Rangers Banter Archive January 16 2015

 

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16 Jan 2015 21:11:39
the pitch was better when ref stopped it than it was at the start really dissapointing I was certain we could have won tonight

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Not really. When the ref started it was all covered in soft snow. When he stopped it, it was patchy with clumps of half melted ice. Big difference. Just because you could see grass doesn't mean the conditions were better.

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16 Jan 2015 21:48:44
Have to agree bigwull we had an unbelievable chance to put one over the jambos tonight everything was in our favour the pitch was far more conducive to the ball being humped up and down the pitch keeping it off the playing surface as long as possible a game we know inside out, also gutted for all Bears who made their way to the game or the protest safe journey home.

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Soton bear although it was unfair on the support, I think for the good of both teams the game had to be stopped, imagine a player from either team got a career ending injury, then people would have been saying it should have been stopped

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Agree, I feel hearts where done a favour.

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Soton bear 100% right I really thought we would turn them over last night and the players looked up for it

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Bigwull the players should be looking up for it every game, regardless of the opposition. or the occasion.

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George123 your right but if we had won last night it would have brought back a whole lot of confidence back which has been lacking it also would have rocked hearts a bit too alas not to be

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Bigwull, you've got to look at it two ways mate, what would have happened if they had beaten us due to a couple of player being red carded for late tackles due to the conditions.

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16 Jan 2015 20:11:06
Can anyone confirm that only 50% is the required votes for Dave kings resolution to be passed? Surely he must be quietly confident if that's the case?

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{Ed039's Note - 51% for this resolution to pass)

16 Jan 2015 22:37:04
Sorry to harp on about this but why is king including himself as one of the directors, with his convictions he will not be able to take up a directorship. Is he intentionally sabotaging his own bid?

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If Mr King does as he said he will do he will invest heavy sums to put our Club right. Do you think he will pour in millions or even tens of millions of his own money without a say on how its spent? Who would? You would need to be insane. Besides I'd rather have tthat than Mike Ashley's puppets tying up our assets for their boss who's total shares have cosy no more than 1.5 million, remember he has penny shares from charlie almost 6% are n that's not all charlie gave him. I wonder if Mike was the man who loaned charlie the 5.5 million to purchase us as well as initial running costs. Which was all paid back n then some within the tens of millions that has dissapeared. One things for sure Mr King is the ONLY man to promise a forensic examinationof the accounts n that will do for me!

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Ed039 Took me a while but I finally convinced you

JG

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Rm gers brilliant post mate, ime dying to see were the money disappeared, but I would put a wager on more people getting charged with fraud before much longer.

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15 Jan 2015 22:41:57
What will be the punishment on 27 Jan?

Ed what are the Sfa's options and in your opinion what do you think they will do.

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{Ed039's Note - I dont exactly know what their options are, probably a fine and a ticking off)

Good question HQ ---- what will be the punishment be??
Could I suggest that we reprise what happened all these years back??
Could I ask you Bears to think of that wonderful phrase which was on the lips of the supporters of all Scottish clubs when it came to putting the heavy studded footwear into Rangers ----- REMEMBER???
Ah yes ------ Sporting Integrity ---- well, now the SFA has an opportunity to repay the Rangers fans who now wish to have our measure of that wonderful remedy that you INSISTED was good for the game in Scotland ---- you the leader of the FANS -- you who insisted that the FANS should be listened too.

OK Football's leader's, Listen to US for a change --- forget the business end of things and think of what the fans of Glasgow Rangers are trying to accomplish --- we are fighting for the continued existence of one of the world's most iconic football clubs and you can help us to achieve this by employing your own doctrine which you introduced those few years ago ----LISTEN TO THE FANS ---- that is the opportunity the SFA has on Jan 27 ---- Help us to regain our club by stopping an individual who, by virtue of his great wealth, has infiltrated the very fibre of Rangers ---- Help us and yourselves to rid Scottish Football of a person who has never heard of your great phrase "SPORTING INTEGRITY"

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Kerrymac. Good post pal, maybe you should pop it in an envelope and sent them it pal, just as a reminder to them that was there philosophy.

