Rangers Banter Archive February 16 2014

 

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16 Feb 2014 18:23:13
it's only my opinion but I think the ENTIRE under 20's squad should ask for transfers in the summer.
McCoist wants to employ a whole new scouting system and wants a £30m war chest so this obviously means he doesn't rate ANY of the youngsters and they are really wasting their time thinking that they will earn a chance, after all, we ARE 23 points ahead and could have given the entire under 20's a game at Ayr, the result of which would have been meaningless other than actually giving the youngsters some hope.

Get Ally and his buffoons out now when there is still time to save money, and save our club from destruction.

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{Ed039's Note - He didnt ask for £30m but I understand your post and agree with certain points, I think certain players should get a chance from the youths but not putting the entire Under 20s out)

Were you getting your info from bill? Try reading the paper next time

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Thought playing cribari ahead of a youngster yesterday was a joke.

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{Ed039's Note - Yes I think Luca should have played but not the entire U20 squad)

@1 Never mind the papers- you cannot always believe what Ally says-" I never looked at my contract I just signed it"- OAFT!. Just look at the team sheets- Cribari in - no place for Gasparatto.
Ally will always go for experience so why employ scouts to bring in youth who will not get a chance if Ally has "an old head" on the books already.
There are none as blind as those who will not see- but it is truly getting tiresome the defense of our manager's more obvious failings. Ever heard of King Canute - he wanted the waves to stop coming in- but blow me they came in. Something to do with the moon where you and the other Ally apologists must come from John.

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No goals conceded job done for cribari, Nbear what's up with you? You didn't mention we missed out on Robertson? Kris Boyd's a free transfer, what about signing him to play centre back? Since you believe that's what we should do, sign them to play out of position.

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Just like I've been told to read the papers, read my post - I said we "could" have played them all not "should". It was merely an opinion on the tripe that are running our club into oblivion

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I was talking about you saying mccoist wants a £30m war chest, he was talking about players leaving, but you would know this as you read it?

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Johncass your clearly at the wind up now, nobody talks as much nonsense as you, anybody that seen cribari last year knows he's garbage.

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Wee bill for preidente spot on wi everything allys take on everything is in cuckoo land

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White flag of surrender going up here John. I clearly cannot compete with Intelligence Quotients of your level. If we ever form a think tank to get us out of this caoch you will win my vote.

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Our manager does give youngsters a chance. Mcleod, Aird, Hutton, Mckay, Crawford. as for the entire u-20s asking for a transfer ever thought maybe there not good enough and will be released?
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Lol honestly all u hardcore ally haters make me laugh. So if ally deserves the sack which manager in Scotland should still have a job. Simple fact the football is boring because the players find it difficult to preform to there best at this level week in week out who can honestly blame them. They know they are better than all the other teams in this league and will win it with 8/9 games to spare. I applaud them for seeing games out by one or two goals. As for giving youngsters a chance he does what all big teams do he sends them on loan. Mcgregor at Dunfermline comes to mind. Anyway back to u obsessing about ally getting the sack. Should Lennon get the sack after all he failed in two cups getting pumped out one to the team bottom of the championship at parkhead. Terrible in your eyes surely he must be sacked immediately. And my biggest gripe why do u think u have the right to be down right rude to people who disagree with your opinion. There's only one person living on the moon and it ain't ally or johncass.

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Jade Rover calling Earth. Jade Rover calling Earth. Weather lovely wish you were here- oh look some of you are.

To all who took offence at my ill mannered ill judged and in temperate post yesterday I offer my full and humble apologies.

I admit to being in a foul mood yesterday and should have desisted from posting.

Being a bit older than most on here I possibly have grown up with more robust "banter" being the "norm" however nonetheless rudeness is uncalled for and I therefor offer my full and unreserved apologies to those who found offence in my remarks.

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U didnae say anything that was wwrong

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Nbear I must've been having a bad day aswell, because you only said what I was thinking, johncass is 1 of these guys that probably backed whyte and green and when it all goes tits up he says us poor fans how can it happen to us? Some fans need a reality check on here, rangers are in a bad way and winning the Scottish cup only stops the bleeding for 1 day.

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Sweep1 what is it exactly we need a reality check about. Rangers are in a bad way you don't say Einstein. So what do you want us to do be like u say were no going back calling for boycotts etc etc. aye cause that would really help the rangers cause. The only thing that would cause is definite admin. Aye nae bother mate but its us who need the reality check er don't think so nice to see your up there on the moon aswell. And finally unless u hadn't noticed the whole of Scottish footballs in a bad way not just rangers. Difference is I would rather get behind the manager and the team not against them. I will be there to the end if the end happens. This does not make me deluded nor does it mean I live on the moon or cloud cooku land. It means I'm loyal and want desert my team. By the way I know we have been well and truly fleeced I know ally ain't the best manager in the world. I know the players don't give 100%. But guess what rangers are rangers and I know I'm a rangers fan.

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Applause for pat the true rangers fan, no point in boycotts now should've happened a year ago while you were most probably boycotting Dundee utd game along with mr green.

