Rangers Banter Archive September 15 2012
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15 Sep 2012 22:41:20
As disappointed as iam with the result today , a plastic pitch, a force ten gale and a few over exuberent tackles from a few of the Annan players didnt help our cause
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3rd div seems to have a lot of clobber men rather than footballers.
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Not accepting that excuse, what happened at peterhead and Berwick.
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As Frank Sinatra once said >>> " Thats Life "and it sure is for you guys now .
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Said a supporter of the club which fielded McCulloch and Black.
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I believe it is a new pitch at annan,wheras murray park has had a plastic one for years,so your excuses dont wash,sevco were just rotten !!! dd
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This is your life for minimum 3 years. But you might not get promoted till this transfer ban is over. These guys don't look like they'll get new rangers out of fourth division.
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15 Sep 2012 22:33:41
Okay we haven't won away game in div 3 yet.... playing in these conditions small pitches , 2000 fans , home teams raising there games , rangers players have not even played 10 games together this season including Pre season sure we should be winning these games and it will come. Now here's a statement>>>> if we won all our home games this season we will still won the league , I for one is enjoying this challenge
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I can appreciate where your coming from, every team will raise their game against "the Rangers", your players will not enjoy going to away grounds....but is McCulloch the man to play up front?
You will win the league, by a country mile. Home games will be won at a stroll, but if teams like Berwick, Peterhead and Annan are taking points off you then other teams will not be scared to play you's. Time for your new players to play for the shirt, not the wages.
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Really ? for God's sake read back what you've just said OP ........... Shocking ....!!
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15 Sep 2012 22:24:24
Yet another week yet another blind deaf and dumb ref!! The tackle on wee temps was late and dangers the opposite players don't give a monkeys if they break our players legs but the ref is ment to be there to protect players from such things am sorry to sound like them but sometimes you think they are out to get us!!
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Thought he went down with no-one near him?
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Just a wee question OP ... what exactly did you expect the tackles to be like in the third division ,, or the refereeing standard for that matter ? Seriously .
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Might be wrong here but are the refs in the 3rd div not grade 1 refs? And even tho it's the 3rd div the refs in a junior league are better o and temp was caught late by Daly
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Templetim went over on his ankle trying to pick up a pound coin he seen on the pitch.
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15 Sep 2012 22:18:30
Listen lads, the days of our right to win are gone perhaps for ever. We still be a big club but we are a wee team. Wee teams are inconsistent and you had better get used to more performances like today,Peterhead and Brechin. If its glory you are after either wait years or get a bus down London Road.
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So what's your excuse today?
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Wee team?? are you for real? We are most certainly not a "wee" team in the 3rd division, playing against part time players who work as Joiners. etc during the week, Our players lap it up at Murray park, some getting paid more in a month than their opponents get in a year. What a stupid statement to make.
BR
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The squad is SPL quality, so what's going wrong?
Could it be the management and his other duff coaching cronies?
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15 Sep 2012 21:20:02
I hate to admit it but we[ Glasgow Rangers ] have lost the plot. Ally forget about EBT's, two contracts and conspiracies. Just put a team on the park we can respect and you cannot doubt our support. If you cannot move over so we can move on.
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Listen to your self look at the size of the park no pro team can fuction on a plactic park ,
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Celtic won in helsinki on a plastic pitch, 2-0
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It was easy enough for celtic in helsinki in a champions league qualifier
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@2, come on, Helsinki ? This was Annan.
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That BBC documentary on the EBTs showed Ally on the wall of shame. I saw it.
It would be miraculous if Walter and Ally weren't on the dirty EBTs. Everyone else was. From DM to Campbell Ogilvie to Alastair Johnston to Martin Bain to all the players.
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The pitch gives the team using it more often the advantage, but to say that teams cant play on it is a joke. I play 2 times per week on a plastic pitch and another 2 on grass, not an issue for any of our team. I think we would give Rangers a run for their money right now they are that poor.
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Walter tried to hush it up with his half hearted attempt of a buy out
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15 Sep 2012 21:06:09
To the guy that said mcoist doesn't have it have you thought it might be some of the players who need to have a long hard look at themselves, if this was at ibrox we would have won by a few, it is a bloody joke that they can't play away from home.
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Maybe they should train on a local junior ground.difficult to understand motivation or tactics spring to mind.
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He should stop playing long ball every away game then.
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15 Sep 2012 20:42:07
ally is a legend, but if he plays a mid fielder up front on his own, one more game this season, and doesnt get a result. he is without doubt history. it will be untenable. so i just hope he sees sense at last
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Don't mention history, celtic fans will only say it doe's not exist !!