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16 Jan 2015 20:35:18
Now. Postponed could play into our hands guys!!. Now call me crazy but bear with me here,
So that gives us two games against hearts and a possible 6pts up for grabs, they still have hibs away to play who I really believe can turn them over and IF we can pick up some form and I think we just need to tweak a bit here and there we could be in with a glimmer of catching them and causing the biggest comeback Since rocky beat creed lol

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Born blue. That was the same sinario before a ball was kicked tonight, was it not

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Haha you are funny😂😂😂

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Have u been watching Rangers recently? We are rank rotten and McDowall has went with the same team, tactics and formation. If you think we can win the rest of our games and catch Hearts then your indulging in fantasy football. It's the playoffs for us and anything can happen

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16 Jan 2015 20:02:13
Just a thot I know we are already a laughing stock and we don't have 2 pennies to rub together but ibrox does have under soil heating. Correct me if I'm wrong guys?

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The show came on heavy it should never have been started

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My thoughts totally that's what happens when you don't pay the leccie bill lol

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Under soil heating takes while to have any effect

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Under soil heating costs a fortune 1200 a day I believe

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Bornblue. totally correct, under soil heating, that ground should have been perfect. what a set up, made mugs of again, if there had been no protest outside the game would have been finished. what I wonder is who talked the ref into abandoning it. stinks to high heaven as usual. gary

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16 Jan 2015 21:52:43
That undersoil heatin is well out of commision.Noticed last week hof the floodlights are broken on the Govan Stand as well.Sad state of affairs all round.

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I believe they will have had it switched to low setting or off all together, as this is very heavy on the gas bill! And they probably owe a fortune in unpaid bills! IMO

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Must have ground sheets that we could have covered the park with? if not what was wrong with grounds men clearing snow off park.
turning into a laughing stock at every level now.
will fans be entitled to a refund.

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Bluebeard I heart the commentators saying most of the groundsmen have been paid of a few weeks ago, don't know if there is any truth in it, they spoke to both managers after the wee game, and both were happy enough the game was stopped for fear of players being injured, maybe even career ending injury, and personally I agree.

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When was the last time a game was called off at Ibrox due to the condition of the pitch?

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Goods there may be something in my post above that has some truth to it, after all had there been groundsmen at ibrox las night they had an hour to clear the park, ime sure there were people in the crowd that would helped out, had they been asked.

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16 Jan 2015 19:40:43
Lets we have enough votes to kick the current board out on their asses

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16 Jan 2015 19:35:03
Again foster nd smith Allys team hopefully not hos tactics

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As Aird said the other day nothing much has changed since Ally left and that is reflected in team selection and performance. Don't know if McDowall is trying to prove a point or is incredibly thick but if those same players and tactics didn't work under McCoist then why would it work now?

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16 Jan 2015 19:28:13
Posts are becoming repetitive and boring now, but I will bow to the majority and let the lunatics take over the assylum.
If a block on income to our club continues there will be no club and all the assets will be gone.
I sincerely hope some guidance is given from King or the Park group to enable sense to prevail, but I have my doubts.
As far as the fans 'spokespeople' are concerned, no comment is my best option.
In 60 years as a bluenose I have never been so disgusted in all my life.
I genuinely hope the game is called off tonight as my appetite for everything associated with our once great club is gone. Sick does not even get close to how I feel.

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Billy b the lunatics don't understand for every pound that is kept off the club the 3bears have to pay it back with interest making less money available for restructuring club and new management team some of the mass hysteria over ashleys loan borders on insanity taking legal advice etc who provides the loan as the saying goes is imatrecle (probably wrong spelling) the main thing is the club get it I also have been speaking to various people down south and they all rate lamas or whatever his name is but surely there must be commonsense as for the leaders of the so called supporters factions they are only glory hunters who put glory rather than looking after their members interests (puts me in mind of the n u m who were numb representives)

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BIGWULL, Unfortunately the ante mob think we are pro Ashley, whereas we are pro Glasgow Rangers.
As far as the clowns that were protesting outside, I hope they watch the tv footage and their leaders are proud of their ''tactics''.
I heard Ashley has now appointed bodyguards from Mothercare.

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Bigwull when the bears get control the stadium will be bouncing, so any shortfall will be made up quickly IMHO.

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Dont bet on it some people will never go back because the have found other things to do probably better than being frozen on a cold winters day the stadium is needing to upgraded to be a liitle more fan friendly its a bit tatty in places

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Bigwull, fair enough but I speak for myself, I've been on the golf course trying to play golf lol, but I know I and a lot of my family and friends will be back once the right people are in place.

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16 Jan 2015 19:23:34
Putting off field matters aside and focusing on tonights games it's over before it's started. Playing Aird and Hutton again. Aird is feckin useless. Can't go past a man, couldn't make a cross to save his life and contributes feck all. Worse than a man down and Hutton ain't far behind.

