Rangers Banter Archive May 15 2012
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15 May 2012 21:57:02
the best way forward for rangers is to take our punishment ,preserve the integrity of scottish football thanks to the disgraceful stewardship of david murray and get relegated to the 3rd division,this is the only way...then we can rebuild what's left and never let this happen again,move onwards and upwards
rangers till i die
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And you would have the respect of every other decent fan in scotland...........green jhedi
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Confucius say..."Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall"
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Why should Rangers go down to sfl3 did Motherwell or Dundee?
Going down to the bottom league is only giving the Rangers haters what they want.
They don't really care about integrity or Scottish football they just want the league rigged so a certain team wins everything every season.
The devastation that would happen to the spl again plays into a certain teams hands if Rangers are not in it, we've had 4 clubs more or less saying they need Rangers in the spl St mirren,ICT,Killie and Dundee utd.
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Thats the most sensable post yet from a bear if yous all had that attitude we tims and other fans would have some leyway on are oppinions but to think that 160 grand fine and a year embargo is harsh is just laughable
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About the only bear with a bit of common sense//Well said..stevo
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Why this talk about SFL3? There is not and can not be a rule that makes that happen because SPL and SFL are different structures. It's SPL or out.
However, the SFL might be amenable to offering the space thus created to Rangers as per their own rules. The same rules that usually allow teams from below to join SFL3 but also allowed Gretna to join from the English system.
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Why do most deluded Fans ( Not Genuine I must add ) Think Everyone HATES Rangers. It's "Fans" (loosely) Like this that makes most people "Dislike "them not their club.
Get a life and grow up.
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15 May 2012 21:20:11
Nothing to do with the mighty glasgow rangers but as a slight change of subject.
What is all your thoughts on that f*d joey Barton. Had that been neil Lennon or diouf when he played for us Done this the first minister would be pulling them up to parliment for a stern talking at.
I seem to remember big drunken Duncan ferguson getting charged for sticking the nut on a player don't you think this should merit the same punishment given his previous?
Thoughts please
Jamie
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I think he is a complete knob, hope he never kicks a ball again, makes you sick he earns about 100k + a week...
craig+babybear
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QPR say he's till has Future at QPR
I am f'ing speechless
Get rid - end off- seem to remember a past Rangers captain being sine died ( spelling?) for less
bil72
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We are Rangers FC, not Glasgow Rangers!
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Yes Barton should face the courts especially for the deliberate premeditated kick. Failing that he should be banned for a season which will probably mean QPR terminating his contract. He might sign for a Scottish club, though? (Or maybe a Turkish club).
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15 May 2012 20:04:42
Heard that SFA plan to keep low
profle while Green20 talks CVA.
McCoist and Fans should demand
who is behind the Green20...
we have all been to hell and back.
Who owns the training ground
Who owns the stadium
Who owns the players
Who owns the shares
Who are the Green 20
Mr Green we need clarity from the Start..
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Devils Advocate here!
The guy did say he would fill every one in when the deal was complete
There's still a bit to go before we start to crucify the guy FFS!
bil72
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Spot on bil.
Green stated the investors will not be revealed until cva agreed or such times as they are comfortable with. There is no need to name these guys at this stage imo, agree that the issue with stadium n murray park should perhaps be clarified but im pretty sure green would expect to take us over with a stadium n training facility included in any deal.
I mean if green came out n named these guys what would stop a premiership club from approaching the investors and suggesting they invest their money in their club??
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Green is probably right. If the CVA fails then it doesn't matter who these people are. Then the SFA can look at them regarding the newco.
I can see why the FA are wanting to know the names, though. Imagine if one or more of them really are unsuitable. Like where has their money come from? They must do their due dilligence.
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15 May 2012 19:46:00
Celtic fan come in peace, now that
you seem to be movin forward a wee
question to fair minded bears. Do you
feel it wud be fair to do a cva/ newco
and not pay your debts properly. Then
go out and spend millions on players,
surely cant be right. Myself I wud do
a transfer embargo till all footballin debts
paid in full, but also allow free agents
to join.What u think.
