Rangers Banter Archive January 15 2012

15 Jan 2012 23:22:59
So refreshing to watch swansea pass the ball the way they do, the football we are playing is utter dross compared to them.

Down to Ally.

Can't believe someone pressed disagree, u must be easy pleased if your happy with the football we are playing

I agree. It pains me to watch us play right into Celtics hands when we play the long ball up to the strikers cos lets face it they are pi5h. When we play quick passing football and get the balls slipped in behind we tear them apart. The way we have been playing recently though is of a very poor standard which i don't even think would have us at the top of the English Championship.

I disagreed, because we don't have the players to play like that mate.....even a wee club like Swansea with a 20,000 seater stadium are lightyears ahead of us now....it hurts like f*** but its true.

Surely we can pass the ball better than other spl teams though. Several times our midfield have struggled to dominate a game. They are still professional football players being paid bigger wages than the rest of the spl

Aye...you're probably right there, i posted the above, but i take your point, especially at home, the Well game was the best for ages, and it was because Ally was forced to play healey and Fleck, so no long back to front ball...so mibee we've been missing the midfield out too often....wee Davis is getting a bit of a bashing just now, but i think a bit unfair, he's not got much help round about him.

Agree. I like Davis and he hasn't been at his best but it's definetely coincided with naismith being out. There isn't a balance to our team just now.

To be fair swansea did pass arsenal off the pitch in the 2nd half and as soon as arsenal got the ball 2 or 3 players smothered them till they lost the ball! Kinda like barcelona do

Agree, most teams with a young manager play good passing football or at least play to a pattern which is apparent. We have the young manager but no style. We have hash bashed in most games and it has been hellish to watch at Ibrox bar the second half against Celtic and the Well game. I would have kept Fleck in the team and put Davis on the bench. I might be wrong, but I thought that Fleck and Edu looked more comfortable together and took responsibility. If we've no cash and no faith in Ally's alleged signings lets go with the home grown talent and try to play a brand of football that entertains and gives the fans some optimism, because the way we are playing just now we will stutter again soon.

15 Jan 2012 21:51:53
First post lads. Just to say that the tax case resumes 2moro and runs 4 3 days. Ally says that he will have his fingers crossed. So do we all!!!!!

15 Jan 2012 19:46:32
I think the problem with Davis is he is the captain and worried about everyones game and how they are preformoing that his game is affected. Ally should put captain America in charge on the field and take the pressure of Davis

Spot on my friend, it is more then a coincidence that his form has suffered since the armband was given to him

james rfc 1980

Ehhh ! He's crap armband or not .

Players need to leave before any come in, whether as buys or freedom of contract deals. This has been the financial reality for some time, but we still have irate bears screaming for us to sign Weiss or bring in a striker or a full back or whatever. It is painful, I know, but you`re absolutely right my friend - we need to be realistic!

Being an ulsterman is good enough for some fans.

15 Jan 2012 19:20:36
I see the police have made an arrest on a 41 year old man for the Racist comments on Edu and Bartley on Twitter, I am wondering if he is someone's father and if so how are his kid(s) going to look at him, Wouldn't expect that sort of thing from a 14 year old never mind a grown man,

Pete

It is disgusting,throw the book at him,no player,at any club should have to put up with that ,its shames Scotland,we might not be perfect,but i never thought we would face the horror of racism.

The problem is that his kids (if he has them) might have been indoctrinated with the same filth that he put on twitter. That's how racism, sectarianism etc. often continues, passed down from moron to moron.

Racism is wrong but it only seems to be taken into the hands of the law whenever it's against a person who isn't white.

We have all been guilty of racism and sectarianism at some stage in our lives but sadly its only when well known people are abused the public open their mouths.

The man should be named and shamed, i've heard they've made an arrest but yet to see a name, why? He's an embarrassment to himself, his family and the club he claims to support.

DazzaBhoy

How can we get graig burley off espn been trying to get in contact to moan at them that they have the worst scotland player ever working for them he was a dud in his playing days and still a dud now gazza

15 Jan 2012 17:42:54
Well not a signing anywhere near us yet, fellow bears don't know aht you think? But i know we always leave it late on the window, but time is ticking, we need at the very least two new signings?

It's a must FFS, middle man and striker required.

