Rangers Banter Archive June 16 2015

16 Jun 2015 22:05:21
Guy's, what the consensus on big KYLE LAFFERTY coming back?
Forgive and forget or NEVER, NEVER, NEVER?

17 Jun 2015 00:11:37
Waste of space too much hassle and not as good a player as he thinks he is and of course he was quick enough to bail out

17 Jun 2015 08:44:27
I heard they need an extra groundsman.or maybe someone to clean the lavies.thats about all the big diddy is good for!

17 Jun 2015 10:56:30
Literally there's none of the boys who left who I'd immediately say no too. If they are good enough I'd forgive them, after alllook how good Naisy is now, would that have happened if he stayed with us? No.

17 Jun 2015 12:37:05
Spoc

Davie Weir poached Naismith for Everton when he may have stayed a bit longer but I agree we never seem to improve players but I think a couple could come back S Davis maybe, a goalie -ANY goalie

16 Jun 2015 19:36:17
Is there any truth in the Cifcti rumours? All I've seen is that Gough said he would be a good signing?

16 Jun 2015 13:46:34
A lot of discussions going on about who we are linked with and who we would want to sign but has anyone had a think about what Mark Warburton & Davie Weir can do for the players who remain under contract?

I was reading an interesting article about what they done with Andre Gray, a player at Brentford that was bought from Luton. The boy was struggling with confidence, form, motivation and life in genral and they took him from being at breaking point and giving up on the game to scoring 16 goals last season and being tipped for a move to an English Premiership club.

After reading the article I'm thinking about what Mark Warburton & Davie Weir can do for some of the players that remain at the club such as Nicky Clark, Nicky Law, David Templeton, Dean Shiels and even Lee Wallace. We all know they are decent enough players but all of them have struggled for form due to various factors over the last couple of seasons but with the management skills that Mark Warburton & Davie Weir have at their disposal I'm confident that a number of players will be rejuvenated and will feel like new signings and play to the calibre we know they can and even exceed potential further.

Also, the younger players must now be chapping at the bit as Mark Warburton's views on youth development has been well publicised as of late. Surely this will have a few of our young guns upping their game and trying to impress when their pre-season starts up in a couple weeks as they know now that if they are good enough and have the potential then there is ever chance they could break in to the first team and have Mark Warburton & Davie Weir oversee their development.

16 Jun 2015 14:58:32
I am sure that Warburton is happy if the worse come to pass and he doesn't get the results he needs at Rangers , he can link up again with the acadamie at Lennoxtown . Apparently he was very impressed when he was involved with Celtic and the New Generation .

16 Jun 2015 15:29:35
Good post blue table these guys have went backwards since joining us be good to see what a decent manager will be able to get out of them as you said they were decent players when we signed them

16 Jun 2015 15:27:13
He may have be impressed with the products of Lennoxtown however it is well regarded that Murray Park is a far superior complex. The only problem with Murray Park is that it has never been utilised properly since it was build only producing a handful of decent players. Mark Warburton has the knowledge, skills and that the contacts (through his NewGen programme that he Co-Founded) to ensure Murray Park starts producing the types of young player it was built to do.

16 Jun 2015 15:51:19
I'm sure he was Christopher. Lennoxtown looks like a quality and reasonably run facility. When it comes to producing quality youngsters with nice sell on value however. We are both lagging behind . Similarly, until Ronny D came in, many of your players were also a little porky around the edges, so my point is. in fact what's the point. Your little mind cannot process the ability to comprehend.
Don't think too you might burst a blood vessel.

16 Jun 2015 16:40:09
Nippon with sentences as incoherent as that fiasco you served up I wouldn't be castigating anyone's mind. :)

16 Jun 2015 16:46:18
Well done Gaz, not seen any of your gibberish in a while.
In saying that at least you can spell unlike the other trollers.

16 Jun 2015 16:59:50
You're just being a cheeky little monkey Gaz.

16 Jun 2015 17:22:30
lennoxtown was built on the cheap as was parkheid jist the sae as players theyv buy look oout here come the bears we are back on the case kato

16 Jun 2015 17:35:46
Nipponbear. , you may call me small minded and you may pour scorn at Celtic, but remember your Rangers last two games resulted in a 6-1 aggregate defeat to second bottom SPL team Motherwell. Since that a dozen permanent and four or five loan players have moved away from Ibrox leaving the Rangers team considerably weaker now than then.

16 Jun 2015 17:50:06
Chris, I'm perfectly aware of the situation rangers are in.
'pour scorn at Celtic' where on earth do you come up with this? I have just complemented Lennoxtown and your managers approach to fitness haha you are a helmet!

16 Jun 2015 17:51:04
Aye mate built on the cheap with cheap players! Who are going for 5 in a row and who rolled over the top of use in 1st gear a couple a months ago! Aye the Bears are back but! Back in the scottish championship!