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It doesnt...........and 'Im a Thistle fan hoping to get that point in first - before the jungle jims.
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15 Sep 2012 19:36:31
Disgraceful today ally plz go son before u wreck your legacy as an immortal
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Ally would have been perfect as some kind of media figurehead for the club.
But as a manager he lacks even the tactical nous of John Greig. These results away from home are abysmal and if Charlie Green wasn't reliant upon Ally's co-operation for the shares issue then Ally would have be collecting his P45.
No excuses, Ally.
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Visit Ally McCoist at confused.com
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Ally must stay. I,m skinning the bookies here.
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We dont need a media figure, just a good manager to get some underperforming players playing. That is the issue with Ally, he is not a manager!
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15 Sep 2012 19:23:17
Why do ppl bother about Celtic and vice versa ffs.. Concentrate on your own. Another piss poor performance today getting beyond a joke ally's excuse same old. Is it gonna get any better under him?
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15 Sep 2012 19:08:25
The game today was dreadfully boring, The players created some chances but nobody stepped up to finishing them, So the game ended 0-0 this was just a little update as the game was not on the TV.
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Uninspiring drudgery. I can watch better at my local juniors.
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15 Sep 2012 19:04:24
Offical... Fact.... Figures confirm it... Results prove it..... The tables confirm it.
The Rangers are now offically the fourth club of Glasgow.
Even the wee amateurs at Queens Park have a better season on season track record than their 3rd divison fellow team.
Was reading on this sight a few weeks ago that The Rangers would win every game by a barrow load of goals, sorry but have I missed something.
Think your due to have your first Glasgow derby soon, god you must be wetting your pants that you might draw at the mighty Queens Park, maybe worse lose one of your only two scheduled games at hampden.
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Lol did u see ur teams result today , whats the worst thats gonna happen we meet a 5th placed spl team lol
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@1 love it mate look at all the disagrees you got from the idiots I would love to know what they disagreed with as for OP your league stats are brilliant not played 5 w2 d2 L1 8points Rangers pl5 w2 d3 L0 9points. And before you start on aye but you drew against 3rd div teams well go tell me how many spl teams have been pumped out the cup by lower league teams lol
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15 Sep 2012 18:50:09
It's No Fun Being One
While many expected the SPL to be 'over by Christmas' Cetic have once again been unconvincing; losing to St Johnson (may I say by two fine goals).
I predict this conflict will drag on for several more months with mounting pressure on Lemmon; the rest of the SPL clubs are smelling blood, seat & fear coming from the so called champions elect.
At leaset when there was two Glasgow giants it was all about who came third regarding the lesser SPL clubs; but now war will be declaired, 11 other pretenders to second place will inevitbaly pressurise Celtic to preform as these games will now be seen as bonus point to the main prise.
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Probably better to concentrate n our own team who are playing way worse than them. It's time for ally to go
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@OP Totally obsessed with Celtic you are! I would worry more if my team were mid table of the bottom rung of Scottish football!.... The bhoys have got one eye on the champions league... something newco won't be near for a long time
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Carling 1873. You all said Celtic would win the league by Xmas.Incorrect as usual.The
SPL is providing excellant entertainment.
All teams in with a great shout.
If only carling did brains
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Celtic fans cant say we are obssest with their club when their on a rangers page im acctually peeing myself thinking about that omg get a grip
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You should make a lot on the betting then, with that sort of foresight. Personally, as someone whose bet every sevco match correctly, I think you're talking total b0llox.
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15 Sep 2012 18:35:11
these teams are full of post men, fishermen,and factory workers. ally, the clock is now ticking. i take no pleasure in saying that. but u are.playing a big honest guy, up front who was a defender not too long ago. time to get 2 or3 up front, and blow these post office workers away. tick tock
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Iv'e heard it said that old postmen end up smelling like fishermen and factory workers ,, write to the letter too ........!
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Ally must stay.
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Why does everyone say we are playing against factory workers, sparks etc. I am sure there are doctors, lawyers and accountants in there also. I played at that level and we had a pilot in our team.
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More ignorance again there are plenty players in the third who used to play in the spl and before I get the usual idiotic replys I mean out with rangers
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15 Sep 2012 17:37:28
Poor away result again, to every one wondering why ally is still manager? well he is the only manager in football history to keep a club together and to keep the fans beliveing, ED any news on Templetons injury? {Ed001's Note - give it a day or two for any swelling to go down, then they will be able to have a proper look.}
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I dont think it was Ally who kept the club alive. He just was in the paper a lot talking about it, trying to deflect the fact he has one nothing since he took over and the team has been on the slip.
