Rangers Banter Archive August 18 2011

18 Aug 2011 23:41:03
We need to play 2 strikers every game. Jelavic running on empty tank. Lafferty or someone else but must have pace and able to run at defenders.

Rory

I still maintain Jelavic and Lafferty with Naismith playing in behind. Naismith is a brilliant CF but not an out and out striker. Jelavic is a hard worker and brilliant finisher but he definitely needs support play and someone to feed him. Lafferty is a hard worker and is a direct player but is very very much a confidence player and seems to be less anxious with Jelavic and Naisy. Kinda like a triangle to an extent...take one away...etc

18 Aug 2011 23:28:55
Ally McCoist is a a rangers legend yes, nobody can take that away from him. But he is no manager for Rangers.
All you rangers fans going off your head and stuff because of other people's comments, GET AN ACTUAL GRIP. if it was ANYBODY else apart from a RANGERS LEGEND you would be calling for their head when they drew the first match against hearts. JUST BECAUSE MCCOIST IS A LEGEND DOES NOT MEAN HE DESERVES TO BE OUR MANAGER. SIMPLE AS THAT

If we lose at Ibrox, I personally think Ally should call it a day and walk away while he can still walk away with reasonable credability.

Rangers through & through but we are in serious trouble if we lose at Ibrox. {Ed047's Note - defo, we drop 3 points at Ibrox and all hell breaks loose. Panic on the streets - rioting, looting, domestic violence, people panic buying, innocents fleeing the country - the biggest mass exodus in history. All because Rangers lose at Ibrox. Gie yersel a shake son.

18 Aug 2011 23:27:34
This lack of passion and carefree lax attitude has only come about since the (better)players were tied up on long term deals....and I think that it needs to be addressed..I know it seems like a
long shot I think its caused a lot of s**t
in the club between players and maybe staff too
Id also say I really like ally he,s a personality
but hes not doing it is he?you cant be one of the boys and be manager tooit just does,t workso ally will have to shape up or ship out bring in Butccher
and wilkins I dont think Billy davies has the mentality either,the englishmen will do it ..bring in their own people and give them whatever they needI
hope you are listening Mr Whyte scotlands famous for econimists but england have better football managers to work in scotland they are more cosmopolitan in their attitudebutcher and wilkins will succeed make ally head of rangers tv or something I would,nt let him go also john greig is still there god bless him ..remember his goal against Italy,thats it ...sorry

18 Aug 2011 23:25:34
It will even out we will win week in week out and win if not he treble then the double and go far in Europe Matt McKay will get his work permit soon and we will get more signings WE ARE THE PEOPLE

18 Aug 2011 23:25:08
Ed please post...Can I ask how many of these so called loyal supporters are willing to do something about this situation? I'm a Ger through and through and pi**ed off about where we're heading. But lets do something constructive...NO BANNERS, PROTEST OR NEWSPAPER crap. Lets contact Ally ,whyte and club direct through letters, calls and emails stating our questions and disappointment after all it's our club and I like you will support Rangers no matter what. Let's get answers Who's in?? No protests or nonsense that makes the gers laughing stocks...please

18 Aug 2011 23:30:11
Ed do you think super ally should go gos I think these people that say he should are just inpatient {Ed025's Note - ally is a true bear...cut the guy some slack, judge him after 20 games, and you will see he will come good..

By that time we will be 5th in the league & out of Europe - we can't wait that long

18 Aug 2011 22:58:31
Rangers beat by Malmo and Maribor, Hearts absolutely murdered by spurs, Celtic unable to beat Sion at home and Dundee Utd out before season started... Wow Scottish football is as bad as we keep getting told. We no longer have any right to expect to beat anyone our football is now on a par with ireland, northern ireland and wales... our teeams just dont qualify anymore and we are in terminal decline No investment and little interest from outwith plus any foreign players who do come are only looking for a springboard to the premier league. SFA and clubs' chairman are to blame for the stagnating state of our game not ally he's a convenient short term scapegoat. Walter over achieved with this team and thats why he's a legend {Ed025's Note - hard to disagree with that mate..

18 Aug 2011 23:13:37
McGregor

Whittaker Bocanegra Goian Papac


Naismith Davis Ness Wallace

Bedoya

Jelavić

subs> Alexander Lafferty Ortiz Wylde McKay Bartley Perry

WHY the f*** isnt that our team this is by far the best team we have just now and the subs ive picked are 20times better than the ones fat ally does for f*** sake im 17 and i could manage the team better NO EDU NO BROADFOOT NO McCULLOCH NO HEALY NO BEATTIE NO KERKAR there pointless wallace looks a good winger all he wants to do is attack he cant defend for s**t sort it out rangers or we riot
{Ed047's Note - That sounds great. Only wee problems I have are Whittaker - suspended, Papac - suspended and injured, Ness - injured. Bedoya - wasn't registered because Boca got the wildcard due to defensive injuries and suspensions. As for Wallace, he was a big part of the blame for their winner. He should get his backside kicked

Healy i think would be a goal scorer if given a chance but he isn't given a chance so why did ally sign him? makes little sense... why pay him wages if you didnt want him that money couldve been spent on Miller, Cuellar or Juhasz

Another problem with that is Broadfoot was alright tonight, he did well for our goal and wasn't at fault for either of theirs. Wallace went to sleep at both throw ins resulting in goals.

18 Aug 2011 23:09:28
Last one out please turn the lights out. What an absolute disgrace, we have a very dodgy owner, a very dodgy manager and a team full of dodgy players. This is the worst since the days of pre souness.

The lack of passion, ability, know how, is frightening. This is not nearly good enough and I feel that ally should walk now. He is clearly not being backed at all, and despite being a legend the fans are not going to put up with this much longer.

We have a team full of ageing players, perfect example is signing a 32 year old on a three year contract. Is there not a 20 year old with potential out there? Although when we get them we sell them, Adam, Burke etc. The club is in a shambles from top to bottom. A large broom is required urgently. It is a sorry state that the worst team I have seen in Europe for many years has beaten us. Help

I think most of us would've paid for Adams train ticket to Blackpool when he left.... and by the way i think he's still overated
{Ed047's Note - I wish he was over here playing for Rangers

Its not as bad as you make out LeGuen was much worse.

18 Aug 2011 23:08:33
ally,most of the fans can see edu n jig are terrible,why cant you?lafferty on for naisy?hate to say this but bar his goal v malmo jelavic,s finishing has been nothing short of brutal in europe this season,i expect a 2-0 win in the return leg,ally aint helping himself with his team choice,tactics and lack of substitutions at crucial times.why cant he see the obvious?the fans can see it. {Ed047's Note - Naisy had to go or the ref would have sent him off

Agree with you about naisy ed,but to fire on lafferty who is nowhere near fit is plain stupid.if naisy wasnt booked ally wouldnt have made one single change tonite,unbelievable tbh.