Rayman
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Mmm can't see that working somehow sfa and spl clubs all hypocrites want us penalised and sanctions issued left right and centre,keep claiming wee should be punished and demoted yet still want us for revenue so before fans of other clubs start to criticise then why don't you all get your own high morals sorted firstly before commenting on others.transfer embargo means no signings free or payment involved,I personally think it's harsh why should the current team suffer for years of miss management it ain't right and there is no justification for it.yes we deserve to be punished but it appears that the rules on punishments are being written amd made up on a weekly basis depending on what dirt can be dug up on rangers.has every other team been made to declare all board members and members of consortiums a don't think so.it truly stinks a for one say sod the spl.
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If we get a cva then free transfers if ts a newco we should spend
trueblue
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Would keep transfer embargo in place clear as many creditors as posi sign players out of contract for next season take it from their ... Kenny bluenose
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I am in complete agreement with you,however the potential buyers for the club were not responsible for that debt - so is it fair to ask them to repay it all? BlackpoolBear
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I agree with the transfer embargo until footballing debts paid, was going to post the same but your lot would simply shout about the other creditors, what's your thoughts there?
Lets see how many shout you down for it.
However a CVA is a legal route, while not morally right, and when in business if you don't take the business route then you close.
The difference here is the business route and the footballing route. People will always shout football is a business until it is one of your rivals. Your club claim that they are a well run club. Football or a business? cos you've been balancing the books since 2010 and one league championship in 4 years, nothing in Europe.
Good point to allow free agents cos that is what they are. Somebody who costs nothing to employ but wants paid for his duties, seems reasonable. It is a free country after all.
I don't usually believe there is such a thing as a celtic supporter in peace only one that wants an answer, and I have a good number of them.
I don't remember the shouts from the celtic support when Dundee, Motherwell, Gretna, Greenock Morton,Clydebank, Airdrie, Livingston, Clachnacuddin, never mind the huge list of English teams who went into admin and about paying their debts properly.
Do you not think that the SPL and SFA should have made their minds up about admin and a newco in 2008 when Gretna went into admin and liquidation? Be good to hear your thoughts there.
But fair play to you good post hope you respond.
Cheers.
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The problem is that a CVA means that you cannot pay one creditor more than another. In Scotland football debts are treated like any others. So we can't pay football debts in full and only pay others pence in the pound. I wonder if the SPL withheld prize money and settled football debts directly if that would solve the problem.
I feel that it would be difficult to justify spending money on transfer fees weeks after a CVA.
I think vote may be that we can spend what we bring in, so if we sell £5m we can spend £5m. I think that would be a reasonable solution
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Sod the spl lol, seems its everyone elses ffault but your own. If you got to div 3 you will have a worldwide emargo for 3 yrs as no decent player wud want to play there. you mention why shud current team suffer? On that rationality you can only punish previous teams, and only way to do that is to strip all trophies wu you rather that lol. Rayman
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P.S where was the critcisism. Rayman.. (Noticed u didnt leave a name)
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Why should the current team suffer for years of mismanagement?
Think level playing field. Due to this mismanagement the playing field had been tilted very much in Rangers favour. The only way to redress the balance is to tilt it in the favour of those who were cheated for a while. Had Rangers not cheated, other clubs may have had more success and I don't just mean Celtic. Isn't it only fair to give them that chance of success now, even if it is only for a season.
As for the transfer embargo itself, totally fair considering the facts stated in the SFA document. Seems you were luck to retain your license to play. So you where let off there. As for morals, have you no shame. You think its okay to give the creditors a fraction of what they are owned then rub their face in it by then finding multimillion of pounds for players? Remember, some of these creditors are other football teams you bought players from and have not paid in full.
Is it any wonder why fans of the other teams hold you in such disdain. Do the right thing or forever have a black cloud over your club.
Al
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Still to learn about this ' CHEATING' lark
Anybody
bil72
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Bil72,
mis-use of EBTs is a fact. Your team has been found guilty of this, i.e. being able to attract players with wages you would not have been able to afford legally. Sounds like cheating to me. And before you say the jury is still out on the EBT case, they are out on how much you have to pay back not guilt.
