Rangers Banter Archive July 16 2014

16 Jul 2014 22:54:26
I know I have been criticised on here for having a vivid imagination at times, but is it me, or do we appear to incur more petty injuries than other clubs? maybe something in our fitness/training methods? I don't know, but we seem to lose players frequently for a few weeks at a time, and sometimes it seems we lose a few at a time. Just thinking out loud.

17 Jul 2014 09:24:03
You are probably right, wee bill. There were 'rumours' last year that the training at Murray Park under AM is 'light' and such would tie in with your own observation.

You may have a point about the training here is an extract from the East Kilbride news about Steven Chatterton who left the Gers for EK thistle at the end of the last season

“after joining up with the Showpark side for their pre-season training last week, he reckons his days at Murray Park with Rangers were a walk in the park compared to the high intensity workouts delivered by Jags boss Alan Wardlaw”

StEDDy - I remember Jock Wallace and the Gullane sand dunes. BY jings we WERE fit back then and had very few injuries as far as I remember.

17 Jul 2014 16:52:10
That's it exactly, wee bill. Being actually fit saves the players from these stupid wee strain injuries. At the moment they seem to have been slightly fitter than their part time opponents have been but that, I believe, is just down to being full time. I don't think the current crop would last a day at Gullane.

On a not unrelated point, Miller and Boyd have kept themselves relatively fit over the years but we might have to worry about them maintaining that at MP. Miller's already picked up a groin strain apparently.

Wee bill now they only go to the sand dunes if there's a party going on lol

This the same Kenny miller, who's never had an injury before?

Wee bill that's been hapening at rangers for as long as I remember signed then injured in training

16 Jul 2014 21:25:36
Hi Ed.
Can you tell me if Stuart Collie is still one of the physios at the club.

{Ed039's Note - yes along with Steve Walker and a support staff of part time medical/physios)

16 Jul 2014 20:06:05
Ed could you please put this poll out there to all rangers fans, I've always rated paul gascoigne as the greatest midfielder to have ever played in a rangers shirt, would you put this in a poll to gauge what all other 'gers fans think to who is regarded the best midfielder to have ever played with us, cheers ed!

{Ed039's Note - Done Gaz)

Gazza defo for class and skill and eye for goal, but I rate Barry ferguson up there as well as being number 1 when it comes to everything to do with rangers! Total legend, what a player he was as well, he would've died for rangers, so in that sense, am going with Barry, but gazza in his day was a better player! 2 legends

Baxter

Gazza8 got to agree on the durrant midfielder point in fact graham souness built his rangers team round about durrant

Find it unbelievable that anyone can possibly in any way even in the slightest make comparisons between an unbelievable talent like Gazza and a slightly above average midfielder,

Trevor stevens baxter van bronchorst b ferguson I rate themm all better than gazza at times he played great but did not perform in europe even steven davis is comparable probably tie between baxter and stevens

Everyone mentioned were great players but Ian Durrant was a match for any of them and given the chance, I believe, would have been, by far, the best.
I was in the main stand, at Pittodrie, when simpson's assault took place. It wasn't a tackle, it was gbh and should have been dealt with accordingly.

17 Jul 2014 16:03:33
agreed billyb wee durranty was a class act- just floated over the ground effortlessly. Probably the best timer of an attacking run into the opposition box I ever saw. Remember the run from the superb Davie Cooper back heel into the Celtic box to poke away another win at Ibrox? A wee bit like another classy midfielder Bobby Russell remember is away goal in a 2-3 win at Twente Enscede? (Well some Dutch team anyway who were big cheeses at the time)
From memory of that fateful game at Pittodrie it was Neil Cooper who fouled Simpson. Simpson turned round -straight leg studs out but found wee Durranty's leg and not Coopers. No harm to big Neil but young Ian was a far bigger loss to both the Gers and Scotland. It also pretty much finished Simpson's career at the top level- huge tragedy for a few seconds of complete indiscipline from the two Aberdeen legends.

