Rangers Banter Archive March 16 2012

 

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16 Mar 2012 22:34:43
this nonsense about buyers only interested in a liquidated rangers ....a liquidated rangers are worth nothing zilch natta....our history of 140 years is what is worth money alone.....no history ...no worth.....not if but when the not guilty verdict comes out with hmrc then somewhere in the region of 40 mill or less would be a steal in todays modern game ...specially as i said with our remarkable and untouched history.......good times comin soon bears...deecee

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And if the contracts issue is proven - history won't be untouched than but tarnished. Fact. History is worth nothing to an investor if that happens.

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Your history is worthless or you wouldent be in truble,the only way your sucsess can generate money you get all offending ebt plauers to melt down their tainte medals for scrap,if you even knew facts would tell you all bids subject to cva no cva no takeover liquadation history or no,pure class post tho manchester non tax payments unpaid debts crooks villians n thiefs now begging of fans,history,priceleds,
If you was celtic your history makes the heart go woo o oo,
Not we owe owe owe,

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In cold hard cash terms history takes a back seat.Seems that the bidders so far are trying to wait out the tax case result.Meanwhile the running costs keep running,and limited income will hit home soon.

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Ha ha ya trout thats the point zilch means they spend what THEY WUNT no creditors,numpty

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Come on now your got your point across dint let the the drink get the better of you...b

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My head hurts.

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Liquidation is not an acceptable option. We'll take our lumps if found guilty but giving up 140yrs of history is a sell out to everything our club stands for. Patience Bears. Don't let the dhims sway ya

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If , WHEN yous are found guilty , your "Nothing to be proud about" history will be permanently tarnished and tainted if not wiped from the history books for ever , your close affiliation with the SFA is about to be your undoing , the cheating and corruption will be exposed shortly , and our "Paranoia" will dissapear , thank you Mr Whyte and Mr Adams , Scottish football's sporting integrity is at stake , and that is more important than 140 years of bias and cheating .

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16 Mar 2012 22:01:59
I think it's a certainty that HMRC will agree a CVA, they don't want to bury us, or do they? But they to will have conditions, and the first will be that whytes nowhere to be seen, (except in bar-L hopefully) so it will be interesting to see how that goes, what you think ed mate? No deal while whytes about ya reckon? An the big verdict must be less than a fortnight away by now...
PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - I expect a CVA to be reached, with there being parties interested in buying the club, it makes sense to get as much as you can out of them, rather than the likely less than penny in the pound liquidation would bring. Ibrox and Murray Park are only worth money when they have a football club attached, otherwise there is little value to them. So selling them would not pay much towards the creditors.}

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If creditors can drag cva out till april they will get it all anyway as to new rules so wouldent coubt your chickens on that,

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Dont you think the bidders would prefer liquidating? Much less outlay than taking on the debt {Ed001's Note - no, because then they have nothing but a name. Liquidation would mean the sale of every asset the club owns, so what would be the point?}

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Sorry to be stupid but what is a CVA? {Ed001's Note - try this link: http://www.companyrescue.co.uk/company-rescue/options/company-voluntary-arrangement probably better than me trying to explain.}

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Thanks Ed {Ed001's Note - you're welcome.}

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Edd you say a new owner would have nothing but a name if rangers were to go into liquidation a name and how many 100000s of fans to pay to watch a newco. the fans themselfs must be worth mega millions {Ed001's Note - no, because you would lose a vast number of those fans. There is no knowing what effect it would have, so shelling out millions, then more millions for a stadium, because the stadium would have to be bought as well, would be a huge risk.}

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16 Mar 2012 21:37:47
In auctions of complex and valuable assets and in some procurement auctions, a two stage procedure is commonly used. In the first stage, bidders make non-binding "indicative bids" that are used to separate serious candidates. Then, after an information gathering stage, serious bids are made. Jmc20

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16 Mar 2012 21:10:30
3 bids, all conditional. Conditions most likely being along the lines of a CVA being agreed and waiting on the verdict of the tax case.

Looks like all these bidders are saying all the right things but actually waiting to pick up a Newco.

The Blue Knights already have their excuse why the couldn't save the club lined up: Not enough fans wanted to be involved (setting the price so high to be involved looks like a PR stunt when you consider 50,000 fans donating £100 would land them 5 million, not to be sniffed at when you are flat broke).

Bad times ahead.

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American consortium interested in buying rangers are to run a one off competition to raise funds. the final to be held at an NFL stadium. to be called the begging bowl.

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Wonder what team he/she supports.