15 Jan 2012 16:59:04
whoever rangers bring in in january the team needs a massive freshen up, people might not agree but i think its mabey time for Davis to go, hes not kicked a ball since the first few games of the season, its like rangers have the view now becoz he cost 3 million and is on 25k a week it would be a club disaster to drop him, its actually probably what he needs a couple of games on the bench to let him rethink in his head how hes playing, give fleck a chance, we need a whole new midfield, a bit of new thinking, people that can actually pass the ball to each other and open up things for the strikers, give mckay and bedoya a game for god sake absolute joke, the fans cant have an opinion if we dont see these guys play, i would sell Edu aswell hes a very very average player, i do admire his work rate and i do believe he njoys playing for us but hes just not good enough in my opinion, our best player is sasa papac, i dont care what anyone thinks, the guy is brilliant every game, Mr Reliable he deserves whittikers wages.

Rid of Davis? Who do we replace him with?

I wouldn't get rid of Davis but I do believe he needs left out for a game or two. Most other coaches and managers wouldn't play someone who wasn't performing but it seems at Ramgers your name or being friends with the copaching staff will keep you on the starting 11. I also think the captaincy has hindered him instead of brought out the best in him. For me he hasn't played well all season apart from 2 games.

Can't believe you are saying play bedoya and mackay so that the fans can make up their mind. It's not the fans that will get the sack if he plays them and we get stuffed. Ally is not playing them because they are not good enough.

15 Jan 2012 16:13:55
St Johnstone striker Fran Sandaza says he rejected a pre-contract offer from Rangers because he did not want to be a 'cheap' option.

The 27-year-old Spaniard is out-of-contract in the summer and the Scottish champions are keen to seal his signature ahead of a switch at the end of the season.

Sandaza, though, says he is not ready to sign any pre-contract because he believes in his own ability.

"I don't think I will sign any pre-contract because I trust my possibilities. In this league I can score more than 20 goals and if someone wants me they have to want me enough," he said.

"I think I'm a good player and I have worked so hard to get to this level - so I don't want to go to any club cheap."

Saints boss Steve Lomas has reacted with anger at Rangers over their handling of the situation.

"Rangers are a big club but unfortunately they're behaving like a little one," he said.

"I'm sure they must be feeling slightly miffed they can't go out there and pay for a Sandaza. I'd be worried, especially as this is a guy who has six months of his contract left.

"I'd be extremely worried if I was a Rangers fan now.

"There should be more leadership from the top. Ally has a difficult job as it is because of the finances. But this wouldn't happen if David Murray was at the club, he wouldn't let it."

Aye David Murray would have spent more money and left us in more s**te

Lomas is a little too 'honest'. Can see him getting in loads of trouble with the beaks. Heart on sleeve.

15 Jan 2012 16:01:07
Here's one for you guys and girls. With all the talk about players picking money over medals what us fans do? Would we like our club to sacrifice trophies in order to go down south and make more money, thus possibly getting a better calibre of player or would we rather continue wither in quality but still win? Thoughts folks

We might have to wait for 3 or 4 years but with the money available down there we would be challenging for top place as we have a better setup and support than most of them so would attract better players

It should be called MONEYBALL because that is what it has became down in England and other countries

Man city had a net loss of 194M but that is no trouble for them it makes me sick

It's all high time for Man City at the moment but in time, whether it be in 5 years or 20 years, they will come crashing down to Earth with a bang......

These Sheikh owners aren't going to be about forever......

TTG

The EPL bubble will BURST !!! The amount of debt they clubs are in is disgusting and if, and when SKY's bubble PoPs !............ the shockwaves and misery will be reverberating around the globe like an earthquake........ The End is Nye for EPL, so be careful what you wish for Bears {Ed001's Note - Sky is not that important any more, internet and mobile rights are going to be worth more in the next couple of years.}

15 Jan 2012 14:46:15
I'm sure I've seen Tade of Inverness talked about on here before. At the time I thought the guy was nowhere near good enough but I watched them at Fir Park yesterday and the guy was outstanding. Big, quick, tremendous "engine", pretty skillful and a good attitude working hard to cover back when needed like all Terry's players. Didn't think he was a very clever finisher but he certainly took his goal well yesterday. A bit "raw" still maybe but could be the kind of player who could really develop with better players. I didn't think Aluko was of the quality required, certainly in terms of consistency, but from what I've seen so far at least, I'm happy to admit I was wrong on that one.