Time to go Ally, you are a really bad manager.
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15 Sep 2012 18:16:32
@lochaber bear. If you bought a car and it had 54 speeding tickets lying in the glove compartment (unpaid) would you lay claim to those tickets,say they were yours and go and pay them?.... Of course you wouldn't because you didnt do anything to deserve them!......lol
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If you bought a car, then week later you find someone else owns it - who gets the car?
Its not you !
If you use a name "rangers" and you claim you bought the right to use it, - and its was sold under value and creditors lost out - who owns the name... again not you!
A court will decide in case 2 !
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Sevco Scotland bought The Rangers Football Club, and then changed its name to the Rangers Football Club. The history lives on.
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2) The history does live on.....with RFC. Sevco are a new club, hence they had to start in Div3 and had to change their name!
If your the same club why are the HMRC not chasing Sevco? They're chasing David Murray for the debt owed by using EBT's as Sevco did not accumulate the debt.
Dress it up however you like RFC are to be liquidated, Charles Green bought RFC's assets and recreated RFC with a club called "The Rangers".
RFC won 54 league titles, not The Rangers!
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Sevco bought the assets of rangers fc. Rangers fc still exists and is being held by liquidators while hmrc investigate the tax irregularities. At this moment there are 2 companies. Rangers fc and the rangers fc.
If they go bankrupt we will follow on.
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For all the person Celtic fans sevco is the new company name not the club name simple. And if we ain't the same why does the away strip still have five stars on it
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@5, you say that it is the same club, but a different company running it. The team you supported last season had an SPL share and were members of the SFA. If that team is the same one you are supporting this season why did they have to go to the SPL to have the share transfered to the new club. Why did they also have to apply for membership of the SFA.
In answer to your question about the 5 stars. There are few regulations regarding the use of stars. Any team in Scotland could put any number of stars on their top and say it represents anything they like. The SFA or any other body in Scotland are not going to ask for them to be removed because they are not regulated by any one. Why are they still there? Because the Sevco franchise are prepending to be the team formerly known as Rangers? Because the Sevco franchise have no money to scrap the current top and commission a new one? Who knows and who cares.
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15 Sep 2012 18:08:44
i posted on here the day david templeton signed for rangers that it was a matter of time before he faced a long term injury due to these hammer throwers in the 3rd division....didnt have to wait long did i?
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No one touched him so get your facts rigth
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Templeton crumpled to the ground holding his left ankle without anyone near him as he ran with the ball down the wing and the former Hearts player was soon carried offť
BBC Match Report
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@1, should've gone to specsavers.
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Good luck to the lad Templeton, i for one hope it isn't ligament damage. Hope when the swelling goes down it's just a strain.
DazzaBhoy
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I also posted earlier in the season that Rangers players will suffer serious injury when the playing surfaces decline to conditions akin to ploughed furrows in the third division come the onset of winter ...... and they will ........ going to be a long hard slog away from home just shortly if it isn't already .
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Did not see how Templeton got his injury, hope it is nothing serious, at the end of the day the man is just trying to earn a living.
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15 Sep 2012 17:46:56
Mr Green must surely get Ally signed up on trhat 25 year contract....he backs green to tyhe hiltg he says all the right things to get the fans on side..he even admits although wanted more players in the window he has enough class to do the job....Mid table in 3rd division with an SPL quality squad ( according to lots on here ) only has to pay win bonuses every second week and of course as long as drawn at home in the cup games will do very well....JohnnyG.....Mid table 3rd div or mid table SPL..not a lot of difference both teams full of under achievers
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Also unbeaten in all competitions, more than can be said for Celtic and their "CL quality" squad. Take points off Barca? Need to work on beating the St Johnstone reserves first...
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Obviously Ally isn't a great manager. It's clear for every bear to see.
After all, he blew the SPL last year to another guy who is decidedly second rate by Old Firm standards.
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@1 are you having a laugh? 'unbeaten in all competitions'! FFS the 3rd division and the ramsdens cup is all you have played ya nutter!
