Rangers Banter Archive August 19 2011

19 Aug 2011 23:11:34
Well seeing the pubs are shut

19 Aug 2011 22:26:22
a 3-5-2 formation
mcgregor
bocanegra weir goian
mcculloch bartley
bedoya davis ortiz
jelavic naismith

bocanegra is a rb not a cb
would love to sign larsson (malmo) to play iat cf with jelavic move nassy back to rm

THOUGHTS

Bocanegra is a cb or lb.

Bocanegra is a cb, but can also play lb or defensive mid

19 Aug 2011 20:04:50
Has anyone seen the facebook page made up by a Aberdeen fan about the Ibrox Disaster. f***ing w**ker {Ed025's Note - some people are sick..

I reported it.

There's a big drive from the law to stamp out sectarianism in football but all hate and animosity isn't solely based on religion. People like the ar*ehole who started this facebook page should also be charged and made an example of. If it was a Gers or Celt fan that was on the pc giving it ya fenian this or ya orange that they would probably get a chap at the door.

People found his name and address and where he works. So I hope he gets what he deserves

M8 av never been on a dons forum but dont even entertain this halfwit theyv been singen s**t aboot disasters an stuff for years they used tae be a problem football wise fur us but thats changed a see them as 3 points noo they latch oan tae theyr hatred of our club (as do many , no names mentioned )the problem wi the sheep is they would love tae be part of the glasgow rivalry but lets face it there just a backwater club who are even miles behind hearts/hibs who are much bigger clubs the sheep have nuthin tae offer tae oor poor leeg apart from a good day oot , Inverness look better up north than they clowns, idiot support ,duff team , end of story

19 Aug 2011 21:30:20
Alright guys Have to get some of this off my chest.

The reason, as I have posted before that I believe Ally is pursuing so many central defenders and wingers might be that he is planning on playing a 3-5-2 formation. Does anybody see this as a possibility?

Also, I wish people would continue to have patience and stop going on about how much money they spend to 'watch this rubbish'. I am a Rangers Fan and will support them wherever and whenever they play regardless of the cost as long as it is affordable to me. Nobody is being asked to spend money they haven't got. If you can't afford to buy a ticket then don't. But the fact that you continue to go to games or watch them on TV means you must be able to afford it. Otherwise you wouldn't go. People must just be looking for a scapegoat for poor performances which quite frankly haven't been too bad.

Whyte has spent money on SEVEN players (Ortiz, Goian, Bartley, Wallace, Bedoya, Bocanegra and MacKay) and tied our best to long term deals, yet people still complain. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Take a step back and look at the big picture. Then I'm sure you'll see that things aren't as bad as they seem. We will win the return leg and go on a decent run in the tournament (in my opinion) and we will get at least a domestic double. Watch this space fellow bears. Remember WE ARE THE PEOPLE

BigBear1873

You're insane mate.....the guy selling the blue tinted specs must be minted, this is the worst squad in recent times, abslutely packed with mediocre players, we are f***** dire.

Shagger, Naismith, Davis and Jela....That's our only quality. And 2 of those are way off the mark so far this season. The rest would never have started for Rangers in a million years until recent seasons. Ortiz wouldn't even have been on the bench and we all know this.

Correct mate, this squad is very very mediocre indeed, my other worry is, that Shagger Davo and Naisey are getting dragged down with the rest, i honestly think we are English league 1 material at best, in fact guys like Mikail Smith played there last year and would walk into our team

19 Aug 2011 21:12:55
some people on here are unbelievable they moan when we dont get players in and then when we do its oh hes s**** he played for a diddy team in sweden . if a guy only cost £300,000 he must be crap eh WE are not going to buy £5m or £10m world class big names lets give the guys a chance before knocking them but its the same old impatient rangers fans every yr ....bigt

Mate did we not give them a chance against hearts, malmo and now maribor.

unfortunatly we are now heading out of europe altogether unless something is done.

When you come to either half of the old firm regardless of how sh*t the league is you are expected to raise your game and expected to pay well straight away - if you cant hack the pressure you shouldnt be playing at these clubs

i do we need to keep backing the team but i think the fans who are blinded by the blue tinted glasses -need to remove said glasses.

