Rangers Banter Archive February 17 2012

 

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17 Feb 2012 23:25:15
one good thing out of this sorry mess is the publicity rangers are getting all over the world maybe attract a buyer for the club ....bigt

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17 Feb 2012 23:25:12
So proud of the ranger family , I'm a season ticket holder but would happily pay again to get in as long as the money went to save the club. I know its our self inflicted problem but the lengths the daily rebel and BBC are going with their lies disgusts me. The spl management committee stuff them explore every avenue start in the conferance leagues after about seven years we would be up with the big money let Timothy have sole possession of the league title up here see how long this lot could last without us. Hollow victory Timothy we will be back

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If Rangers pay their debts and the fans rally round you may have something to be proud of. As for lies I dont see any most of what has been written has come to pass. Whyte is a crook no doubt but Rangers only have to look in the mirror for the source of their problems

Danny bhoy

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17 Feb 2012 23:21:59
Is Murray and Whyte involved in this
shambles together, is the 9m unpaid
tax, Jelavic fee and the
ticketus 24m going to get ploughed
into rangers once they get liquidated
?

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17 Feb 2012 23:17:20
Have to say I am getting more and more impressed by Ally as every day passes. I don't know if he has what it takes to be a good manager, but perhaps only Walter would be better suited to this situation. He is beginning to realise that whyte had no interest in Rangers, money is his only god.

Ally is distancing himself from whyte and I am impressed by his rallying of the troops. We don't do walking away, a great quote that should be the rallying call to all Rangers fans. I have to admit that I posted a few weeks ago that I was not renewing my season ticket after forty one years because I am not prepared to support whyte in any way shape or form. He is a thoroughly disreputable character and should never set foot in Ibrox again.

I am sure we have now seen the last of whyte because his position is untenable and providing he is not involved I will happily continue my season tickets and frankly be happy to pay double if it helps get oUt of the s**t earlier. Cant wait for the game tomorrow think it will be truely bouncing.

We don't do walking away

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Well said mate
Iam Legend

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What a fool you are............green jhedi

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17 Feb 2012 22:51:35
A full house is whas needed tomorrow to bring some much needed cash into the Rangers coffers........oh wait....the Ticketus coffers.....lol.

Joeshmo1888

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That would be season tickets, typical tim clutching at straws...

RFCJ

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You are neither witty or clever, and It's getting very boring.
Grow up.
BR

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17 Feb 2012 22:49:17
i wonder if mr liewell had something to do with cousin not being given permission to play?

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Dont you think decency might have prevaled? 30k per month when theres sackings?............green jhedi

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Personally I think it'l maybe be a little more to do with the fact that you can't register new players while in administration

Mikey Bhoy

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17 Feb 2012 22:15:20
Why would Paul Clark sign the contract for Daniel Cousin which was presented to the SPL.

In my thinking i thought he would be looking to reduce over heads instead of giving the go ahead for a alleged £7,500 per week contract.

Das Shadow

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Sorry guys, just seem someone posting the same comment earlier today.

Das Shadow

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17 Feb 2012 22:10:15
If Rangers get beat tomorrow - 14 points behind . Celtic play 3 times before Rangers play again - 23 points ahead !!!

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If Rangers win tomorrow........

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If Rangers win and Hibs beat Septic thats 11 in front, we beat you in two old firms games, not impossible. Thats five, your buckie bottles start to crash yet!

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Meaning Rangers have three games in hand over Celtic, so what. At the end of league we all play the same amount of games.

Das Shadow

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Celtic go 23 points ahead? Aw fk us bears better worry about that ae? Think we've got other things on our mind fs

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17 Feb 2012 22:04:23
Just a thought,

How would it go if no one bought season tickets but bought indivdual tickets for games.

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Would certainly bring better income depending on how much a ticket was but I would rather the price of season tickets just went up

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Ticketus own the seats so would just make them more money buying buying them all individually every week lol

Mikey Bhoy

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Mikey Bhoy,
Surely it would be classed as a public sale, the same principle with away fans coming to ibrox, its the away club that get that money.

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Don't think they own the seats, that would mean they would get any revenue from european (I know we probably won't be there) and cup games.

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The deal is 15,000 season tickets over 4 years = 60,000 average cost of a season ticket £400.00 = £24,000.000, so the full Ibrox regards a public sale,and public sale money goes to Rangers apart from the money of the away support.

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Ticketus do own the seats be it via season books or via pay at the gate the money goes to ticketus Swiss Toni sold them The seats and ticketus parent company have been in touch with the administrators today with the proof of sale documents and as the ground is not part of whats in administration the money will go to tickets for 4 years

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Well every seat that would be eligible through a season ticket would surely go to ticketus upto whichever amount was sold off i.e 30,000 or whatever. A company like ticketus isn't gona give money away for nothing or with no guarantee of getting that money plus interest back. Sorry to disappoint you but it's about time some of you 'people' realised just what's really going on here

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17 Feb 2012 22:03:25
So there we have it the administrators dont know where the 24m from ticketus is and Craig Whyte manages to make a statement where he quotes that all monies in and out of Rangers can be accounted for. Oops Craig that's not really the issue it's about the money that has never actually gone into the account remember that's 24m of the supporters money. Therefore two questions one to each party,firstly to Duff AND Phelps yes we know you are uncertain where this money is,but it aint rocket science just demand thatCraig Whyte tells you exactly where it is after all he is quoted as saying he will be working with the administrators to ensure matters are resolved as quickly as possible. Now to Craig Whyte do you really think we are all stupid just stop saying a lot without actually saying anything and tell the administrators what other account the 24m is lodged oh and by the way to speed up the process,if there are any other monies in any other of your numerous accounts tell the club now.

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Well I I I I can certainly say the money is safe a a a a a and sound. All money in and out of the club has been accounted for. I I I I can assure you that the club will survive and that I I I I have made the right decision for the club.

Kind regards,

Craig Whyte

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17 Feb 2012 22:00:22
David Whitehouse , Paul Clark

Just read there profiles on there duff&phelps website. they both look very good at what they do and are both very respected in there line of work.

Paul clark
As a supporter of the turnaround culture, Paul regularly advises boards on non-insolvency solutions and has taken an active role in many successful turnarounds. He believes in a participative approach involving all stakeholders in the process. He is well known for bringing harmony to apparently insoluble situations. He is well known for his ability to groom businesses for sale in the most beneficial manner achieving the greatest possible recoveries.

David Whitehouse
He has strong relationships with all the major clearing banks and has provided creditor advisory services to a broad range of financial institutions, with particular focus upon the asset based lending and banking sectors. He also regularly acts for management of distressed businesses where a consensual solutions-based approach to particular difficulties is required.

So make of that what you will!

I think when cva's are put in place by these two gentlemen whyte will sell up and do a runner.

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Don't take that as gospel they usually write that sort of stuff themselves!
Diesel

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17 Feb 2012 21:50:37
A lesson for all fans.
1 winning isnt everything
2 true fans support a team even when they are not the best.
3 Sometimes businessmen couldnt care about and actually laugh at die hard fans
4 true football fans should enjoy football first then loyalty (if misguided) second.
5 who or what are fans actually loyal to? They sing of a dying allegiance to the crown but are desperate to keep money from the crown.How does that work.
6 be honest, even if rangers had the dodgiest owner in the world and won every game- most fans would be delighted until things hit the fan.
7 for true decent fans i feel for them.
8 for the bitter ones the whole thing really makes me laugh
9 Ally Mcoist is a gentleman
10 the whole thing shows how dodgy the business world really is and will continue to be.
11 Souness signing mo Johnston.Carlsberg dont do winding up small minded bitter dafties on both sides of the old firm.
12 im sure i saw Craig Whyte at mass last sunday

im not an old firm fan
im not bitter
dont get too angry as lifes too short

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The fans never kept any money from the crown, they paid for their tickets after that they have no control over the destination of the money

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Fans paid there money, what the business men at the club did with it was not their fault. As far as we are concerned, VAT was paid at source when we bought the ticket.

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You're no an "old firm fan", you're no bitter (you just spend your spare time trawling a Rangers fan site sharing your pearls of deep wisdom and insight)......

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Regarding the last comment
1 the whole rangers fiasco is fascinating and sad and funny and tradjic
2 before all this it was mostly all about the team with the most money winning
3 crime stories interest people
4 im on a rumours site because craig whyte wont tell the truth
5 its a rumours site, not purely a fan site
6 im drawn in by peoples small minded opinions
7 if i shouldnt be here the the editor wouldnt post this
8 why dont you all reply (honestly) to the points i made?
9 or you could just continue with pointless phrases like watp
10 watbitterpeople watsmallmindedpeople
11 if people are on this site you as an ambassador for your club should welcome them
12 you should welcome unbiased fair views - you might learn something about tolerance
13 good luck ally mccoist -a gentleman
14 im still not bitter in any way
15 i may be wrong but i suspect you might be just a wee bit bitter
16 please reply

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17 Feb 2012 21:43:25
Apparently McCoist learnt yesterday what the end game is and he is happy about it. Nobody wondered why he's gone from really down since Monday but cocky since Thursday?

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He was probably just glad to see the back of Whyte.

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17 Feb 2012 21:37:26
The people who say Celtic winning the SPL is now meaningless would then have to agree that 9 in a row is now meaningless.

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Aye agree Celtic's 9 in a row was meaningless. However Rangers 9 in a row was well before the use of EBT's etc so do some research before you post you plank.

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I believe that they are making the point that the continuation of our club is more important than the immediate title race...

RFCJ

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Why was nine in a row meaningless were Celtic docked points?

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Why hide behind a disagree button... voice your opinion brother.

