Rangers Banter Archive September 17 2016

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17 Sep 2016 22:14:20
Crying out for McKay to be benched, another lack lustre performance, scared of a tackle and always comes backwards and lingers on the ball. O'halloran should start on the wing ahead of him.

17 Sep 2016 23:36:05
I might b wrong but i don't think MW realises how big an animal Rangers are. just listening to his pe-match presser on Thu got me wondering. he said he couldn't believe the negativity from scottish media (which is true to be fair) but then goes on abt talksport being positive regarding Rangers for winning 2 and drawing 2 of ther opening 4 games and being undefeated against Hamilton, dundee, motherwell and killie. if he sees that as positive then that's a worry and let's be honest guys if we wer sitting here without any league wins this season could we really complain?

18 Sep 2016 00:06:43
Totally agree wee Barry should be benched but I've given MOH the benefit of the doubt and said he should get a run of games, but after seeing him again today I can understand why he doesn't start games, he is lightning quick but should concentrate on being a sprinter as he does not have any idea how to play football or integrate his play with an attacking full back, sorry but I reckon money down the drain, open the doors and let him run fast through them.

17 Sep 2016 22:34:50
Facing goalwards and turning back on himself seems to be more common for Mckay lately and the groans from the crowd are getting louder!

What was that pitch invader playing at though, what was he holding up?

Maybe it was a picture of our last goal at Ibrox?

17 Sep 2016 22:51:04
Aye that's right bench the boy. in fact send him away out on loan again eh! Fed up seeing this young guy getting stick just like Alan Hutton and Charlie Adam did when they were at the club. He's young and consistency is an issue but tell you what the boy has bags of talent and his workrate at times has been excellent. Would have Mckay in my team all day long ahead of any winger on our books.

17 Sep 2016 23:13:16
Guys 6 games! League is over for us! Celtic will only get stronger! Surely yous can't think this is good enough! 2nd biggest budget in the league we should be challenging much better, apart from Celtic we've played bottom 6 teams what's going to happen when it's Aberdeen, hearts etc.

18 Sep 2016 08:27:03
Don't think Mckay should be benched but moved into the centre of the park he's powder puff out wide. Think with his ball control passing speed etc he would be more effective centre midfield.

18 Sep 2016 11:10:32
J 1985, All well and good but the team are not doing it right now and McKay certainly isn't, are you suggesting we don't drop him just because he's a youngster, well not so much of a youngster now.

17 Sep 2016 20:20:34
Credit were its due i thought clint hill played well today gave us a threat from corners and was unlucky not to score today.

17 Sep 2016 21:57:04
I clicked on here to type a short comment and you've said almost exactly what I was going to say word for word. Telepathy at work. Don't mind saying so myself, good post.

17 Sep 2016 23:38:07
He should b playing well, Ross County offered next to nothing and there top scorer wasnt even playing. I think i could have played CB today and got away with it.

17 Sep 2016 19:05:45
Will warburton ever change his formation why not try a 4.4.2 with a 2 striker partnership up front and mckay just slows the game down going forward instead of taking his man on and getting a ball in the box he stops and turns back on his man i think its time he was dropped and wallace aswell . think its going to be a long season ahead.

17 Sep 2016 21:38:30
Bigtrfc,
Be careful what you say mate a lot of sensitive souls on here who aren't in touch with reality. Don't dare criticise the manager or the team as some people think we are doing fine.

17 Sep 2016 21:50:26
Who can possibly say we are doing fine. Its a disgrace. A draw is never good enough. If it was a different manager you would all be calling for him to be sacked. Its a joke. Things need to change. And quickly.

17 Sep 2016 22:16:08
we are doing fine! mw has singed 11 new players and this is our first season back in the spl. you guys need to lower your expectations for this season.

17 Sep 2016 23:28:21
We are rangers. No lowering our expectations. Wetherer its Raith rothers or Barcelona. Yes were only on our our way back up. But to say a draw is acceptable. I'm not saying people should go. But to expect anything other than a win is not our way. Wether its ugly or good. Just win. A draw against Raith is not good. maybe they had 11 behind the ball. But we should be able to break them down. Change tactics. Its terrible. And as I said if it was a previous manager he'd be getting slaughtered right now. I don't dislike the hat. Far from it. But think maybe he needs to realise plan A doesn't work all the time. Need to change.

18 Sep 2016 08:41:48
Warburton signed 11 players how many of them are playing in the team so the players mostly featuring know each other so they don't need time to gel and get to know each other maybe its just the fact they aren't of any great quality as last year playing against championship players built up the expectations and the inexperienced management team are struggling?

17 Sep 2016 21:09:40
Ok 6 games in let's do honest assessment. we have mostly played bottom 6 teams and celtic and we have struggled big time. players we have brought in. pass marks to windass. well done looks a player. hodson looked good. gilks looked good but not seen enough of them.
Krancaer, barton, hill, senderos, garner definitely ain't rangers class so far and definitely are not starters in the team.

Mw and dw. well looks like there bubble has burst. there too 1 sided and teams know our tactics. its quite that simple. when somebody is soo predictable u learn how to win against them in any sport.

Will we compete for the title. no
Will we compete for european places. no
Will we get top 6.possibly
If i was rangers manager i'd call back hardie i'd drop mackay for ohalloran or forrester and i'd change tactics. 4132 whilst we have ball and 4141 whilst we dont.