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16 Mar 2012 20:30:20
Finaly penny dropping as us tims tell u all along people of business mind are only intrested after u liquadate as no 1 has money to burn,
I wouldent get to disheartwnd as after the club will b financially sound,b back minus history then get all this behind you,move on & make more,all i would say is maybe instead of being defensive when people trying tell you things,people only say what they see,

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Maybe next time you should read back your post before hitting the send button. As most of it makes no sense.

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Makes total sense to me, your problem is you don't want to believe it , so i suggest you drag your head out the sand and face up to reality. The only way Rangers are going is liquidation........Stevie

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16 Mar 2012 20:20:04
If OCTOPUS are indeed involved in funding the Rangers takeover by Blue Knights
Ronald Clancy QC for firm, which is part of the Octopus Investments group, told the court: "Ticketus are part of a large specialist fund management business and they have immediate access to large amounts of cash, more than sufficient to fund an investment in the club."
I think we should thank all the Celtic fans for using their prepayment cards as a small amount of every transaction goes to the patent holder for these cards and we are truly grateful for all donations no matter how small they all add up

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16 Mar 2012 20:12:41
Is Alastair Johnston not based in Chicago? Wonder if there is any link?

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Think these guys have been sniffing around brittish football for a while - think theyve spotted an opportunity.

ryanrfc

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An opportunity for what ? to lash out millions on somebody elses debts ? investors invest to make a profit. so how do you make a profit from that mess ? rangers' income is less than celtic's. that's what the problem is. they had to run at a massive loss to gain the 'success' during the murray years. wakey wakey.

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To the above poster, you don't get it! part of being in business is to spend money to make money, simples your not goin to get anywhere by doing feck all jeez oh btw, doesn't matter if its to debts or not you stiol have to run a business, if its bad or not., steeeeve

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2 posts facts yet people disagree. More delusion - it must be contagious.

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Alistair johnson was in chicago!!! who was he?

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16 Mar 2012 19:25:08
Get the feeling with most not putting any binding bids in.Some of these company's may only be interested if we go into liquidation

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16 Mar 2012 19:09:33
Hi Ed when realistically,would you expect a new owner/ owners to be in place and do you think that bidders who have made a move already are hoping for liquidation? Also is the door closed now for other bidders to,come in? {Ed001's Note - the door will not be closed for new bidders until the final stages of a deal being done. Any buyers coming in now will not be wanting liquidation, if that was the case they would just wait for it to happen. As for timing, that is very difficult to say, they haven't even begun due diligence and even that is a variable amount of time. When Liverpool were sold to Gillett and Hicks, they nipped in while DIC were in the midst of due diligence, they had time to agree a deal, do due diligence and complete the takeover before DIC could complete the diligence alone. It could be days, weeks or months.}

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16 Mar 2012 18:51:25
So now the administrators are stressing some of the bids are not binding..Fecks sake . {Ed001's Note - bids this early in the process are never binding, they are initial bids, final bids would only be placed after the bidders have had the chance to do due diligence.}

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16 Mar 2012 18:25:41
Ed maybe you can answer this every1 is going on about cw still owning 85% of shares this is fact & he still has a big say, well I remember the liverpool situation where a judge in the high court in london forced through a sale 2 get gillet & hicks out & they took a loss could this happen in scotland because I think this is what duff & phelps are trying
NTYABOW {Ed001's Note - what happened there was that the board was made up of 5 executive members, each with a vote. So Gillett and Hicks could, and were, outvoted when it came to deciding on whether or not to accept the bid from what was NESV. I am not sure of the make up of Rangers' board, it must contain at least two members with a vote, but Whyte, as majority shareholder, would have the casting vote. So it might be a little more difficult to oust him, hence the court action by D&P.}

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16 Mar 2012 18:07:56
Why did none f these bid for rangers before Mr tight took over?

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Paul murray did mate bud failed. tbh i think lloyds had a major factor in the decision to sell us to cw as he confirmed the debt owed to.lloyds would be cleared straight away, paul murray wanted to continue paying lloyds debt off in installments. brian kennedy has bid to save the club from going out of business, i applaud the guy. hes a hibs man but willing to save rangers if need be. dont know too much about this bid from the states. my preferred option would bt the blue knights....all rangers men n from what a hear of paul in the interviews hes given hes came across well. could see bain brought back n hopefully walter in some capacity. bain was excellent for us, just look at how many stories were leaked during the summer n how many targets we missed out on.....never happened when bain dealt with these things. walters a no brainer for some position on a new board.....onwards n upwards!!!
j1985

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16 Mar 2012 17:20:32
Sorry to see that referee Steve Conroy has decided to quit,shame ,as i thought he was a decent ref,good with the players,honest bloke,SFA hung him out to dry over the Sone Aluko penalty earlier in the season,Scottish football falling apart.