BigBear

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17 Feb 2012 21:36:45
heard today from someone that when whyte took over rangers had roughly £8m in the bank. does anyone know if this is true and if it is thats shocking./biggles

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It's could be right, his so called billionaire status was to do with his portfolio of properties/business's etc. Plenty of money tied up but no cash. Makes sense if you have alot of money, put it into business's etc, tie it up in offshore accounts/overseas registrations etc - otherwise the tax man will take a large chunk of what you have.

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17 Feb 2012 21:33:57
Its all well and good saying...sell Whitts,Greegs and Davo, as they are the high earners, but where do they go? who signs them? they cant play in Europe as the windows are all closed....so who would pay money to sign a player that they cant play until August?

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Certain countries transfer windows are still open till the 24th feb.

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Not if rangers cancel their contracts to get them off the wage bill.cant see it myself but maybie one might go....lafferty if the burnley rumours true.........green jhedi

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17 Feb 2012 21:22:56
regarding the 24 million.If whyte puts this money outwith Rangers would that not protect it from HMRC and then when things are all paid off could he return the money to Rangers?Thereby stopping the Government getting its hands on the money?

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That sounds illegal

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It's a bit sneaky business if he has, but maybe he's thinking he will need that money to rebuild the team after the event. We shall see, i still don't trust him.

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Well done....that's the stroke that's getting pulled, and then some, Whyte might act like a d+++, but he's not, and he's gonna do the HMRC big time..

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Doing the HMRC is like Doing u and me this is the countries money it pays for schools hospitals etc, it is wrong

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Do the tax man? really? ......green jhedi

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The Government, Councils have wasted millions/billions on stupid policy initiatives over many years...Look at the overspend on the Edinburgh Tram Network for example. If we owe the Money in the Big Tax Case then a judge will decide - until then all we owe is the 9 million that should/hopefully will be paid.

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17 Feb 2012 21:01:47
Haven't seen many "teamsheets" for tomorrow boys...... Greegs
Bentfoot goian boca papac
Aluko Davis edu Wallace
Healy jig
That's my guess anyway. PaulRFC

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Paul...i don't mean to be rude mate, but it couldnae really be anything else.

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17 Feb 2012 20:42:12
I have taken a few days 2 gather my thoughts on everything that has happened & have decieded this I do not mind celtic fans having a go at us as I would do the same if the ball was on the other foot so celtic fans, mangement, & board members can say all they want as I couldn't give a flying kite what any1 thinks I am only interested in my team & it's survival, now I have a season ticket with my son, I am not loaded by any means but I have a few notes I could disperse with without my children not having food put on the table, so does any1 know if there is 2 be a collection or any other ways of putting money into the club 2 help the cause we all need 2 do our bit & more all the tickets being sold out is a great start & I hope it is like this till the end of the season no matter what happens & I would like 2 say 1 last thing MR Whyte do not show your face in IBROX again
NTYABOW

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Good post. I am a Celtic fan and agree with what you say. Rangers fans would be the same if it was the other way around. Although I, like everyone else, had a laugh I do feel sorry for the fans. It's not there fault, they have been robbed from. Don't get me wrong, I don't think rangers the football club should get off Scott free, but I think the real fans deserve a bit of sympathy.

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I hope a few people reply to this knowing if funs can be raised, i for one would love to give something back to my club. At least we could say we all we all did our part n not feel in the shadows like we have with craig whyte! TODD88

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You should contact the rangers supports trust and ask about collections, donating etc... i know there was talk of starting somthing and the rst is the right place to be talking to about it

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NYABOW - Good post mate - Been there to. I just try and ignore the Tims' posts - but sometimes find it incredibly hard to, 'dug with a bone' - most have an unceasing ability to post nonsense.
I had checked earlier on the Blue Order, RST facebook etc sites couldn't see anything. Txt'd some mates in Supporters Clubs. If I hear of anything I'll post.
Some con artists might see it as an oppurtunity tomorrow and appear as if they are a collector, so I wouldn't give to anyone - goes without saying really and I don't think you would.
Iam Legend.

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Guys,your hearts are in the right place but your in admin.if you make collections keep it in a bank till after admin.what about your supporters trust? surely they could organize it?.............green jhedi

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NTYABOW - Got some news Rangers Supporters Trust might be having a colllection tomorrow. The RST have opened a bank account for donations. Haven't got details of that this now - maybe try them yourself.
The Blue Order are having a march tomorrow at 1.30pm. Do not know the size of this one. I would also think that there might be a chance of a collection there to.
Hope that helps you. Spelt your tag wrong first time, sorry bud.
Iam Legend

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@gjhedi - you're going to England, hurry up and b*gger off! We'll deal with this, away and have your jelly and ice cream you've gloated about for weeks.
Iam Legend.

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I'm sorry lads afraid you"ll have to take your medicine till this pantomine blows over, had to sit through the Carl Muggeltons , Andy Paytons, Wayne Biggins (remember him) , up against your team of proven top internationalists, who were obviously being payed handsomely for their efforts, biscuit tins, for every fiver you spend we"ll spend a tenner spouting from Murray was being shoved down our throats. I am enjoying every minute of whats happening at your club so please dont get upset about the gloating from Celtic fans who have suffered , let your misery continue for a few years yet..........Stevie

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NTYABOW

your post came straight from your heart bud and i admire the honesty spoken.as you say boot on other foot and i do have a laugh at whats going on but deep down i would like to see your club get through this
wish you well in your quest for survival

Lubo25

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Sorry guy's & maybe gals who knows in this crazy world but as you's know I work nightshift & am sorry for not getting back sooner, firstly Iam Legend thank you for your help & I know how you feel 'dug with a bone', I my friend am a wierd f***er, you see I am married 2 a catholic & my kids are catholic who go 2 catholic school of course my son is the only RANGERS supporter in his school don't worry he can fight like f***, now 2 celtic fans who took their time 2 reply 2 my post, the first guy, green jhedi,lubo 25 this is what gives me hope yes they all are having a laugh at our expence & as I said I would do the same if it happened 2 them nearly did I remember it well pished ma troosers couple times, but they really don't want us out the game because they would miss it as much as us & they have the balls 2 stick up for what they believe.

I admire this more than the scumbags who are never of the radio stations saying they want this 2 happen or that 2 happen 2 RANGERS, because they are nothing but bigots who live in a bigot world yes we have them 2 but I will say this most guy's on this site would do anything for either of our teams so don't let it get 2 you my friend because you want 2 see ma hoose at an old firm game at porkheid I don't go 2 away games, ma missus is a 'dug with a bone' & she doesn't let go till she gets ma bone, so Iam Legend keep the faith we will be ok in 'SUPERALLY WE TRUST' & lets get IBROX bouncing today 2 the celtic fans thank for your words
NTYABOW

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Cheers NTYABOW,
Ha ha ha brilliant.
Enjoy your day - I think we will need some of your son's spirit to see this out!
Hate giving up on the league but a bridge to far this season. Our 'Championship' will be getting thro this and coming out the other side in control.
They've got to be having a dose of the dexy's midnight runners by now with all their jelly and ice cream - see it in their posts.
Iam Legend

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17 Feb 2012 20:11:50
Just goes to show you, how spiteful the other spl chairmen are ,no one likes us,we dont care.,what a shower,quite happy for our fans to fill their coffers,it sticks in the throat,never mind ,we know where we stand,One Club,One Rangers.get it round them.

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It'l soon be no club, no rangers tho.....

Mikey bhoy

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F... up.your club owe other clubs money.money they need.not their fault your trying to dodge out of paying it.artybhoy

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Fine, so when the other clubs voted a few years ago to accept Setanta instead of Sky for the TV deal and the clubs that voted for Sky were voted down and we lost several million extra - are they going to pay the teams that voted for Sky on money lost.......no thought not.

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The sky/setanta thing was a democratic vote, the rangers thing is due to under hand business strategies and living beyond their means for many years....2 completely different scenarios only the uneducated would try and compare

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17 Feb 2012 19:59:19
Hear mr thopson of Dundee united not happy about our famous club well screw him how many years has rangers and Celtic carried scottish football am pretty sure they will get their money . But fellow gers rem this action from them stay well clear from tannadice don't give them our money place is a dump anyway watp .. Kenny

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Pathetic.If any other club owed rangers money and rangers found out they would only be getting 10p in the pound then rangers rightly would be up in arms.Why cant you look at things fairly then real fans would respect you

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Iv said it for years, without us (Celtic & rangers) these teams would be in the crap, we've been giving these teams our money for years, I say boycott their grounds till they are on their knees begging.... They messed us up for a lucrative Sky deal a few years back, so wheels and roundabouts
.I'm a diehard celt, but I hate these little PARASITES hanging on to our coat tails and tryin to call the shots.....when will they understand that it's only because of us, they still remain. Rangers maybe my teams biggest rivals, I may hate them, but I wouldn't wish them I'll. I'm neither religious or political, I just don't like rangers coz they are my teams biggest rivals,simple. And I hope they pull through this, coz this is the biggest rivalry in World football bar none, long may it and the banter continue! Good luck
Bhrydo bhoy

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Thats gonna work both ways.no visiting fans will come to ibrox,and lets be honest.you lot need them more than they need you at present.artybhoy

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Try river plate v boca mate by far the biggest derby in the world..............green jhedi

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The only away fans from the SPL that make any real financial difference to Rangers at Ibrox are Celtic fans (plenty of numbers) - We don't get that many away fans from the other clubs anyway.

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Bhrydo bhoy words fail me to comment on your pathetic post, your on the wind up surely.....Stevie

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Why , stevie.....pray tell...
Bhrydo bhoy......and river plate v. boca jrs, if an old firm game costs 2.00, im sure we would fill 2 stadiums.
Bhrydo Bhoy

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17 Feb 2012 18:59:03
Meeting at Hampden today with all chairmen invited.

They pushed for cousin not to be signed as they still owe clubs money.

Craig Whyte was invited but never showed??

