Rangers Banter Archive February 16 2013

16 Feb 2013 22:29:10
Should alarm bells be ringing with the latest Alexander news today? Offering him a new deal on a 50% wage cut, from around £10k per week to £5k, would seem pretty sensible as it is a hell of a lot of money for a third division player. The fact he was only offered a one year, Lee McCulloch got a two, deal you can understand his frustrations. What the worry is that the new deal was to kick in straight away, not at the season end when his old contract ended. FFS are things that bad with cash flow? Time some questions were asked.

Well big lee will likely stay with us until we reach the soon to be scottish premiership. Alexander isn't a long term prospect. He will likely become 2ndchoice behind cammy bell, why pay a 2nd choice keeper 10k when we can offer him half that, and then he can decide if he wants to accept, or he can move on. Seems sensible to me?

1# I agree but the worry is trying to cut his money immediately. Smacks of blackmail a wee bit, extension for a year cuts immediate or deal off the table.

Thats exactly what it is. But that's how the business world works.

What's the worry he is on 10k in the third division! What chairman would not want that player on a lower wage ASAP were is the blackmail? This is exactly the way we should be with players, no one is bigger than rangers, if he wants to leave then let him, we're else will he play in front of 40k plus every second week and have training facilities like Murray park?

John

It's worrying in the extreme.
The player has a current contract and the club has to honour that through to its end.
Halfing players salaries mid season, not paying invoices, false promises from CEO and ridiculous statements.
I really want to know who owns MP, Ibrox and the lease on the Albion Car Park? Early in the purchase process it was in the press that the assets were "hived" off into other companies.
Why is everyone cool with the shares prospectus stating the deeds and names on the deeds have not been seen?

This shows anyone at or contemplating joining Rangers that Green could roll you over at any point while you're there.
A contract means nothing to the guy.

Yeah a great reward for being loyal to the club at it's time of need, I thought they were all to be legends.

17 Feb 2013 11:02:34
Op regarding cash flow. There are rumours that repairs at ibrox need to be done immediately.
also talk of renting Hampden next season, could this be why extra cash is needed?

Poster 8) What rumours, must be from dafties. We can not rent Hampden in 2014. It is hosting The Commonwealth games. Does anyone read the news? Hampden surface is being raised 1.9metres to facilitate the construction of an athlectics track and field facility. No football pitch at Hampden in 2014. My god, some of these rumours.

Hampden cannot be leased. It has to close most of 2013/ early 2014 for major projects for commonwealth games preparation.

The Hampden rumours are coming from Rangers fans, believe it or not, concerned Rangers fans - you know, ones who don't believe everything Green says.

SO Green is happy to tell us that 'traitors' like Davies and McGregor will never be welcomed back at Ibrox but then treats Alexander - who showed loyalty to the club - with contempt.

Explain that one away if you will Charles.

As for the renting Hampden rumour that must be the biggest load of mince I've heard so far this year.

@9 It would appear you might be a daftie. Rangers won't need to lease hampden for a year. The rumour is the work on the stadium will overlap the start of the season by around 6-8 weeks. This means at worst 3-4 games played there, from august this year. No conflict with the Hampden refurb

Yes it's funny Greene greetin about the SFA wanting to change thing's, half way through a season but it's alright for him to try and blackmail Alexander to change his contract, half way through the season
Tam

Poster 13. The refurb at Ibrox, will take a long time unless Mr Green uses a sticky plaster approach. Touch anything structural there and you will have a contamination problem. Do you understand how Ibrox was constructed? It needs six months to sort the place out minimum. Think you will find reconstruction at Hampden is well under way by that time. So looks like sticky Plaster approach from Green.

We're is the blackmail? He's been offered a contract, accept it or reject it simple as that. He's on 10k a week and green is trying to cut that down an people are moaning and people would be moaning if he offered the same wages, can the guy win?

John

@15# Agreed. the structural work brings the asbestos problem to the fore but it seems to be lots of pipework and various electrical lines need replaced ASAP. This is not a major expense as such and would be, estimated, 6-8 weeks.