17 Sep 2016 22:03:03
I don't get the Garner bashing. Striker in new team with three and half games experience. Put himself about and scored twice. He is not a Kris Boyd type bringing tap ins/ lazy cost/ benefit and think a mobile and aggressive CF is a good answer to criticism we were light weight last season.

And to add some fuel to the fire - I have watched every game bar linfield and American team this season and, while some are not playing to capability, I can understand why each of the signings were made. I think they do offer positive qualities we needed and have limitations, just like everyone we are able to sign at moment. Some will hit, some will miss, that's football but never.

17 Sep 2016 22:18:57
we may get a European place. but a top 6 finish would be good this season.

17 Sep 2016 22:46:14
Our basic problem is a delusional manager.
There is no gulf between Celtic and Rangers
There is no great step up from the Championship to the SPL
Keirnan has what it takes to be an English Premiership player in the future
If we don't sign anyone else ( central defender) I am happy to go with what we have
We don't need a Plan B, all we need is to do Plan A properly
Today was the best we have played all season
These are all statements from Mark Warburton.
Prior to heading to Ibrox, I watched the Cardiff/ Leeds match during which the Cardiff manager was praised for NOT sounding like the coaching manual. He has a plan A, and a B and C when necessary
He is not afraid to admit he was wrong and make changes when necessary.
He doesn't make the prescribed two changes after an hour as per the coaching manual.
Incidentally, his team lost.
But he sure doesn't sound like Mark Warburton!
Today our first half performance was awful, totally inept and pedestrian.
Better in the second half, though still too slow moving the ball from back to front. Wallace and McKay need to be rested, and everyone in the back line told it is OK to play the long ball from time to time.
Pace together with the ability to play the telling pass is the key to unlocking a team set up to kill the game and play for a 0-0.
Windass had one major attacking foray in the first half, thereafter no-one played a single pass to him which would facilitate such a run. Overall outside of the short, square or backwards pass, our distribution was poor!
And the response from the manager was the predictable double switch after just over an hour.
I can't speak for the rest of the ground but the bears around us were far from happy. After all this was a home game against Ross County ( no disrespect intended) .
And at the end of the match neither were the directors as a collective if their head shaking and facial expressions were anything to go by!
I've said before that I believe all is not well in the football side of the club, that the Barton spat is a symptom rather than a cause, and that Warburton totally underestimated what was necessary to compete successfully week in week out in the SPL.
In that regard l believe he has to change his approach, prove he is not a one trick pony, get results on the board, or risk finding that Dave King was not joking when he said anything less than second place was unacceptable.

17 Sep 2016 22:58:58
Massive budget way more than hearts and Aberdeen so no top 6 would not be good enough.

17 Sep 2016 23:11:13
People keep going on abt hodson looking good which baffles me, he played in2 betfred games were he was up against nobody so were people are getting this i don't know and don't get me started on the boy fi raith that everyone harps on abt because he got motm in a 3-3 game against us.

18 Sep 2016 10:57:32
Jason

Not sure if "top 6" was the game plan for the Board, given their time and investment.

But I am sure they will clarify their expectations again for us if this false start drags on.

17 Sep 2016 21:10:00
Apart from the celtic game we create chance after chance and it's only a matter of time before we click into gear and start putting some consistency together! We need a team and formation that fits the players we have and yes maybe Warbs hasn't found that yet but today ( even though it was a poor result against a team we'd be doing over five years ago ) I thought the midfield had some pace and some fight about it!
For me the lad Windass has been a livewire ( as pundits put it up here ) and Holt has to play in my eyes!

I for one will never ever diss a Rangers manager as if we think about it we all sit here as fans and say this one and that one should play but we don't see what happens everyday in training!

Yeah we should have beaten the teams we've played so far but the reality is we haven't and all we can do is what we do best and give the greatest club on earth or full support and that goes from director level to the guys we cheer ( well some of us do ) on the park and let's not forget the past five years and where we've came from!

17 Sep 2016 21:34:10
We never get in behind a team and over play when in and around opponents penalty box. We need a wide player who can go past someone and get ball into box (M O'H) and someone who doesn't play passes thru zones and can open a team up (Harry) . Surely they are due a start! I think with those 2 and Garner graft goals will come. Windsss is a must and Holt looked good for first game back, with Crooks and Rossiter due back this week I'd fling one of them in for Halliday.

17 Sep 2016 22:20:48
great post mate some people on this site need a reality check.

18 Sep 2016 11:07:23
Gmc86

I would point out that Kris Boyd has scored more league goals so far than any other Rangers player.

17 Sep 2016 19:01:11
i like warbs and his philosophy on the game i really do but i'm kinda struggling what to think and more importantly i'm scared about tues night, i'm sure we've got it in us to skelp a team and kick on but this we learned or we played well is kinda going on week to week saying the same stuff, but on another side i believe we have to back him big time as fans, we have to stick through this, only time we've been really outplayed was the old firm but we all know that they kinda games turn and twist everytime, so after tues the next few games let's get behind the team and se what we can do and warbs hopefully brings that hat out again and brings the magic back.