I have saw Ally Graham score that type off goal,once every season.When I use to go down to watch Ayr.And saw plenty off Tade,in his Raith days.For a big man,he was awful in the air.And even rubbish one on one,with the keeper.And he is hardly a young player.The guys been around for ages,he is He is 25 hardly raw,he should be better at that age.We can do better than him.If we start scouting around the world.We are not that desperate,there is plenty off players we could look at.Who are internationals still playing in there own nations.Ally

Ally Graham was a legend!

Tade is mince, bit like Sandaza......they have found there level at clubs they enjoy playing for without any pressure.

If Tade/Sandaza were at ibrox they would feel the pressure and would be found out.

DazzaBhoy

15 Jan 2012 14:33:17
FFS its all doom and gloom on here the day eh. I think its high time Whyte gave Ally a bit of backing and made a public statement to the fans about our transfer policy and if funds are going to be made available for any new signings though. Although i doubt he will. Getting Aluko signed on a new contract should be a priority, had my doubts about the boy but he's been a standout for us in the last few games.

Gerry The Ger.

Of course it's all doom and gloom!!! Where have you been? The club haven't been in a worse state of affairs off the pitch!!!! We can't afford a flash in the pan striker from st Johnstone and you have players having to contribute to their own compension fee's!! Fans need to wake up!! The price of a home game you could get into most EPL games!! It's unacceptable!! So yes for me it is doom and gloom!!!

If Mr Whyte told the truth to the fans I think it would be all over hes got to keep fans coming through the gates and sponsors believing that everything will be fine. I think this tax case is just the start of it, after thats done I see UEFA bringing trouble to the door with our unaudited accounts etc

Well personally i'll give Whyte until the end of the transfer window before i make a full judgement on him. If you can't wait that long why are you on here raging about it? Surely you would be better served outside Ibrox letting your voice be heard?

Gerry The Ger.

Oh and my reply was meant for Mr Doom and Gloom. Obviously not got the baws to add a name to his post. On that note ed why not make it compulsory for people to tag their posts?

Gerry The Ger. {Ed014's Note - People who tag their posts do get priority over anonymous posts and it is hard to know if they are serious or at the wind up.We don't really pay much attention to the anonymous posters,for example, 'I think.....' with no name is nonsense as nobody knows who 'I' is.

Gerry the Ger
Ok mate, no problem, let's give Mr W more time then, we'll have this discussion again...see what your feelings are then! Why is there such a majority of whyte supporters seem to think he will pull a rabbit out the hat? It's NEVER happening!!

To Gerry the Ger
It's Mr Doom and Gloom here...I will now tag my comments with 'AG the Realist'....hopefully now that I tag my comments this shows I have BAWS (lol)
AG the Realist'

I never said I was a Whyte supporter, just another assumption you have made. The jury is still out for me, i don't know if he is just being really clever or is actually a brazen conman. How can we have this discussion again if you don't tag your posts? Nobody knows who you are.

Gerry The Ger.

Right got u AG the Realist. Not saying you're wrong mate, not saying you're right either. The fact is nobody knows exactly what Whyte is YET. He could be a conman, no doubt he's a slippery bassa. Or as i said he could just be really clever and is waiting until the tax case is over before showing us his true colours. Either way nobody else is willing to take the club on it seems.

Gerry The Ger.

To Gerry the Ger
I (AG the Realist) have not took the time to add comments on this website to upset fellow supporters. I am very much in support of mccoist and believe he is doing the best he can with what tools he has been given but the runnings of the business side of things are well below par!!

Right AG we'll see how it plays out. You're almost up to Buster Gonad's standards now btw lol. If Whyte is conning us and I emphasise "if" I can't see how he thinks he will get away with it.

Gerry The Ger.

Whats the talk doing the rounds about jim mcColl takeing over Rangers , could their be anything in this, just asking the question please no snide comments.

15 Jan 2012 14:08:08
Does anyone kno whats up with ness? He was the only decent prospect aswell as Wylde we had to look forward to this season! Also think tht we need a ankle biter in midfield as no one wants to go win a ball for us in ther!

He was born with one leg slightly longer than the other which results in continuous groin strains etc

15 Jan 2012 13:27:23
To the t*t who says we're not real fans who say mcoist is out of his depth seriously I bet your so far up the blue order ass you can't see we're getting passed off the park by teams like st mirren, st Johnstone , killie, so get a grip were tactically horrendous playing to many defensive players still playing players that should have been dropped months ago or out of the club, players playing out of position to make sure they get a game

You are on here all the time ya muppet complaining about everything. Do yourself a favour and give up being a fan FFS. You are depressed son. Go to the doctor.. Start going to the football and start shouting your mouth aff their. You will soon be brought down a peg or two.
In Ally We Trust
I1984

This is the zoomer that hits the agree button about 20 times fur himself lol. Watch that agree button shoot up lmao
I1984

Can you really get 20 agree shots, I normally only get 2, lol.