Nbear you say it more or less finished simpsons carrer but it was a liberty durrant came back well sort of came back but seeing him up until that incident I wonder how far ian would have went in football it was tragic eh simpson should have been sin died for such a blatent assault against a totally innocent victim it brought a tear to my eyes reading [a managers diary ] graham souness

17 Jul 2014 22:59:36
NBear

That tackle by Simpson was an absolute disgrace and was deliberate. I don't know how anyone can feel any sympathy for him. I was at the match and the thing that actually sticks in my mind was Durrant getting a piggy back off the pitch. Not sure that was the right way to take him off and don't think it would have helped with the injury

Nbear, that Cooper[ Davie. ] back-heel is fixed in my memory and cool as you like Durranty stuck it in the net.
Big Neil was a recent signing for us and noised up every Aberdeen player from the start. From memory I think it was him that got our goal. Your right, Nbear, he was probably was the target but that assault ruined the potential of the best talent we have ever produced.

Lw you seem to be the only one that thinks durrant was a slightly above average midfielder eh ime pointing this out to you in your responce to my mentioning durrant and was wondering what age you are

16 Jul 2014 18:08:18
govan stand to be renamed the sandy jardine stand to be opened by his shona and family at opening league game v hearts sandys office was in the govan stand a class act by the rangers family to a true ranger

16 Jul 2014 19:14:51
Nice touch renaming the govan stand after sandy jardine :)

Now i'm thinking this. Could the club not have put our friendly games on rangers tv for all the fans who have supported them through thin and thin the chance to assess things for ourselves, also I know we don't have a scouting system but after templeton getting injured at annan could someone not have made sure the teams we were going to play at least had grass pitches. Ahh the pain never stops with this bunch. Terrible management.

16 Jul 2014 20:53:46
Nice touch.

Hope one day we get Murray Park renamed too to honor David Cooper.

@2 That is a good shout and wee Davie should be honoured like that - a fitting tribute if it is ever used the way it was intended- to produce our own talented and skillful youth.

Currently sadly it is more Tommy Cooper

16 Jul 2014 17:25:42
I see Rangers web page confirmed that McCoist says Scott Gallacher has left the club. Ah well, another one bites the dust!! One thing we have always been good at!! ditching promising players and retaining doughballs!!

Thanks for sticking by us Scott when others left, good luck wherever you go! Maybe if we gad another manager it would gave worked out!

16 Jul 2014 21:12:52
Great Longterm planning by the master tactician that is Ally McCoist. Ditch a promising keeper and sign a 39 year old has been.

Ditch mccoist not the young players

Thats why I think mccoist is bullet proof from the board mccoist knows something regarding the board that's why they won't sack him or move him upstairs

A heard there's a host of top English and European teams competing for gallachers signature 😊

Hearts are apparently looking at him. Well done McCoist another to come back and haunt us Alexander, Gallacher, Hemmings and am sure Loy is at falkirk.

16 Jul 2014 15:39:41
Think McCoist should concentrate on his job instead of running his mouth off to the press saying Murray due an apology. I think we are due an apology from McCoist for the symbolical performances we have witnessed October 2011.

Correct edmundo

Think mccoist should clean him self up, get a shave & lose a bit of weight lol.

McCoist should maybe apologies to the fans for taking such a big salary in return for some dire football.

Mcc the knife I was just saying that to my missus I think ally being our manager he should always look smart I know he has reason to bee seen in trackies but with his wages ime sure he could afford an electric shaver lol I never seen any other rangers manager with a stubble like coisties

16 Jul 2014 13:45:24
we now have confirmation macoist is a lunatic turning down money for moshni I would have piped him out of the door

16 Jul 2014 17:20:49
Mccoist doesn't recieve bids from other teams I'm afraid pal

Obviously old pal but he does have the say whether to take or not

Wull - I see big billy is getting pelters even before the season starts,
he is far from the worst player in our current squad, did you see the goal faure gave away last night?

but it seems to be a habit of the bears to single out one player and give him abuse for the season

Lets judge from the 5th august onwards

JG

Totally agree with you jg, I wish some of these so called rangers supporters would get off big mohsni's back, if he cuts out the showboating & just concentrate on his defending then there's most definitely a very decent centre half in there, he's so commanding in the air, he can bring the ball out of defence, can pass the ball & he's very strong, a concentrated big billy will do for me, I hope we keep him

16 Jul 2014 11:24:30
I see we got a doing last night in California. I don't read to much into friendlies but seemingly ally played 5-4-1. with our striking options I think this formation is criminal. also I noticed big jig playing in the midfield. the big guys commitment to the club will never be forgotten but I hope ally is not finding a place for him in the middle of midfield.