18 Aug 2011 23:13:10
Think you lot need to calm down. if maribor were 2-0 up then you scored the away goal it would have been seen as a good result. as a celtic fan i would rather be in your position than ours

18 Aug 2011 23:06:05
Shut it all you part time "Rangers fans"

Keep the blue specs on, suppose you thought that was acceptable. Wake up

18 Aug 2011 23:04:39
Look at the Anderlecht team tonight Juhasz not playing

How many centre backs do you want or are we using the neil Lennon management theory of buying loads in the hope of finding a half decent one. Someboby with a tiny amount of flair would be nice
{Ed047's Note - like a Bougherra or Amoruso?

Yesbut we got bocanegra now so he's not coming now, think well be good with Boca, Goian, Bartley and we got Papac and Broadbean for cover. Plus 3.5mil is way out of Whytes transfer bracket :-(

And who cares he aint coming an why would we want another defender

18 Aug 2011 23:04:24
Everyone is started to take into Ally Mccoist like vultures on a zebra carcus. I wouldnt be so quick to do so. I blame a mixture of lack of investment by the owner and lack of respect from the players.

So far we have spent a mere £3.6 million on players (this is less than last summer), so much for Craig Whytes promised £15 million warchest. And you have to remember selling Bougherra for £1.7 million and Charlie Adam's £900,000 sell on fee which is an income of £2.6 million.

So basically we have only lost £1 so far, why can't we have another marquee signing like Jelavic last year. Bocanegra, Goain and Bartley should make three quality defenders if given time, Naismith, Lafferty and super Jelavic three great strikers. But apart from Davis our midfield is awful.

Edu is a joke, Ortiz is slow for a winger, Mccolluch useless, Wylde will probably leave after contract trouble, Fleck might go out on loan, Mckay might not be bad but he is from the less than decent A-League.


TO SUM UP: I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK FOR A PROPER WINGER, MAYBE 3 OR 4 MILLION, OR A GOOD LOAN SIGNING, WE HAVE BEEN IN TALKS WITH CHELSEA SO I THINK WE SHOULD GO FOR JOSH MCEACHREN ON LOAN.

I mean we have 3 top class strikers but how can they do anything if they don't get the service.
Any thoughts? I mean with £14 or £15 million why can't we get a good loan signing like Mceachren?
{Ed047's Note - yes, I have a thought. Where do you get this 'lack of respect from the players'?

I mean we have 3 top class strikers but how can they do anything if they don't get the service.

Jelavic is the only "top class" striker you have and thats only spl top class. dont say naismith is a top class striker because he cant finish and lafferty is about as good as samaras

We should be looking for 11 players that can run, no legs in the team, full of has Beens and people that never have been and never will be.

So its all the players an whytes fault? Rubbish Its almost the same team smith but, with some improvements. Its ally that picks players out of position, chooses to play lee, edu and broadfoot and sits in the stand with the suit on like a seasoned manager. You dont see Villas-Boas doing that do u? Hes inept, not up for the job. If it wasnt Ally McCoist you'd all be calling for his head, Paul LeGuen anyone? Get real



Bobby

18 Aug 2011 23:03:19
theres a ticket for all the haters to gtf and stop being so negative, all you glass is half empty,ally must go,whytes a fraud and wheres the cash, muthafukkers to do 1,we dont have to look at other fans making a mockery of us, all the arm chair internet ger fraudsters are doing that from within the ranks, get a grip ally is building a team he didnt walk into it , the signings have still to gel i have no doubt we will go through at the brox. the true blues will support the team from the start, and all the fraudsters will be blowing the dust off the scarfs and flags come may cause they are glory hunters ..ps to the latter we don`t need ppl like you 4iar iawt watp......biggles

18 Aug 2011 23:02:46
ed can i ask what u make of mccoist lack of subs,no plan b ,mccullch and edu in midfield no wyld or ness,do u realy think mcoist is realy mate ?
{Ed047's Note - I thought he should have brought on a sub in the final minutes to try to waste time. Maybe he intended to but Maribor got their goal first. There was no need for a plan B. 91 mins on the clock and we're heading back with a 1-1 draw away from home. He couldn't change it after they scored, there was no time. I honestly thought Edu was the best of the three in the middle tonight. Davis was poor, his passing atrocious and McCulloch? Don't even ask.

Good point ed,i agree there wasnt time for plan b tonight ,but i would have to say the first leg about the against the sweds there was no plan b and against hearts .edu looking bk did play well i agree but mculloch realy has to go,just getting abit lost in what mcoist is trying to do

18 Aug 2011 23:01:59
Why does ortiz play? I have never seen him beat a an when he has played for gers he's tycoon useless.

18 Aug 2011 22:56:03
Rangers' new strip looks to be influenced
by Airdrie's .. looks like standards aren't
too distant either ... :) (tongue firmly in cheek)
come on Gers, let's turn this around

18 Aug 2011 22:49:36
why is ally so muted on the touchline?i posted a few weeks back after the 1-0 defeat to malmo that he had that haunted look on his face after a few games,he looks as puzzled as mowbray did with the clueless look and arms folded on the touchline,he needs to start barking at em cause the dignified silence aint working,never a football manager imho

18 Aug 2011 22:46:17
yous aw gave me pelters when i said ally couldnt cut it as a manager. well unfortunatly im proven right. theres no doubt hes a rangers legend and always will be - but he doesnt have a clue as a manager - he has no disciplinary control over the players, no tactical knowledge and is making our beloved club a total laughing stock. whyte would be quite within his right to sack him now - on our way out of europe altogether and it is allys fault no matter what the blue tinted followers say.

Fed up with chumps like you. Get real what are you expecting from a new manager who inherited a weak squad. Give them time or support
Someone else. Mug
{Ed047's Note - some so called fans don't seem to have time. They want it yesterday

18 Aug 2011 22:35:18
Very poor Gers team what is going on mcoist switches Davis to left mid with 20 minutes to go. Rather than play him through middle let's go through the team goalie should never be beaten on inside post broad foot never a player Wallace sleeping at 2 throw ins the 2centres backs slow Davis never in game edu ma 9 year old is better and faster mcculloch finished back pass Ortiz Naismith booked couldn't stay on jelavic very poor game. The 3 stooges in dugout showing no passion mean what is durrant meant to be doing c'mon ally finger out concerned bear. As the saying goes follow follow Watp. Sorry for the rant,

18 Aug 2011 22:37:59
sack ally. At first I felt sorry for him now it's a bloody joke.
{Ed047's Note - He should be supported not criticised. Give the man time

Time? Time? We'll be needing to go back in time at this rate Time my hole, he's had enough time to realize things are not working and they need changed. He hasn't changed much. So the whole give him time pash is useless rehetoric.