They all agreed Rangers revenue would have the deductions from hearts, Dundee United and dunfermline deducted before they receive anymore money from the SPL. (TV etc)

They have also stated Rangers fans will have to buy their tickets from the hosting clubs direct from now on until administration has passed.

Thomson( Dundee United) is fuming with Rangers and has a big backing for further penalties

Source: was there

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Simple answer,rangers fans should never buy a ticket for tannadice again.

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See that Thompson man! Hes a f&cking tube... Does he forget his cup winning captain was a player given on loan to them from us.... He didn't have much to say that year... See since he's hardly kept his mouth shut... An I personally wouldn't p!ss on one of his cheap an nasty "shops".... Spar makes liddel look like marks an sparks. PaulRFC

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Was there yer arse!

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Is that andy was there from yoker?.........green jhedi

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Agree with you m8 guy is a w..k we mite be down not be down for ever watp kennyrfc

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Aye your right, guy is a demon, imagine the headlines "Honest business man in wanting to be paid for goods and services SHOCKER"
Even if a fan of another club was just about, maybe, kinda, ish, to feel some sympathy for you lot you come out with this bile!!
If someone you have not paid, wants to put the boot in a bit, the decent response is "sorry, we are trying now though" not aye well when we rook the government, our peers and our fans and we are back in a position of strength we are coming to get ye.
Nevis

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Thompson didn't own spar it was owned by botterils of Blantyre ,he owned morning noon and night both of these companies are part of Scottish midland cooperative so it is safe to buy from them Thompson hates rangers with a vengeance

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I know mate.he should just keep quiet and forget about the money rangers owe him.so should the tax man,eh?muppet

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Well it's easy enough to get back at him...don't buy a ticket for the Utd away game. Simples.....Boycott the game and hurt him in the pocket.

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Ha is it morning noon an night thought it was spar.he's still a tube

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Short memories sandheids your club put airdrome out of the game for£30k,if I recall correctly sir minty moonbeams said airdrie could not play on the good nature of your ;DIGNIFIED institution....funny thing karma
Hoodbhoy

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Murray certainly didn't help matters.....but Airdrie were liquidated because they owed over £3million in debt......but it looks better to blame us for causing their demise, eh timmy.

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You have to just laugh at that tw@t Thomson. HIs sole concern getting the cash for the away allocation in a game some weeks hence "or he shall pass them on to united fans instead" (all we need is for harry potter to magic up another 4,000 odd of them from somewhere!). Either way, he's short. They're in trouble too.

We'll get through this and people have long memories. The man's an utter tube.

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17 Feb 2012 18:55:36
SPL have just refused to allow Daniel Cousin's contract to stand therefore he is a free agent again unless we appeal

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Would an appeal be the right thing to do bearing in mind the sackings heading to ibrox? 30k per month is a lot of "ordinary workers" wages.........green jhedi

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Dan cousin shouldn't get a contract, ours at the club deserve to be at gers much more than a guy that couldn't wait to get out the last time.

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17 Feb 2012 18:52:44
Cousin registration knocked back..he won't play tomorrow but Rangers can appeal..just on BBC

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The league is by, so why waste 7,500 quid a week til the end of the season on a player we no longer really need.

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17 Feb 2012 18:23:25
Just seen Neil Lennon on sky sports somebody asked him about wining. The league devaluing because we got 10 points a don't think anybody should be saying that if Celtic win the league they win it by wining games end off the day it's our own fault. We lost and draw games we should have one plus we have a clown of a chairman that ripped us off ...kenny ps you will never get a bigger rangers fan than me

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If celtic want towin the leauge of their own merrit they should take a voluntry 10 pt deduction ha

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Why on earth would we do that when we can just keep winning every game

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The bookies dont say ' oh, do you know what, well give you the ten points back, the fact of the matter is, i as a working class celtic supporter feel honestly terrible for the decent law abiding Gers fans and families, as usual its the little men that suffer, like society today, its the fat cats only interested in lineing their own pockets that whistle away into the sunset, whilst the fans are left behind with years of tradition and generations of people on the brink...i for one despise that...and wouldnt even wish it on you, my worst enemy! Get behind your team, as its only you who can save them...and you will, if you want.
Bhrydo Bhoy..........likes a wind up, but time to get serious now, good luck!

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@kenny;fair play to you mate.............green jhedi

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Why do you care about winning the SPL you are going to England? taking the SPL title down there won't get you into euro.
Iam Legend

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Cheers Bhrydo Bhoy - fair do's
Iam legend

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I've heard nonsense on the news about the title being 'devalued if Celtic win it', Let's be honest, Celtic clawed back the lead we had over them and now sit clear (before the 10 point deduction), and they are looking like champions in waiting. I fully believe Ally had one hand tied behind his back in the transfer market thanks to the troubles at the club, and the fact we only brought in one player during the transfer window speaks volumes. Would we have won it otherwise - not so sure, maybe. But credit where it's due, Celtic have been the most consistent team this season and will win the league (although it pains me to say it). Lets get ourselves sorted out and come back fighting next season.

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Celtic will win the league, fair and square. I have no qualms with that - we lost games we probably should have won. The tables don't lie. Getting a 10 point deduction just speeds things up. We will be back next season (I Hope) and ready for the challenge.

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17 Feb 2012 17:43:02
All tickets are sold out for the Kilmarnock game.

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So is most of the season tickets for the next 4 years......just not to fans yet

Mikey Bhoy

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17 Feb 2012 17:36:52
I agree our top boys should take a wage cut... I would like to see our captain come out publicy and lead by example by stating to us fans that he has or is willing to take one... PaulRFC

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Doubt that very much, these guys may already be rich n earning a great wage but they'l still have pretty expensive mortgages etc to pay

Maybe Aluko can pay the wages for a bit tho to help out

Mikey Bhoy

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Spot on paulrfc

also people like McCoist and Durrant should come out and say they are willing to work till end of season for free.think about it they both are very wealthy men and both have had testimonial games thanks to your club. time for a few big earners to show how much they do care for your club in hour of need

Lubo25

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Bull**** I love rangers to bits but you have to remember these guys have bills to pay same as the rest of us.

BigBear {Ed033's Note -

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17 Feb 2012 17:29:29
The first players to go will be mcgregor, Whitaker and davis. They all signed big money contracts at the start of the season.
Selling these guys has 2 main benefits:
1) minimum loss of personnel with maximum wage saving.
2) minimum loss of personnel with maximum transfer fee received.
Yes we'll lose the core of the team but with Ness coming back and Edu starting to improve, Alexander will do short term and Wallace could step in a right back.
Plus I don't think we'd suffer losing these players first!

Sigy

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I couldn't care less about what players will leave. The only thing I care about is the survival of the Club I love.
It will be sad to see players leave but it's not the most important issue.

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I would have thought the big earners with minimal sell on value would be 1st to go.
eg Jig, Boca, Papac.

pappy

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17 Feb 2012 17:12:16
Cousin named in the shad for tomorrow, that will be the next thing fielding a player who is not eligible to play.

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That's squad it should be, flaming corrective text.

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Ha ha - nice one - Is flaming correct?
Iam legend

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17 Feb 2012 16:48:48
Whyte not appearing tomorrow, cowardly bar steward. We don't do walking away, seems he does. I hope he stays away

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He technically doesn't have anything to do with rangers now, the administrators run the club. Your better off with the crook in Monaco anyway, he'd only steal the sugar out yer tea!

DazzaBhoy

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Aye dazza then the cheeky wee sh!te will sneak back for you milk! PaulRFC

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The administrators call the shots and it is only on their invite does he get in.
Iam Legend

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17 Feb 2012 16:37:03
@green jehdi an the rest... Plenty were calling for lennons head before he even got started man...an their voices got louder the further behind you fell...just coz your "mates down the pub" wernt saying it doesn't mean it wasn't happening....but back to ally what is yours an others point? A manager doesn't speak out against his chairman so don't give me your sh!t mate... Ally should of walked in protest.. Ally should of said this or said that I don't agree I think supers conducted himself superbly an great to hear him say he'd never walk out on HIS team! PaulRFC

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Totally spot on PaulRFC.

GDog
WATP

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I for one have never called for Lenny's head, i think he's a superb man manager and motivator. Plus no-one i drink with has ever doubted Lenny!

McCoist i think has been shafted big style, but has made a few errors, but it's his first season and he will come good. He's just been unlucky to have been rangers manager when it went through it's darkest period!

DazzaBhoy

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Totally agree dazzabhoy

ryanrfc

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Your actually alright Dazza lol

Billyboy1

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DBhoy - how many bar staff in your local?
Iam Legend

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The reason super doesnt do walking away is simply because he will never have another high profile managers job,super sat doing and saying nothing about mr whyte incase he was sacked.,the situation actually suits super,this is the most support super will have in his entire time as manager...mc coist is a yes man.pure and simple.

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Or maybe this scenario... McCoist is a gers fan through and through and this is his dream job, the only one he ever wanted. Why would he walk away then? Ally will only leave if he's sacked, he will never walk away just because things got difficult.

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17 Feb 2012 16:36:41
if we took 200.000 to manchester
i wonder if 200,000 will showup at ibrox

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Hope not cause half the fans in Manchester where are disgrace to the badge.

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Half of them? would that be the lisbon calculator getting used again?

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No cause Chelsea are playing on saturday at 3pm!

DazzaBhoy

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Thats 100,000 rioting in govan tomorrow then

Lubo25

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17 Feb 2012 16:28:04
I would urge all fans to watch the full interview at least a few times with this Whitehouse and Clarke from the insolvency firm Duff and Phelps.
Don't listen to what you want to hear but look at their facial expressions and body language when being questioned. Watch what the baldy guy does at around 13mins in, when being asked a question, looks like he's trying to tell Whitehouse something. Then watch what what he does at around 18 mins in, when trying to avoid a question, then when Whitehouse begins to answer it and he turns to him and says shhhh while giving him a look.