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But what we are all trying attain is the best deal for the club that doesnnot mean we stick our head in the sand and wait for the end we must go forward striving to make things better if that means changing managers trying young players as sure as s**** drops fae a donkey that's what has to happen if itakes reality checks all round itmust be

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16 Feb 2014 18:05:54
have to say I watched Man City v Chelsea and Arsenal v Liverpool.
Scottish football is LIGHT years away from that level.

I've said before, our game is dying rapidly and NOTHING is going to save it.

Celtic will walk the premier league, we will walk league 1, but for what? Look at the attendances for a start, there have been a few improvements but these fans will disappear again when their clubs achieve absolutely nothing. There are HUGE open spaces at ALL grounds you only have to watch SPL highlights and Ibrox too - Sad but true.

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Thought the game was dying even before we went out the SPL.

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Our game is dying because it became two teams winning, and diddy teams not winning anything for 80+years.

thus 90% of fans and cash follow two teams, and it became boring.

At least now with two ex-player managers who stepped straight into our biggest manager roles, we have chance for other teams to win something and revive.

But only two teams with 50,000+ stadiums. and therefore moneymen will dictate our future footy.

Rugby, Football and Banking where we are independent of England - and in all three its dire with 30 years of pish.

were all doomed.

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Presidente spot on again we have went from one first countries to have live televised foot ball we have turned into third rate leagues one reason for once celtic and rangers were right wantingto stick with sky but rest were gready went with setanta they went skint we crawled back to sky and got a pittance we really have totry some out the box thinking play some league games in america get exposure try something different cut price of admission man wi two kids costs afortune to go to football lok at the amount greedy clubs in s p l that charged old firm fans more for away games give value for money and crowds may improve even try less live games because when game is on telly crowds plummet

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{Ed039's Note - Also clubs like Killie milking it as well, remember they wanted the Celtic end filled more than their own end so they in fact charged their own fans more than Celtic supporters, I think we are too late but I thought SPL or SPFL TV might have been the way forward)

Ur right we must try something and one the other problems is supporters having to travel peterhead on afreezing cold winters night to suit tv is no good time some of head pees at hampden got there heads out the sand or in 2-3 years it will be too late

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16 Feb 2014 13:30:42
not been on a while as the amount of craig that been flying backwards and forwards between - the board give them time loyal, the allys***sperfumedtenners loyal, the SoS loyal (I have always thought the ask the 3 fair questions all still unanswered) and the RST loyal (I support the fans ownership thing) I feel is all counter productive and not doing what WE ALL want moving us forward.

been watching the football and happy as usual - winning and promoted 99% 2016 we are HOME all the craig we have been through has helped 'lose' 2 years strange but true for me

have to say though ally seriously is neverending in his ability to embarrass my club and us as intelligent people

typical ally classic - It's difficult to put a figure on it, impossible.

then he starts with the crazy valuations and the ludicrous estimate of how much we need to beat celtic, both implied within his statements regarding loss of players and the potential cost to win league back.

£30million? okay:

FIRSTLY let's take Lenny and his annual goal for the traditional celtic Oneble, he has not laid out remotely that bringing in his players and certainly didn't replacing a losing squad he started with against Walter and one of I think our GREAT wee squads considering financial TSB constraints so he does not have a team of world beaters there we know that and as judged by their cup form in ALL cups nothing to fear.

SECONDLY let's look at what for me should be the Rangers model McInnes and the team that plays below inverness but above dundee (on a map) they have not laid out £30million or £3million nearer £1.5million
The TOTAL value of their squad is roughly the value of Lee Wallace Nicky Law Lewis MacLeod and Cammy Bell (if you factor in the salaries we pay and they pay)
Ok you might say being unfair to the pursewelders but seriously did you see a signing McInnes made that Ally would have had the good sense to and a wage structure to match I might add? No I didn't think so either.

Now let's see, Aberdeen outplayed Celtic at the McCannoset Stadium so, SERIOUSLY, how much do you think a good football manager, Mr McInnes being the ONLY person I have mentioned to date on here to qualify for the job description, would need to upgrade the current flock of sheep to win the SPFL next year?

My guess McInnes is going to spend £2m he will get for League Cup win and his share of spoils for taking Aberdeen to a glorious runners up place in the Scottish Cup (ok I might be dreaming here as I feel if it is us and them in final he cannot possibly lose a tactical battle with ally saddens me to say but cheers me up as maybe we might sack n hire based on that)

anyway I will as for now wait, watch and see, my honest hope I have now is that we are at last being shown how to do as Hearts have done (AGREE with posters, love they fact they have saved their club the right way) buy our club as fans or at least a major/majority say in its running and control. lafs can you imagine ally coming to us as fan owners with his demands and grand designs with the cost and wage structure he would want? yes 50000 boots straight out the door its one thing loving ally as a supporter its a whole different ballgame if you are paying for his fantasy football.

RTID

george

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Mcoist is an embaressment, he's a yes man, will spout guff as long as is HUGE salary is paid. Why bring cfc into it. it's rfc its all about. It should have been a new fresh start2 years ago, but heading for financial woes once again. The deeds question has never been answerd, as its al spiders web off deceit and lies. Yes hearts have went about it in the rit manner, and will cut there cloth too it, also McCann had a5year plan and saved them and are on a financial goo footing, wallace says a 5year plan. I bet it won't last 5months. no lessons learned over 2years&the money pit is in a perilous stage again.

