Rangers Banter Archive May 18 2014

 

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18 May 2014 18:29:05
wi was away for the weekend and ithought there would have been any number of posts about this tommy wright and alex cleland for ibrox I read on sat or maybe it was friday tommy wright stated he had seen dundee utd turn it on against various clubs but said they won't do it with us he was right saints players all knew what they had to do athey certainly managed tha

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18 May 2014 16:00:02
ED. what about a poll tomorrow. If you were a season ticket holder for season 13/14. have you renewed for 14/15? The board would like everyone to think there's been a last minute stampede. I reckon at most 10,000 will have renewed - down 60% on last season. Hardly a ringing endorsement of the Board or Management team!

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{Ed039's Note - I will get it put up)

I don't think there will be 10000 honestly macoist is a bigger factor than most people think

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McCoist is the reason I'm not renewing

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Ibj d I agree with your numbers but don't agree with the mccoist part I believe a lot want mccoist out but an awful lot more want the board out one thing at a time board first

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At this time there is not a lot more that can be done to get rid of the board no one appears to share the view that the way forward is buy them out but I am not convinced that macoists position is secure if the information I got is correct he is if I am correct he is on holliday at the minute we will see what happens on his return

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18 May 2014 15:20:37
FFs Gaz lighten up the comment about broadfoot was Tounge n cheek. @ Paulineblue maybe not the 5mil green said but must be a few mil world wide so certainly not ridiculous
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Rf. , In my opinion, your basic point is correct, and if we are to influence the decisions, we must gain control. How we manage that is more difficult, with the delegation of control of the funds being a problem. King, uof, Paul Murray etc. , could not get a unanimous backing. In fact, that is impractical, but the person who would probably get the most support would be John Greig, who would need rock solid financial support.
Difficult, but not impossible, but that is more long term. Short term is our current predicament.

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Fair point r. f, although he was great at Old Trafford one time if memory serves. Put a smiley face and I'll know. But indeed, a Jardine or a McGrain he was not. :)

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You need someone with a bit gab to unite fans john brown as rabble rouser with a johnstone in control of funds and negoiations its the only way

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Gaz he was more like a migrain

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Lol tmwnn.

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18 May 2014 13:00:15
@ Gaz below jig, Wallace, broadfoot, Alexander, little then u have goian & bocanegra who only moved over along with broadfoot on the understanding they could go when they found another club hence reason they only played 16 games between them 7 pro players the others were all from youth squad & effectively only 6 as we can't seriously consider broadfoot a player.
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Jeez, we are getting down to the semantics of whether a player's ability means he should be included or not, wow, Celtic must have had a squad of 5 during the 9 in a row then I'm presuming?

A lot of you (rightly) wanted youth involved in this progression right? Or are you Ally and don't recognise them? So regardless I think the fact remains that of that initial nucleus of 18 a good 14 of them played and more importantly were more than capable of winning Scottish Division 3, as proved by the fact that you won it by a country mile.

As for Bocanegra etc it was mutually beneficial of course, Rangers couldn't afford them (or could do the job without them) and staying would impact their international career but come transfer window end Cribari and the other 8 signings covered those gaps and more. Rangers signed 9 new players that summer and by season's end had fielded 30 players in competitive games that means that 21 players were either re-signed or already on the books that played that season.

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Rangers fans were if your 17-21 your a player regardless

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@2 admit it go on - you are johncass- honesty is the best policy- lol billyb you are our oppo of the week. Great spot mate! gone yirsel johnny boy! No bad for a young in. Now we will probably find out JYF and alaska are the same person- and why not it's all harmless fun? And will change he haw.
Don't worry Baybear the madness or superallyitis (to give it it's correct medical name) is not spreading it's just multiple posts from the same loyal true rangers till they die fans.
Oh whit a relief!

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Never denied anything

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Johncass alias bonbon you say rangers player 17 21 how many of that age group played for first team in the season past

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Greybear next target is Clarkston Bud, what do you think? Cheers mate.

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18 May 2014 11:59:02
Just watching Goals on Sunday there & I have too say I would love Tim Sherwood to come up & manage us I really would. I'd take him over a Billy Davies any day! Not saying we can afford him or even afford to get rid of Ally. But it's someone like that young & hungry who would turn this team around and drop who needed to be dropped then work on the areas we need to improve in which is all round lol. Personally I think he's perfect for the job only thing is he doesn't have much experience in Scotttish football but he will do well maybe not if he goes to Brighton seems a tough Championship job to take, but if he's available again this time next season I would rather see someone like that come in than Ally getting to buy more useless tw@ts like Ian Black & Ricky Foster!

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Larky! You're alive! At last, someone I can talk NFL with again. :)

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Was ian black and Ricky foster bought?

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Gaz I've really not kept up to date with the NFL I'm more of a UFC or MMA man now lol. The Super Bowl was awesome though I was going to record & watch the next day but when I saw what Manning done on the 1st play I had to stay up. Richard Sherman is a beast. Wilson & Harvin were class too though Seahawks so impressive.

BonBon They may not have been bought but they probably cost us about 17k a week & I don't think they deserve it & there not the only ones. Who's next Boyd & Miller. Its all wrong from the team to the manager to the board & us the fans have a part to play too although our support has been outstanding through the hardest times.

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Seattle's defense is incredible, some years I back a safety as the first score in it. (Just missed it with the Ravens v Giants) it's usually around 50/1 and I was kicking myself for missing it this year, especially knowing they had a great defense. Good to see you on Larky. :)

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Good too see you've not changed and have people in a stir already. Always good too have healthy Arguments.

