Rangers Banter Archive September 15 2016

15 Sep 2016 23:02:44
I did say Barton wasn't Rangers class and I was slated. Get him out the team and back to England. Rossiter Crooks and Halliday can fill that position.

16 Sep 2016 04:22:43
Rossiter, yes. He is our best young player. Crooks has still to prove himself and Halliday has been poor in the SPL. Debatable if he is good enough in that role.

16 Sep 2016 13:31:14
I love halliday he plays with heart and is a rangers fan but I wouldn't want to put him in my first team as we have better quality players but also agree I wouldn't have barton in there either unless playing a 4-4-2.

16 Sep 2016 13:31:14
I love halliday he plays with heart and is a rangers fan but I wouldn't want to put him in my first team as we have better quality players but also agree I wouldn't have barton in there either unless playing a 4-4-2.

15 sep 2016 22:40:59
shame for barton, just pity he can't behave himself, kranjcar totsl waste of a wage and space, holt, windass, an even moh should be infront o kranjcar, jesus he is s€*+e, why he at our club? they young guys have to be given a chance, kranjcar, no energy and no passion, i think it good barton on holiday, should take kranjcar with him, the other ones mw brought in will do us a turn, i hope.

15 Sep 2016 23:01:49
Kranjcar is not a player that will chase the ball down for 30 yards, he isn't a player that will out run anyone. He is a player though that if you created a team around him you'd have a great side. He can unlock defenses if you give him time. He is almost like pirlo. He isn't going to run around the pitch. But give him the ball and he'll find anyone on the pitch. Warbs is playing kranjcar in the wrong formation. A 4-3-3 doesn't suit him, you need legs for that formation something Kranjcar lost 5 years ago.

16 Sep 2016 02:05:56
Onlyshowaround. Kranjars 1st touch leads to a 50/ 50 tackle it's that bad! He is so off the pace it's embarrassing. With him now being at least a yard slower than he was in his prime and the spl being so fast, he needs to rely on a great 1st touch where the ball is sticking to him but that's not been the case. I agree he is not a chase back type midfielder, however if he is not doing the basics well when he is so slow then how can you play him?

16 Sep 2016 04:57:46
Like Pirlo? that's raking it abit far. Pirlo very rarley gets caught in possession unlike krankjar who wants abt 30 touches and abt 20 mins when he's got the ball.

16 Sep 2016 08:05:56
Pirlo also plays in a holding midfield role and very rarely is seen any closer than 10 yards to a player. the guy needs that many touches as no one has made a run yet. no one we have can read the game like him.

16 Sep 2016 09:08:42
God I've heard it all now.

16 Sep 2016 11:24:11
Pirlo? Spluttered my coffee reading that post. OSIT Thanks for the laughs lately. You win the Banter of the Month Award hands down!

16 Sep 2016 13:41:01
got to change it to 4-4-2 with two cdm imo 4-3-3 is gonny get us slated all season off of the better sides in this league and we will struggle with the smaller teams aswell.

warburton is a smart man but I hope he doesn't let stubbornness cloud his judgment .

I hope he can see to play 4-4-2 against the better teams up here is the way forward.

15 Sep 2016 21:48:51
Probably get shot down for this one but anyone actually feel a tad bad for Barton? Tell you my thinking behind it guys he has came into a new team and he is having to play a system which he gets little involvement in we are playing a completely different game than he is used to. Again I feel probably some will disagree but the last 10 minutes against xeltic when he had more of a free run I felt he seemed to play a bit better and he was one of the only ones who at least tried for full 90 minutes. I feel we should judge the guy at the end of the season.

15 Sep 2016 22:43:46
Hope it gets sorted out soon, joey is a good player and will come good for us.

15 Sep 2016 23:03:52
I instantly clocked the "tried for 90 minutes" and I had to disagree.

15 Sep 2016 23:57:11
Only reason I mentioned that is as painful as it was. I re-watched the game 😭 and he did what was asked tactics wise he is not given the freedom that he was given at previous clubs, he needs someone like rossiter playing along side him and given a few game run with both of them, I mean don't forget guys this is a team of loads of new players which have only had a few competitive games under their belts. Ask said give it to January till we lose the plot with them ⚽.

16 Sep 2016 05:21:03
Sorry but Barton isn't the type of player you give freedom to, its not gascoigne we're talking abt. he's got limited ability and that's being kind. he's not a sitting midfielder and he's certainlly not an att midfielder so i don't really no were that leaves him tbh.