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{Ed039's Note - financial goo footing, sorry I would have edited that bit but didnt know what it was meant to say)

I think there is a d missing Ed at the end of goo (hey we've all done that) but otherwise I agree mostly with the joker's post.

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{Ed039's Note - That would make sense)

Aye I still think whyte will surface that's what I was told at the time I hope not but what I can't understand is how no one can get to the centre of things

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16 Feb 2014 14:06:43
People like Kfraser and Johncass are going be in for a reality check 2 seasons from now, everything seems to be about the result, ok rangers are winning every week, but what's it proving? We are playing teams we should be beating every week, put Andy Murray up against players 350th and below in the world and he will win every week, ally will get found out no doubts about it. Maybe even next season but in the premiership we will be in deep trouble, we should be getting the right manager in now, keeping ally on the wage he's on makes no sense to the club long term.

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Sweep I your spot on I've said many times about youth this is the time to try them out now and if they don't make it move them on itwill come next season we still won't know if they can cut the mustard and we will stil have a huge playing staff iy really upsets me that macoist can't grasp this

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Sweep you are a perfect example of the negative posters, what's wrong with praising a win, regardless who the opposition? Am sure you would be quick enough to say something if it was a defeat or draw. Yes everything is about the result, that's what the 11 on the park try to get. As we go up the leagues players will come and go, time will tell if we will struggle

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Sweep it is all about results always will be managers live n dies by them in a ideal world we would play magic n win but at the end of the day its all about winnin and as for when we get back in the top flight I think ul see a different team than we have now. win lose or draw rangers always

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Fact is the board won't sack a manager who is winning, and a manager who is winning won't leave.

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You mentioned me sweep1, so thanks for the intro.

Big deal that we're winning all our games and we should get rid of Ally.

Question answered.

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John cass may say its all about results but the fact is if he cannae put out team to win these games god help us I am quite cetain if we make semis we could get a pasting like last year from dundee utd an caley thistle

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It is about the results, a doubt we will get a pasting, time will tell

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Johncass are you watching the same rangers team as us?

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Yes are you? Is there honestly a team in the scottish cup that frightens you?

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Was there honestly a team we should have feared in league cup (ie forfar)

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No ibj, they beat us wow. Do you think we will get a pasting because Forfar beat us last year?

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Anything is possible I only hope we don't but the games last year against caley and dundee utd were embarassing especially against dundee wi all hype of the boycott

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16 Feb 2014 14:02:15
Watching Swansea playing thinking "Bartleys actually looking like a good player" then 2minutes later - off injured. No change there.

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And there goes naismith to join him on the injury table

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Take it Naismith injured his back while picking up his 30 pieces of silver he got when deserting us?

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16 Feb 2014 07:48:02
Anyone know if luca gasparotto was injured yesterday or is he had his loan extended? I was puzzled when I seen our central defensive partnership of Cribari and Faure for the game. Surely we must have a few youngsters who can do a better job that the Cribari, he isn't interested in football, any player who is happy to sit on the bench and collect their pay check rather than move on and get first team football is seriously flawed in my opinion. He reminds me of big bobo balde at celtic a few years back.
We have this league sown up, I wouldn't mind if we dropped a few points from now until the end of the season as long as we were giving youngsters a chance. They need game time and if we can't do it now when we are playing part timers and are 23 points clear then when will it happen? We should not be fielding dead weight who will be dropped as soon as their contracts are over at the end of the season when we can be building for our future and giving the youth a chance. It must also be pretty demoralising to know that they can't even get a game when we have our first choice pairing out, and middle aged money grabbers are before them in the team. This just makes no sense to me at all.
Also on another point, I really don't think we can judge peralta yet, he has arrived from a much more technically gifted south american league to the third tier of Scottish football, it will take him time to adjust, especially as he has not been played in his natural position all season. He is a DM, not a winger. He should be in the team over black every single week. peralta anchoring the midfield would allow law more freedom and would also add a little cover to our defense. He ticks all of the boxes, he just needs more game time, I for one am certain he will come good. He is solid and won't go around moaning about the tough tackles he is receiving.

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I totally agree if macoist won't give young players a go now he never will u may be right about peralta because he he came hear straight from s america tournament and had no close season and for cribari he should be run out the door by the scruff of the neck what iwll say about black at ayr yesterday he got kicked right left and centre and got nothing from the ref but I was shocked at the amount of backroom staff ally has the amount of suits going about the touchline before the game is horrendus there be must be savings to be made there without even touching the coaches as I am always moaning about allys tactics then he makes a statment about standing back and looking at bigger picture to capture allys staff and helperswoul take a full gable end in belfast to get them all in the bigger picture is the club is losing money and something must be done to rectify things I don't like people losing there jobs but its time to smell the coffee and get things sorted and I hope g wallace is big enough to meet the challenge head on and get club on an even keel

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Totally agree with both above posts

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