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Am I wrong? No. have Celtic been beaten? Yes. And add the league cup to that "ya nutter" ;)
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15 Sep 2012 17:40:44
plz ally go now b4 its to late ,
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15 Sep 2012 17:27:42
am agreat supporter of mccoist. but nah not good enough. one up front, a midfielder really, no not good enough, should have 2 or 3 up front, and winning by many goals, nothing short of winning this league by a barreload, will soothe badle bruised bears.get u r finger out ally, or reluctantly u r gone.and stop bleeding playing one mid fielder , come striker,come defender up front on his tod!!
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15 Sep 2012 17:23:08
aye what was the septic score against the bottom spl team again. clearly u r bhoyz are finding it tough raising there game without us, as competition,judging by there nonchalent , unenthusiastic displays. jog on for the next three years mate, get used to it,human nature,thats what u can look forward to from u r team. nothing to push them
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@OP: hope you're enjoying your team too. Maybe the SPL will be more competitive now Rangers aren't there - surely that's a good thing. D3 certainly seems to be that way too.
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Lol - the game mid week is reason for poor show today, same with gers... (2700 attendee ? wow mega bugs for gers then ) ?
one game is champs league, one is cumps league.
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15 Sep 2012 17:18:52
A wee message to POB and other fans
gloating about St Johnstone result
today. Last time I looked they were a
SPL team with a full time squad.
Unlike the 3 small teams sevco have
failed to beat who are all part timers
in the THIRD division.
Please concentrate on your OWN teams
myriad of problems LOL Neil T
Ps from this Celtic fan well done to
St Johnstone who deserved their win
today.
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Lets face it both gers an septic were quiche
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Erm.....a stjohnstone team that was severly depleted with a virus you forgot to mention
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Lol, talk about double standards. Stay on your own site then wise guy.
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Steve Lomas was trying to get the game called off his squad was so threadbare...still had more than enough quality to see off a very poor celtic side. You're just as bad as us, deal with it ;)
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15 Sep 2012 17:18:14
up until now i been a supporter of mccoist. i know he has a lot to learn, and had no friendlys, and having to bed the team in. and these teams are playing cup finals, and very defensive. but all that said, what is it with all these scots managers playing 1 up front. it rarely works. and asking for trouble. and against third division team or teams, we play mcculloch on his own,who isnt even an out and out striker. should be playin 2 up away, and 3 up at home, against these oppositions. we should be , even now, beating some of these teams by ten goals. its just not good enough, and if ally doesnt get his finger out with tactics etc soon, he could be out on his ear, hate to say that. but one up front does not work for scotland and certainly doesnt work for rangers in this division.
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15 Sep 2012 17:09:07
shambolic man,we r in a 4 way fight for the 3rd div,ally must get a grip,im shocked annan
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15 Sep 2012 17:07:37
right lads whos up for getting mccoist out i think hes totally useless!look at how much we are paying these clowns!the timmys are right by the way these clowns are just here for the money cause its not for the fight!these teams we are playing are PART TIME!!!ffs they will be going into ther work on monday talking about the game etc whilst our guys are thinking ther big shots picking up easy money!REALITY CHECK WERE A THIRD DIVISION TEAM!!no pre season my backside we have done treble the amount of training these other teams do so no excuses sack the manager!!
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15 Sep 2012 17:06:16
Whoever thinks that ally is the man to take us forward then. F OFF. He had he chance last season and he was garbo now he had had this season and guess what. Still Garbo. Second highest paid team in scotland cant beat part timers, embarrassing.
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15 Sep 2012 17:01:20
Another bad performance. So ally still the man? Just coz he gers through and through dosnt make him a manager. He Is Pathetic. John Greig De Ja Vu.
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Ally must stay.
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Rangers 1/7 to win today. Which just shows what an utterly hopeless result it was.
I won't though say we need to get rid of Ally as there ain't a hope of that with CG's flotation on the way.
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Ally says he only thinks the best for the club , well leave then ,as this is more embarassing than EBT`s , liquidation , and bringing Scottish football down
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15 Sep 2012 16:58:57
Poor result for Annan today, every other home team in the 3rd Division won. What is wrong with Annan. I think they should take a long hard look at themselves and be ashamed that they could only score a goaless draw with a new club! shocking. who are "The Rangers", never heard of them.
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HaHa 2-1 Tim. Focus on your own club.
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How can they score AND have goal less draw at the same time? Always have been, Always will be RANGERS
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HaHa SPL & CL Bear. Enjoy not winning D3 title
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Id rather lose to st johnstone away than draw with any team outwith spl never mind division 3!lol your manager is killing yous!
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Would rather loose to an SPL team than draw against a team that was in the Highland League not so long ago.