18 Aug 2011 22:37:59
sack ally. At first I felt sorry for him now it's a bloody joke.

18 Aug 2011 22:32:08
Who agrees ally is the next Mowbray

18 Aug 2011 22:30:09
come back walter and rescue our season please

18 Aug 2011 22:27:01
Absolutly woefull 2nd half , the f*** was happening with theyr 2 goals 2nd one especially and 2nd half 4-5 players runnin on empty and no fresh legs put on ( what does mculloch need to do to get subbed ) Ally needs to get clued up fast in europe and as for edu ,mculloch broadfoot constantly gettin played together ( lot more than them we're mince as well eg davis )he has to ditch this jobs for the boys crap or he'll eventually cost his self his job thru his own fault and drop these idiots in europe they should be squad players at best am ness fine game on sat and straight oot the team for an unfit mculloch ye couldny make it up the team(for the goals) and management tonight totally amatuer stuff all our fans can see the problems they must think we dont know anything aboot game

A DISSAPIONTED BEAR

18 Aug 2011 22:22:13
Ally's lack of ability/experience is beginning to show, we played well in 1st half but when Maribor changed their tactics in 2nd half we couldn't adapt or more likely Ally didn't notice It seems that when we are up against it Ally struggles with changing tactics or making subs and why we are still persisting on playing Davis on the right when he is our best central midfielder by miles its unbelievable. God Ally it aint rocket science Ortiz is mince by the way admit the mistake and bench him

18 Aug 2011 22:19:17
The worst iv seen rangers play in my entire 22 year career of watching them Hope ally proves us all wrong n does the business but cnt see it Get big ek back not seen attacking football since he was manager

Scott Brown

18 Aug 2011 22:14:27
Lets just take a breath and look at this. 2-1 away is not horrendous. Its bad considering they were way worse that Malmo which is very bad but I'd like to think we can score a few next week at Ibrox. Let the story be told over two legs As far as I'm concerned Ortiz is never a winger. He has absolutely no pace but does have a decent touch so perhaps he can play in the centre. 2nd, Wallace needs to learn fast, the throw in for the goal had been played and he still had the other ball in his hands with his back turned Tonight, we looked a team made up of 400K players with the exception of a couple. Ally has a reluctance to make changes which needs to be sorted if hes to have any success. The game was crying out for a bit of pace so why wasn't Wylde or even Fleck brought on? Lafferty at half time but the guy was not fit and was gasping for air after 15mins on the park. Think some serious consideration needs to take place but at this stage....until the transfer window is closed and we are out of europe all together we should prob just get behind the team If this is the way we will perform it is not acceptable but at least give the new management a chance

I will put my house on it we will go through, listen am as gutted as u fellow bears but we slept 4 2 goals the heat did take its toll in the end, ally got it wrong he said that in his interview, but cumon u shuld still b able to adapt with change and we didnt, just a bad nite at the office, but we will turn this round i promise u we wont be that niaeve again, watp zeek83 :)

M8 al give the management a chance but thees guys have been in the game all there lives theyv got tae show a LOT more savvy than whats goin on(which you pionted out in your post) that includes the team because the 2 goals we lost WELL WHAT CAN A SAY WE ALL SEEN THEM (CRIMINAL)

WELL AS I SAID M8 WE WERE CAUGHT SLEEPING BIGTIME AND IT WAS CRIMINAL UR RITE, BUT I KNW WE CAN TURN THIS ROUND THANX 4 UR INPUT THO M8, ZEEK83

Sorry to learn of your impending homelessness, Zeek83. Hope a good samaritan sorts you out with refuge asap.

18 Aug 2011 22:16:59
Get Craig Levien in NOW. He will sort out this crap...he will play the oung ones

Forget Levein its time for Souness to come back and finish what he begun

Souness wont be given the cash, he's just as poor with poor players. We need someone who can see talent in youngsters and work with little money and bring success.

18 Aug 2011 22:10:24
I said 3-1 would be gd 2nite so 2-1 great result, ally should never be a gers manager, this is what happens when u buy crap we have no given right 2 beat any1 with that team, I expect jelevic 2 be sold in jan he is 2 gd for this team, only gd thing are celtic are s**te aswell, I fancy motherwell on sunday.
The gers grim reaper.

Al tell ye wit... the toms have there weaknesses for sure, but their playing far far better fitba than us.. and thats a feckin fact that im raging aboot

Poor excuse for a rangers supporter ,actually think that its celtic fans posting watp

We will only win against Mtherwell if we get some penalties and someone is there for the rebound when we miss them

18 Aug 2011 22:08:47
We need a striker and a flair player. Now

We need a lot more than that mate ... a good central midfielder to help Davis and 2 proper wingers for a start. Watching this its believe it was just 10 years ago we had gazza albertz and laudrup

18 Aug 2011 22:07:04
celtic fans protested outside parkhead for less

See ya at ibrox

18 Aug 2011 22:16:16
after the opening month of this season its plain to see that there will be no marquee signings b4 the transfer window closes.. why would any good player want to join this team of misfits ?? im seriously beginning to question mccoists leadership.
i mean, does anybody think that were actually making any progress

18 Aug 2011 22:15:53
I posted this earlier this afternoon 18 Aug 2011 16:50:17
Ally remember you can use up to three subs if you feel that the game is not going our way, changes need to be made, or if someone out there is not having a good game. Lets use them if we need them

why the f#2k did he not take my advice

Totally agree how fresh legs wer'nt produced is beyond me when it was obvious 4-5 player where toiling big time but then again we're just fans what do we know aboot the game

Because every player used in the tie gets Full bonus if we go through SIMPLES penny pinching again
{Ed047's Note - that was a joke, right?

18 Aug 2011 22:04:08
hope bedoya is as god as McCoist thinks, his job is depending on it now, and is it a coincidence that all the players that signed new contracts are absolute pish now?
why did we try and miss out the midfield?
davis was invisible(except giving the ball away) and our best player was arguably Edu.

18 Aug 2011 22:03:22
Why bring lafferty on and play him right midfield and keep ortiz on left midfield when both are more comfortable on the other wings ?

I was wondering that myself

Agree110% i said that when he came on. its getting beond a joke now

Allys not got a f*****n clue

18 Aug 2011 22:02:40
mculloch is trading on the old pals act with ally,walter couldnt see past him either,he is a joke

Agree mate the guys never a rangers player. with guys like bullard being released why cant we sign him he is far better.

18 Aug 2011 22:02:08
get wee McCALL in now he has passion

18 Aug 2011 22:01:49
Arguably one of the poorest Rangers teams ever, utterly devoid of quality, pace or flair. Ally's obduracy in persisting with the appalling Edu and McCulloch in midfield and with Ortiz, who is simply not a footballer at all, is going to cost him his career before it has started. In fact it is so perverse and lacking in plain common sense that one wonders if there is a sub-text of submission in the face of Whyte's manifest intent to betray his promises and spend nothing. Something is deeply, radically wrong within Ibrox, and I fear under the current inept stewardship on and off the field, it is sadly going to get a lot worse before it gets better. We need at least 4 or 5 serious quality new players and the courage to give our better youngsters a proper chance. Tonight was bad beyond belief, just horrendous to watch. The early 1980s have returned to haunt us.