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17 Jan 2015 10:04:23
Who would u rather play? He plays black he gets slaughtered, he drops black, he still gets slaughtered

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If he had played black hearts players would have wound him up and he would have been red carded again clown that he is at least macdowall has stood up to him we would have to do without him when suspended any way

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16 Jan 2015 18:53:47
Understand King has called for an EGM

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16 Jan 2015 18:11:15
I know the game is on bt sports but does anyone know if I can get it on the computer as I'm at work tonight

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Cricfree. tv

make sure you have a good pop up blocker

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Egm called for tonight according to ssb

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16 Jan 2015 16:57:12
Good luck to all protesting tonight, give them hell. Sorry I won't be there in person as I am on a nightshirt.
Good luck to the team tonight aswell

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Hope it is a lovely nightshirt.

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Hope the shirt keeps you warm lol

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16 Jan 2015 16:56:39
I understand people who have bought there season ticket but this is the chance tonight to show them on game days that we can pull together and unite as one we need to show that fat guy at Newcastle we are not mugs on his merry boat ride this our history and our way of life we are the people boycott boycott boycott

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16 Jan 2015 15:47:05
I don't want to go to the game the night but happy to be part of the protest we need to make sure the ground is empty and make sure the bt sport cameras here us outside the ground fellow Bears who's with me front doors at 7pm

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16 Jan 2015 16:16:06
That's if there will be a game to protest at.It doesn't look too good.

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16 Jan 2015 15:14:17
OK to all the boycoters out there, what do you think your boycott has achieved so far? There's even talk of going up to Ibrox tonight and not going in to the game, What?Surely it would be better to have a protest outside the main door then go to the match and carry on our protest inside in front of the TV cameras and a national audience.
For what its worth I believe that the boycott has played into Ashleys hand and caused our best player, and one of Scotlands best prospects, to be sold. If Ashley lends us 10 mil and we can't pay it back through ST money what do you think is going to happen?

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If Ashleys intentions towards Rangers where in Rangers best interest and not his own he could have stopped the sale of MaCleod with one phone call he could even have bought him for Newcastle then loaned him back, the boycotters are not to blame for any of this

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16 Jan 2015 16:22:21
why on earth do they take a lone they can not afford to pay back that should be question u ask not blaming supporters why the rush for ten million does this mean they are going stop the new share issue ibrox will never be full again untill we see the benefits to the club THE CLUB WHERE ALL WAYS GOING TO RUN OUT OF MONEY SO SHOULD HAVE EXPECTED THIS THEY SHOULD LET OTHER INVESTORS INVEST BUT NO ASK YOURSELF WHY THEY WILL NOT LET ANYONE IN TO BLAME FANS IS A CHEEK SEASON TICKET SALES WILL BE DOWN IF BOARD REMAIN IN CHARGE NOT UP

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Great point lochaberbear.

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Lochaberbear I do not think the boycotters are the ones to blame for the current state of affairs but I still do not think it helps.

Money coming in from ticket sales could be paying the bills as they come up but instead they have the opportunity to accept loans from Ashley giving him more and ore power in the board room without having to buy shares.

I'm all for protesting but I don't think doing it outside the ground is the only or best way to do it. This match is on BT sport and there will be a lot of press for this game. Do it in the ground for the entire game.

Just my opinion. I'll be at the game as usual and I certainly don't blame anybody for not going but I do feel a tad disappointed when I see so many empty seats every other week.

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Jyf

Get a grip - this is a chance to be united with a common cause to save our stadium and long term the club. It's guys like you that have dragged this out. We should have had a boycott months ago.
Good luck tonight to all taking part

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I can't agree with the 'support them then no loan required ' argument. We filled the stadium for two years solid and the money went back out the side door. This is a plot to secure the club against its assets exactly the same as is the case at Newcastle. Bottom line is this loan scenario would happen either way, it's how Ashley operates and secures his long term investment.

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Depends on how or what you expect to happen with this bunch of robbers. Played into Ashleys hands how? as for our best player going that money was needed to cover Easdales loan. why fans boycott the main culprits for this?
Our large over paid squad is mainly to blame for that little nonsense. plus we have not lived with in our means since the start of the journey. plus. we have had vast amounts of money leaving the club in massive bonuses etc , that again is not the fans fault? why would any fan feel that a boycott would be the main issue for the complete rubbish that is going on at Ibrox?
Stop looking through you blue tinted glasses at this charade. and open your eyes to the truth. even if there was no boycott. MA and his hidden share owners are the ones who have all the power they are the ones who are making /taking the money and don't shout this to loud. its all the fans,, even the boycotting ones who are the ones being frisked rotten. but hey ho Jyf keep going and do nothing,,, something good will come up at end of it. (not)
You seem to have missed the point that we have in reality not been able to pay back loans from the onset. all they do (board) is give out assets in return for loans it all part of a pre arranged great club robbery. It was thought out many years ago,,,,, and is working like a dream.
Looking at this may hopefully change your mind as to who is still to blame.
"The forms submitted to the Land Registry were approved by Leach & Llambias only, without board or NOMAD approval. Imran Ahmad was also at WH Ireland offices yesterday - this is an absolute carve-up. Ahmad, Green & Stockbridge are involved. " (anon)