15 Sep 2016 19:20:02
I don't think our main problem has been Barton . Let's point the finger at Kiernan, Wallace and Kranjar to name a few before Barton. They are terrible!

15 Sep 2016 20:16:59
Meant to say at least the others don't bang on about it on social media.

15 Sep 2016 20:41:25
or we support the team and stop blaming players. it's no secret kranjcar et all have struggled and if all fans behave like some on here it will be even harder for the players.

15 Sep 2016 21:03:22
The others don't get £3.5 million followers sir!

15 Sep 2016 21:22:55
Cee I think we love and support our team but this site is about banter and opinions so I have to agree that a few of our players are terrible at the minute and it's OK to name names as a few have had a horror show and not fit to wear jersey. I understand it is what it is but I would love nothing more than to win every game from now till New Year's Eve as well as beat them. Then I'll call Warbs majic again but there needs to be drastic improvement including investment in January. This Club is bigger than the staff and Warbs should drop a few Barton, Kranjar n Kieran to make way for Rossiter n forester and Wilson X I feel we will beat Ross county no problem.

16 Sep 2016 08:14:26
if he was dropping players for playing badly only foderingham would still be in the team. they have all been rank. win as a team lose as a team.

15 Sep 2016 18:14:16
Seen Bartons been banished, maybe it's best for both parties if he just tore up his contract, he's not got going on the park and now this. Holding wee Rossiter back who is the future of our midfield imo.

15 Sep 2016 18:27:48
Whilst he has reminded me of Ian black so far, we really need to give him more time before we write him off.

15 Sep 2016 18:30:04
Just seen the story.

Hardly a good omen, the team needs to stick together and fight opponents not ourselves!

15 Sep 2016 18:30:07
This isn't his first fall out with Halliday and others took Andys side. Apparently it was handbags but they had to be separated. Perfect opportunity to rip up his contract as I believe Rossiter and Crooks will be better in that role.

15 Sep 2016 18:30:38
Always a chance it was going to happen. He's had problems at nearly all his previous clubs.

15 sep 2016 18:31:10
personally i would be happy if barton did not play again for rangers. realistically he hasn't been good enough for us. he seems to be more interested in twitter!

15 Sep 2016 18:43:09
Nobody more gutted than me to see him fail at Ibrox so far, a thought he would have been excellent up here. But if one things been apparent this year it's that we have too many of the same type of player in the middle of the park, which is ironic because last year we were crying out for just one CDM.
The teams looked too slow when he plays, ad rather tear up his contract and spend the money on a CB.

15 Sep 2016 20:01:12
Teams way faster without him. A massive risk for MW wanting him to be his blue chip signing. It sounds great just saying rip up his contract. It doesn't work that way. There's disciplinary procedures you have to go thru before trying to end a contract and fisty cuffs would be a verbal or written warning. Instant dismissal ain't an option These guys have that many clauses they should be from the north pole.

15 Sep 2016 20:08:55
Barton will not rip up his contract, it will be paid in full either now or later. unless The Rangers can find a way of sacking him

whats he on? 15k pw for 2 years (apporx 1,320,000 for the 2 years)

can yous afford to pay him off.

15 Sep 2016 20:41:56
The thing that gets me about this whole Barton situation is warburton said that they do massive checks on any player before they are signed by the club. Barton hardly came without a good bit of baggage, so I feel that the aforementioned system was overlooked in his case. i

I'm still not going to judge the guy as he obviously can play and there has been a bust up on the back of the Celtic result. There has been too much tinkering to the midfield in in the first part of the season. I'd rather there be busy ups showing a frustration and a willingness to work through them, gelling and playing well rather than just simply not caring.

Don't write Barton off yet. He is a good player but will be hopefully learn that Scottish football isn't the walk over its perceived to be down south. You do not get as much time on the ball.

15 Sep 2016 23:30:11
I was not at all happy when we signed Barton - but we signed him and I now back him because he's a Rangers player.

Admittedly, he's not performed to expectations - but no-one has. Personally, I'd give him some more time unless his latest indiscretion merits a punting.

The guy has a long list of clubs behind him - every one of them better than his current. Did they all carry him? No. He's a player but he's disguising it well at the moment.

15 Sep 2016 16:57:20
I just watched the gaffers press conference, I really enjoyed it, I thought he spoke really well, also what windass said is spot on, he said he would be worried if we were playing to our best and not winning, but we're not at our best yet, imo our squad is tailor made for a 4-2-3-1,but it's up to the manager, I firmly believe we will come good, I've said on here for a while that it's going to take time, the negative comments at the minute are crazy, get behind the team guys, it's very early days, I promise we will come good. keep the faith. r. t. i. d.