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Agreed heard its something to do with feelings of being hung out to dry by regan lawell and other high up well, placed celtic people within the spl sfl and sfa. coincidence that lawell and other celtic directors placed on sfa, spl and sfl boards just after regan, who has connections to previous celtic board member dr reid,was appointed to sfa? I also see lennon on demanding respect on tv the day- is this the same guy that showed no respect to anyone last season blaming anyone and everyone for celtics lack of results and also started to do the same earlier this season when going 9 points behind saying spl were being biased against celtic due to Rangers getting early kick off times, until it was pointed out to him sky and espn decide on who plays in early games not spl? he has no morals or decency but demands it from others,what a joke.

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A rangers fan goin on about respect and morals yeh right,garlar07

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The post was about Steve Conroy quitting but hey to hell with that , let's have another hate filled rant about Neil Lennon . Can't you just reply without having to bring NL into everything , get a life FFS .....DH

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Aye this is the same guy that got rid of mr Dougie mc Donald for lying, this is the guy that got a bomb and bullets send to him in the post from so call rangers fan. If fat Sally was only half the man Lenny is. Fat ally dose know what pressure is because he had Walter I didnt know anything Smith wiping is ass. Give it a rest a**hole. Bigirishmac

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" I also see lennon on demanding respect on tv the day- is this the same guy that showed no respect to anyone last season blaming anyone and everyone for celtics lack of results and also started to do the same earlier this season when going 9 points behind saying spl were being biased against celtic due to Rangers getting early kick off times, until it was pointed out to him sky and espn decide on who plays in early games not spl? he has no morals or decency but demands it from others,what a joke."

Please explain which part of the above statement is a 'hate filled rant'.

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Tims,its got sod all to do with Ceptic,a decent referee has decided to quit, f all to do with your team,manager or your fans,so just do one eh

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None of it's to do with the original post. Any excuse to vent your spleen.

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@6: the OP - a Rangers fan presumably - brought Celtic into it, not Celtic fans. Read all the posts before you tell anyone to 'do one'.

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Another ref quits cos the sfa are too weak to step up to our biased anti gers media sfa want to stand up n stop being influenced by outside bodies . we all know who they are

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'biased anti gers media'?! Succulent lamb, anyone? Do you know what you're talking about? Give us all examples of this bias?

Go on, we're waiting...

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Do you know how childish that ceptic (sic) thing is ? par for the course i guess for people who like calling themselves after a childs soft toy.

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At 3.) and 7.) and fatirishgirl its true that saying a wee bit of knowledge is dangerous for yous have learned to read but not understand what you are reading. 1.)I basically replied that ref had quit due to celtic pressure from within the sfa spl and sfl ie questioning their every decision and leaving them in a position where they feel they cant do their job unless it suits celtic. + bigirishgirl whats your point??so what if lennon was sent bombs what has that got to do with anything i posted in 1.)? think you have a problem you cant disguise!

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16 Mar 2012 17:07:49
ed,,the bids that are going in today sounds VERY promising,,but do you know when a decision is likely,thanks. {Ed001's Note - I have no idea, though I would expect a decision as quickly as possible.}

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The due diligence for each bid could and should take up to 6 weeks. I would imagine the new owner would be in place around mid May

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Rubbish - expects to know who has won the race within a 1-2 weeks

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16 Mar 2012 17:06:31
Strong rumours going about that some
fans of "unknown" club/clubs are contributing 1p to the RangersFans Fighting Fund via Paypal, if done
this way it costs 20pence in administration
costs, so effectively RFFF are LOSING
19pence every transaction.
Bears now that IS Ironic that some people
are using "iffy" financial transactions
against Rangers Fc (IN ADMINISTRATION)
Timalloy

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Learn what 'irony' means Timalloy, for your own good, you are soooo over using the term.

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Do you not have anything better to do?

Raab

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Your a gullible bhoy Timalloy.

Bosley.

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16 Mar 2012 16:13:08
Rusty the wee ginger tim here!!!please rangers fans accept my apology for I blame myself for the state of rangers football club.i feel sorry for you's getting up to go and sign on and buying a paper and reading pish about these billionaires going to bid..if I had just bought that £10 scarf that should have got me at least 92% shares in rangers...I'm sure if you buy the club you get the players free for there's no way you could possible put them down as assets for you wouldn't get £3.50 for them!!p.s Craig whyte holds the world record for the most times he's had sex in a year????all ready got it up 52'000 fannys in 9 months!!!!hail hail rusty the tim

