Rangers Banter Archive May 18 2013

 

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18 May 2013 16:27:01
Mather backs McCoist, that's all the proof I need, Rangers are rotten to the core just like Alistair Johnstone said. Nearly 40 years of supporting Rangers is over I will not renew my ST or buy another piece of merchandise. I never thought Ally McCoist would turn out to be the man who ruined Rangers for me, I hope he is treated with the contempt he deserves once his blatantly obvious part in all this is clear enough for even the most blue of tinted glasses to see.

Devastated ex Bear

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You become a disgruntled bear but never an ex bear sorry son your in till we win it. its always darkest before the dawn

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So much for McCoist cleanse the club and Smith if Malcolm Murray goes i'm going.

Looks like both are sell outs.

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Mather is just trying to ingratiate himself with the fans.
He is doing everything to make sure that the season tickets are taken up.
I hope that this independent report will not be a whitewash.
McCoist needs to make sure he is not being manipulated into helping the spivs take their pound of flesh.

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18 May 2013 17:46:55
I have been a rangers supporter just over 40 years but I will never blame a manager for all the faults in a team. iam old enough to remember fergie getting stick at man u and ally getting stick as a player both came good. the signings he made in the summer I would of backed to be able to handle 3 div football granted some of the tactics I would not of implemented but the result in end was div 3 champions I would give ally one more year and then make up my mind just my opinion. bri blue

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Les if you really think OP is a gers fan then you are as daft as him. he's DEVASTATED because Mather backs Ally and says he's been a fan for 40 years, well I've seen some things in my time (Im 52) at Rangers but nothing like I've seen in the last year, and Gers fans attacking Ally at this time devastates ME! How many fans on this site are actually Rangers fans?

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Tend to agree with poster 5]. I've been a fan for 55 plus years and the negativity on this site astounds me. Personally I don't think Ally is the man to take us forward but don't question his loyalty to the club. Far too many on here just try to stir it and I doubt if they support our great club.
billyb

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So unless we ally is pure brilliant man, or we are the people we are not rangers fans?! No guys you are not the rangers fans you are the guys keeping us in the dauldrums, who will just eat anything 'super' ally has to say up and ask no questions. You have been a fan for 55 years?! Well act your age and don't take this nonsense. Yes we are a great club and we deserve better. Or have we just to accept miss mangement, a gang hut like Murray park full of ally's pals all because this guy scored a few goals 20 years ago and says everything you want to hear?!Grow up.

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Les (post 1) always comes up with something positive. Can I ask Les, how close to the dawn do you think we are? Just that it's been a long dark night so far.
wee willie

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Im not just blaming the manger, people who call people "tims" for expressing their displeasure at the state of the club are equally responsible, they are the ones queueing up to fund these crooks, enjoy next season you REAL Rangers supporters. what a joke!

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N. o 5 i, ve been round the houses with this just like everyone else. and yip i, ve claimed to be an ex fan in the greig era
the day big craig Patterson was made captain of Rangers I said to myself i'm an ex fan. Christ he would walk into this side, i, ve thought of just buying at the gate next season, I've thought of just giving my supporters bus my money and just going to the grapes for a drink
i, ve thought of a lot of things
but over those years rangers have been a big thing in my life
I can hang on for a few years yet
as a thank you to the fans and the club and my supporters bus, because loyalty is just not in the good times
i thought it would be hard. just not this hard, did, nt think we would be blackmailed
did, nt think ally would be so poor
did, nt think that anyone who came in would not have the best interests of the club at heart
did, nt think we would need to make these choices
but here we are

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Well said 5 and 6. I've followed Rangers since 1957 and can't beleive some of the comments by so called supporters. GB72

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@10 Les

I admire your honesty and I don't think that honesty and loyalty are necessarily incompatible.
We can continue to support the club whilst being constructively critical of the way it is being managed.
Unfortunately, if we continue to follow without questioning, and without a counter-strategy, then we will be led down a blind alley with nothing left of our club.

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@ 5 can't a rangers fan not have a say about ally then, or must they clarify it with you first

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Agree with the points made by 4, 5, &6.