True the dual contracts is still ongoing.
This season, would Rangers not have been in administration sooner had they been paying the taxman? Would they still have finished second in that case? Would they still be in existance. Sounds like cheating to me.
Al
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What would you like to know bill? Which bit dont you understand?
You do realise that any Rangers fan just looks daft when they pretend that they have done nothing wrong!
The SFA's independent enquiry noted that the only thing worse in Rangers case would have been match fixing! The way your club has operated has given them a financial advantage over the other clubs in the SPL otherwise known as CHEATING.
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@ 10.) A lot of people/fans see operating out with your financial means as cheating. It's not however, just against the rules, seem to remember something about a max of 68% of turnover on wages or something. I'm sure someone will correct me. Scott.
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15 May 2012 16:43:37
I see the nearly extinct bears have the deluded still amongst there ranks.."Transfer Embargo overturned",,"Transfer fees of millions from sale of players to spend",,Greens took over from Minty Moonbeams with his pipe dream visions.."1billion to be raised"Millions for war chest",,"Champions league every season",,He knows a CVA is not going to happen,just pandering to the desperate bears..Men of mystery from indonesia,singapore(watch out for the match fixing,lol,as about only thing rfc not involved in)....Even if transfers were allowed,no club is going to do buisness with some newco,with a dodgy& corrupt past haunting them from there former defunct club....stevo
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.....Whats wrong Stevo?......are they big bad boys at Rangers not gonna let you Tims win everything for ten years without a fight.....thats a shame so it is......just at the time when you had the SPL, SFA and referees all in the bag, they bad Rangers boys refuse to play ball and die.....well as a former custodian of the mighty Glasgow Rangers once said "We Welcome The Chase"......oh and Stevo, just remember......thats all it is for Celtic....a chase.....54 and a whole lot more.....chase me!! xx
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You sound abit worried there mate.
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Your not going to get a cva and the spl teams will vote with integrity to make sure any new co that you tax dodging cheats form will have to start in div 3 your support will fall away you'll have no money to spend on players and even if you do manage to claw and scrape your way back into the spl you won't be able to compete with a celtic team thats just had four years of champions league football you will wither and die stevo and celtic have nothing to fear.
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Worried???Chase???RFC will liquidate& die thats a certainty..The only chase will be for mid table for the newco zombie fc...as for 54,the ebt enquiry will bring more shame&disgrace on rfc,we have them all in the bag?PARANOID about your PARANOIA ,??..stevo...ILWT
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He's mocking you!
Miko x
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He's not worried Gazza72.
Just pig sick and raging that we might survive as a club, and with our history intact. That's all it is stevo...is it not? lol
C'mon the Gers,another 140 of history to be continued.
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Its the 15th of May and Rangers are still alive Stevo
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Miko...Miko...Miko...
My deluded friend..stevo mocking?
It's just another rant of a bitter man, getting a tad upset,that Rangers Football Club, might just survive.
Optimistic Bear
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4 years of champs league haha utter nutter when was the last time you were in it to begin with
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@3 A cva is doubtful in the current climate but not impossible as for spl chairmen voting with integrity they will vote as they see fit in the best interests of their club(Rangers in the spl and their obvious economic benifits that they bring intact).As for a celtic team even qualifying for the champions league proper 4 years in row now that is pure fantasy and the idea of our coefficient increasing without our participation (us in division 3) is well honestly laughable.
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@6: aren't you the 'fan' who said he'll enjoy Rangers' survival mainly because Celtic fans will be annoyed?
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Should that not be annHoyed ;-)
bil72
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15 May 2012 16:42:24
Scottish Media makes me laugh, first we had the Whyte Knight, then The Blue Knights, then The Green Knight and wait for it, the Sun now reporting that if the Green bid fails, a group calling themselves The New Knights are waiting to step in to save us from liquidation. The sooner this nonsense if over with the better. All we want to do is watch football FFS.
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New knights more like sleepless nights
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15 May 2012 15:27:57
With regards to the Ranger’s BTC, Surely SDM would have taken expect financial advice from financial experts regarding the EBT scheme? Surely then if we are found guilty then the experts who said we should use the EBT’s, should cover the debt owed to HMRC via their “professional liability Insurance” for providing negligent advice?