Then there's the speech he read out. Nice attempt pull the wool over our eyes again by telling us they have no ties to the fraudster Whyte, like that is normal practice for an admin team to do. Clark, Whitehouse and his company have our clubs fate in his/their hands and he can't even read a statement, that no doubt was written for him.

After my rant, my point is that these two guys are puppets on a string and I beleive the puppet master to be fraudster Whyte. Why do you think he's in London, the same place Duff and Phelps are based? We need the courts to appoint a new admin team ASAP

Ed, did you notice this, watch it, see what you think, STV have the full interview, any thoughts on those points or do you think I'm talking nonsense, lol

The only people that can turn this around is the fans, I don't know about anyone else but I don't trust ANY past board members to run this club. Here's the start of a wee idea! Instead of looking for someone to rescue us why don't we the fans rescue the club.

Rangers supporters trust buy a .com name so the fan can invest in the club or at least pledge to invest until we know the full extent of the mess and what we are facing.

150,000 fan x £500 =£75m

Club run as a democracy with each investor given a vote on things such as the running the club, board members, even managers however they should never be allowed t pick the team.

Another thing that should be done is to get 100'000 of those fans to sign a Government e-petetion demanding they launch a full fraud investigation into Craig Whyte and David Murray.

I sure if a few legends put their cash in to promote it it would get off the ground very quickly.

NEVER should one man own our club again.

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There are over 250,000 fans on the official Rangers Facebook site never find the many hundreds of thousands of other fans.just think as you say 500,000 @£2 per week=£1million each week=£52million a year.would need someone to set up a site if only to register an interest.Simples.

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Great idea mate maybe paul murray could set up something like this our club would be an absolute monster

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I will set it up and look after it

your sincerly

C Whyte

Lubo25

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When Murrey made a share issue that was your chance to do exactly that. Unfortunately none of you wanted to invest. In fairness Murrey listed the company on a cock-eyed exchange with only minimal financial scrutiny. If he had listed on the full stock exchange neither him or whyte would have got away with half of this

David

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17 Feb 2012 16:21:29
Will there still be protests at Ibrox?

CW not being there should not matter.

Still protest and ge behind the team.

He will get the news no matter what.

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17 Feb 2012 16:17:48
Why have we all to be in our seats for 2pm tomorrow? Whats happening?

Billyboy1

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If your in by 2pm then Kris commons will leave you are pie and burger

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The players are warming up I presume!

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Anyone later than 2pm,gets a seat on the new board.artybhoy

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17 Feb 2012 15:56:27
How many people think that will McCoist will lose his job next week? After all, when the likes of Gretna, Motherwell, Livingston and Dundee for example went into administration, their managers lost their jobs.

If it turns out that he knows what whyte's been up to all along then he deserves to be sacked, hero or not!

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Another bitter septic fan, of course ally didn't know about Mr tight, can you not handle the fact the guy scored so many goals against you, get over it, its in the history now.

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Ally stating that he wants answers too, first time he has distanced himself from the charlatan

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I love it when McCoist says that he totally trusts Craig Whyte. He knows as much about football tactics as he does about people.

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17 Feb 2012 15:55:46
Dont wunt to b a dampner but the facts are,a full house at ibrox great for team,but will b used to fund 18 million for whyte then the clubs 9 million at ibrox,the fans at tommorow will b season ticket holders money already in,so apart from moral,i have a feeling with next 2 games away their will b more bad news,how can we generate money for creditors when most revenues morgaged,its a farce n by supporting the current rangers all ate filling main creditors pocket,

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Rangers will be fine, they know what their doing.

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17 Feb 2012 15:51:29
Ally McCoist should lead the Rangers team out tomorrow before kick off.

Circa 1990 David Sole Scotland's rugby captain against England.

Das Shadow

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Celtic fan here but if its anything like David Sole that ill be a hair raising event!
First time flower of scotland was sung too i think, amazing stuff.
Nevis

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17 Feb 2012 15:38:58
Ed, if we need to fill this £10 million black hole why do we note introduce a wage cap?

Current player wage bill is £2m per month. Cut this to £1m per month- £12m saving

McCoist then says who he needs/wants and they determine the wage bill i.e 20 players at £50k per month or 40 players at £25k per month. Still room for senior players to be on higher wages as most youth players, Wylde, Hutton, Ness etc are on £3k per week £12k per month.

Cut out win bonuses or reduce them, do away with draw bonus(if they still operate this). Reward players for winning trophies when prize money will be awarded to the club, or qualifying for CL or Europa cup then this can be split amongst the squad with the club taking a share also.

Don't know if this looks too simple or I'm missing something but it would maybe help the stability of the club in future if we can get ourself out of this mess.

The Pilot! {Ed001's Note - I am sure the players could all be asked to take a wage cut, then you will see what kind of person they are by their reaction.}

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There is a rumour going around that players have already suggested cuts in order for the staff and players to stay.

GDog
WATP

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@The Pilot!;the way all clubs should be run mate.performance rated wages with a basic of around 7k per week.............green jhedi

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17 Feb 2012 15:32:56
Was reading the paper there, why is peter lawell and a couple of other fuds relating the gers crisis of the 1980‘s a think he just can't admit septic do need us, because that was the 80‘s this is now, celtic isn't as wealthy as they were back then and scottish football was at its peak. typical lack of knowledge and respect to us. so that's why even salmond knows scottish football won't survive if we go down, but bears rest assured its lookin like we won't be “ here's hoping. WATP NSE

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Muppet alert! you are heading to liquidation and you worry about what mr lawell says? cant you see whats going on here? by filling ipox tomorrow you are prolonging admin and thats what whyte wants.for the next FOUR years your season tickets (bar around 10k) are sold! but you just worry about comments mate. WATP dont make me laugh............green jhedi

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You talk nonsense , make your mind up either we dont support the team and get accused of turning our backs or we turn up and you accuse us of stupidity .You are a complete T*T.

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Somehow I dont think the above reply is from Green Jhedi, if it is then you have dropped in my estimations. The point made is fair it's about dignity and being professional.

Your dreaming if you think or hope Rangers are going into Liquidation.

Ed can you check if this person is Green Jhedi??

GDog
WATP {Ed001's Note - as far as I am aware it is him.}

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Check out this link for some damning news about the Ticketus fiasco.

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/2012/02/17/rangers-in-crisis-ticketus-insist-firm-bought-future-season-tickets-with-24m-given-to-craig-whyte-86908-23754775/

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Who do you think your talkin to? a don't think this is green jhedi either, but you a c**k!, am far from worryin about comments kimosabbi, just him showin his true colours ! he's more bitter than Lemmon himself lf, and get liquidation out your head you sad man, it will not happen P.S all tic fans have bought jelly and ice cream so they can sooth the pain cos the gers will be back out of admin and we are comin for you! WE ARE THE PEOPLE!

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17 Feb 2012 15:18:05
is it just me or what....watching ally mcoist get out of his 70,000 pound 4x4 and cashing his huge salaryas we speak ...on what.....out of all cups with a full squad....a 9 point clear lead blown and personally he disne huv a clue .....but all of a sudden hes a hero.....im a rangers fan but find this humerous to say the least......if a new owner comes in he should be the first oot the door alonf wi the 2 other misfits....cubbs

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"a rangers fan"? no mate your a rocket....PaulRFC

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@cubbs; i dont get this ally nonsense either.he has backed whyte up to yesterday,still saying trust the people in charge.if he had a pair he would have walked in protest at the mess HIS CLUB is in........green jhedi

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What can he do? He has been working with his hands tied behind his back. He has had no backing what so ever. Promised 5 mill didnt even see 3. We dont negativity towards the team right now there is enough of that from everyone else.

Billyboy1

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Green Jhedi you are starting to sound like a tool. I think perhaps someone is signing off as you.......If not then you've lost it sone.

ALly is keeping his cool and playing it correctly. Professionally why would he walk???

You need to lie down.

GDog
WATP

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Your a real hero mate, ally has earnt money away from rangers, he`s worked at ibrox without a contract-he`s a club legend to me i was raised on his goals-he`s a young manger that has had no backing from above and guys like you are quick to turn on him? ar$e
stg

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@cubbs why do all rangers fans insist it was 9 points your team was ahead we all know it was 15 points are you ashamed to admit it or something.Fat Sally just doesn't have what it takes to manage a club the size of rangers.Hobbybhoy

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17 Feb 2012 14:56:30
i am one of the celtic fans that feel that celtic need rangers and vice versa but lets be honest i see a few comments from rangers supporters stating that this years league is a farce, what about the trophys won when you were not paying taxes and had an unfair playing field compared to the rest of scotland. now we have stupid comments from politicians saying that rangers are a scottish institution. yes they are but they owe dunfermline money, dundee united money and your sister club in edinburgh money not to mention the money you owe the queen. to be honest rangers were living beyond their means and will take at least 10 years to recover if they recover. rangers as we know might have to go and a new version might come in its place to challenge us. Rangers fans instead of getting petitions to clear their debts or getting politican to enter talks with hmrc need to realise that the club are millions in debt to numerous different entities, these debts need to be met, it might take years, it might mean relegation it might mean years in the wilderness, but as previously stated i would rather have glasgow rangers remain than some other club name. ps fans also need answers from everyone david muuray craig whyte etc

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Rangers have not won a title since they stopped paying their taxes in May.

They were paying their taxes along with the EBT scheme but HMRC are fighting it saying that they did not pay enough tax. We were using a loophole in the law but HMRC are now challenging this and until the case is decided then Rangers have done nothing wrong.

So to all the Celtic fans who say that the trophies were tarnished well I don't think so, just the same as the amount of Rangers fans who say that this years league title is tarnished, No it's not, Celtic recovered from 15 point behind to go 4 points ahead so we as Rangers fans needs to accept it & we also need to accept that the rules state that if you enter administration then you will receive a 10 point deduction.