Senior London Bear

Very well said i was there during the greig era it was allowed to go on to long then cost us fans that never went back i am now an armchair fan if allowed to go on this could be the same for fans now

must re-name stadium
must put up some kind of share issue

all that scouting
all that hours of work
all that training

for what?

Senior bear well said. this rangers team need a leader now davis is a great player but he is not a genral. this needs to be sorted out NOW. whittaker should be training with the reserves he has cost the club big time here 22k a week he is being paid you couldnt make it up.

18 Aug 2011 22:01:42
Fans on here are embarrassing how many games has McCoist manged and you want him out. Should take a look at Celtic fans and how much they stood behind Lennon last season. You should be ashamed to call yourself fans.

MainStandLoyal.

Blah blah blah
all your doing is taking the moral highground and standing by watching your team collapse.

you should be ashamed to call yourself a fan.

No bud, everyone has seen it.

In fairness Lennon had what 4/5 bad games as manager? 60% if not more have been dire for Ally.

And so it begins, thefans who think they are better than all the rest. Lennon had a voice, he got pi***d when his players failed, Ally sits there doing NOTHING. Lennon played players that were in teh right positions and were actually good enough to be professionals, Ally plays amatuerish players that to be honet are pathetic. We are all fans of Rangers, some more passionate than others and those that are more passsionate are the ones who are p****d right now.

18 Aug 2011 21:59:55
Allys record in charge 4 wins in 12 matches.

18 Aug 2011 21:59:34
Absolute disgrace tonight, season ticket will be returned or sold, if themanager won't fight for the team then neither will I

18 Aug 2011 21:58:17
A hole ally total clueless he,s worse than barnes and Mowbray get um out

18 Aug 2011 21:57:16
ally just sat on his backside because is is not as manager Was a legend know a leg end

18 Aug 2011 21:56:25
The funny thing here is i didnt watch the game but i knew exactly how it would turn out before, during and after the game. If i, a Rangers Fan in Aberdeen can predict it, why the F**K can the Rangers Manager NOT predict it. This was my assumption at 7pm tonight.

Team

The team would include Broadfoot, McCulloch and Edu. The majority of passes would be played backwards and when we went forward we would not pass creatively or with style. (CORRECT)

Game

We would at the very best leave with a 1-1 draw with it all to do in Glasgow but most likely lose because of our style and the players we have and continue to play week in week out that cost us millions of £'s and lose us points

Future

We will get knocked out of the Europa League next week, we will continue to play Edu, McCulloch and Broadfoot. McCoist will be released if we get knocked out and a MANAGER will be employed. Edu will be dropped, Broadfoot will be dropped and McCulloch will be driopped, younger players in Midfield with experince at the back. We will pick ourselves up mid season but we will finish 3rd in the league. We will have No europe next year as we will win no silverware this season.

This WILL happen unless Edu, McCulloch and Broadfoot are dropped and we play young attacking players who want to win for Rangers. This defensive "Walter" style works with Walter, Not Ally...get out of his shadow and be a man. If you can't do that and see whats wrong you need to go.

And to all you idiots out there who say "get behind the team", f**k off cos its you lot who will keep him in a job and see Rangers win nothing and have no europe next season.

If you had waited to the end of the game and predicted we would have lost 2-1 you could have had 2 correct ya numpty

18 Aug 2011 21:55:54
is it just me or is every true rangers fan wonderin y we all bought season tickets

No because you support our team when were winning or losing or what ever you support our club through good times or bad times no matter what but you obviously only support our team when when were winning trophies
Campbell

18 Aug 2011 21:55:10
who thinks we should drag whyte out ove ibrox by the neck for being a lair and a fake feel bad for super ally but he is not good enough, ally is my hero but he isnt a rangers manager, in the hot seat he is not a winner like he was on the park, hes far too soft

18 Aug 2011 21:53:52
Cue the get McCoist out brigrade. Pathetic most of you probably dont even go to the games. Billyboy1 Loyal Season Ticket Holder.

Yeh, yeh, blah, blah

18 Aug 2011 21:53:06
Lafferty and Edu were dire

Lafferty wasnt fit blame manager not player. name me one player who did play well ? subs are there to be used even if just to waste time n kill games. did we ? nope. most unorganised ive saw us for years gaps everywhere n might be wrong but didnt see ally doing much . TROUBLED TIMES .

18 Aug 2011 21:52:13
love ally to bits but he is never going to make it as a manager,aka john barnes,,really hard game at fir park now,,,cmon gers get your act together

18 Aug 2011 21:51:56
Right Berz, enough is enough.

With half an hour to go the team were devoid of ideas and looked knackered on the pitch, Ally does nothing.
20 mins left and were holding on by the skin,
Ally does nothing,
Davis is trying to do 3 jobs in midfield and rightback, McCullah is just not there unless he's fouling people, Edu has no idea where he's supposed to play, Ortiz is a grafter but is all over the pitch with no real penetration.
Ally does nothing
We can't say we have no players anymore, we have signed a bunch and we have some really talented young guys in the squad but yet McCoist gets all the old warhorses off the treatment table to stutter through another Euro night to no real result and refuses to give the young guys who we know can do a job even a sniff of the action.
I'm Rangers till they smoke me and Ally is a legend, but a manager?
I really don't think he is yet, and a club of our stature can ill afford a rookie cutting his teeth at the expense of our reputation.

I mean Maribor?, Malmo?

We have no right to crush these teams but we do have the personnel to beat them soundly but apparently not the managerial team to do it, and I include the legacy of Watty in that as well.

If him and Ally had a young Messi or Laudrup they would never have become the players that they are because they would never have played.

Absolutely agree with you except Walter part he`d at least had us organised. Tonight was SHAMBOLIC.

Organized yes, but ultimately doomed to draws and defeats.

18 Aug 2011 21:51:16
Ok mccoist this is not getting any better

Ortiz on left should be on right
Davis on right should be centre
Mcculloch in middle shuld of been on bench

We just didnt look interested bloody joke.

A never even saw mccoist shouting at the lads.

A loved mccoist wen he played starting to hate him as a manager and before you's start saying give him time. Its time that will cost us europe and alot of spl points.

18 Aug 2011 21:48:19
taxi for edu and wallace, also think big jelavic needs more support and service he doesnt look happy, just hope mcCoist pulls somebody good out of nowhere to partner jelavic.

18 Aug 2011 21:47:20
i hate to say this cos ally is my hero but this tonight is getting beyond a joke.the boy bedoya should be fully match fit as he was in the middle of his league season yet mculloch plyed you will get to make a few mistakes ally but not many more or whyte will show you the door who you are will only get you so far

18 Aug 2011 21:47:09
Is it too late to ask hearts for our money back for absolutely out his depth Wallace

To be fair wallace hasdone well in most games

18 Aug 2011 21:46:56
ally i love you to bits mate, but call it a day and walk before that nuggit whyte sacks you, ally wasnt given the money he was promised and now he hasnt got the tools for the job, walk away ally because you deserve better than this crap

18 Aug 2011 21:45:50
Craig whyte promised 15 million to spend we've only spend 2.5 mi on 5 or 6 players f***ing discrace

18 Aug 2011 21:45:11
get on at me all you will for posting this, but i honestly dont think mcCoist should be manager. any1 can see ortiz was dead on his feet at the end and i would have had wylde on in the 75th.. worst rangers team ive seen in a while and i adore coisty but i just dont think the time's right..