To true m8 give anybody a chance a lot of mill+ signens have proved to be total duds yet many a 6 figure player has proved his worth in all the top leegs , whit gets on ma tits is evry player whos playd the game has at 1 time or another been a youth player , all bet ye some of our young players will be worth a few bob eventually ,but it'll probably a few year later when weev moved them on , use them now a say , evry body knows weer bad players we dont need to even buy to replace the duds weev got a few rough diamonds at wer disposle use them

Naw, we moan when we get 'kidded' on about the calibre of player we are in for.....Bedoya for instance, isn't a bargain, he's a genuine fairly priced 300k footballer, just the same as the ones that league 2 clubs are signing for that price.

Agree with the replys to the post, the blue tinted ones are everywhere just now...how are you expected to back a guy, whos tactics are a disgrace (especially his lack of subs), and who's enthusiasm and body language in the dug out are absolutely shocking, the tims must think big Mogga has went to the Gers.

You're right mate this site is full of complete tits. I thought this site was great when I first found it but unfortunately the b**tards have ground me down. Some of the nonsense spouted on here is obviously from people who don't have a clue. It's that bad I hardly read it anymore. Give super a chance , I bet when half half this lot started a new job they made mistakes and took a while to settle in.

Rangers till I die

Oranjeboom

Aye,magic 'Rangers till i die' sorts everything, we're a joke.

19 Aug 2011 20:30:12
mccoist has proven that he is tactically unaware but i cant say i want him out the man needs a chance,with the new midfielders there is no way mcculoch and edu will play together which is the problem in midfield davis has to be able to express himself,striker is defo needed as although we have a good partnership in jela n laff gta have cover, y big worry is the teams discipline its somethn that needs to be adressed

Couldy agree more m8 but weel come good ano we will its just we need tae stop playin bad players and move them on , we know who they are , ally needs tae be ruthless wi hees friends noo (a mean some of the players ) he's manager noo not the coach ad hate tae think that a legend will eventually get his books thru loyalty tae bad players

19 Aug 2011 20:10:11
ally should be going all out to sign malmo striker daniel larsson. he is quick, direct and scores goals at rangers cost, and will be available for around 1 million.

No doubt Whyte will offer £150,000 for him, someone else will come in and offer what they want.. and we end up with nothing again.

19 Aug 2011 20:15:59
most managers have a three year plan when taking over at a club, ally hasnt had 3 month yet and his head is on a axe shocking its not allys fault, its craig whytes if ally got the players he asked for in the first place ibrox would have had a feel good factor, the new players would be motivated and we would have steamrolled into the champions league group stages ally has brought in bottem ove the barrell players because its all he is allowed to do. ally plays one up front because the players he has dictates this bacause ove the last off quality and numbers blame whyte not ally, its his lies thats putting us in this mess and i hope ally quits and finds a club that will show him the RESPECT that he is damn well entitled too.

I'm getting sick of replying to posts like this with reponses like the following. Yes, Ally may not have the resources, finances, negotiating team or personnel he/we would like or that is obviously needed...BUT, that SHOULD NOT prevent him from the basic ABC decision making required in Football. i.e Subs, tactic change, game plan, letting the players on the pitch know what you can see from the sidelines in terms of what's working what's not. These things do NOT need finance, Chairman backing or whatever else.

It's those things we're judging Ally on and blaming him for. If he's unable to make a blatantly obvious change fans can see without money....etc

Ally will not get 3 months, because he will never be a manager in 100 years....either he was acting it last year with all the passion he was showing, or he's acting it this year with his Tony Mowbray impersonation, where is the guy who had a head to head with lennon?, he's no there......would the real Ally please stand up (and be counted)

Agree with you mate, if ally cannot steer this present squad past a team like malmo well we are in trouble

bigstevie

19 Aug 2011 19:28:27
this has nothing to do with football but how was the guest on the one show because she was hot

19 Aug 2011 19:08:56
The simple fact is Maribor are nothing special and we should have done them over.

But....