What are your thoughts?
Makka
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Rangers took advice and paid 7million £ per annum for it from none other than MIM. All on public record. Who they took advice from would have a disclaimer anyway
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@1 a professional such as a accountant etc wouldn't escape liability with a disclaimer, it's not allowed by the very nature of the professional liability .
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I am really in the wrong bloody job then - so all I need is a disclaimer, charge 7 mill per year & 'it's not my fault mate'
For me the problem is this MIH ran all Financial dealings, MIH paid all the bills and advised on legal issues, AND MIH are the ones fighting the BTC
Can anyone else see the common theme here, maybe that's why the final decision is taking so long
bil72
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Fair point re disclaimer. I stand corrected
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The accusation is that the advice was ignored, setting up an ebt, the loans out need to be at the discretion of the trustee, no football agent is going to agree to a trustees discretion in terms of bonus payments, this is the side letters issue, I don't know if guilty of this or not but the professional advices and the company's which implement ebt schemes do stress the discretionary bit
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Your right they did seek advice, probably, as well did other clubs and the other clubs decided to not use them because it was to dodgy to risk and so all other clubs chose not to.
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I may be wrong but dont companies only need to hold accounts for 6 years as that is the maximum time limit on being chased for debt owed, its the one thing that annoys me about the whole ebt scenario, it started in 2000 or 2001 cant remember exactly which and the rules didnt change until recently. So why then in the year 2012 are we being held accountable for debts accrued pre 2005. HMRC you had your chance to recoup your money but your incompetence to follow up these ebts at the time they started may mean you get nothing back and deservedly so. 12 years on is a tad late to be making these claims of debt. I hope you get nothing back, and before you all jump down my throat about hospitals, police, public purse etc
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.......public purse etc think about how much the same goverments have wasted on grossly underestimating the cost of holyrood parliment, edinburgh trams and basically any project the goverment support. But thats all right i guess as long as its not announced during an election campaign. We are blind if we feel corruption or incompetance dont exist at high levels of goverment. But then again
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15 May 2012 14:59:11
if green is that smart he wouldnt be braggin about the wealth off the radar.....thats plain daft at this point ...talk about adding insult to injury.....dont expect any sensible businessperson to pay off other crooks debts but at the same time lets take our punishment and then move on .....take the transfer embargo and fine...take the demotion and european 3 year ban.....then bring out the dough....simple really...unless your a greedy barsteward and want instant remuniration...and if thaqts the case then we dont want those types as their the types that got us intae this toly....deecee
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15 May 2012 14:33:58
I still cant believe all this crap about a boycot is still being discussed, even in Rangesr Media!.
First off lets get a few things straight, Rangers is a big contributor to the income of other SPL clubs, granted but the same is true in reverse.
If Rangers left the SPL there would be large drop in income for scottish football top level, but their would be also be large drop in revenue for Rangers, winning the third div doesnt pay very much, so a tarnsfer ban is an opportunity to for the new owners to save some money and blame the sfa!
Rangers aren't going anywhere for the next few years, like the spl its joines at the hip to them, without spl income and europe income, Rangers will suffer too, but there has to be some punishment to fit the crime!
A transfer band and point deduction works well as it keeps Rangers in the SPL, keep a goo drevenue stream and is fair all round. I know the fans will suffer but the fans are not the club the club is owned by the shareholders and they committed the crime.
so now we know who to vent out Anger on
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15 May 2012 13:55:44
oh what a diffrence a week makes yous are fighting for green that he has the right not to disclose who the mistory men is who are backing him ,does your humfy leader ally agree becouse he likes no secrets when he wants to know names ,i have a funny feeling that mcoist has shot him self in the foot with this one ,i hope the sfa have some ba==s and pursue these names becouse if they do the backers will pull out and yous will get what yous deserve
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...eh?
Clean up, isle 3!
BB
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There's banter & thers bollo?
That is the latter
bil72
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15 May 2012 13:37:23
QUOTE "their group have serious wealth that has been put together from the medical worlds of Kuwait, Abu Dhabi and Singapore" That is obviously a typographical error, it should read "medical wards", aye, the psycho wans.