18 Aug 2011 21:50:20
Utter pi5h. No tactics, no answers to them taking control. We cried out for an outlay in Wylde and again nothing. Another sad night for Rangers in Europe. The fans that travelled to Slovenia, respect.

18 Aug 2011 21:49:52
One word that describes the gers tonight: clueless

18 Aug 2011 21:44:04
i dnt care what anybody says mcoist should walk now that team was thare for the taking. one up front not a sub in the second half ex big lafferty the team were dying on thare feet last 20min the mans not got a clue walter smith mark 2

Completely agree

At least we won things with Sir Walter.

18 Aug 2011 21:43:16
lly needs to kick these guys up the A***e. people pay good money to watch crap.

18 Aug 2011 21:42:53
Did someone put superglue on superallys seat?. Never moved off it the whole of the second half.
Sorry Ally as much as i love you i dont think its going to work out.

18 Aug 2011 21:42:26
I hate to criticise Ally, but playing Edu is not doing him any favours in playing his best team. We have been getting zero domination in midfield in all our defeats.

18 Aug 2011 21:22:15
rangers look like they cant be botherd

The heat over there is playing a part, Maribor are no mugs but we should them
At home.

I was thinking the exact same thing, i don't think edu was the worst man on the park - davis was non existant, lafferty is not fit and should never have played, mcculloch & ortiz are just pish, no idea wtf wallace was doing at the end but he played not too bad and im not going to slate the defence till they get a few games under their belt.. all in all total and utter pish. maribor actually try and pass the ball to a team mate when in possession we just hit it any where, tbh we havent been a passing side since advocate left the club - wtf do out coaches teach these players?

18 Aug 2011 20:49:29
big laff is back

Why does everyone think that lafferty helps us in any way?

hes crap cash in now before west ham find out

18 Aug 2011 19:56:17
What twins come in from man city? I saw that in a post earlier? Are they kids or first team players? Do you know Ed? {Ed001's Note - kids: Tom and Kim Skogsrud.}

18 Aug 2011 19:10:44
any of use blue noses know a link fur the game the night ??

P2p4u

Firstrowsports.eu/

18 Aug 2011 18:41:07
the gers grim reaper u r mad if u would take a 3-1 deafeat tonite we want to win not lose three goals

18 Aug 2011 17:57:24
Whats happening with the young Spanish lad and Rhys murphy?

18 Aug 2011 17:38:01
Differences aside all, This was posted on the Celtic Rumours site, lets get behind this.

We all feel for the 96 that were killed at Hillsborough, please sign the online petition.
We need 100,000 signitures for it to be heard by this government which must be hiding something.

submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/2199

Please remember to check your email after signing or your vote wont be counted.

There are quite a few big teams have this on their sites so com on Bears lets respond to this and put our differences aside for the length of time it takes to sign up. Thanks. MITK.

18 Aug 2011 16:50:17
Ally remember you can use up to three subs if you feel that the game is not going our way, changes need to be made, or if someone out there is not having a good game. Lets use them if we need them

I'd like to see Ness given some european experience tonight in the second half. Maybe a young defender as well, provided things are going to plan. If not, Healy has the experience to get a goal. In ally we trust. M

18 Aug 2011 15:58:58
Team Tonight

McGregor

Broadfoot
Goian
Bocanegra
Wallace

Davis
Ness
Edu
Wylde

Naismith
Jelavic

Nope

McGregor
Perry Goian Bocanegra Wallace
Davis Bedoya Edu Oritz
Naismith Jelavic

Can't play Bedoya & Bocanegra.... Bedoya never got registered

Bedoya can't play

Nope

mcgregor
bocanegra broadfoot goian wallace
davis mcculloch edu ortiz
naismith jelavic

bedoya cant play because bocanegra is the wildcard

Ness injured again, seems to be a groin problem. I thought this had been sorted out. I was hoping to see him flourish this season, but I guess it may be same old same old...

18 Aug 2011 15:24:50
i would like to see us going for the 24 year old Macedonian international Ivan Tričkovski.
done a bit of research on him and looks like he could be the man for jelavic.Plays as striker or on left so he also fits rangers one size fits all mentality.

Rnagers were linked to him last january aswell as continuing intrest this summer but it all fell flat it was mere speculation.

18 Aug 2011 14:37:47
Ed032 I have just asked wee pat for a translation and this is it what it says (honest) {Ed032's Note - where is the translation?}

18 Aug 2011 14:37:35
after looking at some quality signings and failing to land them,why are the players now signing either freebies or players valued well below the original targets?how much cash is actually available?its amazing how the quality of player we are targetting has dropped in a matter of weeks,quantity over quality?panic buying?

Experience and strength may be a key attribute, possibly. Philosophy along the lines of, we don't have a massive squad and/or a lot of creativity/talent or the money to bring real talent in...so lets use the wee pennies and resources we have to go for the sturdiest economy value foundations we can.

No world class talent, no visually stunning footballing and no awe inspiring signings but plenty of experience to handle pressure, get stuck in and enough of Physicality to break down teams via hard work, blood, sweat and tears.

That may be so,but why bid for goodwillie,verhoek,juhasz and an unfit cuellar in the first place?im not disagreeing with your point,what im saying is the quality seems to have dropped in the last few weeks,buying players just for the sake of it to beef up a squad for the sake of it looks good on paper,we slated shellic for doing the same last year,look how it backfired,they still cant shift the donkeys they bought,quantity over quality doesnt work.

To be fair, I don't really think Bocanegra's as bad as its being made out here. Solid in the EPL and an Internatonal. Just because we got a bargain doesn't mean we've got a bad player. It may just be an example of Rangers' low bidding tactics actually working,lol. Verhoek didn't want to come to the U.K and we matched Juhasz's asking price only for Anderlecht to increase it again, which isn't on. And Bedoya was always coming in, so he's hardly a knee jerk reacton signing. Give them time, and I'm sure you'll be happy with the quality that we actually have.

18 Aug 2011 14:29:11
How about this: What odds on Bocanegra scoring tonight? Im gonna call it and say he will

Also what odds on Hearts taking a draw? Am gonna say 1-1.

GDog
Aye Ready

I have a feeling that Hearts will do well tonight

Think that would be a good result for hearts. I think Naismith will rip open their defence allowing jela to bag 2 :) yes I'm confident

He`s 25/1 at ladbrokes

18 Aug 2011 14:27:47
wat sites the game on tonight? any body know, cmon the bears

Get it free on www.fromsport.com and follow the links,,not a bad connection for nowt

The usual mate...p2p4u,vipbox,chrome football

Can sumday tell me plz if u can order tht premier chanel on virgin or does it hav to be sky viewers.