15 Jan 2012 10:06:00
I think Fleck should leave Rangers ASAP, and play for a manager that knows what he's doing. He played very well in 2 different positions in the two previous games, then Ally boots him in the baws. Ally seems to not like this boy and it seems like he holds a grudge, the same grudge he seems to hold for Mackay aswell. How would Ally have handled say Gazza, Wee Mo, or even a young Ally Mccoist?. Freeze them out the team, no doubt. It would have been a tad unfair on Healy, but he's the player that should have been left out today in my opinion, we should have went 4-4-1-1. Even at 1 nil up today and st johnstone taking the game to us, I thought the obvious thing to do was take Healy off and put fleck on, changing to 4-4-1-1 and giving us an extra body in midfield, but Ally just stood with his hands folded looking lost, he also seems to be caught up in the game to the point where he forgets he can make subs. Ally is chucking the league away because he does'nt really know what he's doing at times, and also because he holds these wee petty grudges with players. In saying that Ally did'nt rate Jardel either. Mabe John Fleck should take a pot of tea onto the bench with him. Now who did that again?.

We won the game and it is easy to sit and make observations about how to manage a professional football team, WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW THE FIRST THING ABOUT IT............ So, SSssssshhh

When Sir Walter was in charge people moaned and groaned about how he was to defensive and we should play 2 up front now McCoist trys to be more attacking and you slate him i have grew up watching amazing Rangers teams and i have grew up watching terrible Rangers teams but at the end of the day i stick by my team no matter what and that includes the manager at the end of the day its his first job as manager and hes the Rangers manager one of the hardest out so give him the chance in Ally I Trust

WATP
BIG CRAIG

It was always goin to be Fleck with Davis fit, but I do think he should of dropped Healy and went with a 4 - 4 - 1 - 1. Wee fleck in behind Jela would be good.

Ally mccoist should never be rangers manager he don't got a clue, we need a change of ideas he's more negative then Walter and I didn't think that wad possible, he's only the manager cause he's a cheap option.

Don't agree will dropping healy he didn't do much but having 2 upfront gave jelavic more space in the box

Ha ha, the first replier has his cap locks on, I guess thats me told. I know it's a bit harsh with Ally being a legend, and one I have had the pleasure of meeting a couple of times, but the clubs bigger than any staff member. I now see that Fleck is heading out of ibrox ( sunday post) If Ally lets Fleck go then that says everything about the style of football that will be on offer, because Fleck is one of our most attacking players. Also the 2 games Fleck played in we created loads of chances.

For a start his name is mr Walter smith not sir Walter smith.

Not got a clue & the cheap way out ? Yeah but it's the same at parkhead with Lennon. If anything ally should be doing better than Lennon has he had smith for a few years behind him ? Lennon had no one ok had oneil & strachen on speed dial. I don't know much about this fleck how good/how bad he is but in my eyes looking inside out he's a young lad with a bright career a head that a team like the old firm can stop hence why Scott Allan & this lad from airdrie want to go down south ? Rangers don't have a young team so these guys like fleck should get a good run as they have a better sell on factor unlike mc culloch,goian,etc? Which In the long run make you money ?

Lenny

Thats a good point Lenny regarding Fleck, and with the financial situation the way it is, the last thing Rangers or celtic can afford to do is chase good young talent out of their clubs. Fleck will go to another club and shine, while we will be left with mcculloch, Healy etc.

Lol at the people hitting the disagree button. 3 people disagree with what I said ? Seriously man half a brain will tell you I'm talking sence. Young players make you money ? Something that both if not the whole spl is crying out for

Lenny

Green tinted specs,,,,trueblue...

Eh? Green tinted specs?? What you on both sides of the "old firm" need to start bringing in young players and selling them on for a decent profit.

Hutton £9mill
Cuellar £8mill
Petrov £7mill
McGeady £10mill

Where would our clubs be without these fees?

DazzaBhoy

15 Jan 2012 07:09:53
Good luck to Dean Windass i hope he can beat his demons.