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16 Jan 2015 17:47:38
All it takes for evil to thrive is for good people to do nothing! BOYCOTT or lose our club.

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@8 boycotting IS doing nothing and by the way NO ONE is blaming the fans for anything, the board are to blame for it all but our tactics are destroying the very thing we are trying to protect.

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@7 My original post was a question which has gone unanswered, What has the boycott achieved?
THE FANS ARE TO BLAME FOR NOTHING THAT HAS HAPPENED TO OUR GREAT CLUB.
Our tactics are all wrong and if you try to tell me that King has not been manipulating us just the same as the rest of the players in this soap opera then you are being very naive.

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16 Jan 2015 13:51:43
So, clothing chain USC ( owned by Sports Direct) is saved from insolvency by being bought by sister company Republic (owned by Sports Direct) and will continue to "trade as normal" according to the legally appointed insolvency firm. wait for it. Duff & Phelps!. I smell Sh*te!

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Posted that at the time of the usc collapse. question now is, was ashley involved even back when rangers went into admin, and was it really him that used d&p!!

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Anything is possible now Boyblue. question is. are we mad enough now to take action required?

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Ayr bear - Boycott Republic get yer togs oot a top man!!

ps
just a wee bit o banter for Friday afternoon before I go for a cold beer M8 its roastin here!

whatever your actions tonight bears keep it respectable and let's hope we pump the jambos

Miller to score and rangers win

JG

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16 Jan 2015 13:10:39
ED. Any chance of a simple poll, do fans want Ashley yes or no. Thanks ED.

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{Ed001's Note - I will add it to be a poll of the day.}

16 Jan 2015 14:35:17
This parasite is effectively breaking in to our house at our lowest ebb and stealing the family silver and you ask if we want him or not?

I despair I honestly do.

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Read all my posts pal before you get on your high horse, then you will know I can't stand the man. The reason I've asked for the poll is because he clearly has some supporters who still back him, and I think it will be interesting just to see how many.

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16 Jan 2015 15:18:46
Royalblue Very nicely put mate.

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Cheers gkk.

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16 Jan 2015 16:56:47
The number of backers he has on here you could fit in a phone box and the ones he does have well, Frankly their opinion isn't worth a Feck given the facts that are evident to even the less enlightend among us.

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Realranger7. we are on the same side as each other, I hope the poll says 100% no. I just can't believe that they're are still some people out there who actually think Ashley would be good for Rangers be it one person or 100 people.

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16 Jan 2015 13:07:29
All bears ibrox front doors 7pm tonight! let's give these spivs a few kind words

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16 Jan 2015 12:13:44
Afternoon Bears,

After reading yesterdays media regarding Ashley and Ibrox/Murray Park, I have to admit I understand the boycott outlook by most of the fans, however this is the way I see it panning out should the Three Bears not be able to cut Ashley off at the pass.

1. Ashley gives the board the 10million loan in exchange for the Ibrox and Murray Park Securities.

2. The fans boycott games, starving the board of cash to pay back the Ashley loan.

3. Ashley then owns Ibrox and Murray Park due to the loans being defaulted on.

4. We are then well and truly screwed with Ashley in the driving seat. owning the club through a relatively small shareholding and surrounded by his men on the board.

Or we continue to got to the games and keep the club afloat and hope that with the buying up of shares by the Three Bears and King that the long game (dare I say) will prevail in the end. Three years is enough pain for any fan. but is there more to come. Can we hold on?

I guess what I am saying is that I fully agree with the idea of the boycotts. but this will do nothing more in the long term than play into the hands of Ashley's ownership agenda. Even look at the merchandising deals. the club has to buy surplus kit should it not sell in his stores. There is no lose lose in this for that fat rat. I really hope that something legal can be done to stop this and an EGM is called today! Time is a wasting.

All of this rings true to the same time prior to last years AGM when the requisitioners never called an EGM over concern of costing Rangers money. and eventually were out manoeuvred be to this good grace. I would hope that the same has not happened to the Three Bears and Dave King.