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15 May 2012 13:20:08
Rino ! Rino !
You know what, I don't care if it IS bollox! It's the first bit of good bollox I've read in fuggin' ages...! Rino! Rino...
BB
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Totally!might not be true but its good to have something positive to talk about.
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Bad news we ain't allowed to sign anyone, what happened to us giving youth a chance?
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Poster 2, cheer up man! Bet your a fuggin' RIOT to have around at Xmas eh?
BB
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15 May 2012 12:49:05
ok, for a start - Charles Green dosnt have to disclose anything to the SFA about the backers as this is a BUSINESS TRANSACTION. as unfair as that sounds (and having gone on whats happened in the past with a certain Mr White) fans may wish for all to be revealed etc etc etc but this is a business transaction, and after its transaction will they then (the Greens) disclose any information, if any.
ticketus will become part of the CVA - as it stands, they are owed the most money and therfore will be the main creditor that Rangers need to persuade to sign off any CVA - hence they are going after Craig White for the rest (as they will in total, get around 11.5million in total back from investing 27 or so million)
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The sfa need to know who they are so they can decide if they are fit and proper people to own a football club in scotland or have you forgotten Craig Whyte already? will Ally be calling for these people to be named since that seems to be what he's good at these days.
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The sfa have never needed to know before & don't even have a method of checking who is a 'proper' person to run a football club
So what are they going to do if they get the names??
They should concentrate in getting the 2020 euros to Scotland ( think that tells you exactly all you need to know abou these bampots
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@2) It’s expected an informal meeting between Green and SFA chief executive Stewart Regan will take place before the end of this week.
New SFA rules — which are expected to be passed on June 6 — will mean they MUST provide written guarantees on the buyers.
While the SFA will look into every member of the Green consortium it’s up to the men from Duff & Phelps to provide evidence they are selling the crisis club to individuals who don’t breach any SPL regulations.
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Signed bil72
before some eager beaver mentions it;-)
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15 May 2012 12:41:40
Rino?? are you there?? I know you read these pages c'mon back son and give barry ferguson a txt and bring him with you...get some steel in that midfield again..no6
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Would the steel be part of their zimmer frames?............green jhedi
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Hallo hallo its rino, how you know i readio theso pagesio my friendio. i will be backio to kick some as*io
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What happened to giving youth a chance?
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Rino is by it he attacked Joe Jordan simply because the game had passed him by and he could not accept he is past it
Desperate or what mate
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@4 past it to play at the highest level in Europe and being at a level to do well in the SPL are two very different things.
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15 May 2012 12:32:38
think it's time fellow bears we pull together
look to the future and give the new owners
time to put us back on the map for all the right reasons
i know the jury is out after craig whytes take over but it's time to come together and start rebuilding for the future
watp. greig
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15 May 2012 11:21:30
GREEN HAS A WAR CHEST FOR ALLY
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/320185/-Green-already-has-a-war-chest-f
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I surmise all those participating in the CVA will be over the moon at this revelation ..take pennies for the debt owed and then you can spend on big money players ..intersting!!..Johnny G
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Yeah yeah and Whyte had two war chests for Ally..... This is posturing because he knows there's a transfer ban next season, so why release nonsense like this?
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Yes, and this is exactly why there has to be a question mark over Rangers' participation next season in the SPL. Money for football but not for anything else.
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15 May 2012 09:09:30
Metro headline that Petrie may oppose Rangers newco taking SPL place.
It's his right, I guess, but there really is little difference between restructuring via a CVA and via a newco. Either way you get to write off debts.
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Pay the debt and there is no issue,your new owner going on about multi million pound warchest,heres a novel idea use it to pay what you owe, Petrie seems to have a bit of honour lets hope some more chairmen think the same way and you guys will have 3 years to rebuild as you come up through the divisions. Surely Dignity FC agree thats the right and proper thing to do?
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Hibs Chairman absolutely correct. Sporting integrity before money! Always!