Away goal or not, if we play like that again at Ibrox, with the same "Old Guard" in midfield, we will get the same result.
The away goal only counts if we don't concede and do any of you Boers think that with our defence they WON'T score?
We need to be more positive in possession, with players who are hungry for glory and will take it on and pop off shots from range.

SKEGGER

BOCA, WEIR, GOIAN, WALLACE

BARTLEY

DAVIS NESS

ORTIZ

JELAVIC

BENCH:

WYLDE
NESS
HUTTON
EDU
JIG
BENDIKSON
BROADFOOT
ALEXANDER

Just a thought.........

Only 10 players? Your team selections worse than Ally's lol

Dont you think we would have more chance if we actually played with eleven players in this match rather than your ten man squad. Just an idea.

I think we'd be better playing 11 players mate instead of 10. were not that good ffs.

U drunk?? Two ness's ortiz played out of position...

Nah, the orignal poster has decided that since we already have planks of wood on our team such as Edu and Jig, that he would partner ''Bench'' up front with Jelavic as the 11th man

19 Aug 2011 18:46:17
Aslong as we win the title this year then im happy

19 Aug 2011 17:57:57
Once Rangers get McKay is then we can surely allow either McCulloch or Edu go? We have brought in the biy Bedoya, McKay and Ortiz. ness is fit again, Hutton can do a job and Gregg Wydle is dying to prove his worth. We dont need McCulloch anymore and he is clearly too dear on wages. Get rid.

From there all we will need is 1 more creative player that could play both wings and a striker. I give you:

Vladamir Weiss for the flair on the wings
Ebanksblake for pace and finishing up front.

The possible twist being someone like Lovenkraands.

For 2 out of these 3 players it would cost us what, 4-5m all in?

Statement of intent from Whyte and a great arsenal for the season.

Only possible change would be Guidetti of Man City on loan as another striker option.

Tooblueforyou

19 Aug 2011 17:55:54
You have to laugh at the Scottish media. Evening times byline states " Celtic interest in Man city striker" . The story goes on to state that the player is Rocky Santa Cruz, however Lennon clearly states he hadn't enquired but a player of that ilk would interest him if available. This is part of the problem Ally faces, both he and Lennon are now seeking a striker and the media are beginning to make up stories or falsely raising fans hopes and expectations. You can bet whoever Ally fancies the media will be straight on the phone to Parkhead to try and create conflict or generate a story. Biased, you bet they are.

The media will make up any old guff - after all they have papers to sell.

19 Aug 2011 17:47:11
{Ed047's Note - check your facts before you make such a stupid and childish statement. Fact 1 He was brought up a Rangers fan by his dad and changed to Celtic after his parents split up. That kinda shatters the 'lifelong ' part. Fact 2 Supporting one half of the old firm doesn't ban you from the other half. Here's a quick list, I'm sure there are plenty to add to it...Kenny Dalglish, Neil McCann, Danny McGrain, Scott Brown, Rab Douglas, Mo Johnston, Ross McCormack and I also believe Murdo Mcleod, Gregg Wylde and Danny Wilson can be addedWhen are some people gonna move on from those days?


ed how can you say 'check your facts before you make such a stupid and childish statement ' . You dont know for a FACT any of the people you mentioned support the teams you said they do. Two words prove it?

{Ed047's Note - I don't know for a fact Dalglish, McGrain, Brown, Douglas supported Rangers and McCann, Mo Johnston, McCormack supported Celtic? It's common knowledge boy. The only person that doesn't seem to know it is YOU. Why don't you stop wasting my time and yours and Google those people.

There was a BBC program many moons ago about dalglish that stated he grew up in shadow of ibrox and that he was a fan , hope that helps ED ?

Spot on ed. dalglish played with gers but we released him for being too small. well known he was an avid gers fan but wanted to have a career. could add jock stein to the list
s-bear

Doesn't Scott Brown have a Rangers tattoo? I am sure that I heard that.

What player yez talking about ??


T-Bear

Danny mcgrain was a rangers fan.
a rangers scout spotted him but did not recommend him to rangers, by wrongly assuming he was a catholic by his name and that rangers would not sign him because of this. so rangers could have had dalglish and mcgrain.