17 Sep 2016 19:16:19
Having watched the game today. It's frustrating not to get 3 points but I have to say I thought today was our best performance of the season so far. Windass looks a great signing and hopefully crooks will be the same. Of course results need to improve but I still believe in mw.

17 Sep 2016 19:54:33
It's a pity he never got the England job then he could've ****ed it up for England n yous would've had a chance of getting a real manager in. Oh well it's turning out to be a barrel of laughs for us. Tuesday should be interesting ahead of the sheep next week. They'll be dying to get there hoofs on yous.

17 Sep 2016 19:54:59
I really like MW and at least today we played better and looked more like a team. Tempo was much better and disappointing not to win.

17 Sep 2016 20:07:13
We were up against a team who offered next to nothing going forward and we couldn't beat them. We are now considered a joke side with a joke manager by the other lot.

17 Sep 2016 20:12:01
Steph i like the way we entertain your kind self and the now full parkhead faithful, us bears like a giggle aswell that's why we watch your champions league games, most of us bears know where we were and know its going to take time, we knew it was going to be difficult but i also think your support are running before they can walk with laughs what goes around comes around but hey you couldn't of picked a better team to talk about, we'll come good don't worry,

17 Sep 2016 20:37:13
I agree with stmonkeyRFC, hooly78 and fd, we played with much more tempo and purpose today without taking our chances in what would have been a deserved win, warbs should play holt and windass together in midfield constantly now as they look good together and bring energy, directness, pace and zip to our midfield, as everyone knows on here I'm a big fan of barrie mckay but he's not been playing well for a while and warbs should drop him and give moh a deserved run in our team, to finish with a wee negative about a small minority of our fans, what's this booing the team at half time all about guys, you're there to support glasgow rangers through good and bad get behind your team, I would never boo a rangers team, imo its most certainly not the way, rangers played good in spells today which made the booing all the more remarkable! If certain fans feel they need to boo rangers if things are not going our way the easy way if they continually feel this way is don't go, our club needs supporters not continual negative booing when not playing well!

17 Sep 2016 20:43:08
Stephboy I am not as impatient as some of my fellow fans on here, we don't have that money from strip sales merchandise etc because of fat Ashley, but can assure you, we will get back and it will be quicker and what you think .

The team are doing fine, Crooks, Rossiter, Dodoo will make a difference, have faith and if you booed today then that's your right, but to me that does not do anything apart from bad atmosphere around club which will affect the players on the park .
Get behind the club and let's show what Rangers fans are
like.

17 Sep 2016 21:16:43
No person is in a position to tell anyone else to stay away from attending matches. People pay their money and are entitled to vent out their frustrations by booing. It's actually pretty naive to think it won't happen as all teams have had their fans boo poor performances.

17 Sep 2016 21:05:12
Warbs15 good post mate i think most of us know we are doing all right, we will get there, when we think of weree we are today compared to not really known mw or his vision for football when he took over a championship in the bag 2 cup finals (winning one) plus something like 21 new signings in the space of 18 month, then people should appriciate it.

when mw took the job he knew it was a completely diffrent situation to any other he has been involved in, plus he has brought in youngster for the future.

he and us both knew it was a big big job, and although results like todays gett our chins down we will definetly come good imho, always remember the future looking bright, lookingg orange.

17 Sep 2016 21:34:24
What with all this negativity!

Using this perverse logic would you be expecting Super Ally or even Paul Le Guen to be given more time and still be managing the club?

Sorry but Warburton got a season to acclimatise to the club and we were told "not much difference between top of Championship and the rest in the SPL" - well that will be put to the test again on Tursday night AT HOME (again)!

Will you "guys" be accepting for tie to go to replay or be beaten?

Simple cross roads for Warburton (& Weir too) adapt (& quickly) or career, certainly at Glasgow Rangers will be finished!

17 Sep 2016 21:34:20
Brian p,
The team are doing fine? 2 wins out of 6 with more goals conceded than scored! What planet are you on if you think that's fine?

17 Sep 2016 21:55:44
Biffo316,I don't care what other clubs fans do! I only care about glasgow rangers and imo booing for the least wee reason is certainly not the answer and supporting your team, What does booing achieve? Nothing, that's what it achieves and all I'm saying is that if you really don't like what you're seeing and feel to boo for the least wee reason why bother going? Because as sure as hell in my book that's NOT supporting! !

17 Sep 2016 23:05:16
Biffo3166 you expect 11 new players to click straight away, wow you have some patience, I thought the team actually played well today, got to pull you out of the clouds as this team needs time .

18 Sep 2016 08:04:21
Biffo316,try concentrating on rangers instead of worrying what celtic fans think of us! You're beginning to sound like them as they continually talk about us, I don't care what they're fans think of us, I only care and focus on what we're doing, you should try it!

18 Sep 2016 10:37:42
Think we'll beat QOS more comfortably than is being imagined, 2-0 maybe 3, apparently it was a case of just not getting the goals today and being a bit out of it in terms of finishing, breaks up front.

17 Sep 2016 18:27:12
Warburton's son says we were "not disgraced"!

Do the Warburtons know who "we" are?

We are Glasgow Rangers not just some "new club" for him to "cut his managerial teeth on"!

Must be worst start to league in over 27 years - nearly half a lifetime - surely his days are numbered?