So if Celtic win the title then they have won it by gaining more points than all the other teams in the league.

The Pilot!

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The Pilot!; the EBT's are legal the letters exempting players from tax are the problem.that makes them classed as wages.....green jhedi

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EBT's were a legitimate loophole in the law used by MANY COMPANIES, not just football clubs. Only recently HMRC have been instructed to close that loophole and clawback the monies owed retrospectively.

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17 Feb 2012 14:52:19
Does no one else feel UEFA should look at the clubs across europe and start to implement a wage cap and transfer cap on players. It would change the face of european football for the better. You would have teams playing with players that love there clubs you would have far better european games. All the leagues across europe would become fair. It would see youth being brought forward too. The players coming out of countires would be far better. I would be more than happy to have an SPL where everyone is fighting for the league. The attendances at all games would be higher.
We have 2 teams in the spl. spain has 2 teams. england has say 5 teams but these teams are big because of the money that is being spent. So how about a cap on wages/transfers. The profit margins for clubs again capped. with % earnings going into youth development and passing savings onto the fans. It would be hard to start but that is UEFA's job.
Am not sure how the yanks do it but dont they have a draft for youth players at the start of the season. I would love to see that start where each league ie SPL all players under a certian age are up for draft and your league position from last year allows you 1st,2nd,3rd....pick live on tv. say player contracts can only last max 3 years and no extension can be added during that time but when the 3 years are up they are allowed to speak to other club or choose if the club want them to stay where they are.
These are just ideas in my head. random stuff. but it would make going to games far more exciting. I can handle losing the league (not to celtic) if the games i am watching through out the season are exciting which i feel we dont have in scottish football atm. I know that the big boys in europe, barcelona, real, man utd, chealsa have a big say but UEFA should be untouchable. If you had a vote across europe, am sure 90% of the teams in europe would vote for caps. Looking at the lower teams in scotland my home team stirling albion. now the likes of them couldnt aford the top caps on wages but they would be involved in the draft so would be able to get good younger players, aswell as aged players running down there career. I think i might have gone on abit but it would be good to know fellow bears views.

Don

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Works well in the nhl mate, its somthing uefa should be looking at because im sure so many teams are in a bad state

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The day the salary cap comes in is the day the big clubs break away, would you be saying thus if rangers were rolling in the money? Doubt it, you can't just choose a salary cap option when gers have no money, we got caught cheating now its time for the years of pain deal with it.

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With all due respect, its not UEFA's place to do that. Its up to the FA's across Europe, and with all due respect, it'll never happen because those that are backed by multi-billionaires that can afford to buy players worth the value of Rangers FC are raking it in.

You say it would make the continent fairer, maybe so but it would also eradicate the competative edge where players have aims of higher clubs i.e. Barca, Real, Milan, Man U etc.

I think there should be a limit on the cost of a player, not so much his wages. Lets be honest, Andy Carroll aint worth £35million...as for Torres...well thats a laugh...

Maybe capping the amount allowed to buy a player would make it fairer, giving everyone a more decent shout at landing a "good" player...

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I have personally always said this. I hate the fact that teams dominate leagues it makes a fool of the game. I understand that there have been threats before from the big guns, but then whats the point in UEFA if the big clubs tell them what to do.

Don

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The aim for these players isnt the team they play for its the money they make. Say £20,000 cap on wages. thats still insane amounts of money for anyone to make. Say your a player 20 years old and your make £10,000 a week at Rangers, your contract comes to an end and every team in the epl is offering you £20,000 then you can pick the club that feels right. Where as your contract comes to an end and every team in epl is offering you £20,000 except leeds are offering you £50,000 in the championship but you arent guaranteed a game. Well you would go to leeds because the money is so high even though you were not gona be as happy at the club. The way the game is run needs to change.

Don

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17 Feb 2012 14:50:09
I can't believe that its taken the club to go into admin for people to be calling for a full house and to get behind ally an the boys. It should be a full house all the time and it wasn't long ago gers fans were calling for allys head and sayin the team weren't good enough on this very site !!

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I agree with your first point - but your second point i dont - I think people just thought he was a shi*t manager - when really we dont know because he hasnt had any support from whyte and th powers that be at ibrox. nowthat we know this - we can throw our full weight behind everyone except whyte.


ryanrfc

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What's your point mate..., Celtic fans were calling for lennons head earlier on the season that's what happens when your teams doing p!sh...even wengers been questioned by his fans this year...nows not the time to call for ally's head an he has my 1000% backing. PaulRFC

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@paulRFC;dont believe the papers mate.there were some calling for lennons head but it was a tiny number as i never heard anyone at games or in pubs saying that.we knew mowbray left us in a mess and his huge payout didnt help,so lenny got time to turn it round............green jhedi

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Small number my a**e, every phone in was jammed with septic supporters calling for his head. Neil Lennon was forty five minutes from his P45. League title by default, will it still be as good if you dont win by at least ten points!

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I wish you clowns would leave a name,the fact you listen to phone ins shows your a fool............green jhedi

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I know plenty that were calling for Gollums head when celtic dropped 9 behind. but i will give the guy his due he turned it aroound and got his team winning.

BigBear

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17 Feb 2012 14:14:10
Is it gonna be a full house on sat?

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17 Feb 2012 14:10:53
50 thousand expected to a wake on Saturday. I hope the family have put on enough sausage rolls, don't let Ally smell them though, they wont last long.

Joeshmo1888

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Hope Kris commons ain't going, pie alert.

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Wake normally implies someone dead and a gathering. Do you Dhims understand any of what was said yesterday or is reported in the papers. We are here to stay, like it or not WATP! Remember no pressure on us to win we are right behind our team now win lose or draw. Bottle crashers and nothing won yet with you lot!!!!

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Well your winning nowt thats for sure!

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Might win the Big Tax Case - that will do just fine.

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17 Feb 2012 14:09:55
Sell out at ibrox tomorrow bears cant wait to be there cheering our team. hope tomorrows sell out will encourage buyers to buy out rangers and wipe the debt and wipe out whyte. SW

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People on here seem to be happy its a sell out tomorrow would be disappointed if it wasn't

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17 Feb 2012 14:04:11
I fear every players contract which
is up at the end of the season will
be first to go, not looking good for
Papac & Healy. Sasa has been a
great servant over the last 3 or so
years true professional and will be
missed. As for Healy not so much.

I know Aluko's contract expires in the summer but got a feeling once others go he will
be offered a new one.

It will also be interesting to see if the big earners
at the club, McGregor, Davis,
McCulloch, Whittaker etc take a pay
cut to help out the situation.

Of the others i think Broadfoot,
Bartley Bedoya McKay & Kerkar
could well be on their way to.

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17 Feb 2012 13:47:50
Has anyone saw the Matt McGlone interview on Scotland tonight??

! Talk about being deluded, eh? They actually think that Celtic can just "go somewhere else" if Rangers cease to exist. I know it's a bit rich of me, a Rangers fan, to be laughing at the Celtic fans but it's hard to when they think they can join the EPL. It's hilarious!

TTG

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Just watched it on STVPlayer.

Taking the moral high ground. Wasn't that long ago that they were an hour from going bust!

Short memories!

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Most Celtic fans think he is a tit as well.The only good thing he said last night was when he had a go a Michael Kelly for putting us in almost the same position as Gers find themselves now.

Jungle Bhoy.

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17 Feb 2012 13:37:54
If there is found to be misuse of the EBT's ,would it not be possible to reclaim some of the money from those who benefitted, ie the players ?

Paddy Malarkey

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I would agree Paddy..by all accounts HMRC are just after the Employers NI that RFC should have been paying at the moment. If the players think they are OK because they were given a 2nd contract which states that the "loans" werent to be repaid then if it is found that those contracts are illegal then they are worthless. Therefore if i was a player who benefitted from this system i would be a bit worried that HMRC will soon be after me...for example if i was on £20K a week for 3 years and I should have been paying about £8K a week in tax...the tax man will be wanting £1.3M from me.

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What if the players didn't know rangers were using EPT?

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Would you hand back money you had earned and didn't know that there was anything wrong with the way it was being misused?

Not a chance.

Steven.

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The problem is murray gave the players a letter stating their exemption.some players have been interviewed by HMRC.it's the letters that make it rangers liabilities.........green jhedi

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Green jhedi is spot on, thats why players took it no comeback... craig+babybear, leaves us responsible not even murray,

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Green jhedi show me any links where it states former rangers players have been interviewed and that they where given a letter from murray its all been what this site is for rumours pal mark.

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17 Feb 2012 13:32:18
this article shows that it wasnt just Craig Whyte who was tight!

www.chesterchronicle.co.uk/chester-sport/everton-fc-news/2012/02/17/ex-everton-fc-defender-michael-ball-says-he-had-to-pay-to-play-at-rangers-59067-30348257/

Michael ball had to pay 4k a game after his first 60 games because SDM refused to pay it all, even though it was in the contract he signed when the player was sold

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Michael ball who got paid millions for nothing!? I'd of charged him 40k a game the cheeky wee sh!te. PaulRFC

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17 Feb 2012 13:31:09
Regarding the comment at 13:18:06. Do you honestly think Ally would go on TV and slate Whyte, he's got class, unlike you!

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Gers supporter here,dont kid yourself ally is as slippery as a snake,he wont knock whyte in case it comes that whyte dodges all the bullets and manages to come back to ibrox,if he slags him off whyte woud bullet him out on his a...se like he did everyone else.....trueblue....

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Whispering in peoples ear then running away? Tapping up about a dozen players still under contract trying to unsettle them?? When he was a player he condoned diving for a penalty as gaining your team an advantage? Blatantly lied on seceral ocassions now to his own fans... Real classy aint he! Hes a sneak thats a fact

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Ally will say anything to keep his job and the fans on his side,dont forget ally lost a massive lead in the league and got rangers pumped out of 4 tournaments in the space of a few short months,why all of a sudden do fans feel the need to back super when months ago they said the job was beyond him and should never been appointed in the first place.