With the UK Olympics only a month away, and football showcasing with team GB, sporting integrity is the highest principle of every sport. Any SPL Chairman putting money first is not fit and proper to be in football.
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I'm sure Stewart Milne at Aberdeen will concur. Aberdeen fans don't want Rangers in SPL and Milne has bags of integrity.
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All this SPORTING INTEGRITY guff will hold no arguement if a .cva is achieved so lets just wait and see.after all we have already been punished for going into aministration so if we exit there can be no more punishment from the spl
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@1 how come every time the press print a headline positive about Rangers you lot ridicule it as bull5hit but when they print something that can show Rangers in a negative view its the God given truth the journalists are beyond reproach. for gods sake i would believe some of the crap on here before i would believe anything in the press positive or negative towards Rangers. i have read the report and at no time whatsoever ever has anyone associated with green been quoted as saying Ally will get a War Chest the words war chest is a tabloid term.
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Yes and shame on the sports hacks scribbling their chicken scratch stating money before sporting integrity every time! Vultures. TV contracts and gate receipts have nothing to do with crime and punishment.
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Lets get one thing clear here as of yet no club will decide if rangers stay in the SPL as we have not applied to be a newco so if i was the Chairman of any SPL club i would keep my mouth shut until i new exactly what the outcome of the CVA proposal is.
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To 7) it's not about Rangers and you're timeline to liquidation it's about the SPL and their immediate timeline to pass Newco regulations irrespective of whether Rankers go Newco or not.
Typical you're whole universe is about Rangers.
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& suddenly there's a big rush to implement new regulations
Ever thought why now?
bil72
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15 May 2012 09:05:01
So green is not through the door yet but intends to put the price of the season tickets up well guess what we are the investers behind him if this happens another whyte fleecing the fans.
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Well im gonna guess that there gonna be millions ivested into the playing squad if hes gonna hike season ticket price up.
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I for one have no objections to paying an extra few quid if it helps Rangers and would think most season tickets holders feel the same. Its not about fleecing the fans its about helping Rangers survive.
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This cant be true, how can they set a price when we dont even know what division we are going to be playing in ?
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Its three years since the ticket prices have gone up, regardless of the quality of the product on the pitch general running costs of all companys and even households are increasing annually,as long as the rise in price is proportionate to inflation and the extra revenue raised benefits the club we cannot complain too much
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If we remain in SPL. - no problem, even with a transfer block
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15 May 2012 08:59:45
Not sure if i am being totally thick or if this has
if this has been discussed elsewhere
but I can't understand how the
creditors can discuss/agree a CVA
before the full extent of the HMRC
liability has been decided.
The CVA pot is obviously a fixed size
so the decision on the big tax case
will have a massive influence on the
p per £ offered.
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15 May 2012 08:49:20
Is it just me or has the green consortium not done exactly what blue knights were proposing.
All wealthy businessmen in one consortium trying to exit through cva.
I totally agree with investors not wanting to reveal their identities as Hmrc would never accept cva if they knew how wealthy they really were.
Let's face it if mr a owed you £100 and was offering to pay you 10p to the pound but you knew he had £1000 in bank would you accept that. I know I wouldn't.
Alexcee
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Dont worry bears Sally is all for transparency so surely he will name the investors for you? Or is that only when he is using it to threaten people to get his own way?
Dannybhoy
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This coming from a Celtic man? haha your manager threatens referees and accuses them of cheating on a weekly basis. Hence why he is constantly banned and the whole country hate him. Your manager is an utter disgrace and every other scottish football fan would agree! Away you go!
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Nw now Raab, you might upset the wee yins
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How come when lennon stand,s up for his team he,s a c$^t,when ally doe,s it he is a hero.both passonate guy,s celt,s or ranger,s fan,s would not have it any orther way.garlar07
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15 May 2012 08:47:43
Now Petrie, the Hibs chairman, has come out in favour of sporting integrity, and no amount of money should by pass this theory, obviously meaning TV cash as he thinks fans want games at 3pm on a Saturday and the SPL should listen to the fans for once, in his opinion. All SPL chairman should agree with him and let Hibs kick off every Saturday at 3 and take no share of any TV money. That will keep him happy, although if he did listen to his fans he would have resigned years ago, as his fans are not exactly enamoured by him.