17 Sep 2016 18:55:12
He is out his depth and we have some really tough fixtures in the coming weeks. Only 2 wins in 6 games the kind of start you would expect from Dundee, Motherwell or Hamilton.

17 Sep 2016 19:07:47
Your logic would be spot on if we never went through what we did the past 5 years and weren't just re-promoted to the SPL this year. Get a reality check pal.

17 Sep 2016 19:24:25
I think people need to calm down a bit! Aye its not been a great start but we have moved up a league, have 11 new players, funny preseason and a fair amount of injuries.

In an ideal world things would have just clicked for the team and we'd have started well but that's not happened.

Warbs has basically started a new job when we reached the premier and I think he really needs to be given time.

The team will get better I think that's plain for most to see, if we tidy up at the back and br more clinical up to we will do fine. Defend and attacking as a team that's the only way this system works.

We have just not reached the level of consistency that we are capable of.

Haliday was excellent today. Barton might struggle to get back in the team if he plays that way week in week out.

17 Sep 2016 19:47:42
we have just been promoted after 4 years out! do people expect us to be as good as the good old days?

17 Sep 2016 19:59:40
Cee

He has had the 2nd biggest budget in a league that is as poor as it's ever been. Kilmarnock, Hamilton and Ross County are awful and have no money yet we can't beat them. The team plays the same way and it's clear the system doesn't work. The manager refuses to change it. we are too easy to play against and the team is no better than average.

17 Sep 2016 20:48:24
Biffo you never have a good word to say about anything. You are a negative guy full stop. Go and have a greet to your Mrs and give us all piece.

17 Sep 2016 20:47:18
We expect more; that is why we wanted to get back to the big table. Unfortunately the money from DK has not materialized therefore we can't move forward. Soft loans and highly paid pensioners will hurt us. They offer no value or quality.

17 Sep 2016 21:13:53
Biffo316, the teams you've mentioned gave celtic a game last season, even put them out of the cup, it would have been brilliant if we had got off to a flier this season but we havent, though we will get there imo, plus the new players trying to adjust to a style theve never played before takes time, let's see where we are at the end of the season before we give our verdict,

17 Sep 2016 21:27:29
Once again I agree biff but the warbs can do no wrong brigade will disagree, not good enough again. some might disagree but how many really clear cut changes did we make?

17 Sep 2016 21:36:54
Jeranimo,
I'm as entitled as you are to give my opinion.

18 Sep 2016 01:30:53
Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

Seems that those who can't stand people being critical are the ones that need to chill.

The team isn't doing well, some people are bound to be annoyed.

I'm not too concerned by the short term form - it's the long term lack of strategy both on and off the pitch than concerns me.

Manager talks a good game but looks a little out his depth at moment. Making Barton a scapegoat is pretty pathetic in my book.

17 Sep 2016 22:25:17
Biffo you may come over as negative but your views are nearly always spot on and to the blind followers, the truth hurts.
People can stick up for Warbs all they like but he is a poor excuse for a manager.

17 Sep 2016 18:20:16
First clean sheet in league this season at 6th attempt!

Congratulations but players better not rest simply not good enough again!

Let be fair ok for a "new club" but not Glasgow Rangers!

Warburton pull the finger out now!

17 Sep 2016 20:00:33
Ranger

It helped that Boyce didn't play and they never threatened.

17 Sep 2016 20:27:27
Biffo. Look at your posts last season. You were backing MW. So what has changed? Now according to you he is no good?

17 Sep 2016 20:50:44
In his Biffo's defence, could it be that MW hasn't improved the team?

18 Sep 2016 11:03:19
The signs were there last season, central defence week, poor leadership on the park, Halliday playing out of position as a defensive midfield player, no striker. We all hoped that the close season would see the arrival of a top quality centre back, a quality holding midfield player and a good quality striker. Instead of that we saw the arrival of eleven players without any apparent logic to why we signed some of them!

There is little doubt that we have gone backwards. Who on earth signed Hill, Barton and Kranjcer. They simply do not fit into the Warburton style. Yes we needed a player to replace Halliday, but Rossiter is more than capable of doing this. We still don't have a decent centre back on the books and while Kranjcer still has the ability he no longer appears to have the legs!

I do sometimes wonder whether in his attempt to bring in 'marquee signings' without spending the money that King has screwed up a team with some potential!

18 Sep 2016 10:24:55
Daillyrebel, mw hasn't improved the team? he got us promoted,2 cup finals, undefeated in s. p. f. l. all in the 18 months he has been in charge, we best not go into the 21 new players he has brought in, all signings agreeing with mw vision, and style of the game, don't get me wrong all these new signing will take a bit of time tomgel, soo i don't ssee a problem, maybe people expected us to click straight away, but we haven't yet, but imho we will only get stronger, once the players are all fully fit, .

17 Sep 2016 18:03:46
Really missed Barton today, he would have made all the difference.

17 Sep 2016 18:21:37
Being facetious of course.

17 Sep 2016 17:20:21
After watching the game or RTV in the Middle East I have to say that this is simply not good enough. For me Lee Wallace has been rotten all season and needs to be benched, hodson should get some game time . Although I felt we played a lot better with Holt in the middle of the park, this trying to walk the ball into the back of the net isn't working, simply not clinical enough and Barry McKay constantly cutting back on his man when he should be looking to take him on is becoming tiring . I agree that things will click eventually but we do not have time on our hands, This is Rangers, we should be taking teams a lot more than we are especially at Ibrox.