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Aye what was the septic score against the bottom spl team again. clearly u r bhoyz are finding it tough raising there game without us, as competition,judging by there nonchalent , unenthusiastic displays. jog on for the next three years mate, get used to it,human nature,thats what u can look forward to from u r team. nothing to push them
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@1: how'd you know the OP supports Celtic. In theory, they could be a fan of any other club.
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Look at yoursellf 3rd division get a grip ya balloon
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@5 Annan in the Highland League? Buy a map.
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Hey #6 you are totally right. I'm a Celt. We are Both gonna suffer pish without the realistic competition. We lost today and most fans think "ah well, we'll still win the league". How can the players be motivated if this is the attitude. You must feel the same. Not good for all.
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@6, getting up to it? They are only not getting up to it because cl is what they are focussing on, you know the big clubs of Europe not div3 part timers.
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Unbeaten in all comps petal, you bhoys (LOL) must really hate going north of glasgow lol :D
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15 Sep 2012 16:58:38
Here we go again. Another away draw for the Bears.
Another weekend where all the knobbies
come on a bay for McCoists blood until the next home game when we win with a cricket
score and everythins rosy again. Look
i would happily settle for a win at home and a draw away for the remainder. Just long as it gets
us into Div 2. If we fail to get promotion
then yes, McCoists time is up.
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Am agreat supporter of mccoist. but nah not good enough. one up front, a midfielder really, no not good enough, should have 2 or 3 up front, and winning by many goals, nothing short of winning this league by a barreload, will soothe badle bruised bears.get u r finger out ally, or reluctantly u r gone.and stop bleeding playing one mid fielder , come striker,come defender up front on his tod!!
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Ally must stay. There's a fortune to be made on all these draws.
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15 Sep 2012 16:54:29
surely now all the delusional fans who think mccoist is the best thing since sliced bread will pull their heads out of their arses.six points dropped against butchers and brickies time to hunt him mr green nowhere near good enough.
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Lets be honest boys -- Ally is week in and week out getting caught out for being a below average manager - his tactics are poor - and im afraid hes not the manager to take us forward --- ive nothing against Ally - as a player he was fantastic for us -- but as a manager he for me isnt cutting it-- if he loved rangers then he should hold his hands up and go
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15 Sep 2012 16:53:58
dont try to tell me that todays result was anything more than totally unacceptable ffs these are div 3 teams surviving on pennies forget about celtic , we are fuc.. dreadful what is happening ally , or dont you know
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15 Sep 2012 16:53:32
McCoist has got to go.
He's squandered money on players incapable of beating part time clubs.
He was out his depth last season and he's the same now.
He won't get another job as a manager at any other football club.
His comments about tippex and "who are these people" along with everything else are leaving us open for ridiculing.
You belong on the terracing not in the dugout.
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15 Sep 2012 16:46:22
so looks like six points dropped in three away games not good enough.green seriously has to be thinking about getting rid of mccoist.
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15 Sep 2012 15:17:29
Templeton bad injury, that's all we need
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Ally mccoist is a joke of a manager
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To be fair if u show no ambition ur going to get hurt!no protection in the diddy leagues
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15 Sep 2012 15:01:42
me thinks that even with the squad we know have we could still challenge for the spl title cause all the teams are rank rotten. roll up for a benfica romp!
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I bet you wish your mob were playing Benfica.
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What you about? It's half time and we are drawing with Annan.
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Results are allover the place today,well done saint johnston,as where the better team today,so much for the spl be a romp eh,we have dropped 7points in 3games,bit quick of the mark slagging off spl teams,whilt yous are struggling v the mighty annan!stevo
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Anybody know this song annan na na annan na na hey hey goodbye gaz
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You said it Rank Rotten!! Ally does not have the know all to break down a 3rd Div defence, still along way of SPL.
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Challenge for what title? Peterhead, Berwick now Annan. Bearing in mind annan were a Highland league team a few years ago!
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If Rangers were still in the SPL, you'd be calling for Lennon's head after recent results.
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I noticed your post was sent at 15.01 it's now 17.00 still feel the same ? Try challenge for div 3 first cos yous are rank rotten.....Stevie
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@6: were Annan in the Highland league?
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You must still be hurting from Helsinki and helsingborgs. Not to mention Peterhead, Berwick and Annan. I can't wait for the benfica match and I betted on annan to draw 0-0. Having a drink on you now.
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@7. How could you possibly know that ? If you are so good at fortune telling you should have had money on today's result,like some of us. Just wish I'd doubled it with sj. Getting odds on ally going by Christmas tomorrow.