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Now we are going to attack Hibs just because the chairman shows a bit of moral fibre. You bears are unreal what he is saying is right and just, if Dignity FC had any morals they would go to the 3rd div without being told to
Hopefully other chaimen grow a pair and demote you
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What a bitter little post.
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@2; wheres the bitterness in the post? Quite a fair summation of Petrie i thought...........green jhedi
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15 May 2012 03:30:36
If ticketus r going after whyte then rangers dont owe them. They should never have owed them anyway as we (rangers) never done the deal in the 1st place whyte did the def b4 take over
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Doh !!!!! Rangers and whyte used the money to pay Lyodds
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Rae! - Whyte used it to pay Lloyds.
Me! looks like the money never went into the RFC account.
Fah! Why would Whyte put up a Personal Guarantee?
Soh! There.
Lah Lah!
Te's oot.
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15 May 2012 00:25:19
UEFA have a one year ban for clubs honestly going into admin and exiting with CVA. Possibly changing to 3 years in next two months.
UEFA also have 3 year ban for liquidation and NewCo.
However, the use of illegal EBTs if proven by the BTC will incur even more harsher penalties. CVA and Liquidation aren't illegal but EBTs and non payment of social taxes is criminal financial doping of the Champions league!
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What a load of tosh, we are already out of Europe next season so a one year ban for a cva means nothing.
Also if not paying tax means harsh punishment then why are they not taking action against la liga clubs who owe £650m in unpaid tax.
Another Celtic tax expert who makes things up as they go along.
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This may sound "more harsher" than anything else- what is this garbled p!sh?!?
What's all this dump aboot everyone's favourite tim hack Alex Thomson with the "uefa will ban a club exiting admin. via a cva for three years" bit? uefa shooting from the hip, making rules up as they go, swamped by an avalanche of emails from our outraged green and white chums nae doubt. A wee trip to CAS should sort that one out. If the same legal entity (the rfc plc 1899) exits admin it's a year's ban from Europe.
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Correct a one year ban by UEFA for CVA is one thing but the EBTs is a more serious issue. The SPL, SFA and UEFA would have to impose further punishments if the High Court BTC goes against Rangers.
The small tax case was for EBTs also and is accepted by the club so there should be UEFA penalties for those years. Didn't Bain himself admit to having a second contract and order it shredded?
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Rangers won't ve in champions league for at least 5 years, you have to win the league first and Celtic will embarrass Scottish football next few seasons.
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That's right, not just CVA or liquidation that needs punishment. EBTs are a wholely separate and serious offence.
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Why are thy not taking action against la liga??
are you real? WTF stoooooopid....
HMRC...... her majesty revenue and customs............
read it......... her majesty........ do britain own la liga? is la liga under her majesty?
you make us bears sound stooopid!
BP
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EBTs will be a further 5 year ban.
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Number 2 well named but its pish you are talking, UEFA dont have to pander to RA Peeeeple it will be a min of 3 years ban and thats still waiting on the dual contract outcome,it will only get worse bears
DAnnybhoy
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Oh dear sounds like the timmys are giving up on the big liquidation happening so they are jumping on the ebts.any excuse to get rid of all that ice cream and jelly lol
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Oh danny bhoy the pipes the pipes are calling you away back to your own page ice cream n jelly no happening so the next big deai is the ebts away and support your team and enjoy your title win
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@9 and 10; The jelly n ice cream is finished.It's season end time or have you missed that?...........green jhedi
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@6 BP.
So no other country apart from UK collect tax?
Hmmmm....
I'll think you'll find that Spanish clubs DO INDEED owe rather large amounts of TAX to their Government.
So yes if Rangers are to be punished re failing to pay Tax by omission from Europe then so should the rest.
Oh wait that includes Barcalona....We cant have that...we need them for the prestige!!
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@11 "ice cream and jelly when rangers die" no when seasons over your teams song your spending too much time on other teams sites your losing touch with your own mob or is the thought of following a team led by a mr green turning your head just admit it the ice cream and jellys been thrown oot!
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