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Lmao good1 crusty...hearing the chicago bears playing nfl at the asbestos arena next year ...can any sensible gers fan explain..who the devil owns rfc???is it whyte?or ticket-touts??a think wee craigos playing a blinder in all this as it was him who installed duff& phelps for administration,who in all honesty have to be the worlds worst administrators ever!!!only in it for themselves& to get the biggest pay day for whyte....at least the chicago sports specialists aint tax specialists,as sick off the amount off gers& hoops fans who are now tax& ebt specialists..1 more point apart from the circus surrounding rfc 1 man has ducked beneath the radar..mr mcoist as he is inept & not cut out for a huge job his record speaks volumes& dont give me the awe under the circumstances b****cks he had a full team apart from naismith that blew the league& cups!!!stevo..ps dont say whittaker as he a pub team player

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Good try Rusty, but you're right about CW having sex cos he well and truly humped your lot in the Broomloan last Sept. :) Said it was the best £1 he'd spent and worth all of this hassle.

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Ffs.you beat us at home.get over it.artybhoy

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It wasn`t a beating artybhoy, it was a pumpfest.

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16 Mar 2012 16:06:31
A legal bid by Rangers administrators to end the club's £24.4m season-ticket deal with Ticketus has been continued until Monday at the Court of Session.

Duff and Phelps want to tear up the agreement on the basis that the debt could discourage bidders who may want to takeover the club.

Lawyers for finance firm Ticketus claim the deal is legally binding.

Lord Hodge said the administrators were entitled to seek clarity and he would hear further submissions on Monday.

The Ticketus deal was struck by Rangers owner Craig Whyte during his takeover last year.

Potential bidders for the club in administration, who have been told to lodge their proposals by the end of Friday, will have to do so with the legal status of the deal unresolved.
'Exceptional urgency'

David Sellar QC, for the administrators, told Lord Hodge that there was still seen to be "exceptional urgency" in the matter because it was anticipated that "indicative bids" would give their terms on the basis of the contracts remaining or not.

"Given the fact that the Ticketus money is so large in relative terms - we are taking about over three years something like pounds 20 million - that is bound to make an enormous effect in the bids, leaving aside Ticketus own bid," he said.
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"The longer other bids are in a state of uncertainty the more Ticketus position is improved”

David Sellar QC

Ticketus has confirmed that it is part of former Rangers director Paul Murray's Blue Knights consortium which is seeking to takeover the Ibrox club.

Mr Sellar said there should be "some degree of clarity over the weekend".

But he added: "Given the urgency of this whole matter it would seem not merely appropriate, but highly desirable on any view, that the legal arguments could resume on Monday."

"The important point from the administrators point of view is that matters are dealt with as soon as at all possible," he said.

Mr Sellar said there was an obvious advantage to Ticketus in matters being drawn out because "the longer other bids are in a state of uncertainty the more Ticketus position is improved".

Insolvency experts Paul Clark and David Whitehouse, from Duff and Phelps, were appointed as administrators last month.

They currently hold the status of interim managers following a flaw in the appointment process over Financial Services Authority approval, but are expected to return to court on Monday to rectify the situation.
'Factual context'

The administrators claim the Ticketus deal could deter potential investors.

Ticketus has claimed that they have no power to unilaterally terminate the contracts.

Ronald Clancy QC, for Ticketus, said: "In my submission the best way to make real progress in this case is for the administrators to come back with a proper factual context for the directions sought.

"In other words to consider carefully the merits or demerits of rival bids."

Lord Hodge said the administrators were entitled to come to the court to seek directions and he would continue the hearing to Monday for further submissions.

The judge said: "If the court is to help both parties in this matter I think we must progress the arguments."

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Simple give ticketus back their money

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16 Mar 2012 14:56:17
Is it me or is everyone forgetting the 'big tax' case. And that's coming after the 'wee tax' case needs sorting out

What sort of offer do you think the respective parties will offer knowing Armageddon is just found the corner

I'll bet it's conditional on this, conditional on that etc

Liquidation still a genuine possibility

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Have you not been listening? The takeovers will involve the agreement of a CVA, and HMRC are willing to do a deal provided Whyte isn't in charge.

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Of course it is conditional, put it this way, would anyone be making a bid if there was no hope at all?

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You have no idea what the takeovers will involve neither do I. Neither do u know the terms of any CVA or if HMRC will agree to it

B serious

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16 Mar 2012 14:06:06
Thanks to the Pompey fans for their support. One of the few that understand what the Bears are feeling like. Good Luck to u Pompey keep fighting for ur club

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Airdrie fans understand.

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@1 Clydebank fans understand Airdrie fans.

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16 Mar 2012 13:27:30
Rangers latest: Five potential bidders under the microscope

Duff and Phelps the administrators handling Rangers' affairs have set a deadline of Friday,16th March for interested parties to submit their bids for the club. These bids are sure to come under the microscope in view of recent events but fans will be pleased that so many potential bidders are lined up.