#7 &9. Can't see any logic at all with your sweeping comments. There may well be a tiny minority of fans feeling like you, but i'll bet there are more "non- Rangers" supporters voicing the same opinion. Or even starting the negative propaganda which sucks weak willed people like you in. If you are a Rangers supporter you should have more fire and
fight inside of you than you appear to be displaying. Decisions and comments like "I won't be back" are yours to make, but why thrust them on the rest of the fans labelling them as a hindrance? The only thing statements like that promote are negativity and friction at a time when the club needs strength and unity. Or are you just of the fairweather supporters type or glory hunters who only "follow- follow" when the the times are good? That's how it comes across. Perhaps you can expand on your reasons for throwing in the towel? The club certainly does not need weak willed individuals when the going gets tough.
#9 is correct, you cannot blame the manager, so why the clamour to get him out the door?
Again this sounds like a comment that a non bear would make, because the other side of the city would like nothing more than to see the back of AM, in the same way as we would love to see the back of NL. Not so much for what he possesses as a manager, because I personally don't really rate "The bringer of thunder" all that highly. It is more of a symbollic nature. I also am of the opinion that Ally hasn't really been given a real opportunity you can hardly say that he's been blessed with or had a totally "hands free" approach in relation to doing his job.
He may well turn out to be lacking, but at least he deserves the chance to fail.
Not interested in the Ally blew it merchants either, he never, circumstances dictated that also. If you can't accept that then that's your predicament.
P. O. B.

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POB. Who knows maybe you're a Celtic man who wants to encourage Rangers fans to suport a manager who is clearly third rate and has little chance of closing the footballing gap between the two teams. I wish folk like you who supported Green all the way would stop telling other fans what they should or should not be allowed to say.

Your track record proves you're not actually woth listening to.

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PB what would that symbolic nature be then, his religion, your proving yourself to be a bigot, the guy at 15 is right, your not worth listening to
Tam

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@15.
And yet another unnamed poster, definitely from the other side.
Why don't you register, or supply a name for future reference?
As for your attempted backing of Green jibe, lol, i'll thnk you'll find he was backed by a significant number of bears, in fact does £22 million sound about right?
Other than that, good post.

P. O. B.

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19 May 2013 17:30:25
TBH most of my Cektic mates genuinely want Ally to stay just as I was gutted when Mowbray got his jotters from Parkhead.

And for the aw the ones saying Ally must stay let's face facts if Alex Fergusson exressed an interest in taking on the Rangers job 99. 99 % of bears would be tellling Ally to stand down and praying Sir Alex was given the gig without a thought about loyalty!

Irvine

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@Tam -
There you go with the Bigoted card again. Where in my post is there a bigoted comment?
Correct there is none,.
Yet more negative propaganda from the dark side.
At least you left a name. Well done.

P. O. B.

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@19: irony from you in that there was no 'propaganda' in the post you claimed there was, after you asking for evidence of bigotry. Where is this propaganda?

You're one of the worst on here for assuming if anyone has an opinion you don't like or is critical of the club, they must be Celtic fans. You're so bitter that you can't even type Celtic at times, instead preferring to refer to 'the dark side' etc. How can you expect anyone to take you seriously when your posts are repetitive and short-sighted, and often blinkered and immature?

You do seem to post Plenty. Of. Bull.

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We wullie
no think there, s more crap to come out yet, a lot more, I think the season books will go down there, s no doubt about that and we, ll need to take the flack for that. there, s what will happen if the share money runs out. more pressure on the back room staff who just don't have it, the announcements on green and the takeover the leaks
the backroom staff and the board will test our Loyalty greatly
changes that's needed King to come in and steady the ship
total re-jig of backroom staff
a bit more forward thinking in who comes in from the playing staff
miller, novo, boyd, no
backroom staff i, d sweep them away and move ally upstairs
but wullie its still pitch dark outside
and in the greig era it seemed to go on forever. think we have another season of this pal but we must remain loyal

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P. O. B. you said what i'm not articulate enough to write. @13 no you don't have to check with me or anyone else before expressing your opinion but have you read the OP? He says Ally should be "treated with the contempt he deserves". What? Why does he deserve to be treated with contempt? Answer me that. He also says he's devastated that he's got the support of the board. Not all Gers fans rate ally as a manager but I could not name you one, not one, who would treat him with contempt.