Thoughts?

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Whether we fill the stadium or not the fatrat will not give up until Ibrox is called the sports direct arena, and the players are covered in head to toe in sport direct logos. I wouldn't even put it past him to try and rename edmiston drive sports direct way. This guy cares as much about Rangers as I do about the other lot from the east of the city. KEEP ASHLEY OUT.

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I say enough is enough, boycott games and don't but any merchandise from the shops. We need to force this current board out and get people in that want what's best for the club and not what's best to line their pockets. This should have been a complete walkout from the beginning of the season and maybe just maybe we could have started moving in the right direction

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16 Jan 2015 13:12:29
alrus blue 2. The fans boycott games, starving the board of cash to pay back the Ashley loan
yet another poster blaming the fans
the board are blowing money right left and center have no way of paying back Ashley loan if we had a full stadium we would still need the cash so to blame fans is getting a bit boring now to be honest what's going to be the board excuse this time to knock back the loan

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16 Jan 2015 13:24:37
Royal blue

This is my fear also but I also understand that the board will play the matters here if there is no money going into the club. They will say well. 'what were we meant to do when we had no money to pay back Ashley?'.
Its as plain as the nose on your face.

Im all for the boycott but realise the negative aspects that it will bring. I can't wait to see that back of Ashley and I hope that some legal blocking can come into play or the SPFL can do something?

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16 Jan 2015 13:28:55
Craig8688

Your right in what you say but i'm not blaming the fans if that's what you meant. i'm taking a step back and trying to access Ashley's agenda.

He'll be thinking if as fans we love the club, we have no choice but to continue to support the team when he gets his hands on the stadium and training park.

The positive I suppose is that we have the chance of an EGM should the Three Bears & King manage to get enough other shareholders on side to gain the 51% required to oust the current board. This will happen. its just when.

I do hope that it can all be brought to an end by Three Bears and King soon.

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16 Jan 2015 13:36:48
I want this board out the same as everyone else but can someone please tell me what money are they suppose to be robbing/blowing as the way way I see it there's not enough coming in to pay wages etc hence the reason for loans, I can see why with whyte then green with the share issue money, so what money are this board blowing? (i can also see the retail deal with ashley being unfair)
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Alrus blue. I know where your coming from mate, and it's a hard one for any fan, but if we filled the stadium tonight and for the rest of the season, then where will the money go, there is no trust left between the fans and the board. I personally will not put one more penny of my hard earned cash into the pockets of chancers, liars and thieves. I just can't wait for the day until I am on sites like this talking about football again.

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R. F.

Off course money is leaking out of Ibrox Left Right and Chelsea. Easiest way to look at it is this, as it stand the player budget at Ibrox as % of Turnover is one of the lowest around. 99% of clubs would love to have there player budge at 30-35% of turnover.

Normally this is the biggest expenditure. So you have to ask why are we in this mess, if our player budget is the lowest it ever has been.
Answer, because the board are either squandering or rewarding them self. Why do you think every year for the past 3 years there has been all the misinformation and delays when it comes to issuing the yearly accounts. Is this the actions of peopel with nothing to hide?

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16 Jan 2015 14:16:37
70m gone in 2yrs in wages and pay offs for directors also not including onerous contracts catering and security by mr green money paid out to investors etc .they don't want anyone looking under the bonnet of rangers because they would find where the gravy train is going alledgedly

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16 Jan 2015 14:23:57
but with income also down due to poor st sales and falling attendances surely this equates to a lower wage bill, I'll give u they pay themselves excessive wages so the way I see it there's not enough coming in to pay wages etc let alone blow.
r. f

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Alrusblue is only staing the facts as they stand and I agree. The key is to get an egm asap and remove the board by a democratic vote of shareholders. I believe King etc will win any vote hands down, so to boycott only makes thinks more difficult to address when they control things.
As I've said, many times, this season should be written off, re-group and target the beginning of next season as day 1 of our recovery.
This way it is only a loan that has to be paid off and not the loss of Ibrox and the training facility.
Finally, the bulk of the cash 'stolen' is gone and our current losses are down to the way the club is structured, so with our board in place this could be sorted by next season. If this happens we will win the premier league in 2 years. [ if we can unite. ]

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16 Jan 2015 14:39:25
@5 I keep hearing/reading different views on this 51 per cent or 75 to oust this board,I've read its 51 at an AGM but 75 at an EGM.Can someone who knows their stuff on this help a man out?Cheers.