16 Feb 2013 17:47:18
re- pre season tournies and glamour friendlies I would suggest any invitations to attend these to the 3rd division champions will be due to the fact that
a) the scottish champions will be unavailable due to european commitments via qualifying rounds for the champions League

B) you will be able to provide a very large and welcome support to any ground thus being what you all claim to hate being --A cash Cow--

i would respectfully suggest the Linfield game would be great for you
and possibly organise another legends game at Ibrox and you will be quids in.

i would also suggest any charity games you should invite Star players to play rather than have man united and Arsenal treating them as training games

Pre season friendlies are exactly that - friendly - not a competitive game. Every club takes them easy to avoid injuries.

As for the cash cow, every preseason tournament usually includes latge profile clubs like ours, who can attract 50,000 to a game

I sincerely hope that while we play a friendly in the sunshine you experience an enjoyable trip to the edges of Siberia.
Your big come-down is just around the corner, so we look forward to how you will handle it.

It wasnt that long ago blackburn played pre season against ayr. so don't all pee your pants

17 Feb 2013 00:29:11
we wait with baited breath then for those high profile clubs extending an invitation then. lol. don't be too surprised when Hughie Green starts coming out with " we have had to turn down invitations from X why and Z clubs due to circumstances,,, " as the only thing he has delivered from all his pontifications and promises is the share issue which benefitted him more than your club. in the words of Gerry mcGuire " show us the money"

#3 Blackburn played Ayr in a testamonial for ally McCleod, that was back in 1993. don't expect any serious team to come up and bail out your team. Star players won't come to scotland to play a third rate "rangers" team.

Selic fans buy into the whole friendly game thing year on year out. Why Cause you mugs think its brilliant. RFC have knocked it back for years.

17 Feb 2013 12:44:40
@6 don't quite understand your post? are you saying RFC doint play in friendlies and it is celtic mugs that buy into it? if so why all the announcements of friendlies this year from Hughie Green ( mr opportunity) Money issues maybe?

16 Feb 2013 16:30:40
Am watching game and I think it is the best
performance for a while. The ball is staying on the
floor, and four fantastic goals.

Much better than the high ball game we have, been
playing. Templeton is causing havoc and both his goals
have been top notch.

16 Feb 2013 14:16:03
Ed can you post this please, I feel hooper and samaras cheated the whole way through CL game after game they would stand in front of the goalkeeper stopping him from moving towards the ball at corners and free kicks, is this cheating? I think so, did other teams complain? NO.

Standing in front of the keeper is not illegal and is a lot different to being manhandled by the keeper and defenders. Hooper and Samaras are entitled to stand there, they are however not supposed to be attacked.

Maybe it's up to the goalkeeper to kick them out of the road.

@2 if the keeper kicked them out the road you would be wanting a penalty, always cheated never defeated.

To no2 typical rangers tactic then, yep you must be the same club after all. pat-c

@3: if a keeper kicked a Rangers player out of the way, would you want a penalty?

No but the Samaras blatant dive in the last group game is illegal. Seeking clarification on that are they?

1) intentionally blocking the keeper is illegal - it's called obstruction. Hooper had no intention of playing the ball. His only role was to obstruct the keeper. this ploy worked against benfica when mulgrew crossed, hooper blocked the keeper & samaras scored. the juve management were well aware that this was going to be used again at set pieces so they set out to stop it - a totally professional approach.

Did samaras not dive for a penalty in cl not that long ago that eventually took tic thru? What goes around comes around. WATP

How can a penalty be awarded for pushing when the ball is not in play, only if the pushing happens after the corner is taken can it be a foul! The ref can speak/warn/book players when ball is out of play but cannot award the penalty - perhaps the responce from the authorities should simply be to send a copy of the rule book to lawless & lemon and treat them with the contemp they show the referees!

OMG and no rangers player has ever stood in front of the keeper and to the persons taking about diving? God you need to grow up! I keep forgetting about novo, lovencrabs, Burke etc etc seriously that glass house you all live in must be really nice! Dillusional, the lot of ya!