19 Aug 2011 17:24:23
Listen lads get a ticket for the game next week and cheer the teddy bears on. C'mon the mighty gers

c-bear85

I'll be there i have my ticket
s-bear

Good to here it mate, heres hoping we'll no be flinging it on oan the park.

c-bear85

19 Aug 2011 17:21:35
Read so many comments today, good to see the real Rangers supports come out in force,eh ? Slagging off player after player, Ally McCoist, the whole team the coaching staff. You should all give yourselves a good shake and take a look in the f**king mirror BTW, SHOCKING In the the cold light of day and after some sleep, I hope the majority of you are F**king ashamed at your negative comments, NO PLACE AT IBROX for your kind of s" support "............... We have enough f**king enemies guy's, people are trying to bring us down, and we know who THEY are. Get behind our team, or get to F**K................. not welcome. 4 in a row
{Ed047's Note - People are entitled to slag off players and have opinions but when they suggest McCoist be sacked or say Boca was mince then it's uncalled for. A lot of people tend to lack patience and expect people to walk into a job and perform as though he's been there for years

If you're happy to watch rangers play mince, then fine - i for one am not.
{Ed047's Note - I'm not happy to watch it but I have a choice and I choose to continue to support them as I have done all my life. I watched Rangers when they WERE mince - finishing 3rd, 4th in the league but I never turned my back on them. You have a choice too and if you don't like it 'support' someone else. A true supporter sticks with it through good and bad. You're stuck mate because if it's just about seeing captains lifting trophies, you better get yourself to Spain and try for a season ticket at the Nou Camp. It's as close as you'll get to a guarantee of success, but then again........

Well said ed

Couldn't agree more ed support your team through good times bad times or not to bad times wee are the champs and at the end of the season wee will see number 55 league titles world record it is actually amazing being able to say that and am sure of that in ally wee trust
campbell

19 Aug 2011 17:01:57
Dispite the loss, we still have an away goal. The home leg at Ibrox, we will surely win with fans behind the lads. The defence needs time to settle its been put together in this window. We have a few names out aswell. We must be still confident of winning the tie.

We need a good striker who can partner jelavic and also put pressure of lafferty to put up his game.

We need a wide player - wiess would be ideal again. He did a pretty sound job last season and will only get better.

This 'Suchy' from spartak that we are looking at for possible loan seems to be alright. He broke into the first 11 last season.

Mckay has his permit accepted and looks the part in the centre with davis. And beyoda seems decent.

I still have faith in Super Ally.
WATP

19 Aug 2011 16:54:38
Hi Ed , Great to see this site getting back to be a rumours page and not the part time Rangers supporting Ally bashing page. These part time supporters have short memories and should be ashamed of such daft comments. one things for sure they will be at Ibrox singing SUPER ALLY when our true blue manager wins us the league.

Take your head out of sand. {Ed047's Note - and if he does win us the league you'll be doing the honourable thing and staying well clear. You wouldn't want to be a hypocrite, would you?

At the moment it's a big IF...No hypocrite, i've never been in favour of Ally getting the position in the first place, thought he was not experienced enough for the job of Rangers manager. He's a nice guy and was a great player for us, but as a manager - the jury's out on that one. {Ed047's Note - I don't disagree with you. I wasn't sure that Ally was the right man but he's got the job and I'll be behind him. I don't always agree with his decisions but he has to make those decisions as he sees fit. Everything in footballs always a big IF.

Souness or smith were not experienced enough for the job when they got it. As i recall they both done no a bad job....The clubs in his blood and he will get it right