16 Jun 2015 17:53:17
U r small minded Chris and argumentative u come on tryin to get a rise of folk which is fine it's a banter site after all but on your own site u constantly shoot down all yer fellow supporters posts your opinion seems to be different from everyone!and it seems you tend to be wrong guys go have a look he's on there saying how good efe ambrose is 😂😂😂safe to say nobody agrees

16 Jun 2015 18:06:48
Chris2002 I sincerely apologise , I just realised you are 13 years old. It is just banter after all. Have a nice summer holiday:)

16 Jun 2015 19:26:34
13 I thought he was about 63 with the bitterness he comes out with

16 Jun 2015 19:27:54
Gibberish, haha, truth be told Nippon a good number of you spout the same blind crap every day so I had to remind myself which one you were, the buckie and tabloid one, that's right. Not only can I spell Nippon I can formulate a sentence, trust me your efforts fall well short on occasion.

But I'll pose a question since I'm here if you care to answer and perhaps enlighten my "gibberish". 53.64% of the vote v Ashley of all people, a ringing endorsement or is King already suffering from some disgruntled bears?

16 Jun 2015 21:14:46
Woah, hold on a second. Did someone just accuse a celtic fan of posting on their own site. Miracles do happen! We might be in with a chance of signing Rahee, Sterling.

16 Jun 2015 23:39:46
How cute Gaz! Anyway for myself who falls short grammatically, I seem to have done pretty well for myself at a reasonably young age - so I won't worry about that too much.
Yes I think there may be some disgruntled fans , but again nothing to get your knickers in a twist about. You are not going to keep everyone happy. I'm certainly not going to lose any sleep over it.
Seems you took that 'Buckie and Tabloid' slur to heart haha I will change it to sloe gin if that makes you feel better.
Spouting your normal pompous gibberish Gaz , articulate maybe , however your posts are still idiotic echoes. Take it easy

17 Jun 2015 00:18:24
Just my thoughts on the 53.64% issue gaz. The %ages of both supporters trusts representing shareholders confirmed that they overwhelmingly voted in favour of not paying it back (over 80% against in both from distant memory)straight away. However, they/we, proportionately own a smaller stake overall in the club than mash for example so have little effect on the overall vote. It suggests to me that the other main stakeholders voted for paying it back and the majority of supporters, 3 bears and king voted against it.
I have a few questions of my own on this though, admittedly mainly through personal ignorance of how these things work lol. Were all the votes cast or just a certain %age of the total shareholders? If a nominal vote then the figures aren't really an accurate reflection. Since it's been a contentious issue I expected it to be close anyway, even my brother and I disagree on whether it should be paid back now or later and we tend to agree on most things rangers related.
I found the second voting figure far more interesting tbh. The 11% increase in terms of those in favour of renegotiating the contracts would suggest to me at least one major investor agreed with paying back the 5mill but also agreed the contracts were weighted too heavily in favour of sd and wanted them changed. That would back your initial suggestion King isn't universally trusted by those who voted him in, and rightly so. It's a democracy not a dictatorship. However, the biggest worrying factor for me and who I'd like to be identified/bought out are the 36% that voted against restructuring the aforementioned contracts. If mash only holds 9% then clearly another 27% support or are controlled by ashley and clearly do not have the clubs best interests at heart. Even the greenest blinkered amongst our visiting friends would not expect 36% of their own shareholders to support a 7 year rolling contract that would withhold huge sums of money from their club/investment longterm unless they were personally benefitting financially or otherwise via some other means.

As usual there seems more questions than answers and it's infuriating to me just as it has been since all this started lol. Can't wait until all we talk about again is the football, the rest of it just gives me a headache ;-)

17 Jun 2015 00:47:17
Gaz1 not claiming a ringing endorsement for Mr King but the 53% is 53% of 100% but only 78% voted so more like 68% behind the board. 22% we don't know about but the 32% with Ashley not a surprise as Ashley owns 9% which is 11.54% of 78% and adding the Easdales, Blue Pitch etc a small but significant block were never going to support the board.
Personally if the board could have afforded to buy out Ashley they should have as he is not going to make any positive contributions whatsover from now on. The slightly worrying thing for bears is that we are still badly geared and underfunded.

17 Jun 2015 00:49:18
As of last week the procrastination in appointing a new manager no doubt disgruntled a few. The vote was cast on Friday before the Warburton announcement . Anyways I am certainly not going to lose any sleep over it , neither should you Gaz.
I will also not get my nickers in a twist with any English errors I may type. For someone at my reasonably young age I feel more than happy with what I have achieved ,regardless of my grammar . Your pompous gibberish may be articulate, but you don't offer any real insight nor do the questions you ask . Just long winded echoes. As long as your happy Gaz .