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@tryeblue; at last a gers fan not blinded by ally.legend yes....manager.....dznt look like it.............green jhedi

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17 Feb 2012 13:28:40
why dont they stick rangers and celtic in the premier league? its more than doable! think of the money!

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They have to be voted in...and they don't want the old firm in it.

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17 Feb 2012 13:18:06
see sally says he has total trust in craig whyte well good bye rangers then if he believes eveything whyte has done , you got to laugh what does that say about his jugdement , mind you look at some of the crap he has signed

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Did McCoist actually say he trusts Whyte? I saw his interview on SSN yesterday and the only thing I heard him say was the fans need to trust those who are in charge to take the club out the situation it is in. There was no mention of Whyte from McCoist....

TTG

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Aye mate just like liewell had trust in mobray an vice versa... What club do you no where the manager speaks out publicy against his chairman... Well done you've proved how stupid you are PaulRFC

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17 Feb 2012 13:15:18
"its been widely reported that we will spent 25 million on the squad aiiieee aiiiiie. i will speak to ally to see if any of that needs to be front forwarded." the words of craig whyte. need any more evidence against this charlatan? watch this link and laugh at the lies.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3NKd1rHUbQ

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17 Feb 2012 12:54:46
Im not the most business minded person nor do I claim to be the most intelligent. But am I grasping at straws and looking at this much too simply. Ok we have let the league go this year and to be honest this is a small cost to keep Rangers alive. But by going into administration and writing off the majority of our debts, does this then not make our club more lucrative for someone to come in and buy us. Is this the case that when we come out of administration we will be stronger as a club than we were at the start of the season. Must admit Im not feeling half as bad as I felt at the start of the week. RANGERS TILL I DIE

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I cant see anybody buying in while the "big" tax case is undecided,whyte wants this as liquidation will,financially,suit his plans....green jhedi

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I hope so mate. i hope someone steps in and buys out Rangers as Ally has said its peoples lively hoods and jobs on the line here. yes i agree its a small price to pay loosing the league this season in terms of our clubs survival. SW

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17 Feb 2012 12:51:45
Mandaric would be crap as he will only be in for the profit he can make from a club n not in it for the club themselves or the fans, yous need someone who has previous club knowledge of the club such as the marlborough family. Also need to cancel contracts of players that are not getting used eg bedoya and ortiz.Another point to make jelly and ice cream when rangers die :)

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17 Feb 2012 12:45:12
CMON THE KILLIE!artybhoy

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CMON THE Hibs

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17 Feb 2012 12:35:41
i hope the police find evidance that whyte is guilty of fraud. Taking a 24million pound loan out in your own name to clear the 18million pound lloyds bank debt then paying it back through supporters season ticket money is not on. any1 could have done that..even me! He has only put 1 pound of his own money into the club. the other 6 million from the loan has gone towards buying his big castle and fancy cars ect while the fans foot the bill?! Surely he can be prosecuted for this? as embarrasing as administration is, the best thing to happen to us recently is now having guys running the financial side of things who will do it all above board. Whyte has been dodging tax since he took over and i for one am glad that has come to a stop. he has been a disaster since day one and the sooner he gets to f@@k the better..heres hoping its in handcuffs.
Ian

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Agree 100%. and this guy calls himself a rangers fan?
if he cared about us he would never have drove us into administration and caused us the humiliation of looking as skanky as that other mob who surprise surprise are taking the moral high ground. what short memories they have. remember when they were minutes YES minutes from going out of existence?

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Whyte has been doing this for years and has sharp advisors guiding him,nothing he has done will be illegal.If he wanted he could create a paper trail that would take months to sift thru.you should be worrying about the administrators.They HAVE to work in the creditors interests,the largest creditor being.....whyte.One of the directors of the admin company is the same guy who walked into ibrox with whyte as an advisor,why do you think HMRC where so keen to appoint their own administrator? you have to face facts,whyte has complete control of the situation even with this "advised to stay away by police",do you really think he would have come to the game? this is not a dig, but you are being really nieve turning up on saturday to pump more cash into rangers,you will only prolong the admin.exactly what he wants.........green jhedi

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Green Jhedi

So now your here telling us Rangers fans
to stay away from the club.
You really think your something don`t you.

Run along to your own page and continue to gloat like you have been doing for weeks now.

Bosley.

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Are fans not allowed an opinion themselves jhedi? Surely if the fans want to show their support for their club, they should do so.

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@bosley;dont you think another more imaginative protest would help you get rid of whyte? i did say that i was not having a go but cant understand why you would do it.FOUR years ticket money sold and you give more to keep the admin going! look at the big picture............green jhedi {Ed001's Note - if they don't buy tickets it will be liquidation rather than admin. Caught between a rock and a hard place right now.}

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I don't get you green jhedi. Now and again you post some sensible comments, but this comment is just nuts.

So you are telling us Rangers fans to NOT turn up on Saturday and support our team? What is wrong with you?! If we weren't to turn up and support our club you would be on your high horse telling us how we don't support our club through thick and thin!

Your a tricky wee bugger to understand green jhedi...

TTG

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Ed001: exactly the point im trying to make mate. this seasons a right off why keep laying cash out? if you have a season ticket dont go.you have already paid to show support..........green jhedi {Ed001's Note - but they can go and buy merchandise and food and drink. It's not like the club can resell the tickets if they don't turn up.}

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17 Feb 2012 12:28:52
HMRC tried to get Portsmouth wound
up for 1.9m in unpaid taxes. I think we
could be screwed 1.9m - 75m is a hell
of a big difference and with very few assest
I cannot see a way that administrators
can balance this out. New team expected in the near future. Shyte must go NOW!!

SC

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17 Feb 2012 12:27:50
Mandaric would be no use to rangers he doesnt have the financial 'muscle' if you like, yes he is a rich man, but not the extent where he can bankroll our team which is what we need, we need someone to come in and rightaway invest 20 million into the team, and sign a whole new team basically, we should build the team around Davis, Bocanegra and McGregor, and naismith the rest can go as far as im concerned, mabey keep aluko, thing is we have had a below average team for years now but still won the league and done reasonably ok in europe concidering our resource, imagine how far ahead we will be ahead of celtic when we get a bit of backing , no wonder they are giving us al lthe dillisiounal comments they know when we bounce back they wont be able to compete, they have a board that is not going to invest any serious money
i cant wait for the future, administration is probably the best thing that could of happened to us bear believe me

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Rubbish! since lennon took over he has rebuilt a team,the whole scouting network and the approach to the u/19 team.Do you think it's an accident celtic have been invited to the next gen tournament? we have a team of very young players with long contracts and great sell on potential.when you emerge from administration/liquidation you will at best be 2-3 years behind celtic.And by the way mandaric has said the story is rubbish..........green jhedi

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What approach have Celtic got on the u/19's? We hear about how "awesome" Celtic's youth set-up is yet we never see any young players coming through. The only u/19 player Celtic have produced over the past 3 seasons is James Forrest.

Being invited to the next gen tournament means heehaw.........

TTG

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17 Feb 2012 12:08:05
is it true there's a meeting at 12pm at Central Station tomorrow? I'm off train at 12.13 and don't want to miss the march to Ibrox

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Ffs.you lot doing the conga too?artybhoy

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Funny fartyboy.

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17 Feb 2012 11:54:26
Milan Mandaric says he is not intrested we just need to get on way playing football just now and back the team and wait till sumthing concrete is on the table before geting our hopes up

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17 Feb 2012 11:34:04
Alright Bears, just off the phone to the ticket office and have managed to get a ticket for the match tomorrow. They said they have been able to release a few extra tickets for the Broomloan front and also have a few left for the club deck. They also said that the level of interest suggests it will sell out around lunchtime. If you're planning on heading along I'd urge you to act quickly! Finally, does anyone know if the plan to be seated for 2 o'clock is still going ahead?

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As far as I know it is.

GovanFR

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17 Feb 2012 11:07:09
@green jhedi.... Totally agree mate... Whyte only ever had one plan an that was to shaft as many people as possible, wish all your posts were that sensible. :) PaulRFC

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Not that that's would you said.... That's what I think but also agree with your statement. PaulRFC

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@paulrfc; i give and take clog mate! lots of decent people like yourself are suffering,we have been there.......green jhedi

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17 Feb 2012 10:35:12
Ive heard alot of talk about pheonix club coming from the ashes of rangers and alot of folk seem to think its the future- not me, im a rangers fan id rather see 11 boys from glasgow playing at ibrox ( if we still have it) than a team created in the name or similar name by a so called fan so he can take peoples money and used our clubs name to do it, we have a history i wouldnt lose, we had a tradition, a distinction from other clubs its been tarnished and tainted lately but we are rangers, we have 140 years of glory enough silver for 280 years and at times we have fans that are amazing, we have been upset at what weve seen over the last few years not just off the park but weve not had a great rangers team to cheer on it but by working hard together we won 3 titles in a row and it could be a long wait till the next title is lifted at ibrox but one thing we have in our hands is- we can be the best fans,sing the loudest, we can fill out the ground, cover it in blue, red and white and cheer on my rangers, your rangers-our rangers! we might not have a great team on the park but lets act like champions off it!! its not over yet and while rangers are still going and a rangers team take to the park and theres a bluenose to watch his or her team- it never will be-lets cram ibrox to the rafters,build a wall of sound let anyone who has a doubt about us or show a possible buyer of our club that could be watching and let the world see that we are still and will always be-
SIMPLY THE BEST
a sad but defiant bear
stg

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Well said mate

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Totally agree I have no appetite for a pheonix club rising from the ashes - We must do everything we can to stop or avoid that - its is disgusting if someone people think they can mess with our history as the worlds most successful and proud football club.

