their cup form in ALL cups nothing to fear.

SECONDLY let's look at what for me should be the Rangers model McInnes and the team that plays below inverness but above dundee (on a map) they have not laid out £30million or £3million nearer £1.5million
The TOTAL value of their squad is roughly the value of Lee Wallace Nicky Law Lewis MacLeod and Cammy Bell (if you factor in the salaries we pay and they pay)
Ok you might say being unfair to the pursewelders but seriously did you see a signing McInnes made that Ally would have had the good sense to and a wage structure to match I might add? No I didn't think so either.

Now let's see, Aberdeen outplayed Celtic at the McCannoset Stadium so, SERIOUSLY, how much do you think a good football manager, Mr McInnes being the ONLY person I have mentioned to date on here to qualify for the job description, would need to upgrade the current flock of sheep to win the SPFL next year?

My guess McInnes is going to spend £2m he will get for League Cup win and his share of spoils for taking muttonmob to a glorious runners up place in the Scottish Cup (ok I might be dreaming here as I feel if it is us and them in final he cannot possibly lose a tactical battle with ally saddens me to say but cheers me up as maybe we might sack n hire based on that)

anyway I will as for now wait, watch and see, my honest hope I have now is that we are at last being shown how to do as Hearts have done (AGREE with posters, love they fact they have saved their club the right way) buy our club as fans or at least a major/majority say in its running and control. lafs can you imagine ally coming to us as fan owners with his demands and grand designs with the cost and wage structure he would want? yes 50000 boots straight out the door its one thing loving ally as a supporter its a whole different ballgame if you are paying for his fantasy football.

RTID

george

Ed is right macoist is a yes man yes he must go unfortunately with the contract that he has not read is now virtually unbreakable and yes ally macoist is only for ally macoist and nothing else

By the way there is no way stewart milne will let derek mcinnes spend 2 million juddge derek on 2years results not one

{Ed039's Note - They will not spend a penny on transfer fees)

15 Feb 2014 01:43:53
wee word of respect for the loss tonight of an English football genius Tom Finney.

No big wages, no big ego, no big head but a barrowload of talent. ( the oldies out there will know what I mean )

RIP Sir Tom

Wee Bill