The Blue Knight's consortium led by former Chairman Paul Murray seems favourite having joined forces with a team of financial big hitters. Fans will also be asked to contribute £1000 a head to help the Blue Knights save their club.

Murray, who was vehement in his opposition to Craig Whyte’s takeover, has been working overtime to attract investors with financial clout.

He has won the support of former Rangers boss Walter Smith and the three major fan groups, making him the preferred bidder in the eyes of most fans.

Murray this week revealed Scots motoring tycoon Douglas Park and big hitters John Bennett and Scott Murdoch, financial men based in London, were the first to join his consortium. Former director Dave King also hopes to become involved, subject to SFA approval.

They were joined yesterday by Scots businessman Ian Harte, who already invests heavily in youth development at Rangers, Paul MacKenzie and Brian Phillips.

Mackenzie is the chief executive of Kilmarnock-based Mackenzie-Hall, one of the UK’s fastest growing debt recovery firms. It was sold last month to US company PRA in a deal worth £33.5million, nine years after it was founded by MacKenzie.

Phillips, who trained as an accountant with KPMG, is the chief investment officer at merchant bankers GCP Capital Partners.

Murray has also secured the backing of investment firm Ticketus, who have been tainted by their £24.4m deal with disgraced Whyte.

However, they insist they are now willing to provide “substantial” working capital for Rangers and renegotiate the terms of their previous deal with Whyte.

Murray said: “It’s time to change the ownership model of the club in order to make it sustainable. We also have to recognise the club is in crisis and requires substantial investment.

“If we are successful we plan to have a widely based share issue inviting participation from supporters. We will form a strong board with representation for all shareholders in a controlled fashion.

“After everything that has happened I want as much governance as possible to provide the necessary checks and balances. We will provide more detail in due course.”

The main contender has to be Brian Kennedy who has made his fortune from a string of successful double glazing, home improvements and communications companies.

A long-term friendship with Graeme Souness – they once tried to buy Wolves– provides a link to Rangers but he concedes he’s a reluctant bidder.

He said: “I don’t really want to buy the club but I don’t want to see Rangers die.”

The owner of Premiership rugby side Sale Sharks is no stranger to the round ball game. As well as his unsuccessful bid for Hibs, he owned Stockport County.

However, in 2005 he signed over his shareholding in County to their supporters’ trust. Kennedy still owns Edgeley Park, the stadium Sale and Stockport share, but the football club are facing troubled financial times.

Indeed, Kennedy stepped in earlier this year to ease their woes by waiving £75,000 rent for the previous six months.

He outlined his thinking on sports funding soon after taking control of the Sharks in 2000. He said: “We’re not in sport to make money but we are in sport to give us something exciting for the community and that doesn’t require a benefactor.”

The Bakhsh Group claim to have interests in property, education, printing and luxury transport, but owner Shazad Bakhsh lacks the backing of the sort Murray and Kennedy can bring to the party

That leaves The Fortress Group - a global investment company with assets under management at the end of 2011 totalling almost 44 billion dollars.

They had reported losses for the 12 months previously of a billion dollars but still managed the fortunes of 1000 institutional clients and private investors. They were founded in 1998 by five financial whizzkids, led by Wesley Edens, who made his name at Lehman Brothers, becoming a partner soon after his 30th birthday.

By the time the company were floated on the New York Stock exchange in 2007 the founders were worth a total, on paper at least, of almost 11 billion dollars.

Four years ago, Edens was ranked on the Forbes World Rich List at 962 with a personal fortune of more than one billion dollars. One of his partners, Robert Kauffman, was listed at 557 with a personal wealth of more than 1.5 billion dollars.

Club 9 Sports are turnaround experts who have made their name in buying up American sports companies and apparel manufacturers and restoring them to profit.

Their executive board is packed with experienced operators from a raft of US sports leagues and they have worked with teams and companies including Umbro, the Boston Bruins, Charlotte Hornets and Denver Nuggets.

Their philosophy is clear. They say they “focus on underperforming and undervalued opportunities that can be improved by a hands-on approach of providing strategic and operational counsel and leadership.”

However, their expertise comes at a cost and it has already proved too rich for Sheffield Wednesday, who ended their negotiations with the company on a possible takeover in May 2010.

Wednesday chairman Nick Parker revealed the club turned down an initial offer of £2m for a 40 per cent stake in the club and they wouldn’t budge significantly on their offer.

Club 9 also tried to invest in Tranmere last year but Rovers chairman Peter Johnson revealed they couldn’t reach agreement.