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Aye mate I don't care what anyone says a new club is no longer MY club.. I can't even contemplate that as a scenario...it's wrong on just about every level possible... Pay our dues an be seen to be doing so by rest of the world so we no longer have to be ashamed of something we as fans had no f&cking control over like...if the mhanks have to borrow our title for the next 5 year then so be it because il take that over a new brand any day! PaulRFC

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What about a pheonix club rising from the sashes?

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Celtic changed their name in 1994 from Celtic Football & Athletic team to Celtic plc - they still have their honours / history etc

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We changed from a ltd to a plc we did not cease to exist although we nearly did if it were not for fergus

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Who cares what celtic have done, this is rangers, changing your name is your right going out of business is total different thing if this club goes under the history goes with it-you cant stop and start becuase you owe a few quid
stg

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17 Feb 2012 10:29:46
the fact that people are coming on here and stating who they think will buy rangers surely has to be positive news. as a diehard bluenose 24-48hrs ago i was fearing the worst for my club.

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Unless it's someone like your previous saviour Whyte.
Your ex directors could have and SHOULD have stopped Whyte from ever gaining power. What motives did thse people have for allowing the sale? What skeletons do they have in their closet?

Tune in tomorrow for the next episode of sashes to ashes.

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It was very simple Lloyds threatened to freeze Rangers credit unless they sold to Whyte, meaning we would have gone into admin last year.

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Would it have been better to go into admin last May rather than now, though?

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17 Feb 2012 10:14:08
I hope i speak for the bulk of most real celtic football fans. We've had our fun but now it is serious and most of us dont want you to go under. I just want Craig Whyte to be held accountable for all the wrong doings he has done past and present. Football aside he has put people out of work with all his dodgy dealings ove the years and if rangers dont get rid of him he looks hell bent on destroying the whole spl.

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All football fans are at the mercy of the people who run the club, the average punter just wants to see good footballers on the park , there are no club exceptions to this even if some try to take the moral high ground.The previous owner of the club took advice from accountants on how to minimise the tax burden it would appear that this may well have been bad advice but obviously this has yet to be proven , all businesses attempt to reduce their tax burden as do the self employed , how many plumbers or brickies have been shafted by accountants. Now we move on to Mr Whyte a professional parasite who preys on vulnerable companies , a venture capitalist by trade, a group that have no morals and would literally take candy off children.Why did SDM not see this was a certainty to happen it was so obvious to everyone.I have supported Rangers for 40+ years and this is an affront to the decent Rangers fans . We need to pay off all the clubs we owe money to as a priority. I just keep listening to the news at the moment hoping for some positive information , surely there must be criminal charges to come.

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Agree - questions also need to be asked of David Murray

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To the original poster. You start of by saying you 'hope' you speak for the bulk of us, which implies you don't know what most of us think....then the following sentence you say most of us don't want them to go under, which now implies you suddenly do know what most of us think.

Going on the majority of people I know and posts I've seen on several sites, most of us do actualy want them to go under. Not so normal workers lose their job and certainly not to make winning anything any easier but because justice has to be done after all the money they have cheated the public out of

Mikey Bhoy

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I'm a Celtic supporter in peace here I for one don't want to see rangers go under but do believe you should be punished for what's gone on before what kind of punishment do you think is acceptable . If rangers did go under what level of players would the spl be able to attract be hard to bring anyone with any type of class so therefore the level of play would also suffer

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The fun's only just started. Now it's either a slow and painful death, or a quick one. Either way, Rangers, now bereft of its "unsurpassed dignity", is on its way out.

Of course, in whatever form it attempts to return, that club will clearly not be able to be accused of ever having a sectarian signing policy, nor for holding the record for the heaviest defeat in a domestic cup final anywhere in the British isles, so there is clearly a silver lining to every cloud

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17 Feb 2012 10:01:35
Mass bouncy starting in the 9th minute on Saturday.

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Cheques ??....col

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MASS at ibrox .....magic i will be there !!

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Lol...9th Minute why the 9th minute? to commemorate the 9 months CW has been in charge or the £9M unpaid taxes he racked up since he arrived..bounce up and down again on 24 minutes and see if we can find the missing ticketus money....oh perhaps bounce up and down at 11 minutes to show support for the number of players left in your squad...

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17 Feb 2012 09:42:52
Celtic fan here just got to laugh at the headline in the sun Milan mandaric interested you could not make that up one dodgy owner for another

There must have been something there for the hmrc to investigate him but he got off with it who's next to be linked with rangers Harry redknapps dog lol

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Grow up!


GDog
WATP

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17 Feb 2012 09:16:56
Ed season ticket holder her I was wondering if you can tell me if there is anything happening on saturday for us to get answers we won't get them but I just wanted to know thanks mate WATP {Ed001's Note - the only answers you will get now will come from the administrators.}

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17 Feb 2012 09:08:24
This is the chance the one and only chance to see how much the club really means to us (fans) no matter what team is playing on the pitch we are rangers and we will show the world how big and how much rangers really means to us lets get behind ally and the team WE ARE RANGERS WE ARE THE PEOPLE.

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The world does,nt care about watp loose this 19th century crap both side,s are as bad,the world has bigger prob,s than us,im a celtic fan a human being not a bigot,we all are the people garlar07

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Still love the craic though,as long as it,s funny,hope you dont go under would miss the games,be nice to each other god,s watching lol garlar07

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17 Feb 2012 08:26:43
Mccoist says he trusts Whyte he's the only one . Ally tell him to go to f..k . He will stab you in the back as well m8 .. Kenny

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Mccoist has done himself no favours with his backing of whyte.he should have resigned in protest at the way whyte has behaved,im sure the fans would have stuck with him and forced whyte to stop the administration.is ally working to his own agenda?.........green jhedi

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Ally is doing what is best for the club publicly slating his boss would be a terrible move

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C'mon! mccoist is starting to look like a stooge.during the trialist shambles he was still toe-ing the party line.he has the fans on his side and should have told murray the score.or...he was being lied to in which case he should have walked.......green jhedi

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Wake up!! McCoist is doing the right thing....he could not possibly cause any more chaos buy saying he believes Whyte is a crook!!!

It was a bloody stupid question to ask that got the correct answer.

McCoist has ALWAYS remained dignified and I for one think he has been one of the best speakers as a manager, under enormous pressure like no other, he still turns up and still remains positive.

An extraordinary performance against all odds.

GDog
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@GDOG;your loyalty is admirable but blinding you. so far mccoist has,lost a nine point lead in the league,been put out of four cup competitions(which would have brought more cash in),and bought three players which,after signing them,decided not to play them.Not good signs he's gonna make a good manager.He has acted ,i think,pretty foolishly in his backing of whyte......green jhedi

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17 Feb 2012 08:26:09
I for 1 cant wait for Saturdays game, I think the players will be right up for it after the week we have all had!
I sense renewed optimism within this great institution!
I will sound deluded but with 2 old firm games and another 10 SPL games to play I am not conceding title!
A defeat V Hibs on Sunday and they will start to think whole world is against them and all it would take is anothr draw coupled with old firm victory and we will be well in the running, their last 3 games before split is away to Killie, Away to Rangers and home to StJohnstone, only a Heffernan sitter missed prevented them from losing all 3 and these games 1st time round and could be played while we are coming out of Admin
Even to lose title race by 9 points would mean only off the pitch actions (hmrc and spl) prevented us from 5 in a row!
theglasgowranger

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Aye right

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Come on now we have gone on a 17 game unbeaten run and currently now due to your clubs financial failings 14 points clear do you honestly think we will throw this away.

As for your team they have thrown away a 15 point lead do you honestly think you can claw back 14 points. With your squad about to get smaller and no real goal scorer available to play.

Ian(For every £1 Celtic spend Rangers will pay 10 to their creditors)

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17 Feb 2012 08:12:14
If there is no trace of the £24m from Ticketus having EVER entered our account and according to Administrators Ticketus have not secured the debt against any of our assests then do Rangers actually officially still owe Ticketus or if no trace it was received by our club then surely whatever companies bank account it went in (Craig Shytes) are responsible for repayment or at least the debt is in their companies' balance sheet (if they still trade)
Also if it is proven Whyte purchased the club by using income generated against the clubs assets would he no longer be a creditor at club?
Rangers Forever!!
Theglasgowranger

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17 Feb 2012 07:59:36
Here lads, dunno if it's just cos I'm using, rangers rumours mobile. But anyone else think the advert links at the top of this page are a bit ironic? Haha.. Gers fan btw

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Ha not as bad as the date ones I keep clicking on by mistake wi ma fat fingers on ma birds iPod -- she thinks I'm at it man. PaulRFC

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17 Feb 2012 07:47:47
Mandaric wouldn't be my prefered owner! We need a true blue to come to the rescue!

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17 Feb 2012 07:44:05
Good luck Portsmouth hope you pull through from your dark days . Can only look forward to better days ... Kenny

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17 Feb 2012 07:31:18
I know the Administrators have still to confirm if season tickets will be
honoured until end of the season. But, as a season ticket holder I would happily pay again to attend remaining home games .. as long as they were sensible!

£15 for season ticket holders x 40,000 would be £600,000 per game.

It might ensure that there are no redundancies?

I appreciate in difficult economic times not everyone would be able to do this .. so could the Rangers Supporters Assembly organise something to help safeguard jobs?

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17 Feb 2012 06:48:05
Guys we took 250,000 to chase success in Manchester so i ask can we bring 100,000 to Ibrox on Saturday in support of the Rangers! No matter what Craig Whyte is doing or what David Murray has done or if Tom Hunter will buy us...... We are still and always will be SIMPLY THE BEST!!

We must stand together and show the whole world as the whole world will be watching. Europe, America, Australia, China, Asia will all look to see how the biggest and most successful club in the world react when injured.