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To all the dhims saying we're rank rotten can't disagree with you on that but we will still win the third. But here's the point you lot are rank rotten aswell but you will still win the spl. Why will we both still win because we have the biggest squads in our leagues
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Has Annan moved ?
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15 Sep 2012 14:29:54
Nice result for St Johnstone today,well done
Lomas,lets hope we can have a result today
aswell and can i just wish a speedy recovery to the Elgin City players injured in a road accident.
AJM.
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Why you interested in a sphell club? When we mention your results we get it in the neck about being obsessed
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@1, who is we? Your not a regular to how is anyone supposed to know?
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No1: I have a great interest in football in general which includes SPL clubs, for the bottom of the league club to beat the top and current champions i am sure you must agree is a good result.regardless of what league they play in,i can only assume that you also have a deep interest in all football when you are posting on this site so good luck to you and your team whoever they may be.
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Nice result Annan, well done whatever there managers name is
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0-0. You should never tempt fate like that. Bet on it though.
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The rangers in 3. Not even the biggest ground in the division and now not even the top Glasgow team in the division. What is a loss to st. j to that ? He he he.
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15 Sep 2012 14:11:50
What happened to the rule if a player pulls out of international duty and plays following Saturday? Is Scott Brown not playing today?
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Tday was browns first spl game of season, concentrate on yer own 3 rd Div team & leave international & spl issues to the big teams
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Really rangers fan making this point, did this not happen regularly with rangers players over the last few seasons
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Just the same way as your replying to a thread on a rangers site timmy! Do you know the meaning of hypocrisy?
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@3: you do realise it's not a site just for Rangers fans? No hypocrisy at all, given that the OP was about Celtic - why shouldn't Celtic fans be allowed to comment. Maybe in your wee mind they shouldn't be but that's not how this site works.
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And who would the big teams be No1,Motherwell and Hibs? heh heh!
Well done Steve Lomas and the Sainties!
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@4, notice you chose not to answer the OP, and it is a Rangers banter forum not Celtic, so you must have an interest in Rangers to come on here in the first place, either that or you have a sense for when the word Celtic is used?
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P.o.b only crawls out the woodwork when goes against the hoops,saints where the better team,yous are playing the mighty annan,,lets see how yous go,,stevo
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Annan score anyone??
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@6: not necessarily an interest in Rangers but an interest in being entertained by some of the delusion spouted on here.
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@5 Well done wee Annan hee hee hee
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Celtic score anyone?
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@5 what you make off the result against annan pob.
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@5 well the big teams would be that of the spl, yes all of them. Cause you are a div3 club that will not win the league so I wonder if you will still be around to watch or just focuss on Celtic. Div3=small/part timers div2=better to the spl the biggest clubs for you are at the very bottom.
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I'd be more concerned about your rank rotten mob bhoys. We're still unbeaten. Having said that playing one up front is shocking tactics. Not calling for the managers head like some people on here as we'll walk the league. None of these teams will in at Ibrox. Keep your paranoia and negativity for your own team eh?
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POB why should Celtic be more concerned, were playing Barcelona, Benfica and Spartak Moscow, not Annan Athletic, Queens Park and Montrose. You may be unbeaten, but your playing part-timers. I agree you will win every game at ibrox, but with your expensive squad you should be destroying Berwick, Peterhead, Brechin and Annan Athletic.
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15 Sep 2012 13:55:31
is kyle hutton injured
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No he played in reserves game midweek.
AJM.
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No he's rubbish.
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15 Sep 2012 13:06:14
when the tax office make their decision public ,and if guilty then we will know exactly what the position is at ibrox if newco oldco or a mixture .as if some oldco assets were bought there will be an investigation to why they were sold so cheap as they would be used to help pay debt , ok cg thinks hes safe in this one but lets just wait and see , cg says a lot but does alot of different things , or on the other hand maybe if olco assets went to newco maybe cg will willingly pay bill lol woudnt that be a turn up for the books
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15 Sep 2012 12:43:21
Anybody know of a link for today's match. Can't see it anywhere?
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Haha no chance there son!
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P2p4u have it listed as being on.
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Firstrowspots has it listed...
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Footballstreaming.info are showing match
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There's a link on firstrow for the game.