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16 Jan 2015 14:51:23
well rf if you had a business would you communicate with customers or would you treat them with contempt falling attendances are due to people absolutely sick of the board and have already said enough is enough I have my memories from 72 and breaks my heart to see us in this state the fans have to unite and get this once great club back but believe me ashley is not the answer

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Gkk, firstly there is no need to vote to remove directors at an AGM as they automatically resign and are put up for re-election,

Regarding your question, go on the website and read our articles of association (our rules to govern the company) section 23. 2 states that a director can be removed by an ordinary resolution,
an ordinary resolution can be put forward at an EGM and requires a majority to be accepted or 50. 01%

JG

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16 Jan 2015 15:09:51
billy b a get your point bout vote but what happens if king 3 bears get defeated board do not have money to pay loan back if we do not get promoted spells disaster for the club they need the money Ashley has got every income stream going in his pockets there is so many underhand deals at our club it will take years to unravel wallace nash mccoist all cost money to get rid of them and all directors salary s trust me these people are taking money out ibrox in bucket loads this is our problem once proper owners are in charge then club will not start to recover

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16 Jan 2015 15:26:39
JG I'll take your word/post for it mate. Cheers.

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Craigs8688, These boycotts will ensure that we are fined with points also deducted, at best. Liquidation will mean that we lose Ibrox and Auchenhowie, but worst of all the licence to play in any league. Ashley will ''move on'' the assets and there will not be anything for King etc. to salvage. Our choice is the devil or the deep blue sea. We can harness the devil but with the other we are sunk.

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Billyb are you saying the club will be fined for fans boycotts, that's the first I've heard that one, surely can't be possible

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George123, Not the boycotts, the loss of income with potential administration.
Remember the egm is potentially 6weeks away.
I re-iterate what I feel the best way forward would be:-
i] Accept Ashley's loan assuming terms are not onerous.
ii] Fill the stadium and back the club's finances.
iii] At the egm replace the board by a democratic vote.

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16 Jan 2015 11:16:16
i Hope all bears fans come along tonight and join the protest and bring along as many friends and family as humanly possible I don't think it would make one jot of a difference to Ashley as he has already shown contempt for us, but we have to try something.

if this does not make Ashley stand up and take notice I wonder if 100 plus bears fans standing outside the enterance of every Sports Direct store in Scotland protesting making it awkward for them to do business will make him take notice

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Isnt a protest selfdefeating and just who is acceptable. given that some other group may not like the investors you do.?

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Ashley does not care who he upsets. He will do what he wants, if he can get away with it. If the puppets give over the stadium, I think that will be the last straw for me.

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I think we have to be a bit smarter in our protests, start using the things Ashley wants against him. At the same time as not starving the club of gate receipts so we don't need his loans.

He wants free advertising because of the size of the audience and media coverage, So let's start using the the same audience and media coverage to display our concern about with Big banners, expose his immoral greed, he makes his fortune by with his use of Zero ours contracts, let's find out where his own brand merchandise is made, i. e if made in India or the likes how much are these worker being paid.

Cant beet a good big banner criticizing not, only his involvement with just rangers but his ethics in the rest of his business, splashed across the press.

This way, along with his advertising goes Bad publicity, as the media report - Make it a marketing nightmare for him. To the point it become s more of a hassle for him that it is worth.

Those in the main stand for the first 10 mins of every match, don't watch the match but turn there backs on the director seating area, let's let the whole world see our dislike for them, and the let the media portrait the same.

Lets organise protests out side his shops, for his use of Zero hours contracts, and not to buy rangers merchandise from here.

Lets advocate the use of his rival DW sports, let's support him to squeeze him even more, so that Operating in Scotland is not profitable for him.

Send signed petitions from fans to the board pledging not to buy merchandising so they know not to order stock, that way they can't over order stock, and Ashley has to pay something back. This will also add pressure to the board, as they are legally obliged to act on behalf of all shareholders.

Start an online petition to get the number of signatures we need to have our case heard by politicians to look at accounts and the business dealings of the board.

Hold protests at McGill bus depots, until Easedale either sells or stops supporting Ashley, also set up social media campaigns advocating boycotts

Lets think of some catchy tunes to sing at matches to get Ashely out. It is better to single out one board member rather than them all, get them out one by one, the old saying Untied they stand Divided they fall.

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{Ed001's Note - everybody already knows how he runs his business, but he still sells loads of stuff because no one cares. Your idea is pointless. It achieves nothing but putting more money in his back pocket through extra free advertising as it gets mentioned across more places and in the news.}

16 Jan 2015 09:49:44
Does anyone know which way the following shareholders are likely to swing in the event of an EGM and motions put forward by King et al for the removal of the board and acceptance of funding?