17 Jun 2015 12:08:37
Speaking of echoes Nippon did you need to post that twice? You sound a bit needy and insecure with that, I think my pseudo intellectual line or whatever it was may have stung but cheers for the gin, Jimmy in Quadrophenia got me in to that many moons ago.

True enough Spart7. I have to say I was surprised both were as close but cheers Mannering that was good math lol. Indeed those big blocks of votes carry more weight in a vote at 78% but as you both allude to clearly some bigger institutional investors don't fancy King too.

Nippon good luck to you and your achievements pending age etc but my point was you can't go about saying folk don't have a mind when your own "attack" is littered with flaws, that was all.

17 Jun 2015 12:41:24
Yes computer was playing funny buggers when I posted the first. I didn't think it posted oops!

17 Jun 2015 13:08:09
I would concede the grammar was clumsy but but if only 78% of those entitled to vote did so then the board had 68% of the electorate who turned out. Ashley's 9% shareholding in a 78% turnout is in effect 11.54% of the vote.

Not sure where the problem is in any of that but hey nobody's going to loose any sleep over it.

The problems at Ibrox are huge of that there is no doubt but if the fans can see a better brand of football it will be a good starter for 2 (10 is too optimistic- not another error of math or arithmetic)

17 Jun 2015 13:44:26
Lol your stats were fine Mannering and show in sharp focus the strength the non King faction still has on some issues.

No worries Nippon, typing that out twice in two minutes, your WPM ain't too shabby at all. :)

15 Jun 2015 22:26:18
Would be over the moon if the papers are correct and we can tie up Danny Wilson mcleod on loan and Scott allan would be some start to warburtons reign

16 Jun 2015 09:41:33
I agree that these three signings would be a great start but every good team needs a strong spine: a goalkeeper, centre half, classy midfielder and an out and out goalscorer. I'm not sure who might fill these vacancies. Any ideas? Are Wilson and McLeod experienced enough?

16 Jun 2015 10:03:14
The team we had were experienced doesn't mean anything.

16 Jun 2015 10:35:26
The 5 players I would welcome on a purchase or loan basis would be Allan, Cifti, McLeod, Vuckic and Wilson. Outwith them we could do with, if cash is available, a right back, another centre back, a midfielder and nippy striker.

16 Jun 2015 10:51:02
I've heard is said on this site that Wilson is a Celtic fan, not that that makes a difference, but if they come calling when the dutchman moves on, I'm thinking he would jump at a move to them. Although if that does happen I'm sure we'll pick up somebody at least as good. McLeod is a good player but I would be cautious on the injury. I wouldn't want to see us swap treatment tables with Brentford. Allan would be a great signing. I suppose it depends on how much Hibs need the money. We could call their bluff and threaten to wait until his deal is up and take him for nothing. The good thing is he supports the club. That always helps. I've seen one or two posts re John Sutton but he has signed for St Johnstone and, in any case, I don't think he would have been good for us. And he's over 30. Josh Meekings I do like along with the boy Cummings at Hibs.

16 Jun 2015 10:59:47
Danny Wilson and Darren mcgregor at centre backs is a strong partnership. Wilson was good for us as a teenager in the prem just made a foolish mistake going to Liverpool too soon so being reunited with weir I hope Wilson will be the strong defender we need

16 Jun 2015 15:08:48
Where o where is the money coming from . Warburton says he asked questions about transfer war chest . He didn't put a figure on it but said he was reassured .
I wonder if many of the Rangers fans would believe anything that came from Dave King who it is said has lied before.
It is difficult to see where the money will come from . I cannot see the season ticket money lasting a year , other sources of income are hard to find .

16 Jun 2015 15:16:25
Noddy I'm not sure that the press reports of who players support makes a huge difference as to who they sign for. Kenny Dalgleish and his father were big gers fans but went on to be one of the Celtic's greats. Wee Ross McCormack was reported to be a Celtic fan but did okay for us before improving with teams in England. I have read a number of times that Anya is meant to be a bear but that won't stop him signing for Selik?
I don't know if Wilson is a bear or otherwise or if he is the answer to our defensive frailties but what team he supported as a young un - before he became a professional might not have a huge bearing on where he ends up.

16 Jun 2015 16:36:35
Fair point Mannering. I was just wondering that if Celtic also want Wilson then it would be logical he would go there. The players you mentioned ie Dalglish and McCormack, would no doubt have signed for the clubs they supported - had the clubs wanted them at the time. To be honest I wouldn't go overboard on Wilson. I'd be reasonably happy to see him at Ibrox. Yes, he's a decent player, but not great, in my opinion.

16 Jun 2015 17:46:23
Noddy I would be quite happy for Danny Wilson playing for Rangers next season.