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Lol, indeed Larky although I think this board could cause a debate in an empty room.

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18 May 2014 11:20:19
Here's a suggestion on getting the present board out of Ibrox instead of using the bank account that's been opened for season ticket monies why doesn't D. King ask the reportedly 4/5 million fan base world wide to deposit £10 each into this account raising 40/50 mil Mr king uses money to buy out major shareholders for the fans & with the money left plus his promise of 30/50mil the club would be on a sound footing I know we don't want to line there pockets but it seems only way we will get board out
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18 May 2014 14:03:36
OP simple answer is because we don't have 4/5 million fans worldwide. When you say "reportedly" you may have forgotten the source of that ridiculous claim - charlie green.

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Pauline were you been?

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@op king didn't promise anything and also stated he wants to use other investors money

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I have suggested that for a while fans buy out

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18 May 2014 10:25:56
Clarification on who turned up for pre season actual number was 13 but b4 you say told here's the breakdown pro's jig broadfoot, Wallace & Alexander. youth Hutton, Perry, k. naismith, Cole, Hemmings. free agents Mitchell, kerker, hegarty, little, goian, bedoya never turned up & Edu & bocanegra were given time off due to world cup nova came back but didn't hang around for long nor did broadfoot so effectively we had 4 pro jig, Wallace, Alexander & little with 4 youth Hutton, Perry, Hemmings & Hegarty that's all we had
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Garbage, 14 out of the 18 I mentioned played competitive football for Rangers that season, check it up, others such as McLeod, who had already been a unused sub the season before also were technically at the club but did get some game time that season. The only four who didn't play any competitive games were Kerkar, Bedoya and Edu who all left and Gallagher who went on loan. Goian, Bocanegra and Broadfoot played a combined 16 games before moving on and they re-signed Mitchell, Hegarty and Little as was always going to be the case, so still 14, nice try r. f but still wrong and still not 6 players.

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@1 check our squad at the start of that season, go through the names and see who was still there after the transfer window closed and you will find that we were pretty thread bare.

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Jyf by the END of the transfer window you had the existing players (bar the 3 that left and Gallagher on loan) and then a further 3 players left after some appearances and this "thread bare" poor wee unit was added to and bolstered by Black, Shiels, Sandaza, Cribari, Kyle, Faure, Argyriou, Templeton and Stella. So of the 18 I mentioned 6 left, one was loaned out and they were replaced by 9.

So during the transfer window you mentioned they gained net two players plus brought on the likes of McLeod, Aird, Crawford etc from the youth set-up. If you are going to quote the transfer window jyf, look at both sides of it, eh?

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@Jyf this is in no way a trick question it is simply from a fan of a different viewpoint. What is your take on the different announcements from the UOF and the board. Who is telling porkies or can they really have misundestood what the other party was saying?
Personally I am surprised and can only assume that whoever represented the board in the negotiations may have agreed to something that somebody of REAL power did not want to concede.
Agreed or disagreed? If agreed who is/are that person or persons of real power?
If not what other explanation is there that would seem to leave the club in a worse position in terms of the major income stream?

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@4 greybear, I don't do politics mate I just buy my season ticket and go and support my team come what may, I do however think that the uof are playing a dangerous game with our club and I also think that you are right and there are faces behind the sceens pulling the strings and I have my own thoughts as to who they are. Can wallace really be a puppet?I give him more credit than that so I want to give him time to see what he's made of. Just for the record I never liked or trusted white or green but wallace I see as different, time will tell.

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Fair enough Jyf. I wish I shared your confidence in Mr Wallace. Like you I wanted him to be the real deal but the way it has played out since the AGM has undermined confidence in him.

Like Ted_jons pal said the other day I wish the Malcolm Murrays and Walter Smiths would just come out and give us all a clearer picture of what is happening and who is the real king behind the throne.

For me Mr King and the UOF and the rest of us will only change things by buying out the city slickers as Cooperboy said get John Greig who we all respect to lead a fans membership scheme and buy them out lock stock and barrel.
Until then for however long we stagger on the club will not be safe or cleansed.

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I knew deal would not suit king and as far as I know wallace offered to go back to board but there offer was for 12 months king really can't get the deal he wants because that's impossible its a dangerous game being played out withking

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Grey bear I have been shouting that from the rooftops for months time is going on the longer the impasse lasts the worse it becomes

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18 May 2014 09:25:26
i think sales are poor (if strong board would be crowing the numbers and not meeting with uof)

fan base is split, we have murdo and his cabal backing green, mather, stockbridge and any board that does not have real rangers men in it, mcmurdo now claims board read his blog, why would board do that unless board feeding him spin?

silent majority is winning, and hope fans will get big real stake in club and its future, not debentures, and stock certs on wall that are worthless.

we fans are heart of this club and need real stake in it

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I let my heart rule my head on Fri went to renew at 16:30hrs it was dead, 6 people serving and nobody to serve. Last year I knew I could no longer sit in the family section as my son was too old and he now had a job that meant he can't always go on a Sat, so I asked t e moved, they said I could stay there if I knew pers. So I payed and left, this year I went with a wad of cash (£600) in case they went to move me and the guy wouldn't let me renew, I offered him my money he never tried to move me so I walked. If that is how you treat people trying to buy season tickets you don't deserve my money and that guy doesn't deserve to be in a job. There is a serious lack of moral within the club.

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Starve the company of cash but love the club. ironnic innit. club company myth will destroy from within. all cateting with TRIFC tied up for years. same with some players contracts. all going to end in tears again. a summer with huge blacl clouds gatherinh

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