River and Mercantile Asset Management (5. 77%)
Artemis Investment Management (5. 26%)
Blue Pitch Holdings (4. 91%)
Margarita Funds Holding Trust (3. 19%)
Cazenove Capital Management (3. 01%)
FMR LLC (2. 45%)
Legal and General Investment Management (2. 45%)

The above amounts to about 27%. King and allies amounts to around 38%. Ashley and the Sleasdales less than 15%. Which of the above can be 'turned' or their shares snapped up by King and the 3 Bears?

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Bluepitch and margarita are ticketus they want in excess of £1. 25 per share and their proxy is with dinsdale and doug what way the rest will vote is the 6 million dollar question? but if u count al the rest possible voters on bears side they cannot be fat away

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16 Jan 2015 08:46:52
If Ashley gets his hands on Rangers its game over we would be better going into liquidation again

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16 Jan 2015 09:57:12
That egotistical fat tub of lard simply (I say simply)cannot be allowed to further tighten his hold over this once great empire he is a total embarrassment, one look on his twitter pages give you an insight as how he sees, well anyone outwith himself, he calls the NUFC protesters oxygen thieves, his sports direct Mugs are affectionately known as customers, joked about ched Evans (filth)and the downed Malaysian airline, and his foul mouthed and derogatory remarks about N EAST girls beggars belief, the list is endless, hasn't every true Bear suffered enough in recent years from this never ending conveyor belt of sh**sters out to make a quick buck without adding to it with this embarrassment. Good luck RANGERS tonight give it a real go, and good luck fellow BEARS with the protest give the hell, for we are the people.

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Gardner – I totally disagree, the media are quite happy to make Ashley look like the big bad wolf who is stealing the family silver, I don’t buy that
However you feel about him, there is one thing you cannot deny, he is a very very good businessman and rarely fails
The SFA have blocked him (for the good of Scottish football pmsl) but if he could get control he would stop the huge losses and return modest profits back to the club, while putting some real investment in as well. Remember he offered to put 8 million in for 29% through a new share issue
He has loaned us money previously and is now willing to loan us another 10m to keep the club going
Newcastle fans seem unhappy because they will never win the EPL, it takes 100’s of millions to win that and he will not spend that money
We are all entitled to our opinion and I have my own opinion about things, I tend not to be swayed by media hysteria or campaigns
One thing is for sure though, one individual or one group need to take control of the situation now and get us back into a proper functioning club
JG

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16 Jan 2015 10:30:54
If you look at bigger picture he is grabbing all assets on the cheap money is leaking out of ibrox so if alledgedly he is in cahoots with offshore investors money would be siphoned and he would be renting ibrox and facilities plus have retail and own board in place he has total contempt for fans and controls the board already would you buy a car from him I certainly wouldnt

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JG - Get your head out off the sand m8 if Ashley gets the club there will be no club but a nice new Sports Direct Mega Store will appear.

We need to get them all out & I personally would start again if it meant the club had nothing to do with Ashley!

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Jg that's right I definetly want 3bears but if its not possible ashley first and foremost will make us viable and to me that's very important and to do that he has to get us into premier league the biggest danger is the lunatics that that want to protest outside sports direct boycott games etc at this stage the club cannot basically stand it if it comes time for season books and there is no improvement then rangers are finished that's the biggest danger

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16 Jan 2015 13:29:08
call boy cotters lunatics all u want mate all you are doing is burying your head in the sand fans groups are now realizing this needs to happen Newcastle owe Ashley millions in loans making club hard to sell Ashley keeps there tv money and bulk of player sale money is kept by him doesn't car about any of the cups as doesn't care bout being competitive in league as long as they stay clear of relegation and this a man that u think is going to come in and make rangers viable that is deluded

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Caisdyke - I could say the same M8 get your head out of the papers and forums, take a step back and look at the big picture

Are you telling me Ashley only wants the ground that Ibrox sits on

10m is a lot of money for a piece of ground to build a shop on!! and govan is not exactly mayfair or park lane (no offence to govanites)

JG

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What I am still trying to work out is what is Easdale getting out of this, there has to be something underhand going on here. No one in there right mind would sign up to the conditions Ashley imposes unless they are getting something from this, especially as so called life long fan.
He must know that we get next to he haw for TV in this country so the 4 major income streams are
1. Gate Receipts. - These are down because no one want Ashely, so he is by his action endorsing the fall in revenue
2. Retail Sales - We now make the least from Retail out of any club in the country, circa £2k I do believer for 6 month?
3. Advertising - Ashley get to effectively advertise for HE Haw, as such he has endorsed this fire sale.
4. Player sales - Under selling McLoud for half his market value.