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N. o 12 stephen
if we keep going things will pan out naturally. if those around us keep letting us down then thing will happen
allys flat football, the self distruct of the board folk will stop going
if something clicks next season on the pitch and the flat football stops
and there's a re-jig on the board
maybe we can move forward
i thought with the fans money there would be move forward from the club there has not
and now I think is what do I do if they need more when i, ve been let down by ally and the board, a board of squabaling kids, and a backroom of people who can only solve anything throu money

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@14/P. O. B you are clearly a better rangers fan than all of us so well done! Ally derives a chance to fail? I thought he's had that for the last 2 years, so you mean me deserves another chance to fail. And at no pint did I say I will stop going or stop supporting the club. I will always support the club but Ally McCoist is not the club he's just a poor manager and the club will still be there and so will I long after he's got his p45. We don't have to accept everything just because its happening at he club, you can still be a supporter and not agree with how the club is managed. And I'll save you a reply P. O. B, "this guys a tim!" We know that's all you have in your locker!

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18 May 2013 09:57:58
Two things this morning, Neil Lennon stating we can't afford to lose hearts following the loss of "Scotlands second biggest club" Do me a favour Neil stick to last years script and give no comment and when Hearts are relegated will that be another nail in the SPL coffin? or is the rule book being rewritten yet again. PB

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Had a sense of humour by-pass, OP.
Al

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Who cares what he thinks. His views are irrelevant

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Op,

Get a sense of humour, mr Lennon clearly has one. as he knows his club will always be 2nd best in Scotland, unless someone else comes up with a serious challenge.

WWTC.

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Us fans do have a sense of humour what he's only interested in his team and people wonder why he's not liked a can say for sure past celtic managers like burns McNeil stein wouldn't act as childish as him

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@5 EH did McNeil not put his 9 fingers up when they lost the cup. get a funny bone FFs
Tam

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@5. Why is NL acting "childish". Do you want him to say that you are the biggest club in Scotland. Every Celtic fan knows that Celtic are thae biggest and best. Just the same as every The Rangers fans think likewise. Lighten up and don't take things so personal. If NL solved world peace you would still find fault with him. It's only banter. DH

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18 May 2013 16:35:00
The truth be told the spl cannot afford to lose Hearts as the sorry state of scottish football will mean the interest in our game will cease to exist and not one bookies in the country will back a one horse race, and no tv will pay to watch it. bri blue

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5 you lot have tried to trash big jock as well with the crap let's face it if lennon was english he wouldn't get half the stick he gets wind yer heads in it was ment in jest mm

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Its banter that causes problems and issue's will he never learn to keep his mouth shut.

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@6 how can you solve world peace?

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@9. At least he doesn't sneakily whispers it into opposing managers ears then run away. DH

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@6 mate my whole family and quite a few friends are celtic fans and even they are disgusted with what Lennon says and does so its not just the gers fans every opportunity he get he has a dig and if you think that acceptable then your just as narrow minded as him and people most fans in Scotland don't like your fans included

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@8 well me personally a don't say anything about jock stein mate because that saying big jock you know rest the crime it refers to the most disgust crime in this world please post this ed thanks

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@12. Your friends and family you say are Celtic supporters and are disgusted at what NL says?. Utter crap. Disgusted?. Narrow minded?. Because nobody agrees with you and your friends and family who are disgusted with what NL says, makes us narrow minded?. And why did you bring up Jock Stein if you don't personally say anything about him? DH {Ed001's Note - are you for real? He brought up Stein to point out how a Celtic manager should behave! Now you are having a dig at him like that was offensive. What is wrong with you? Are you so desperate for an argument? Grow up.}

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@14 Ed response: why only a celtic manager should act? Stein is an example how every football manager should act! Maybe both Lennon AND mccoist could learn something from the man! If Alex Ferguson can say how great stein was, why should we give these disgusting so called humans the opportunity to soil his name? {Ed001's Note - I agree, Stein is a great example, Fergie could have learnt something from his conduct too, but that was the same point that the poster made. Yet he is now being accused of dragging in Stein's name for the sake of it!}

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Ed we were not questioning that mans comments but a lot of rangers fans mention this crap about stein all the time I personally get it at work from neaderthal knuckle dragging muppets mm {Ed001's Note - DH was, read his post, which was nothing but a keyboard warrior trying to be a knob and start a fight for no reason.}

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18 May 2013 07:54:55
According to the Evening Times the lad Nicky Clark will be signed up by early next week. Good to see a player state that he's a supporter etc. and that he's always wanted to play for the club. Guys from teams like Motherwell who are playing possum with us should realise that it is a chance to play for an institution and not just another provincial championship team. Well be back. Take the smart bet lads.