17 sep 2016 18:21:51
is warburton out his depth? 9 points from a possible 18. to be honest, i'm getting a bit tired listening to warburton. i think we are going back the way.

17 Sep 2016 18:27:40
Hodson in not a better option at lb, he is too right footed to play there! Good back up at rb!

17 Sep 2016 18:36:32
Tactics poor again today and another example of how limited the manager is. 6 games 2 wins 7 goals with 9 conceded. Unacceptable we will be doing well to be top 6. For having the 2nd biggest budget in the league we are no better than Hamilton, Ross County and St Johnstone.

17 Sep 2016 18:50:00
I'd play hodson on one leg in front of Wallace . He should be dropped. Simple as that .

17 Sep 2016 19:00:03
Lee Wallace simply hasn't been good enough, one dimensional and players are getting wise to his one trick turn and he just about got caught short with it today when doing it to lay it back to Wes, the guy has ability but like many others I feel he needs the shock of being benched to drive him forward once more. Warburton will be with us until atleast the end of the season so trust him is what we have to do, the strikers need to be more clinical, we need to be more willing to take a dig from outside the area, and we need to maintain the tempo for the full 90mins. For me MH did nothing again, the guy has pace to burn but no positional sense, forrester would have been my option instead. Hopefully a good game midweek and some goals to give us confidence, then we go again against Aberdeen, If we can hit form and maintain it hopefully this blip might prove to be a good thing instead of later on at the business end of the season.

18 Sep 2016 11:05:40
It is not just the fact that Wallace isn't good enough for the SPL, it is the fact that he is never a leader and if there is one thing that we are screaming out for at present it is a Butcher, Greig, Gough or Amoruso.

I would drop Wallace without hesitation.

17 Sep 2016 17:38:24
Need to get back to 442, its 433 or nothing it's not working, when was the last time McKay had a good game.

17 Sep 2016 17:59:33
McKay and Wallace are not playing well forrester should start warbarton needs to try something else is definitely not working big game next week.

17 Sep 2016 18:26:14
It's not the formation mate, we played great in 433 with Wallace and McKay last year! We would be having the same issues with any formation. The players need to up their performance levels to get results or better players are needed!

17 Sep 2016 17:28:47
Good point well earned against a top side.
Well well a lot of posters on here before a ball was kicked PREDICTING you would win the league. Anyone brave enough to say that now and bet on it.
You have Dons, Hearts and Inverness next its looking entirely realistic you could be out of the top 6 after first round of fixtures.
Its looking like the great Warbiola is not the great manager u thought.
Everyone can see the obvious apart from him.
That's your worry.

17 Sep 2016 17:52:34
Thanks we would have been lost without your insights.

17 Sep 2016 18:04:35
Thanks ger, well we warned u about Murray, we warned about green and Whyte, we warned u about admin, we warned u about liquidation, we warned u about warbs, we warned u about being in the big league.
Why would I think u have learned anything.

17 Sep 2016 18:11:00
Nothing happening on your own page today? still all about the Rangers I see.

17 Sep 2016 18:25:40
Is that all u can say "its all about the rangers" lol, do u even realise how lame that is.
Your worry will be when its not all about "the rangers" and u become insignificant.
That time is nearer than u think.

17 Sep 2016 18:32:13
Rayman

What are you talking about we warned you against Murray, Whyte and Green? It only came out after Murray left about how he financed the club and no one warned us about him. As for Whyte think you'll find most of the Rangers board warned Murray about him yet he ignored them and sold it anyway and as for Green the Sheffield Utd fans and some players were vocal about this guy. So don't try and make out your lot warned any of us about any of them.

17 Sep 2016 19:14:06
Rayman, will you stop posting on here when 'that time' arrives. Rangers seem pretty significant for you to continually post on here. Your own club/ company were shown how significant they are last Tuesday. Scottish football is fecked.

17 Sep 2016 21:28:14
Rayman, we were playing the team that knocked your lot out of the cup last season, don't you worry about our team as we don't worry about your team

17 Sep 2016 21:50:43
All the so called lesser clubs are rite up for it V Rangers because they would stroll into the SPL and challenge Celtic undermining all others. Will 3rd or 4th be acceptable?

17 Sep 2016 17:35:30
Just back from
The game the day when is this charade going to end we get beat next week warburton just accept it mate time to go thanks for getting us out the championship it's time for a real manager to get us back to the top again.

17 Sep 2016 17:51:34
Iv never been convinced by Warburton but we simply cannot be changing manager at the moment.

His reputation is on the line and as a result he has a very good motivation to stay, tough it out and find a solution.

Major mistakes been made with our summer recruitment. We needed an injection of real quality even if all we could afford was 1-2 players. There also needed to be some sort of long term strategy, which seems confused at best.

Feel Warburton has underestimated him tough spl is for us and us struggling to deal with the situation.