So with out the above income streams we will never compete again, as it is this income stream that allow us to punch above our weight in the Scottish game.

Now I could almost accept the above is it was because Ashley bought all the rights up front for there market value, but he has invested next to SFA in us, as it is all Loans. And indeed if anything it is these deals that have led us to where we are,

I ask would be in the current predicament, if, we had the circa £4m p. a. we historically generate from Retail, The Historic Advertising income, and the gate receipts buy people turning up. So in effect the man who deliberately caused the situation stands to benefit greatly. So why on earth would you endorse the man.

So once again I ask are the above actions, that of a man that stands to gain nothing from endorsing Ashley at every turn. Or the actions of a man that stands to gain something?

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16 Jan 2015 08:04:15
If CW is claiming to have anything to do with Ibrox, surely if he brought action against this move it would be forced to be put on hold until it is resolved in the courts.

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I think he has been proven to be a f@@king born liar, I would not believe a single word that came out of his lying cheating stealing mouth

JG

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Your wanting Craig whyte to ride to the rescue again?

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16 Jan 2015 02:10:14
This isn't about ownership of Ibrox, so the whole thread clutching at straws with folk saying "Oh well at least it probably proves Craig Whyte isn't connected with the deeds" are totally missing the point. And for the record the one thing that will prove deeds ownership is the deeds of novation, that might ring a bell, I mentioned it in here about two years ago! As far as I'm aware everyone of the parties involved in the five way agreement should have one, if they don't and to date no one has came forward with one, then Whyte has a shout make no mistakes about that. Now that means Rangers got a license under false pretenses, Whyte was still involved, where that leaves things is anybody's guess. But it still doesn't explain why Ashley would do what he has done.

Effectively for the next 34 days Ashley is the only show in town short of the three bears lawyers stopping him. The documents sent to land register officials means he has the only claim on using those assets as loan collateral. THAT DOESN'T MEAN HE WANTS TO OWN IBROX. What it does mean is he wants to be the only one loaning Rangers money and he has played it brilliantly because with it being common knowledge that the lights will be getting switched off soon without a further cash boost then he can ask for what he wants. It lasts 35 days, Rangers will be more than skint by then. Now that doesn't mean the 3 bears or King can't invest during that time but what else that is Rangers related is going to get them assets collateral worth £6.5m or more. Ian Black? Erm no. Edmiston house? Nope.

So to some extent he has not only monopolised the market but he has also thrown in a gauntlet to the 3 bears and King, would you be prepared to plough in cash without assets as collateral? I think we all know the answer to that. This is a 35 day freeze on who can invest in Rangers bar Ashley, this, if successful, will get his feet under the door even more so and I dare say whatever loans he agrees to, benefit him and him alone, they are in no position to decline plus he seems to have 60% of the board in his corner any way. Owning Ibrox at any stage in the future is literally a shot to nothing for him, this was done to freeze out King and the 3 bears just when Rangers needed cash the most, it has less than nothing to do with him making a move on Ibrox.

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16 Jan 2015 08:21:56
Well the three bears have offered to in crease there investment without securities according to reports.
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R. f - why according to reports? - why don't they just make a statement of intent and avoid any doubt or rumours?

A lot of people demanded King before all others, well he arrived a few weeks ago, albeit with a very well timed? purchase of shares, so can he now tell us what he intends to do

JG

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Good. That proves they are genuine, which isn't a surprise, and was the only way they could get back into the loop. They still have to convince a board, who most likely have an agenda.

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R. f the three bears seemingly want Murray Park as their security, if this becomes a bidding war Ashley will win. 1) His secured asset is worth more than theirs. 2) He has deeper pockets. 3) He seemingly has the board on his side and for all the claims and counter claims both sides can make, come their end decision, all they need to do to justify it is say "We thought it was in the best interests of the club. " and given we are talking about them choosing a successful billionaire it would be hard to dispute.

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16 Jan 2015 12:26:38
They have made the statement its on all media sources. @ gaz the Murray park as security was with the 5mil offer now with ashley tying Ibrox & Murray park up with the 35 day thing T3B have matched his offer without securities been given.
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R. f -

yes I have seen some media "reports" but I have not seen a statement from King being issued anywhere

I may have missed it, can you copy and paste his statement on here for us

JG

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