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15 Sep 2012 09:50:41
post to ed why in previous atempts to question rangers fans as to why fans are wearing there tops to orange parades , this also goes to celtic fans wearing theirs to hibs parades , how will we ever disentangle the belief that either club is or wants to be associated with any form of bigotry of this nature , i for one would be quite happy to see an end to these parades as they are begining to be a bit old fashioned , here and in the home is where bigotry is made not at football matches it has only been a place for release in the past , the scottish government have acted accordingly at football grounds now they need to address the next step on the ladder {Ed001's Note - what the hell is that to do with anything? I am all for stamping out religion in football (in fact in general preferably) and bigotry, sectarianism, etc, but what the hell has someone wearing a footie shirt to these kind of things got to do with anything? They are not representing the club, they are just wearing a shirt they bought when they go there. Perhaps you should complain to adidas or Nike or M&S, because I am sure clothing made by them will be worn to those things too. This is one of the most ludicrous posts ever!}
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I think you misunderstand ed. These people are making a strong statement which links the clubs inextricably to these 'religious' organisations. The drive to remove sectarianism will only succeed if these links are cut. {Ed001's Note - no they are not, you are making the link, they are simply wearing a top. It is irrelevant, just like when the Orange Order do the same march in Liverpool and the crowd has people wearing Everton and Liverpool shirts in it. It is imbeciles creating a connection with the clubs by taking it into the stands with their chants and songs.}
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Ed, your outburst is ludicrous, the op raises a valid point, people do where their tops and the walks are completely out of date and only persued by the cro-magnons of society. Why celebrate or " remember " a date that is synonymous with death and destruction. Oh as we'll as being centuries ago and may insult your neighbour whatever creed.
Figaro {Ed001's Note - no, you are missing the point completely. Did I say the walks were a good thing? Did I say anywhere I agreed with them? Try learning how to understand what is written and then come back and discuss it. Instead of ranting about something that is nothing to do with football. Your rant was ludicrous as it has nothing to do with what I said.}
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Your right ed, my mistake, people do just wear these tops because that's what they feel like wearing that day.
Ps I didn't state they where good or bad either just out of date and enjoyed by people with a higher than average cranial bone density.
Figaro {Ed001's Note - I would agree with you on that, they are out of date.}
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As a Cro-Magnon i am deepy offended by this slur on my species. We never wore Old Firm top, even to our Annual 12th July Elephant Hunt Parade.
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15 Sep 2012 09:35:09
just been reading allys comments in the paper this morning really got to hand it to him , he sure knows how to make a fan#y of himself , it seems every time he speaks some of us shudder , sure we will support him but wish he could shut up and think before he speaks , he now highlights that we are all now supporting our club out of defiance , he also states they will never strip titles , please ally what can you do to prevent this i ask you . between you and lennon i think this must be the worst double act the old firm have ever had , but dont worry medical research is progressing every day im sure brain transplants will be available soon
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Cant believe so many disagree
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15 Sep 2012 09:07:56
Daz let me spell this out to you
NEWCO = New company that owns the most successful club in the world the club that currently has 54 titles and counting.
if you bought a car from me and it had a dozen outstanding speeding tickets registered against it and you got a court summons regarding said tickets you would instruct your lawyer (if you get legal aid) to inform the court that it had nothing to do with you. it would still be the same car just a new owner
The clue is in the Name Newco = New Company not New Club
HAS IT SUNK IN YET MATE Dhoooo
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Why did Green say it wasn't then? Why are people alluding to the fact that the current club has no SPL history? But the trophies can be stripped from the 54, if the SPL deem the oldco/club guilty of breaking the rules so the car analogy doesn't really work there.
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Speeding tickets get registered to people not cars lochaber , i know what you are getting at but it a lot of p..h
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Loch Bear....as your fellow supporters keep telling you.....your making an arse of yourself son.
What do Cars have to do with RFC or NewCo? Charles Green said prior to the CVA being refused, that the history would be lost if the club was liquidated. Last week he stated that NewCo won't be represented at SPL investigation as they have NEVER been members of the SPL.........Last night McCoist stated they were a NewCo.
The penny will drop some day L-Bear untill then think before you type. Your embarrasing your own supporters, me (by continually arguing stupid points) and more importantly your embarrassing yourself son.
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Your former club became a company in 1899 until it was consigned to liquidation earlier this year.
A club and a company aren't separate entities, don't believe me? Consult the FIFA rule book!
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The 'club' you speak of does not actually exist. Were you ever a member of this 'club' ? No, you were a customer of the business. The 'club' thing is a marketing tool used by football businesses. When the rangers win their first trophy it will be credited to the rangers not rangers. The the in the name is all important. It proves the business is new and not just the old business carrying on. It is hard to understand because it doesn't seem right that businesses can get away with this but they do, all the time. Charlie is sailing close to wind with his statements. If I was an aggrieved creditor I would consider going to court and using his statements to prove that this was one big con job and the newco should pay my debt.