They are hard-nosed investors – and make no bones about it. They admit: “By focusing on operations and finances, we are able to improve the performance of companies, events and venues and generate better returns for our investors.” Of the three dark horses they seem the most likley on paper to challenge the obvious main bidders..... jsm

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Sounding good jsm mate, let's just hope we can finally start moving forward, once we get bought over we should then open our doors to anyone who wants to investigate us an get EVERYTHING out in the open because I'm getting sick of it
PaulRFC

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That kenneday is sneaky as hell, ruined stockport and couldnt even buy hibs even though he is a "fan"

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I like how u beleave the papers when it is about people wanting 2 buy the club but when its about the debt the papers r talking rubbish

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Where were you and your microscope when whyte took over?

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16 Mar 2012 11:44:15
I think when the dust eventually settles we as fans and I include the tics in this, should show the rest of Scottish football what the old firm mean and they have been very lucky to be brought along on our gravy train, if I was Celtic I'd be raging we weren't invited the "big" meeting at "SFA HQ" (f£cking rockers)... Who do they think they are? No doubt spear headed by that Thompson..if it wasn't for OUR , the fans money over the years half these clubs wouldn't even be here,an if asked right now, I DESPISE utd, above Aberdeen even.
Bill Clinton

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Bit harsh, where would us and celtic be without them? Despise utd, or thompson?
You sound abit angry.
Don

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16 Mar 2012 11:26:17
Guys I don't think that guy steeeve who posts is a dhim like, I'm pretty sure he's a ranger lads
Lenny Murdoch

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Imma feck a dhim mate lol, who's been sayin this lenny? just not a bitter bear that's all, steeeve

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16 Mar 2012 10:40:45
Let us hope whoever takes us over can manage our debts and be able to invest in the playing squad and stadium. I don’t know if getting someone in who is going to throw a fortune getting good players in is a good idea for a start. We need sensible spending policy, better youth players coming through and if Ibrox stadium can get its capacity increased by another 10,000 seats then our prayers have been answered! Ibrox has to be full every 2nd week and the only way for that to happen is, good football getting played and entry to be made cheaper. If we had more seats we could bring the prices down for some of the matches.

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Ok. no-one is going to come in and spend a fortune on players. there are debts you know. sensible spending policy was going the right way, but then ! rebuild the ground, and then make the seats cheaper ?? how about turning the pitch into humble pie and you all get down and eat some. your football club owes HER MAJESTY'S revenue and customs tens of millions of HER MAJESTY'S pounds. how do you feel about that ? or is it someone elses problem ?

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16 Mar 2012 10:16:23
My consortium has just bid £10.76 for the Rankers. We are confident ours is the best bid. Application to join SFL is just waiting to be posted.

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Such a pointless dig that didnt even have a hint of humour why bother u sad man

Larky Bear

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Duff an phelps don't accept giro checks or provvy loans, so your sh!t out of luck mate!
PaulRFC

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Now, now, paul are all celtic supporters on the dole,and get provvy loans,we still remember ibrox mac donalds.garlar07

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Oh they do they do. they'll even take buckets of coins. and i think you're insulting the tens of thousands of unemployed rangers supporters and also those who have to use unorthodox financial arrangements, how do you think they must feel when you make crass remarks like that ? theres a lot of that from you lot, throwing insults around which hurt your own supporters. (though it's an improvement on the bottles you used to throw at each other in the early seventies). rangers fc are currently the largest insolvency in scotland. no person or business is poorer. beggars not choosers. take what you can get.

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16 Mar 2012 09:52:32
ed the page is being updated but no new posts are coming up the newest post on my page was from last night. just wondering whats happening with it....cheers mate {Ed001's Note - it goes into the database at set times now, just checks and sees if there is anything new then, rather than when an editor does update it. It is a way of lowering stress on the servers, rather than having to update the database and pages all at one, it now gets to do them separately.}

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Cheers mate

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16 Mar 2012 09:48:07
Henrik Larsson showing his Celtic class in the Mail today: "It's not a tainted title if and when we win it, so you bad boys stop saying that!"

Sheer class!

Pipeman

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He is only sticking up for his team and his mate, nothing wrong in that, is there?

AB72

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So.....what's wrong with that statement?
other than the fact he's speaking the truth, i don't see any issues with that.......oh, that's right, you bears hate the truth, i see where you're coming from now :)

where you guys watching the cup final tomorrow?

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Same place as you Timothy because if you were going you would know it is Sunday part time fan FAIL FAIL !

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Original post. Rubbish post, you are an idiot.
2.) Why generalise, surely there are idiots and "people that hate the truth" everywhere. You do realise supporting a certain team doesn't dictate how much of a moron you are.
I know someone might say "it's only banter" but I disagree, it is pure pish patter "my da's bigger than your da, we're the best, you's are pure scum blah blah blah."