19 Aug 2011 16:17:02
I cant believe the amount of "fans" on here calling for McCoist to be sacked, its totally out of order, the guy hasnt been allowed to put his own stamp on the team, he'll get there, i thought last nights game was a bad result but it was far from a disgrace, we played well in the first half and they never had a look in, the gaffer had to take naisy off because (and not for the first time this season) the red mist had set in and he was lucky to even make it to half time, if he had stayed on then we would have won it comfortably but that moved forced a change in formation which obviously didnt suit us, lafferty was clearly nowhere near fit but again Ally didnt have much choice looking onto the bench, the only option would have been to move ortiz to the right and put wylde on but he doesnt track back and that would have left Wallace (who didnt play well at lb) really exposed, plus we had a central defence that had played for Rangers 3 times between them Edu played ok so get off his back, yeah he made a mistake but he has a good engine and his passing was spot on, big jig looked well off the pace though and im sure if Ness hadnt pulled up before the game he would have been on the bench. I read on here that someone thinks we should be beating this team 6-0 and that they were joiners and butchers, total p*sh, they are a technically good side and even when we were spending 25million on players we only beat them 3-1 so get a grip and take those blue tinted glasses off and realise that we are no longer the force we were. Saying that am 100% confident that we'll finish the job at ibrox especially if we have a few bodies back by then, if we can isolate their left back then we'll have joy all night down that side because he is truly murder, imagine being skinned by broadfoothaha. looking forward to having Davie Weir back because there is obviously a distinct lack of leadership and communication and although he's getting on a bit (to be kind) he really reads the game and talks everyone through it.

I,ll say this to you son
where to start, ally knew what he was walking into
and the famous glasgow rangers knew europe was coming as they did in kaunas
maybe this debacle is ok for you but not for me expect rangers to be ready AYE READY no maybe f@ckin ready yes it will be ok later no there paid to be f@ckin ready AYE F@CKIN READY rant over aye ready

Fair enough but the thing is, you don't need money, your own stamp, chairmans backing or anything else to make a substitution when required It's wee basic things like this where Ally seems to have have a total inability. What use is backing, building your own team and whatever else i you can't nail the basic ABC's...Most of us are just fans and we could tell the players were tired, struggling or some just weren;t performing...

And another thing how much does it cost to be ready nothing mr whyte

AYE READY well maybe ready

"He has not been allowed to put his stamp on the team". OK maybe i am missing something, tell me who picks the team? who decides the formation we play and the tactics we use? who has the ability to make changes on the park? whos job is it to get the best out of the players? who decides when we use subs? Thats putting you stamp on the team, if someone is playing mince, get him aff and try somebody else, if its no working with your two wide guys, switch them over and see if they can get any joy on the opposite wing, if your one nil up, dont sit back and get humped 2-1 get up shout jump up and down lose the plot a bit thats how you put your stamp on the team

Are we ready for edu being found out later in the season,are ready for whitaker costing us games at full back,are we ready for jelevic wanting away because were crap,are we readyfor mcculloch never being the same player,are we ready for ortis never being played in the correct position,are we ready for naismiths sale was papac ill when he was played are we ready for whyte hanging ally out to dry
big breath, well are we ready

And before anyone says this is the worse team they have seen no its not john greig often got bad displays out of better players

19 Aug 2011 16:08:10
We have weiss on permanent deal 2.5m with 1m more possibly in add ons

Hoof hearted

You, ve started drinking early today. 3.5m for a player available to sign on a bosman in January

19 Aug 2011 16:24:28
I am not paid to be the manager of Rangers, but I was sufficiently aware of the implications when Naisy was booked to say to our group watching the match "that's him out of the return." We all seemed to know the booking would exclude him. Ally then goes and subtitutes him at half-time with the manifestly unfit Lafferty, to prevent Naismith being sent off and so... wait for it... missing the return What is worse, and has been wholly missed by the Scottish lapdog press, is what this substitution says for Ally's belief in his own man management ability. Walter would have had young Steven in a dark room at the stadium and told him if he picked up a second booking for yet another whingeing, childish act of petulance, he would be fined a draconian sum of money among other unpleasantnesses. Ally was the striking legend of legends, but this immature drivel of "in Ally we trust" by blinkered fans misses the point that the greatest players do not necessarily have the skill sets to become managers at the same level. If I ran my business with such abysmal knowedge of my brief, such woeful man management and an inability to learn from my mistakes, I would go belly-up and deserve to do so. For all Whyte's farcical transfer nonsense and probable deception in promising serious funds, Ally cannot escape the blame for his severe limitations (so far) as a manager of men and of even basic football strategy. Ibrox is currently shrouded in misrule by, at best, business and football incompetents, and, at worst by an unprecedented charlatanism. Like all sensible fellow Bears, I would dearly love to be proved wrong by quality signings and a root and branch club overhaul.