17 Sep 2016 17:56:36
The manager's future will be decided in the next few days, not with recent results, but by the way he deals with the Barton issue. It would appear that he has lost the dressing room and no manager can manage without respect.
It is easy for us to say to get shot of him, but he was lured here by the board and, if possible, he should be given more time.
We have enough battles to fight, so we should try to unite, but MW MUST change:-
1. His lack of flexibility on our tactics.
2. His attitude to playing MOH.
3. Get the dressing room back.
4. Sort out Barton's contempt for his fellow players and bring him back to earth.
Easier said than done, but our support are hard to please but still the most loyal in the world.

17 Sep 2016 18:28:00
He needs to go simple as that am
Sorry.

17 sep 2016 18:34:28
the managers future will be decided in the next few days is nonsense talk as his contract is until 2018. king is skint and cannot pay him off. we are stuck with warburton.

17 Sep 2016 17:15:23
first half thought we were excellent should've scored a hanful, second half we weren't so great nobody ever wants to get on the end of a cross and Barrie McKay seems to resort to walking pace 90% of the time not good enough positives to take from the game but the win was really needed today I fear the sheep now as if we lose there we are falling further and further behind.

17 Sep 2016 17:28:50
For me forrester is our most direct player why does feature is a mystery! Really need to become far more ruthless it's been a fault of rangers sides in many a year but this side has no killer instinct whatsoever and management need to take some blame for that as largely down to team being G'd up properly it's not just a teamtalk before kick off its a determination that should be drummed into players at every session and that clearly isn't happening! We are a soft touch!

17 Sep 2016 17:59:56
Barrie McKay is a waste of space based on this seasons performances!

17 Sep 2016 17:23:32
We will struggle until we have someone on the park to lead the side. Wallace is a disaster as captain. He is playing poorly at the moment and I do wonder whether the stress is getting to him. McCoy should not be in the team right now but he is not the only one!

17 Sep 2016 17:02:37
Didn't get the result we were hoping for today but lots of positives from the performance Rostand far more urgency about the play today

Can only get better

Need to take our chances More clinical next time.

17 Sep 2016 17:30:02
It's good to see someone isn't losing their mind like the other half of the loonies on here. Calling for the gaffer to be sacked etc. Some people think is 1990s the way they are going on. Rome wasn't built in a day lads. It's our first season back up and we need to get behind the team and the manager. The confidence is low at Ibrox ATM. Fans calling for sacking isn't what we need now is it. give the man a chance. The season has just started.

17 Sep 2016 19:19:29
Agreed mate.

On another day we would have been County 4-0, three off the line clearances, hit the bar as well, we played some nice football today and created good chances, once Garner settles down and adapts to our style he'll score a few i'm sure as well.

Need to keep the faith lads and back the team.

17 Sep 2016 23:18:30
If we were to drop everybody that's not been playing well we wouldn't have a game on a Saturday.

17 Sep 2016 16:59:37
Not what we needed after last weeks thrashing and i really really don't want to hear that we will learn from that and get better. Top 6 will be a struggle on this form. League over and they will need to give the season tickets away if they want 40,000 plus at the home games.

Not good enough. Again.

17 Sep 2016 16:59:26
Barry McKay sud not start he's been rubbish this year can't believe he starts.

17 Sep 2016 17:25:25
Needs sent back to the rovers.

17 Sep 2016 17:54:01
He's one of our better players. Perhaps he would play better if 'fans' got off his back.

17 Sep 2016 18:13:26
C'mon honest, the criticism is absolutely merited! He can't beat a man, creates no assists, has no confidence or desire! Watching him in a 50/ 50 sums him up, a shy wee kid who doesn't have the battle in him!

17 Sep 2016 18:46:00
Honest ger are you watching the same games I am. He does nothing in games can't take a player on at all and final ball is terrible I hope someone comes in for him in January.

17 Sep 2016 17:07:13
Hearing rumours that mw was not liked by the players at Brentford and that is why he was told to leave? Seemingly would not practise set pieces and would not change systems. Makes you wonder why he has not signed anyone from Brentford as managers usually sign someone from previous club. Do you think he shall see the season out at rangers.

17 Sep 2016 17:27:42
I can't remember his name but one of the central defenders savaged Warburton after he left- blamed his tactics and lack of set piece practice for costing them promotion to premier.

Could just have been sour grapes but Brentford wanted him away, which on surface seemed an odd decision.

18 Sep 2016 11:02:05
Lance armstrong, mw was not asked to leave brentfort, the ppeople running the club had diffrent views tham mw had, as mw never agreed with the other he left, maybe the ed could clear this point up, it would save the lleave/ sacked people on here know the facts, as opposed to sacked, asked to leave,

17 Sep 2016 14:19:50
really surprised there is no kranjcar in the team I think he just needs minutes.

17 Sep 2016 14:51:49
Id be shocked if he was playing tbh.

17 Sep 2016 14:56:13
Me too, he was hopeless last week.

17 Sep 2016 15:13:54
Minutes are not going to help him, he's as fit as he's going to get. We can't afford the luxury player in the system we play.

17 Sep 2016 15:58:50
there's being fit and then there is being rusty he's not had a lot of game time recently.

17 Sep 2016 17:54:57
Can't see him ever getting fit. Why did we give him a 2 year deal?!

17 Sep 2016 14:14:26
Anyone know of any live stream for the game? i'm offshore just now, can't get vipleague to work, keeps crashing everytime I load it up.