16 Jul 2014 13:41:05
Ah there ye go Bigcol and youz other yins that were slagging off Ally for lack of tactics. Tactic snacktics- see what happens when we try tactics and stop lumping the ball up the park?
Youz should aw hang yir heids in shame

It's looking ominous. I think we'll see the same players McCoist has been loyal to keeping a spot somewhere.

I read the pitch was in poor condition. I'd expect us to beat a 4th tier US team on a California beach.

Compared to the continuing corporate debacle, anything on-park has to be kept in perspective. But I watched the California friendly on RTV catch-up with mounting horror and disbelief. The line-up against 4th tier US amateurs (4-5-1 and a deranged diamond formation) was eloquent testament and warning on what's ahead if the club is not cleansed from the ground up and the appalling "coaching" team not replaced by proper, modern coaches. OK, it was a bounce game on a poor surface, but our incompetence reached new depths. Compared to the fast, tactically aware young Americans, Gers ran around like veritable headless chickens with nobody seeming to know what role they were supposed to play. It is manifestly clear that The Three Stooges don't have the remotest clue among them how to set up a winning team, spot a player or enhance a talent. It really doesn't matter much whom we buy, new additions will join our youngsters in being de-coached into bad players. Graham Wallace should - but of course won't - have the courage to dispatch this hapless triumvirate bag and baggage. Otherwise, last night's embarrassment will be replicated when it matters in League and Cup, a surely as night follows day.

Senior London Bear

Nbear his formation is a negative formation and I'll tell you why. if we had Philip Lahm and Patrice evra playing with us at fullback then yes this would be seen as an attacking formation. however we have Richie foster. wallace granted is in my eyes good going forward but we need similar on the right. i'm afraid because of the players we have this is a containing defensive formation designed to not get beaten or conceed goals. against 4th tier American opposition btw.
Tactical lesson over.

16 Jul 2014 15:53:44
Nbear so your saying keep playing long ball? as ally hasn't the tactical nous to change? this doesn't make sense your actually sticking up for ally cause we all know his limitations so should accept it? am I reading this right? reality check he's way out his depth! clueless

It was a back 3 he played

16 Jul 2014 16:57:07
aldair my tongue was very firmly in my cheek I was being sarcastic. Seems to have been lost on Bigcol and others which is why I prefer it when his dog posts- that is also said with a bit of levity in case anyone else takes offence.
I read the report on the game from the Ibrox Noise site and thought oops Ally is trying tactics.
I was joking chaps!

Nbear ye know I love ye tae bits but we all can't be wrong. ally is and never will be a manager. this is not anti ally, ally bashing or anything else it is a simple fact. not because it's our first friendly but because we have been watching this dross for the last 2 years. sorry mate get yer blinkers aff. xx

Haha just read your post again. hook line and sinker I think!

16 Jul 2014 17:40:42
Bigcol - I thought the snacktics would have given it away but definitely advocating the big lump up the park lol

16 Jul 2014 19:02:10
@kfraser

You will find the game on YouTube if you search for 'Ventura County Fusion v Rangers', then you can see for yourself. The markings on the pitch are appalling; you can barely see the football lines. However, the state of the pitch would be a poor excuse as they were exactly the same for the American team. That would be like blaming the wind.

A know what a diddy. I really should know your patter by now. lol

@6 aye a back three with another two full backs, that's 5 mate

JG

16 Jul 2014 21:44:23
Now come come don't be so hard on yourself mate! Naw your right the first time whit a diddy lol- only kidding!

Bigcol and aldair c'mon guys hook line and sinker lol well in nbear

16 Jul 2014 07:41:31
3-1 defeat in the first game of North American tour. Same old 5 4 1 formation from Ally. Give us a break! It's going to be another LONG season!