15 Sep 2016 17:04:44
Even that formation away from home against the so called bigger teams would be a start Delboy good post mate. I'm one of the ones criticising right now but it's more to do with some team selections recently than the grand scheme of things. We do have the squad and management to turn this around, hopefully a good result against county at the weekend can be a catalyst, we need to see a team going full pelt for 90 mins to repay the fans for last week.

15 Sep 2016 18:16:33
Delboy a have been saying for wks that with the attacking players in midfield and out wide that we have that 4231 is only way to go. Also with the rubbish defence we need to players sitting and protecting defence.

Haliday rossitier sitting

Moh windass forrester deep lying attachers

Waggy or garner or miller lone striker who can easily link up with the 3 behind!

How hard is it to see this, also more compact at back harder to break down, and pace that can drive from deeper at other teams get the defenders turning harder too mark these guys as the 3 sit between other teams mid and def so makes it harder for them, that is what selik done too us and look what happened!

15 Sep 2016 18:19:48
Good post Delboy9, we just have to be patient, as I've said before get rid of Ashley and get one or two investments and we will be fine, we have came along way
without serious investment and when the money from strips sponsorship comes in we can start building .
Don't expect 4/ 5 million pound players but would love to
see what MW does do when he gets cash to use .
Think personally he has done fantastic with the resources he has had .
And for all the ones who say we haven't spent, do your homework .

15 Sep 2016 19:05:46
Yes delboy, very well written post mate as I said some of the same stuff as yourself several days ago, some continually on here at the first sign of trouble want the manager out, no chance let's wait and give warbs and weir the time imo they deserve especially the scale of the job they have, these so called rangers fans know who they are.

15 Sep 2016 19:44:38
I've got to disagree warbs15,why say so called rangers fans? Do u think because we are criticising we are less of a fan than u? That's a bit patronising if they play well they take the praise so surely for how bad they've been they deserve some criticism we can't always pretend everything's all rosy when it clearly isnt.

15 Sep 2016 20:44:12
Bigblue ayr, I didn't mean to cause offence mate so point taken on that score but you've got to admit that some on here go WAY over the top at the first sign of adverse results, all I'm saying is give our management team and the new players time to gel and then we can judge them at the end of the season, some fans are impatient and pre judge way too early, let's get behind our club and back them to the hilt and see where it takes us.

15 Sep 2016 22:01:34
Totally agree W15 -.

15 Sep 2016 10:00:00
Regan voted for the wrong guy to stop the champions league from changing, just another reason that the people at the top do not have the best interests for our game in Scotland . We need to come together with all fans and get rid of the idiots that run things because they don't have a clue . We have a stale game that has not moved forward since the 90 s . We need a radical change 16 team top league with colts to play in the lower leagues 2 up 2 down and a playoff . If we don't change soon our league and country will never get any better what do people think?

15 Sep 2016 10:51:19
The whole system across football is a joke mate, our league has to change the european game has to change there is no money for smaller teams example being our neighbours across the road 30 million they'll make will they spend it no way because on a sensible way what happens if we make it or they don't make it and they have massive overheads next season, its crazy the whole system is mental, we need to follow proven leagues and bring our younger players through.

15 Sep 2016 12:58:55
then you relise that an NI or Welsh team could possibly win a scottish trophy (irn-bru cup) . lol

joke is the nicest term anyone could give.

15 Sep 2016 13:08:01
The new president campaigned on a platform of taking on the elite clubs and showing them who is in charge.

Not really sure I understand how Regan has backed wrong guy?

15 Sep 2016 13:26:08
I think both guys wanted to stop changes to champions league. Scottish footballs crap because we are a small country and there us no real money in the game. We need to get real and compare ourselves with other leagues of countries similar sized norway, bulgaria, finland, croatia. They are all shite too. I agree 16 team top league but nothing is going to radically change the game. The money will mever come in and our best aim will be to qualify for chanpions league or do decent in europa league. Competing at the top is gone.

15 Sep 2016 14:30:40
Any changes to the league set up need a majority backing of the clubs doesn't it?

15 Sep 2016 15:26:51
Ditching Sky for Sentanta was the final nail in Scottish footballs coffin. Everything since has been one long running joke, but not a particularly funny one.
Sky would have eventually drip fed more into our game so it could have been a retirement home for the EPL's rejects. Now it's a retirement home for Scottish players who have had a move to the English Championship and have failed and come back up the road with their tails between their legs, watched by a man and his dug.

15 Sep 2016 16:08:51
100% agree recbob.