17 Sep 2016 14:19:19
myp2p, sports devil.

17 Sep 2016 14:46:44
Cheers cee, sports devil seems to be working.

17 Sep 2016 16:23:34
should get yourself an android box mate they are fantastic!

17 Sep 2016
The real time live chat page is open for today's Rangers match at the below link for you to talk to each other during the match
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17 Sep 2016 12:18:27
Hopefully we can put together a decent performance today and get our season started. don't wanna comment on the Barton situation as we don't know the whole story but whatever happens hopefully the team uses it as a reason to gel and come closer together.

17 Sep 2016 12:39:08
I think Bartons done us a favour. The whole team did need told that they've been Colin Nish all season, him included. Even the manger needed told, his decision making has been way off as well. I would have preferred it if it was Sir Davie who was giving the home truths but at least it got said one way or the other.
The players need to roll their sleeves up and make sure they beat everyone from now till the 1st of January, nothing else will be good enough. The manager needs to start playing the best performers and not picking favourites and names. Do that and we'll be fine, we've been out own worst enemy.

17 Sep 2016 11:06:51
Is joey barton new nick name Elvis.

Leaving the building without doing his swansong.

17 Sep 2016 11:28:23
Is there no limit to your wit and charm?

17 Sep 2016 11:55:54
Your on top form the day boyscout, your posts are rotten must still be hawf jaked fae last night! Utter nonsense his swansong will be after he puts broon in his place on hogmanay.

17 Sep 2016 14:10:59
honestly your banter is much better than your compadres that come on.

17 Sep 2016 10:41:22
I honestley think Barton has said some pretty strong home truths about formations, tactics and players and I don't think Warbs or Halliday liked it. Halliday as a rangers fan and abit of a hothead would be the first to react on anyone questioning the players hunger to win, and Warbs obviously can't have a player question his methods so its a case of get the one out who is against us. Barton has played with top top players and in big clubs and much better leagues than the spl. Fallouts happen everyweek in training, not everyone likes each other just like at our works and sometimes things boil over, I just don't think Warbs has handled this very well. It should have been kept in house and not been allowed media attention.

17 Sep 2016 10:18:06
Well for me a couple of things have been made clear, or even clearer.

Barton is not a changed man and as always is deluded about Scottish football.

Warburton is not the manager most of us think he is.

Now he could become that manager, but only if he is prepared to learn. At the moment all I see is a manager who thinks he knows it all. He knows better than the fans. He knows better than the SFA ( most of us do to be fair ) . He knows how to run the press. He knows how the Club should be run. The list goes on.

He certainly does not know how to handle loosing 5-1 to our oldest enemy. I a not sure Warburton has the mental strength and his recent comments are starting to show signs of stress and the season has only just begun.

This Barton episode might just help us. For him to come on Talksport unauthorised is a disgrace. Barton is only interested in Barton, so, do one. Off you go son, you are not needed or wanted thankyou. This might bring the rest of the squad together.

Heres hoping the boys turn this around and that test starts today.

17 Sep 2016 10:45:29
"Barton is only interested in Barton". Spot on and it's a bit sad that so many fans bought into the idea that he came up here to win things and quickly became a Rangers fan himself, calling his horse and slagging off Brown etc etc.

As I've said before Barton came up here because we are a massive club and it will help his profile far more than playing for a club like Burnley. He is using us and more interested in his burgeoning career as a football pundit than playing football against the likes of Kilmarnock or Partick. High profile bust-ups

Anyway, I'm a lot more confident now of three points today without him in the team.

17 Sep 2016 10:47:31
High profile bust-ups are a bonus for Barton as it keeps up his controversial media profile. I would think he's rather pleased about his week so far.

17 Sep 2016 11:00:17
his book is getting released soon too lads, a way of keeping himself in the press perhaps?

17 Sep 2016 11:42:33
The real disgrace isn't Barton going on Talksport to defend himself. The real disgrace is someone within Rangers leaking the incident to the media in the first place.

17 Sep 2016 11:49:38
spot on dawson, if it was kept internal there would be no need for him to defend himself to the press.

17 Sep 2016 14:55:16
He's NOT defending himself. He's protecting himself, there is a massive difference.

He was not given permission to talk, yet he decides otherwise, why? Because Barton thinks of no-one but himself.

17 Sep 2016 08:08:23
No Barton, Senderos or Kiernan today. With Wilson not being march fit and Clint Hill getting some stick I'm wondering who will be out back 4.
Why not stick in some youth.

17 Sep 2016 08:17:35
Wilson is fit for the day.

17 Sep 2016 09:34:01
Is crooks match fit yet?

17 Sep 2016 09:50:09
Did Wilson make it? I thought he was still struggling.

17 Sep 2016 12:46:25
Wilson available today and should start beside Hill. Crooks and Holt should get some game time as well. Dodoo will be another week a think the manger said.
Windass and Rossiter in the same midfield should make a difference. Also like to see we Holty in beside they 2 today at some point, lot of energy between the 3 of them.

17 Sep 2016 16:53:10
Scottscotish87 wilsin is still struggling, he has been struggling since last seasons kick off, lol.

17 Sep 2016 08:03:20
Bbc have announced a new mini series. The rise and fall of glasgow rangers.

Staring joey bartan as Cinderella.