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Last Monday the press were saying he's getting signed up tonight. Ally and his agenda driven tabloid hacks trying to be the tail wagging the dug.
The board will decide when new guys get signed and it won't be for months. SFA registration ban until September.

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Carstairs is also an institution playing for the The rangers right now is conparable to that however Its a shame that rangers are now a place were fans of the club can now get the chance to play were in the past they had no chance its like some sort of themepark for pros who would never have gotten a chance at the oldco a wise man once said that the shirt won't shrink to fit inferior players the same can't be said round govan way at the moment but good luck to the guys who go and give it a shot at least they can tell the grandkids they played for a big club even if it came at the exspense of having a career
thommyj

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18 May 2013 11:13:38
When will that clown across the city grow up?. calling Rangers the second biggest club in Scotland!. he cannot help himself, perpetually a child. 4th highest attendance in the UK last year and STILL the most successful club in world football. Ready?. Aye Ready?

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18 May 2013 12:33:43
Other than Aresenal and Manchester United no one has had more fans through the turnstiles than Celtic this season. So yip you are the second biggest team in Scotland.

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Haha don't know where that fact came from mate but that is absolute Tosh right enough your Attendance is botched upto the hills every week!

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Official figures (not hard to find if you try rather than just spouting crap in reply). Season to date so far Rangers - 823, 399. Celtic 854, 311 + 286, 573 for CL.
As for botching figures, free tickets and poor gates at the later part of the season for Rangers?

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@4 please please please give me proof of this free ticket p*sh.

Is this similar to the £100 off season tickets that is not actually money off when the whole thing is added up and moving supporters to make the ground look full. PB

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It was well documented that tickets were given free at the start of the season. Find it for yourself I am not going to spend all day googling when you clearly have a computer. The £100 of season tickets at Celtic park is to encourage failing attendance. So what. You have just frozen your tickets for the same reason. Most attendances are declining as is Scottish football in general. My attendance figures were just to prove a point that some Rangers fan was doubting, {Ed001's Note - most clubs give out free tickets to schools, it is a very common practice, even amongst clubs like Liverpool, who have a huge waiting list for season tickets. It is just part of a community programme that most clubs like to use, nothing to do with increasing attendances, everything to do with getting kids to games for the future of a club. Charlton, when they were in the Prem, would deliberately hold back tickets for otherwise sold out games, to give out free to schools and other community projects. There is absolutely no evidence of there being anything different happening here, other than wishful thinking on the part of Celtic fans, sorry.}

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@4 in order to give everyone the complete picture you should also put the number of home games played by each team. Celtic have played 1 more game at home in the league than Rangers and therefor a truer reflection would be the average attendance rather than the total attendance. Unless of course that doesn't suit your post

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18 May 2013 14:56:49
@8. The OP stated the 4th best supported team in the UK last year. All I have done is point out that Celtic have had more supporters through the gates. Far more if you count the CL. In all honesty a don't really give a rats crap. The real point is Neil Lennon has said something and as usaul some on here let it wind them up. For goodness sakes if you really want to get in to the semantics of it then can a team that have only existed for a season be the most succesful in the world? See what I did there? Its all about opinions. NL has his I have mine, you have yours.

As for home games etc, why not just go for who has the higher official average then? That would be Celtic but that's only accurate if the actual attendance figures are counted and not season ticket holders plus tickets on the day and I can assure you both teams have been playing that game.

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Pha priceless.
The amount of time put into one-upmanship on here is legendary.

Ho! Timmy, we've got a Tour De France bike in our trophy room anaw and you havenae. and ma da's bigger than your the tae. Get it up ye!

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@9 your right about not letting Lennon's comments upset people as you say he has his view. The argument about how long Rangers have been in existence is getting really tiresome and I wish both sets of fans would stop bickering about it. The important thing is for the club to move on however unlikely that is at the moment

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The proof about free tickets is if you run a council registered youth club and contact Ibrox with some reference number you get from the local council you get FREE tickets to Ibrox. I know because my wife has been to 4 or 5 games this year taking the handicapped kids she works with. Is that proof enough for you all? Oh and by the way Baybear, Craig Whyte sold that bike along with the Arsenal shares. I would have thought a Sevco fan would have known that.