Sky viewers only mate.

Its annoying we are selling all of the European games to this premier sports, i work away and can't get a boozer to show it. The laptop loyal again tonight.

18 Aug 2011 14:20:28
Brad Pitt will be attending Parkhead tonight to hire extras for his new zombie film, inside sources say it will save them thousands as there will be no need for make up or clothing

Well said but you forgot that Neil Lemon and Scott Brown are starring as main characters

18 Aug 2011 13:32:36
Hi fellow Bears, just a wee question ig anyone would be so kind to help me out. I see tonights game is on Premier Sports...Does anyone know if this free or do is it under some form of promotion or do you have to register/pay?

I can't see wether it's free or what.

Thanks in advance.

7.99 a month, just call to get it added to your sbcription mate, same as ESPN you can cancel after a month

StreamPro is another option £2 for a 24 hour pass

Thanks guys, much appreciated. I just thought I'd read something on here about Premiersports doing a months free promotion or something.

Can u get tht chanel on virgin or is it only sky let me knw asap plz

Is this streampro great viewing and worth the muny

Only sky unfortunately

18 Aug 2011 13:19:56
i've seen so many posts shot down due to having the opinion that Rangers have not spent a sufficiant amount.
I love a bargain and would hope we have the savvy to source good player at a good price.
However, If these players don't do well and our season goes up in smoke how many of the so called die hards on here will still support the transfer policy?
Let me answer that....Naebody.
So lets get off our high hourse and remember it's all about opinions, Remember that supporting our club costs a lot of money and in this day in age money is scarce for the working man, so is it not reasonable with a new owner stating that he wants to support the manager and take the club forward, with season tickets selling well at a premium, to expect the new regime to buy players of a better standard than we have? because your kidding yourselves on if you think we have done that, our squad in no bigger than the squad last year and we already have a few injuries.
Lets get behind the team and hope for the transfers to hit the ground running.
I honestly expected more from the close season and i think most of us did and i still hope for a few rabbits to be pulled out the hat.
And if any of the diehards tell me not to come back to Ibrox for posting then they can go and take a flying f@*k to their self.
BR

Firstly, and without seeming self righteous, it amazes me that a high percentage of individuals on this and other sites are unable to post an opinion or article without having to revert to foul and abusive language. Surely it's possible to communicate and express a view without having to do so.... anyway enough of that, because I know this will already result in numerous responses. In terms of whether people support the transfer policy or not, let's be clear that a large number of people are stating that they won't support the team ..... Although I, and others, may not fully support the transfer policy, we will always support Rangers no matter what... and will support which ever players' they bring in until such time that they do not deserve our support... but we'll always give them a chance to prove themselves.

Firstly, and without seeming self righteous, it amazes me that a high percentage of individuals on this and other sites are unable to post an opinion or article without having to revert to foul and abusive language. Surely it's possible to communicate and express a view without having to do so.... anyway enough of that, because I know this will already result in numerous responses.


Your correct you do sound self righteous and as you have pointed out seem to want some kind of response.
Foul and abusive language, well thats your interpretation, thats fine.
But I as well as others are entitled to express an opinion any way we like.
As for your post, what is your point?
I have said as much in my post, the remark itself is bourn out of fustration as people on this site, possibly including you seem to thing that they have the right to banish people from Ibrox and question their loyalty.
And as a Rangers supporter yourself you must have been to Ibrox and heard some of the language that is thrown about.
As for my post i did express my view without the language you mention.
So jog on with your single minded view.
BR

Well said my friend. WATP

Well done, a response without foul language. That must have taken some doing.... Jokes aside. Nobody is saying that people aren't allowed to express an opinion, it's the manner in which they are expressed that matters. At no point have I ever said that fans should be banished for expressing opinions, but as I'm sure you'll agree the negativity doesn't exactly help the team. How would we, if we were fortunate enough to be bought to play for Rangers, feel if we accessed this site and saw loyal supporters totally tearing us apart before even seeing us play for the team... opinions are fine, but these should not be aimed at the team when the frustration is with the way things are happening off the field, it's not the players fault... Everyone, should get behind the team even if they have issues with the other stuff.

When did i "tear them apart"? I clearly stated that i would encourage the new signings.
If you read my post again it shows that i'm behind the team.
I wanted my team to show more ambition this close season.
Also looking at your post you have contradicted yourself in your last paragraph.
It is no problem posting without swearing as i was only trying to get a strong point across, as most people do.
My points are valid and i'm certainly not the only one to think them.
As i said on my post, i hope it all works out as McCoist has always been my hero, but how dare anyone (not saying you) question the loyalty of genuine supporters of the club for expressing their opinions.
BR

18 Aug 2011 13:18:07
So, we now have a squad of:

1. McGregor
2. Goian
3. Weir
4. Broadfoot
5. Papac
6. McCulloch
7. Edu
8. Davis
9. Jelavic
10. Fleck
11. Lafferty
12. Wallace
14. Naismith
15. Healy
16. Whittaker
17. Ortiz
18. Bocanegra
19. Beattie
21. Bedoya
22. Bartley
23. McMillan
25. Alexander
26. Ness
27. Wylde
28. Kerkar
31. Adam
32. Perry
33. Bendiksen
34. Little
35. Hutton
36. Cole
38. Hemmings

We still need a winger and a good striker partner for Jelavic. Get rid of Broadfoot, Edu, Beattie & Little.

Bocanegra a journeyman?? He was at Fulham for at least 5 seasons. Your mental mate. Wallace is the best scottish left back out there. I will reserve judgement on Bedoya because i haven't even seen him play, Ortiz is played on left when he's a right sided player. Get a grip.

Good squad mixed with youth and experiance all thesepeople that slate capt weir are nutters the guys been here 4 years and won 3 league championships and all the young boys will learn fae him

18 Aug 2011 12:56:05
i would swap clubfoot for macmillan defo, give you boys the chance, theirs enough experiance in the team to beat this mob, but he will play edo, mcculloch and ortiz,

18 Aug 2011 12:51:51
One minute Rangers are missing out on 2-3M pound targets, next their buying from the bargain basement. They were never buying these big money players and they are obviously now dealing at the level they can afford to. Why put the fans through all the disappointment of missing these targets when clearly they couldn't afford them?

If we had went out and bought the players we have for approx 2-3 million each they would all be heroes wouldnt they, so what we got them on the cheap, good buisness in my eyes. Give them a chance to even play and then Judge.

Rangers haven't bought bargains, they've paid what there worth. It stands to reason that a defender valued by Rangers at 3M, is not going to be as good as one bought for £400k.