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Oh my goodness are you all really still having the history debate, THERE IS NO CLEAR ANSWER ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. Why do Celtic fans care so much and likewise why should Rangers fans care what they think of us?
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15 Sep 2012 08:45:58
Anyone know of any link for today's game?
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15 Sep 2012 08:37:40
Just over 6,000 at Dundee utd game last nite, the SPL is in a shocking state without the biggest club in the country.
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Are you obsessed with the SPL and its attendances? Weren't they crap last year too when Rangers were still there?
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Who are you refering to , because your opinion dont make it right
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If rangers were still in the spl would the attendance at dundee utd game last nite have been higher?
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Why are you obsessed with spl attendances ? The fact is that is the number of people who wanted to go to the game at that time. It wouldn't have mattered if real Madrid and Barcelona were in the league never mind you lot.
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15 Sep 2012 07:03:41
Gers v annan starting 11 ?
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Hegarty perry cribari wallace
Mackay black mcleod templeton
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15 Sep 2012 06:20:52
Listen Bears....
I think it's high time we dropped the whole Juninho EBT nonesense. As much as I want to believe there is a "cover-up".....I don't think that is the case. Celtic have either done nothing wrong or they have done something dodgy and they weren't stupid enough to leave a paper-trail and done it in a manner in which they wouldn't get captured of any wrongdoing.
Either way, they aren't facing a tax liability of millions of pounds and, unfortunately, we are.
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@TTG they did have a tax liability which they paid, meaning they used the EBT in the same manner Rangers did, however Rangers disputed the tax charge, Celtic paid it early before it became an issue. If the EBT was used in the same way then it is very much the same issue for the SPL.
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I wonder if that money was accounted for in the players contract and if so was it documented in the SPL / SFA records?
Why was it paid after the player left?
Was Roy Keanes & Robbie Keane' wages not subsidised by Desmond. If they were, did Celtic declare this to the SPL / SFA?
Rangers tried to avoid tax liabilities like many other large companies but it is looking likely that it was poorly managed. However, HMRC will need to advise their ruling.
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As your porn star friend told you ........ he built the bus which was perfectly safe ...... the manner in which it was driven led to the catastophic combustion of said vehicle .
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2) the EBT's were NOT illegal when, both, RFC and Celtic (albeit only one) used them. The SPL are investigating Dual Contracts and RFC not declaring the monies paid to Mcleish, Ferguson et al
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15 Sep 2012 02:12:27
Ed. Can u explain why dual contracts is such an issue? Breach of rules if proven yes, technicality surely. Ebts - financial advantage not under investigation by SPL So when did a buerocratic failure evr score a goal? I'm not talking letter of law here nor tax evasion or avoidance. I'm askin how a dual contract cud win a football match? LB {Ed001's Note - it doesn't matter, the point is it would be a breach of the rules, not a technicality, but a very real breach. Dual contracts could hide anything from the ruling body, whether they did or not is irrelevant, they have to be punished harshly. A dual contract could conceal any kind of payment, payments that mean the club could sign players that otherwise would have gone elsewhere. Not the use of the word could, because it is not a definite, just a possibility that it helped sign players.}
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14 Sep 2012 23:50:35
wonder how accurate this will be. but i predict rangers will win following 2013 ramsdens cup and third division.
2014 2nd division and ramsdens cup and league cup
2015 1st division, ramsdens 3 in a row. and scottish cup
2016 spl title
2017 the treble
2018 uefa cup
2019 the double
2020 champions league title
2021 league title,super cup and world team title
2022 the champions league
2023 the treble
gonna be a fine ten years, for o am the soothsayer
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Someone had a great Friday night.
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Dont think ma wee heid could handle aw that celebratin :)
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Hee Hee Hee their comin to take you away.
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I'm on the way to Willie Hills wi ma tenner rite now! Cheers for the tip mate! L!
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Looking at this, its not as daft as it sounds. for the sake of a tenner. wind back not even ten years, but 6 years if someone in a pub had told u at that rangers would get to a euro final. and then be in the scots third division,in this time, you would have got them a straight jacket there and then
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@5: the idea of winning the CL twice in the next ten years is totally daft.
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If you believe ANY team in Scotland will win the Champions League ever again your needing a lie down, or a detox mate.
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