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@7 no pal a think you'll find rangers froze the s/t due to the unrest in fans plus and poor performances last season

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The thing I can't understand is, if rangers are getting such big attendances why are they losing £million a month, has someone got their fingers in the till

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(12) Its an expensive set up to run.
~£1m+ on security + 0. 25m policing.
~ £0.5m to run the reserves team.
~ £0.6m on executive salaries.
~ £0.5m electric bill
~ £1-3m p. a. to run Murray Park
~£0. 25m to run the ticketing operation
Travel & hotel costs. Pitch maintenance. Matchday stewards. Loads of other things involved in keeping the lights on.
Probably £15-20m spent in a year before a ball is kicked in anger.

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@10, aye, nice try fudchops. It was still there with all the silverware when I was last in, long after Google eyes f**ked off. Anyway, to digress from that weak wind up attempt. Wee John at Ibrox told me a belter of a story about Ally, Gazza and that bike. Anyone else heard it?

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@10 LOL! another failed attempt at a wind up from the nameless propaganda merchant. I think I'll call you Kim Jong Tim from now on :0)
As for the bike Kim, when was it sold again? just checking as it looked fine to me and my family at a recent family wedding at Ibrox ;0) On the subject of the bike, does anyone else know the story of why it always has flat tyres and never leaves the trophy room? it's a belter.

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Baybear we have a european cup in our trophy room wheres yours?
And my da's 6ft 8in and wieghts in at 18st so get it up. no that's offencive but as one upmanships
goes that's a game that can go on forever its the one thing in the old rivalry that remains long may it continue
thommyj

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@16 ha ha touché oh mighty hooped banter merchant. that's more like it! I'm assuming you detected the sarcasm in my " we've got a bike and my da's bigger than yours" post? or did you really think I was using an old bike as some sort of glory symbol? incidentally we do have a European Cup in our trophy room, granted it's not the big lugged one but a European trophy none the less :0) a!
I used this phrase to highlight the never ending nonsense that get's banded back and forth for all eternity while the football world around us points and laughs. It's like watching two old whores fighting over who's had the most c**k in their life! haha. Anyway, back to the bike story. Some of you may know wee John at Ibrox. John looks after players, managers and the public at events in Ibrox and has seen some things in his time. At a recent wedding we got access all around Ibrox including the private players lounge, the Gaffers office and of course the trophy room (with the bike). John asked me if I knew why the bike had flat tyres? I just assumed it was because it was old and unused. Apparently not! The story goes that after it was presented to us by St Etienne in 77' it was basically put into storage somewhere in Ibrox for years. It was only when representatives from St Etienne visited the club many years later that the bike was put on display (after a wee bit of panic trying to find it). It was vowed that there it would stay, in the trophy room for all to see. However, many years after that the decision was made to let the air out of the tyres by Mr Dick Advocaat, why? I hear you ask. Well apparently this decision was made due to the actions of a certain Mr Alistair McCoist and his partner in crime Mr Paul Gascgoine. Advocaat thought that this would be for the best when one day hearing noise in the corridor that passes the trophy room, blue room and the gaffers office. Out of the office he stepped to find Coisty and Gazza trying to beat each others time from one end of the corridor to the other on the famous Tour De France bike! Can't say I was surprised to hear it was those two.
There you go, some light relief from all the negativity that engulfs us at the moment. I love Rangers and I love stories like these, it's all part of our history which is in our hearts and souls. That can never be taken away!

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@15: bit rich to have a go at another poster for not leaving a name, then you don't either lol

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@18- LOL. I never noticed that, fair point dude. I take responsibility for posts 15 & 17 by the way. To be honest though, I'm disappointed you never noticed the rapier wit and distinctive writing style of the one and only Baybear ;0)

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Advocaat never managed gazza at ibrox.

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@20 or McCoist for that matter.

It's a fair cop, I never even thought of that when I was told the story. Just got caught up in the story itself. Oh well, the bike was still there.
Just another romantic fabrication from Ibrox staff, you'd think I'd be used to that by now :0 (

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18 May 2013 10:29:18
Just a small point which I think it has gone unoticed?
Charlie was very good at making life impossible for us to progress in Scotland and with variouse other people with his comments.
(plus all the lies about ownership ect)
My point being was this not deliberate, so for him to be forced to resign then walk way prior to all the s*** hitting the fan?
And making a big profit!
Dounebear

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There is no doubt in my mind that Charles Green and Ahmad's exit with pockets jangling was stage managed by them. Looks like the plan is now to crash the car and claim on the insurance, hence the egm.

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