18 Aug 2011 12:09:33
ppl on here slagging how much we are paying for players just remind me how much did Septic pay for Henrik Larson and look how good he turned out if my memory is right septic fans were up in arms about that signing the very same year septic bought larson for £650k we paid 4million for porini we must judge these signings on how they play not how much they cost


Tony

Aye let's not forget that was nearly 15 year ago

18 Aug 2011 12:04:14
Suppose we better look for the "offending" bits then


O say can you see by the dawn’s early light,
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight’s last gleaming,
Whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight,
O’er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming?
And the rockets’ red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there;
O say does that star-spangled banner yet wave,
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

On the shore dimly seen through the mists of the deep,
Where the foe’s haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o’er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning’s first beam,
In full glory reflected now shines in the stream:
’Tis the star-spangled banner, O long may it wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle’s confusion,
A home and a country, should leave us no more?
Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps’ pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave,
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

O thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war’s desolation.
Blest with vict’ry and peace, may the Heav’n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: “In God is our trust;”
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave[12]

18 Aug 2011 11:46:48
I cannot understand the big attraction to Diego Biseswar. I watch a lot of Dutch football and he is gash He used to be good and was quick with a good cross but injuries over the years have slowed him right down and he is nowhere near as good.

I fear he would be another Jerome Rothen.

Remember you tube videos can make anyone look like a world beater

18 Aug 2011 11:25:06
gk mgregor
rb ortiz
cb goian
cb bocanegra
lb wallace

rm edu
cm ness
cm davis
lm wylde

st naismith
st jelavic

my team tonight

I think it is more likely to be:

gk mgregor
rb Broadfoot
cb Goian
cb Bocanegra
lb Wallace

rm Davis
cm Ness
cm McCulloch
lm Ortiz

st Naismith
st Jelavic

That right ally?

Your right wee man, Ally ;-)

18 Aug 2011 11:17:22
While I don't know much about Bedoya or Bocanegra, I don't think the criticism being thrown about on here is justified. We've signed an international captain with over 90 caps for his country and was a key player for his club for £300k. Can only be a good thing

I've watched clips of Bedoya on YouTube too, he looks a good player going forward and can put the ball where he wants it. Good vision and creativity, He bursts forward and does this wee sublime backheel to set up a goal, a great move. Bearing in mind this was in an average Swedish team so he'll improve with better players around him. I think this lad has a good future ahead of him.

nr85

He scores the goal mate

18 Aug 2011 11:07:04
Why is it that I read on ssn that coisty said no signings were imminent.. Then bang 2 in the space of ours really gettin annoyin all this cloak and dagger tactics.. Anyway weiss and murphy will be our last 2 signings {Ed047's Note - unbelievable. He's just signed TWO players on the same day and you still manage to moan. For the past month we've had all the 'keep quiet until signings are complete' and when he does exactly that you're mouthing off.

Totally agree with Ed047 on this one, there have been many people saying we should keep quiet then when we do there are still some morons complaining. Seems there is no pleasing everyone here

18 Aug 2011 10:56:37
Team v Maribor

1. McGregor

4. Broadfoot
2. Goian
18. Bocanegra
12. Wallace

8. Davis
6. McCulloch
26. Ness
7. Edu
14. Naismith

9. Jelavic


Subs

25. Alexander
10. Fleck
15. Healy
27. Wylde
32. Perry
35. Hutton
38. Hemmings

Won't be far off I don't think.

Ed what u think?

18 Aug 2011 10:43:30
What a difference a couple of signing make eh. Bedoya and Bocanegra added to Goian, Wallace, Ortiz and Bartley, Suddenly we look like a squad with a bit of depth. McKay added to midfield and possibly a wide midfielder and a striker to come in and give us the option of Jelivic, lafferty and another. We look in good shape. The Bocanegra signing really pleased me. He was an established EPL centre half for years so for a fee of 300-400k it looks like good business. I still expect Weiss to come in and would be delighted to get Jamie Murphy or Adam Le Fondre. I think for quality we have a better starting 11 than celtic and with the new additions our squad is getting ther as well. The only player that would get into the rangers side from celtic would be Kayal i think, Possibly Izaguirre but i like Wallace and think he'll be a top player. Man for man we are better than them. WATP
J1985

Aye hooper and stokes are better than naismith and ki is better than mcullloch/edu, commons is better than ortiz so yeah they would get in your team

18 Aug 2011 09:13:10
I hope all you part time fans are a little more pleased now it may not be mega bucks spent but thats 2 rangers standard players in the door taking our total to 6 is it now? Maybe now the numbers and the quality are up you can start to get behind the team like you should have been anyway and get behind Ally and the squad for 2night. WATP

I've been critical of Whyte but never McCoist. Just because some peoples opinion differs from your own doesn't make them part time fans. Yes we have 6 new bodies in the door now but why has it taken until the middle of August? I still think our exit from the CL is down to lack of activity in the transfer market and if you disagree with that then you should take your blue tinted glasses off and join us in the real world.

Our exit from the champions league was down to lack of options lack of fitness lack of sharpness and many things if you put it solely down to lack of activity in the transfer market then your sadly mistaken as we had 11 men on the pitch wearing a rnagers kit that should have been good enough to beat an average swedish side. Iv said this a million times no1 else was willing to buy us and we are in a far better state than we have been for years we are a buying club once again those may not be to the standard of the glory hunting fans who want to see another tore andre flo jus coz he costs 12m and proved our spending power look where that got us. Mr Whyte is a business man and is finally running our club properly as a business and not spending willy nilly. I cant see the problem of it taking untill the middle of august as the longer you leave it the better business there is to be done ok the CL is gone for another year but what is going on at Rangers is a re-build and it takes time cannot expect miracles overnight. So my glasses are off but you appear to be wearing the goggles of a police horse which is narrowing your vision

Mate your talking out your a*se. You've just admitted 'lack of options cost us'. I'm a regular on this site and a season ticket holder and iv'e never heard anyone chanting for signings the magnitude of Flo or anything like that so settle down ffs. I appreciate the fact that Mr Whyte bought us over in a time of uncertainty but if your the top man then you are in the firing line. Myself, other season ticket holders and anyone else who is a Gers fan are entitled to ask questions. Your delusional if you think just because we are Rangers we should be good enough to beat an average Swedish side That's not how European Football works anymore. We were woefully unprepared in terms of 'options' as you put it and nobody is to blame for that but Whyte. If i want to be critical of Whyte that's my prerogative but i always support my team whether we win, lose or draw so wind your neck in ya pleb.

18 Aug 2011 09:07:51
Anyone know channel / website to watch game tonight?? WATP IAWT

It's on that Premier Sports mate. Sky ch433. It's a monthly subscription and they DD out your account. Not worth the money as theres never anything on.

Try "my p2p" mate

18 Aug 2011 07:50:29
All the glory hunters who were slagging whyte and mccoist off go buck a duck American CAPTAIN for 300k thats good business. Now lets hope all the idiots stop all the abuse directed at OUR team and cheer the lads on to 4 in a row

There's a difference between abuse and asking questions. Whyte swept into power making all sorts of promises and the way he was going about signing potential targets was puzzling to many fans. The people that were having a go at McCoist should take a look at themselves. All Ally can do is give the powers at be a list of players he'd like. It's then up to them to make the deals. End of the day we are still out of the CL due to lack of signings.
{Ed047's Note - I'm sure the OP is well aware of the difference between abuse and questioning. He's right, some of the stuff has been abusive and I have refused to allow a fair amount of them to be posted

Maybey there is a reason hes that price?