The standing on the goal line thing you speak off was started by jack charlton and alf ramsey in england matches in the sixties. jack went on to do it for lufc for years. there was a rammy at the time and clarification was given. all players and clubs in the world understand the rules regarding this. its not obstruction. the tactic employed by juve took this a step further and became violent conduct. there are precedents and penalties have been given. by asking for clarification celtic have forced uefa to give a ruling on this matter. its obvious it can't continue and in the future penalties will always be given. I said long before the game that the italians would come up with something which will require the referee to be complicit. its blew up in juves faces a bit as its a big talking point across europe and celtic are being backed by many who have suffered from italian cheating. only this week berlusconi (ex ac milanl) stated that bribery is part of business. he will certainly have bribed refs and probably players. roma have actually admitted bribing the ref against dufc in ec semi. brian clough said it over and over again. they do it as a matter of course, doesn't always work but certainly does you no harm. in the dufc cade the money was simply handed over in a restaurant by a prof. crook. easy.

These comments are so pathetic they are embarrassing. The Juventus Players got away with blatant assault, only a blind man could argue against. let's look at the game with open eyes and not be blinkered. If it was a Rangers player I would say the same thing. This was not football and it sums up thew officials in a year where so much blatant cheating and bribery is now being exposed. No single person should have the power and decision making that a referee does without challenge. One man's decision can have a team lose millions, a manager lose his job and fans be left feeling cheated. I don't care what colour the strip is. IMO

16 Feb 2013 12:58:10
more spin about young players signing on they are being paid buttons

Where is this? I'm sure the boys are quite happy getting long deals.

Can Mr green actually win? People on here complaining we paid players to much now we are playing players not enough?

Would you rather that they were being overpaid?
what's your point?

08 Feb 2013 21:26:10
not a rumour but if you read this, would love your feedback, (ps ED been trying to post a few times just wanting a few opinions) what does everyone think of Green? Ibrox being refurbed ground round Ibrox to be bought and refurbed, shirt sponser and kit manufacture to be named, don't think this gut is up to much, think of it when Gers can buy players honestly think we will hear every excuse under the sun why we didn't pat an extra 50 pence to clinch the deal, I might get slated for this. or sme folk might agree with me in thinking that Green is fleecing us at ANY turn??

Are we so skint that we can't give Alexander a new contract

He TUPEd over and showed true loyalty and now he will be allowed to walk away for NOTHING at the summer

We were told that anyone who stayed would be a LEGEND

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I agree with you mate I think we're being lead down a bad road again we just have to hope Ally or Walter will turn around and say this time because none of us listened to Alistair Johnson last time, I just feel it was very convenient that Greens bid was the only one accepted by D&P he probably was the highest bidder yes but it's clear to see he's in it for one thing only & just like Whyte he wouldn't lose any sleep over killing our club!

Lots of claims but till he delivers on at least one the jury will be out. He needs to be careful, he is sailing very close to breaking stock market rules regarding company statements.

Green is only in it for the money. He is a business man first and foremost but he can see the goal for him and for us - get out of scottish football into a more profitable league. He has laid out his intentions to take the fight to whatever court is necessary and I think he will because it is his greed that drives him on. In The Sun the dark side have John Hartson rolling out the same old bitter vile against him on the day that Green announces that he has written to the PM with his intention to take the Rangers fight to court. For f*!cks sake is this all Hartson has to say? Does he not have anything new?. The sports editor in the sun should be ashamed of himself allowing this rubbish to be written. He says that Green is the loan ranger. Doesn't he know that there are over 45,000 of us supporting our club and quoting a famous line wherever we end up "WE WILL FOLLOW ON".

@2;Did'nt ally endorse whyte? can't see him rocking the boat somehow.

Good business men want to make money yes, but they also want to leave a good profitable company also, green strikes me as someone who wants a quick buck, and doesn't care what he leaves behind.

@4 you are a tool! Who cares what Hartson says! But the absolute drivel and propaganda that you are being fed by your bitter and twisted writers is only fueling your own dimented view of your new club!
45000 fans turning up?! Yeah at very low prices, school give always, free entrance after half time lol
I was in the SR mess at faslane when rangers people (don't know why they let the tax dodging on to the base) were trying to give away large amounts of free tickets! Not many takers at all pmsl. strangely enough I haven't come across many Rangers supporters in the armed forces, hmmm I wonder why?