No matter if you have a ticket for Saturday bring the family and friends and sing our great proud songs in and out of the stadium. Lets make it the BLUE BLUE SEA OF IBROX!

Follow Follow so lets ALL follow on in our numbers. are we just glory hunters as only real Rangers fans will come along!! WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED!

Agree if your coming disagree if your a Csmeeeltic fan ny!

ARMY BEAR!

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Most of your support ARE glory hunters. They believe they have the divine right to win everything in Scotland by any means. Hence the sh*t your in just now.

Ranger v Kilmarnock, probably a draw considering the crap that is going on then player culls Monday morning (assuming HMRC have not petitioned to have your administrators removed), a poor run of results to follow for the club, criminal prosecution against Mr Whyte will also follow. And then the lid will be blown off Pandora's box signalling the end.
Sad.

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Whole world lol its spl mate no one knows no one cares,we only exist in are own little world.have alie down you,l be ok garlar07

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Most of your supporter are glory hunters? Why then is the stadium virtually a sell out for tomorrow. Celtic abandoned their club, we stick with them.

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Glory Hunters!!! You idiot, the last few years have been the hardest any fan could endure yet WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS!!!!

GDog
WATP

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17,000 v dundee utd says your a liar mate.artybhoy

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Why was it empty against Dundee United?

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HMRC to petition against the appointment of the administrators? HMRC agreed they were suitable for the job and as the administrators stated yesterday they are working for the court not Rangers!

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Why did 100k plus celtic fans disappear when Mowbray was manager? oooooooh best fans in the world my ar*e definitely the most fickle.

Mr Blonde

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You got beat..................again!!

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17 Feb 2012 02:52:45
more bad news check the sun just now about craig whytes advisor its getting worse no joke

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Any reader of the Rangerstaxcase blog knew about Paul Baxendale-Walker about 10 months ago.

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17 Feb 2012 02:29:16
Ed in your opinion please... What do you think whytes next play will be? Over the horizon with millions maybe? He surely can not be our chairman,his own safety could even be in doubt (in my opinion) if he returned. PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - no, I really don't think he will do a runner. I really believe he came in with the intention to turn things around, even if he wasn't doing it for the club's or the fan's sake. You make more from getting a club back on its feet or at least to a point where it becomes an attractive proposition to other buyers. It is not an easy job he is doing, getting a football club back on its feet is probably the most difficult business of all to fix. People are so emotionally attached, it can affect even the hardest heart when they get involved. Though I very much doubt he got involved for any reason other than the money he could make if it works out.}

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Ed I really am beining to think you are craig whyte,the man has ripped off everyone from the tax man to Rangers fans,surely you cant condon his way of turning a club round (cheat evryone in sight?) I am a Celtic fan but even I thought Rangers were better than that and | firmly believe if you take a straw poll on here ,Rangers fans would rather keep their dignity and pay back the monies owed than use dodgy if not illegal means to squirm out of paying

Dannybhoy {Ed001's Note - I am sorry, but where did I say I condone his actions? Perhaps you should learn to read before making false accusations.}

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@PaulRFC;he came in to do exactly what he has done.administration,liquidation,a pence in the pound deal with creditors and emerge with a new financial outlook and pretty much debt clear.i think he has been shocked at the level of scrutiny celtic and rangers are under.what he has done is not illegal,morally wrong,but legal is the way these guys work.i do believe he wants to be in control but with a much reduced spending plan.sadly its the true and decent fans who suffer as always.now,after all the pressure and stress i think he will be looking to sell for a decent profit.to who? thats the fans big question..........green jhedi

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Cheers mate.... I dont think he thought the government would be so involved an that so many people an so much media would turn on him.... PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - exactly, he has done this process many times and no one has noticed it. This is a completely different case, many, many people are emotionally attached and that affects things. He can no longer just go home and get away from it all.}

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He's no too clever then is he?!? This level of scrutiny was inevitable for these sorts of actions, even a non-football person would know. I find it extremely hard to believe he honestly thought he was going to walk in to Rangers and run them down like all these diddy wee companies before and no find his life made a misery with a media hounding and god knows what else before this is done. Far from some sort of business genius, the guy's heid must button up the back.

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17 Feb 2012 02:27:15
Lets hear it on Saturday bears:

SUPER ALLY, SUPER ALLY, AWW WAY AWW WAY, AWW WAY!

The guy is a legend, gentleman, proffessional and several cuts above him who we do not speak of.

We are the people

Tired bear

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17 Feb 2012 02:13:42
should craig whyte attend saturdays match with kilmarnock

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Aye half time entertainment get the lions in with him... wedontdowalkingaway craig+babybear

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17 Feb 2012 01:52:14
saturday will provide the perfect opportunity to show the rest of the footballing world that regardless of the situation we're in, regardless of the points deduction and missing millions from our club and regardless of the actions of craig whyte we are all focused on doing what we do best, especially in times of need like this....give our full support to the 11 men on that park, the gaffer n coaching staff, the men n women at our club facing uncertainty over employment. lets stand together as the greatest support in the world and get ibrox bouncing for the greatest club in the world.watp!!!
j1985

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17 Feb 2012 01:30:22
Craig Beattie to sign for Hearts tomorrow, i still say he would have done us a right good turn, even until the end of the season, and...he wanted to come to Gers.

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How can they afford to sign anyone thought they were near bankrupt aswell. PaulRFC

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They're not in admin though, or close to it.

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They're not in admin though, or close to it.

They are close to it, very close.

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17 Feb 2012 01:27:33
We'll not need a new name, but if we do, it would be simply Glasgow Rangers F.C nothing wrong with that.

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Wish people would stop going on about a new bloody name. PaulRFC

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We wont need a new name, even a pheonix company can apply to buy the name and apparently the history is entact... Not sure of the facts but read several articles that imply this. CheltBlue

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17 Feb 2012 01:14:01
It is being reported in the Sun that Milan Mandaric is one of the interested parties in buying us out. There may be something in this as there was an interview on Sky Sports with him not that long ago saying that he wanted to own a club in Europe that wasnt in England. It also said that he is only worth 50m but I suppose it is 50m more than Whyte. Ironically he just got off with tax evasion aswell. Dont no how much to fread into this though because all these rag papers would write anything just now due to whats happening at Rangers just to boost there profits.

AH72

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Really not a good idea

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During the tax evasion trial with Harry Rednapp, he was described as a billionaire although he would only admit to being worth over £100 mil. He owns a company that employs over 40,000 worldwide so even on those basic facts it makes him a more suitable person than Craig Whyte.

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Still would be a gamble though there must be ahonest billoinaire out there somewhere hmmmmm garlar07

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17 Feb 2012 00:56:43
Milan Mandaric states in the Sun he's interested in Buying us.
Oh ffs, no again.
BR

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17 Feb 2012 00:38:34
Peter Lawell is going to insist all monies Rangers are due are frozen from all the clubs until they agree to pay what they owe to their fellow SPL members. He is pushing to get Hearts, Dunfermline and Dundee United be advanced the money from the SPL against Rangers future revenue to help the smaller clubs.

I personally think this will be a good thing as not paying these small clubs only puts them under a lot of pressure to stay afloat.

It is embarrassing not giving Dunfermline their 80 grand, that would pay for their wages for 2-3 months.

I am a bear, but I do agree with the dhims ethics!! {Ed001's Note - it is what happens in England now, due to the Portsmouth, Leeds, Bradford etc problems. It makes sense to do it that way.}

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Transparency and fairness at this point is key. Scottish football needs Rangers. The SPL needs Rangers BUT on a level playing field with everyone else.
You need to get some leadership that act like true business people with morals and integrity. Only then will you be treated the way you want to be treated.

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Rangers will pay these clubs in time once we get this mess sorted

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Maybe they don,t have time garlar07

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17 Feb 2012 00:37:05
milan mandaric reportedly interested in buying rangers... thats all we need
1986jamie

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17 Feb 2012 00:16:45
If We were to fold and have to start again under a
new name like Rangers 2012 and Craig
Whyte was the owner. Giving all the recent dodgy revelations. How would you feel about being a supporter of this new club?
Just a question.

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Glasgow rangers debt free, YES

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Never going to happen the whole country's after him... Be lucky to see him in public again.. His work is done he's the villain the new owners will be the heros an whyte disappears with millions. PaulRFC

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He can't be in charge or club won't go forward.

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Mr whyte is still in charge for the meantime unfortunate it may be

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17 Feb 2012 00:13:22
We don't do walking away. Spot on and well said Ally. I expect Ibrox to be bouncing on Saturday, we need to show that we ain't going anywhere.

I wonder if the ex owner mr Charlatan Whyte will show up, frankly I would not let him in the door.

No place for quitters, no place for money grabbing bar stewards. We have had enough of these spivs dragging us through misery, get them out get the fans involved, never should one man own Rangers again.

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17 Feb 2012 00:01:35
9th min sat LETS ALL DO THE BOUNCEY spread the word lads / ladies

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Why not do it on 75 mins to resemble what you owe the tax man.......Stevie

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16 Feb 2012 23:53:17
Fellow Gers Fans,

I would like to say how impressed i am by sky sports news who seem to tell every side of the story unlike other news teams who just spout all the bad vibes coming out of ibrox. I really hope Shyte has the bottle to stay away and we find true rangers fans to take control of the club.

And Ed- who actually owns ibrox and murray park {Ed003's Note - Me,but don't tell anyone,Sssssh! }

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@ed003..... Cheeky ! PaulRFC

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16 Feb 2012 23:43:05
Just a small question. IF the police are investigating Whyte and it is found that money has been taken. Or fraud has been done. Do we get the 10 points back as surely this would not be Rangers fault if it is found to be fraud

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No you get deducted 25 for screwing Her Majesty for 10's of millions .....Stevie

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