18 Aug 2011 03:44:07
Dissapointed that ''The Goalie'' has had a mental breakdown, he was in the papers saying that we could win the Europa league...........i love the Gers, but..get well soon Goalie.

We could and there's nothing wrong with optimism. Its a long shot but, look at the teams left in it last year? Villareal? we should/could have beaten vallencia at ibrox last season. porto would be a challenge but we could get results there. I'm not saying we're favorites at all. I don't expect us to win it. But we should be getting as far as we got last year, every year.

Go to the hospital with the goalie....worst squad we've had in 20 years

18 Aug 2011 03:29:55
when is the big laff expected back? does anyone know?

Andrew the bear

Fortnight hopefully?

He is in squad just now

18 Aug 2011 01:43:50
7 signings made

Wallace 24 1.5 m
Mckay 28 300,000
Goian 31 700,000
Bedoya 24 350,000
Bocanegra 32 450,000
Bartley 20
Ortiz 29 500,000

I make that 5 international players for under 4 million pound plus 2 others. Good business rangers n keep up the good work. Watp

Transfers money in:

Boogie - £1.7m
Adam - £800k
Wilson - £300k per appearance so we must be due around £2m

So, Thats around £3.5m in meaning at best Whyte has spent £500k. Long way to go until the window slams shut but unless he spends another £5m he's let us down. Dont get me wrong i'm happy(ish) with our signings but Goodie, Juhasz, Verhoek and Cuellar were the main targets and worth a few quid and how many of them did we sign?....

How can you say he has let u down?. have you seen the tv screens in ibrox? the deals for davis mcgregor whittaker the 3 mil invested in stadium 6 new players 5 internationalists. bartley on loan with more to come. i know its crap to be out of cl but whyte has saved the club. if he had not took over there would be no new players our best assets would be sold off and ibrox would lie stagnant. think b4 u spout.

Misread and thought you said 29 and a half million for ortiz

18 Aug 2011 00:36:18
ed ? has someone took over the transfer dealings ? because we were linked with bocanegra about 2 - 3 days ago and then bam , we get him but unlike goodwillie / miller / hemed etc ... it took a while and we didn't get them ? things are looking up
{Ed047's Note - maybe some lessons been learned?

No, no one has taken over the dealings, it's just that they were within' our ''real'' budget, 300 - 400k, and we were even baulking at that......the fact is, the long drawn out deals were 'never' going to happen, because Whyte and co. didn't want them too.

It could be that there eithin our buget or we were try to get bargians bit now its closer to transfer deadline so we are puting in the right bids for players it wid be a good hing to dae because we are still abit of money crisis that will get better bit not over night might get a winger on loan and buy a striker then we will hear the blue bears singing chamiones for the forth time in a rowl

18 Aug 2011 00:33:08
Does anyone else think we can get shot of broadfoot? I would also sell Whittaker and get someone else in.
{Ed047's Note - Whittakers going nowhere yet. We had the chance and I personally would have been delighted to accept Bursaspor's first offer

Agree with ed.., but we are stuck with Whitts, and nobody is going to relleive us of his 22k+ wages and give us dosh.....hope i'm wrong, but i think we've done our b**** in on that one.

If he plays, it's got to be right mid, because it's not news that he cannae defend
{Ed047's Note - it's the only place for him (other than the bench). At least when he gives the ball away in midfield, we wouldn't be left exposed like we are when he's at full back and charging forward like a headless chicken

Ortiz should be playing rm whittaker should be in reserves broadfoot is a better defender

I rate whitty to an extent, i just think he's had a bad start to the season (awful, awful start really). I agree that he's at times a liability in defence, but i wish he'd cut out all this dribbling in dangerous positions bulls**t and just cleared the ball. I think his higher wages have gotten to his head and he thinks he becomes a better player because of it. I'd be happy to see him sit on the bench for a few more weeks until he realises he doesn't need to impress us, just do his job.

18 Aug 2011 00:14:35
now everyone can get off whyte's back he has paid for another 2 signings so he surely has proved he has got money watp
{Ed047's Note - no chance, some people are only happy when they're moaning

Well said mate. That's 7 signings. Yeah sure we ain't spent 4 or 5 mill on anyone but we don't need to. I'm thinking they will pull out a good striker before to long. I think that's all we need.

Whiiiit, i could have paid for them from my piggy bank......Bedoya will get 'battered' in the SPL Beasley was harder, my mate is a journalist in Sweden, met up with him at Malmo home and away, said Bedoya is ''quite a nice'' player, but will not hack it in the SPL......hope he's wrong, but that's his verdict.
{Ed047's Note - if your mate says he won't hack it, then that's that. Wish he'd told Ally before he signed him

Not slagging the signings but spending 700k on 2 players wont stop people moaning about the spending, im happy with these 2 at that price but surely we can now spend a bit more on a good winger and forward to finish the team of

Don't think Ally would have listened eh just a comment from a guy who watches Swedish football every week, let's wait and see

Hes paid 700000 for two? surely thats a sign hes not got much

18 Aug 2011 00:00:14
w.a.t.p
we aint tax payers

Go to bed timothy. Are you having nightmares because Fraser Frankenkeepers coming back. Is that 3 good signings gers have had today?

Jesus timmy that's weeks old. Feck off.

17 Aug 2011 23:56:49
Glasgow Rangers has grabbed the unofficial title of Team America on Wednesday after making U.S. national team captain the second American to sign with the Scottish club champions on Wednesday.

Bocanegra joins Rangers via transfer from St. Etientte, and could be in action as soon as Thursday. His signing came on the same day Rangers announced the acquisition of U.S. national team midfielder Alejandro Bedoya.

Bocanegra, Bedoya and Maurice Edu will now team up to try and help Rangers advance in Europa League as well as win another Scottish League title.

With three U.S. players on the books, Rangers has the most Americans of any European squad.

Go buy a Rangers jersey folks.hhaha the Yanks are loving it... USA USA USA

Were was this taken from or did you just write it ....bigt

Hey I said that was whytes ploy in a post earlier.
USA USA.

Will we be playing in the oreo Ibowl arena next season? Don't mind as long as we get our offence sorted.

I got sent it on Facebook from an American, soccerbyives.net is the site its from

Must have written it. St etienne is spelled wrong.

He put the site it's from up... and it is there Timothy. Bedoya, Bocanegra & Lurch returns to selick, what a great day this has been.

Thank you and goodnight

I fell in to a burning ring of fire i went down down down and the flames they got higher and it burned burned burned that ring of fire that ring of fire. yyyyyyyyyyeeea haaa.