On the subject of tainted, if Celtic win the title it'll be more than deserved, granted not seen many of your games but you can't be any worse than us. Our play has been awful at times. Anyway, fingers crossed we survive this, if punished for any wrong doing then take it on the chin, move on, re-structure our club, from youth up to first team. Surely it can't be that hard, just look at what Barca have done and copy it. We may never be a European super club but good passing football would be nice to watch. The most important thing we need from a fans perspective is patience.

pappy.

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Im off today, feels like a saturday....easy mistake

what's apart time fan? is that like the rangers fans who go to games and leave after 70 mins?

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For goodness sake pappy, I posted this piece for my fellow rangers fans, only quoting what was in the paper with a jocular slant. It's banter as the name at the top of the page suggest. We have got nothing to smile at just now, and unless a miracle happens are staring into oblivion.

We are constantly being told we are blaming everyone else, but as far as I can see the only people to blame for Rangers demise, are Murray & Whyte.

Today is probably going to be one of the most important days in our history.

In contrast you have a cup final on Sunday, into the semi's of the SC, and have won the league at a canter. If you get this annoyed at a glib remark you need to have a good look at yourself, and stop calling people idiots.

All the best to your team for the rest of the season.

Pipeman

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3,could you tell me the orgin why you call celt supporter,s tims garlar07

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6) I'm not annoyed, just fed up with the guff patter I read on this site, I used to quite enjoy the banter, but a lot of posts, including your own are pure dribble. Plus if you had read my whole post you'd realise I'm a Rangers fan. Sorry for calling you an idiot, but it was a stupid pointless post.

pappy

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16 Mar 2012 09:10:19
bosses at the worlds largest dating website for married people have offered to save rangers if they paint ibrox pink. ashley madison which helps cheating spouses set up affairs have offered a five year sponsership package worth 4.4 million. the us firm is also willing to pay an extra 2.3 mil if allys team play wearing sponsored shirts

source daily star

i now this paper is full of sh*t most of the time but how funny would this be if true. im a celtic fan and would have loved to see ibrox turned into a green and white asda but a pink ibrox would be funnier infact il help them paint it

wee darren

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16 Mar 2012 08:51:58
how many bears are boycotting tanadice tommor, our bus have handed back the tickets . money went to rfff n a donation to mcmillan too.

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How pathetic can you people get ?...col

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I stopped going to Tannadice after the rained off game and they tried to charge full price again. Should always boycott this ground and give money to RFC or as you say a deserving charity.

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I would probably agree but the Team needs the support of the Fans right now .

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16 Mar 2012 07:53:02
Honestly I said this before, but this rubbish about celtic better run in fear. When? In 5 years time? Lets be honest with our self's were in a sticky place and its a long process getting back. So lets stay calm and wait for our time to come. Also this rubbish about porto. So we can assume then that this 'friendly' next friday is actually the 92-93 european cup final and winner gets there names on trophy? Cr&p.
Don

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Do u remember the last 3 years ???


People have very short memories

TB

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Do you remember the three before that?

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16 Mar 2012 06:44:03
Ed- do you have any idea the cash we have to pay wages and ongoing bills like gas and phones and electricity? How many months can we operate under our own steam?
I remember you said we didn't have enough to pay for policing the next old firm game, is that still the case? {Ed001's Note - it is going to be a struggle to see out the month, as things stand. Hence the fighting fund being set up, the club isn't bringing in enough, it needs more home games.}

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Ibrox should be getting used for gigs anyway. Would love to see Springsteen and Guns n Roses there. When was Ibrox last used in this capacity, they have been missing a trick for far too long.

and............in a light hearted way, could you imagine the atmosphere when the 'BOSS' sang No Surrender.

AB72

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Frank sinatra played ibrox!
I think this will be the idea if the american takes control.
deejay

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But there is the secc, plus this new hydro and there is celtic park n hampden, ibrox at bottom of big list.