Warburton as Cinderella's helpless father.

The rangers team as the evil sisters.

D king as the evil stepmother.

Scott brown as prince charming

Will joey barton as Cinderella ever find his lucky football slipper's.

Will there be a happy ending, or will ross country be the straw to break the bears back.

{Ed001's Note - not even the BBC would cast Scott Brown as Prince Charming!}

17 Sep 2016 08:23:57
C'mon ed001, never heard of kissing the frog and finding the handsome prince.

{Ed001's Note - ah so Scott Brown is the frog Joey kisses! Now that makes sense. Apologies, it now sounds very BBC.}

17 Sep 2016 09:31:28
should joey not be the frog scout?, that authentic french accent makes me think so ;)

17 Sep 2016 09:54:28
Iamnoboyscout

another rotten post mate.

17 Sep 2016 10:25:03
Really don't know where your lives have went wrong dreaming up these things! No even a wee bit funny.

17 Sep 2016 11:33:36
Feel sorry for them there, that was dreadful.

17 Sep 2016 12:48:12
Add it to the list. Iamnoboysout should change his name to iamnaecomedian.

17 Sep 2016 11:50:54
lighten up lads, thought you would be happy he's not playing, now you will see if that's the reason you have been average so far this season.

17 Sep 2016 07:19:07
The 4-3-3 formation (if you haven't got the right players to play it) is quite easy to disrupt/ counter.

Play in a high line and ensure the "heart" of the formation Barton is harried constantly, furthermore unfortunately for Rangers's CHs this passing ethos does not come naturally.

Today v Ross County, Rangers need pace as an "out", hope to see MOH in the line-up.

17 Sep 2016 07:52:18
Think we need to freshen things a little today I would drop Wallace on recent form but with the whole Barton scenario I think need to leave the skipper in just to steady the ship!

wes
Tav hill Wilson Wallace
Rossiter Halliday
Waghorn windass forrester
Garner

Like to see this team today with Holt getting a half hour! Things not going to plan ohalleran barrie niko miller could change it.

17 Sep 2016 07:58:24
imo the reason your conceding is your full backs get caught out of possesion in the opponents third and you have no pace with your central pairing, a blind man could see it, time to move wallace in one, your 3 in mid should include windass as he is your outball, be interesting to see if your mid plays better without barton tbh.

17 Sep 2016 08:23:59
No chance in a month of Sundays Wallace is a CB, he needs to concentrate more on being a captain. I definitely think he's been abit overawed and intimidated with the arrival of Barton maybe even undermined you could say. i always hope Rangers win but i REALLY hope they win with a few today so its harder for Barton to get back in.

17 Sep 2016 09:21:50
yeah i understand that about wallace Blue but he's got to be better than Hill and keirnan, also gives your other lefty a chance to show if he's got it imo, you might have a point about overawed etc about barton and if that's the case should he be captain?

17 Sep 2016 09:32:07
I would leave Wallace at left back, Wilson and the young guy on loan from raith at centre back, if warbs wants to see if he's got what it takes then give him a game.

17 Sep 2016 08:59:31
Windass i'd a definitely starter for me but I would have mckay in there too, no waghorn for me.

17 Sep 2016 10:33:47
Foderingham
Tav
Bates
Wilson
Wallace
Rossiter
Windass
Halliday
Mckay/ Forrester
Garner
Waghorn

I did ask a few weeks ago if the above team could happen - well it might today - of course in the perfect world I'd have big Garth in for Halliday -.

17 Sep 2016 11:21:17
I don't think wallace is captain material never has been but then again i don't think we have a typical captain in our team. it takes me back when Ferguson got the captaincy at 22yrs old and he would litterally be screaming at guys like caniggia, de boer, numan etc. egos and reputations shouldn't mean a jot and they didn't to ferguson but for me wallace looks intimidated.

17 Sep 2016 01:00:18
Nobody really knows what was said in the Barton incident it's all guess work. My guess is that he has said something about mw tactics or had a go at him in some way. I don't believe it was for having an argument with fellow employees as this happens every day in work places all over the country.

17 Sep 2016 01:24:23
watever happend him talking on radio about it should not be tolerated we ain't performing with him on the pitch or kranjkar so i say give the players from last season a chance not impressed at all with our signing policy this summer of needing experience certainly not worked so far.

17 Sep 2016 08:30:07
Hes a bad apple always has been. time to get rid.

16 Sep 2016 15:44:18
Fitness:
We looked the fittest team in the country last season and now we look way below average. Does anyone know why? I could perhaps answer my own question: poor preseason, introducing older players, players carrying injuries (Wallace), complacency. Whatever it is we need to nip in bud.

17 Sep 2016 06:06:05
Or just a step up in class of player is showing up the lack of quality fitness levels tacticall awareness as its fime playing against lower level players and part timers but week in week out playing against fully trained pro's is a different proposition. The squad and manager are struggling just now maybe the warburton project is failing.

17 Sep 2016 07:26:01
For me we lack leaders, we have brought in some experienced pros but in our starting 11 we lack real steel people who will boss the game talk the younger guys through games, we've good players but on a whole the team is abit on the young side for me! In a typical starting line-up we've mibi miller and Barton and Wallace with any real experience! I think in this league with teams being physical we are abit naive!