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And NFL games etc, seriously though it is hugely underused, and easily the best venue in Glasgow for these gigs. Too much hassle getting to Hampden and the girodome. Makes sense, should be way forward. {Ed001's Note - what I am told about the reason for US interest is that the NFL are looking to expand their European operations. They have been so impressed with the success of the Wembley games that they have been looking for more and Glasgow is supposedly favourite to get an NFL game or two each year. The NBA, NHL and MLB have also been looking on with interest at the success of the NFL in Europe and apparently AEG have had informal talks regarding holding a couple of test events in London for them, but also the question was supposedly asked regarding a Glasgow leg too. We have been talking it over on the editor's widget and we think that is why Rangers are of such interest. Baseball is not really suited to a football stadium, but Murray Park could be used to host it, with temporary stands or something similar, as the open space lends itself well to baseball, we think anyway.}

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But will the money not go to ticketus ex? or is that just for rangers games? if it is just for rangers gamez then rangers would make a bomb off the NFL don't you think? depends?, steeeeve {Ed001's Note - as far as I am aware the agreement doesn't cover other uses of the stadium. But, even so, they don't have all the tickets, so the club would still make some money, if they get full houses.}

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16 Mar 2012 06:33:41
Curious that D&P have not committed to stating that the March wage bill will be paid in full.
Rumour that cash holdings to cover wages and utility bills running out.
D&P stating in court that funds in Lawyers account desperately needed to save rangers. Judge unlikely to pass judgement on ownership of funds based on rangers financial situation begging questions of D&P ridiculous legal argument.

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16 Mar 2012 05:13:29
Hey guys does anyone know if the Legends game against Milan will be shown on RangersTV website or any other channel for that matter?

Everyday we will stay! We will never walk away!!

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It's live at ibrox, they could do with your money

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I'm thinking that if the poster is subscribed to RangersTV, then s/he will be putting money into Rangers anyway?

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A thought all money went to sum charity ?

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"we will never walk away" ha, until the 70th minute

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16 Mar 2012 02:07:33
Arabian Knights coming with an offer the Blue Knights cant compete with. Its between them and Fortress from America. Kennedys and Murrays offers will be laughed at compared to these 2

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Aye the arab group are called ALI BABA N THE FORTY THIEVES lol

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Somebody had to much to drink?

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16 Mar 2012 00:57:08
arabs interested and will put in firm offer - willing to invest in squad - supposedly - the paper has called them the arabian knights lol. just writing the main points of the article. great if true but surely just paper talk.

ryanrfc

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As i said on the rumours page, 1...2....3 Man city eat your heart out haa, steeeve

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Steveeeee if this is true then all you dhimmy timmys will be papping your pants... W.a.t.p..... Billy the bear...

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Didnt know that dundee utd had that much money lol

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Billy the bear, am a blue nose like you mate lol

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16 Mar 2012 00:13:02
If Rangers werent in administration
properly this means our very own Mr
Craig Whyte has still been in charge of
our club and its accounts for the last few
weeks. Dont you think its funny how
D&P never noticed this themselves or
maybe thats why mr Whyte insisted on
using them in the first place. It would
be interesting to see how Rangers
money has been used or even moved
around during this period.

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16 Mar 2012 00:05:22
From the GHOST.Looks like the wee man QUOTE {{the wee man }}Craig Whyte is doing his usual stunt, running of to MONOCO.When will you ever learn,that you will not be DUPED,by those to whom you are known and had past dealings with.Does HMRC raiding past employees private houses not come to mind.Well you CRAIG WHYTE can be rest assured it is still fresh in the people concerned.Well you might have got away with private employees, BUT THE BIG BOYS ARE CLOSING IN. there will be no hiding this time.EVEN [[[MONOCO WONT SAVE HIM ]]]See who is F---ED this time.HOPE YOU HAVE A PLEASANT JOURNEY. Signed of by THE GHOST FROM PAST..

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15 Mar 2012 23:59:10
has anyone ever questioned murray as to WHY he sold rangers for a quid?

we were told that lloyds were happy with the loan terms, and that the debt had been reduced greatly, from around 60m down to 18m in the space of what, 4 years?
so with that kind of performance, rangers would have been debt free by the start of next season.

murray also said that the tax case was nothing to worry about, and that he practically guaranteed they would have no case to answer....so why sell, why so desperate to go that he reduced his asking price 4 times, from 24m, to 10m, to 6m, to 3m......and then sold for the price of a bombay bad boy!

this 'knight of the realm' is turning out to be one of the biggest shysters ever known....the truth will come out one day, but i wouldn't hold my breath on his scottish media lapdogs reporting it

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15 Mar 2012 23:49:24
Whats all this wi porto waitin to here if we r guilty , celtic wnt league titles taken off us, and everyone else holding hands and praying. well carlsberg dont do paranoid but if they did can i please have 18 cans so am the same as them.

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When have celtic ever stated they want titles taken off you?? NEVER....sort yourself out, i think you've had more than your fair share of cans of paranoia

do you lot just make sh't up and think if you repeat it enough then it becomes true?

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Naw hen a think its you lot that do that not us bears! give it a by eh, majority of these posts are started off by tics then we respond by individual opinion or facts ( rarely ) and we are the deluded ones, grow up please S&M

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