Senior London Bear

Quality comes at a price-money we dont have and a wage black hole that would bury the club as it nearly has during murrays tenture-its basic business, dont spend what you dont have if you are a business man you will understand that,we have the tax case hanging over us and will need money for it- promised funds have gone on players and wages -25k a week is a huge amount for scottish football-just accept the tore andre flo`s days are gone forever-you will be proven wrong,ill support my club and sing even if we are bottom- ally needs time to work,we arent as bad as we when big eck came in we had some guff then on big money to (emerson),he got rid of that guff and got better-ally will do the same if fans like you can wait more than a couple of months- this is longterm,whyte is looking to find investment for the club-lessons will be learned-naisy misses a match we should win easy and then return in the next match- could be a master stroke, time will tell but will you come on and hold your hands up?
steve the ger

Ok he gets sent off and is still banned for next game fair point but think you missed one wee thing. What about the team playing with ten men for the second half Doooohhhh

19 Aug 2011 15:58:50
this 2 yellow cards ban in europe is beyond a fu*king joke

19 Aug 2011 15:45:30
Some Rangers fans may be scratching their heads and scouring the internet for more information about new signing Matt McKay, but they need not worry. The 28-year-old has all the attributes to be a success in the Scottish Premier League.

Primarily a central midfielder, McKay is also comfortable at left back or on the left wing, and his versatility is one of the main reasons why he has been a permanent fixture in Holger Osieck�s international squads as of late.

Indeed, McKay enjoyed a fantastic 2011 AFC Asian Cup campaign back in January and played an integral role in the Socceroos� run to the final. Having set up Harry Kewell for the winner against Iraq in the quarter finals, his best performance came in the 6-0 semi final demolition of Uzbekistan, where he set up three goals and claimed the Man of the Match award.

To all the people who are bad mouthing our new signings before they even kick a ball here is a wee bit info on our new midfielder WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED WATP. Support our team don't act like the manky mob

19 Aug 2011 15:04:00
so many of you have to wake up,teams from scotland unless backed by huge investors cant compete with any decent team from the major leagues we are miles behind in terms of revenue from tv- imagine if we got an extra £35m from tv deals and all the extra sponsorship on top- we are in a piss poor league,its balls to watch (no pun intended)- viewing figures prove this a major rethink of scottish football is needed or this will continue each year as it ha, spl teams dont get results-we are not a force we never have been the seasonal stats prove it-no1 wants an spl team only craig whyte wanted us or we`d of been down the pan by now-its not a nice smell but reality never really is

Let's be honest if a team came to ibrox and we beat them 2-1 it would be a bad result for us so we can't win it was a crap performance with a not to bad result bedoya and McKay will hopefully bring some creative spark we needin midfield then a good striker and we'r nearly there the team will settle down we will go through and we will come good
{Ed047's Note - although both McKay and Bedoya won't be eligible for the return leg so we need to go through without their help

19 Aug 2011 14:22:48
jELAVIC WOULD ONLY BE A SUB WITH LESSER TEAMS IN ENGLAND, SAD TO SAY BUT TRUTH PREVAILS, RANGERS CAN ONLY COMPARE THEMSELVES NOW WITH THE BEST IN WALES AND IRELAND, SAD SAD DAYS, WHO WOULD SAY YEARS AGO, NOW REALITY ?

He would walk into most teams in the EPL

No he wouldn't. Jelavic has the talent and potential to go right to the top of the game. He needs a partner upfront to help him out. He's wasted as a loan striker. There are plenty of strikers in the EPL that don't have the talent of Jelavic. We are lucky to have him IMO.

Agree sub

Did jelavic not get linked with man utd at some point last season???
if he was getting linked with man utd then am sure he would walk into most of them haha without a doubt

History looks at goals , get a grip, get real, partner ? which planet are you both on ?

Jelavic himself said Man Utd were interested in him. Take it with a pinch of salt, although the saying goes 'no smoke without fire'.

19 Aug 2011 14:15:58
GOALS, GOALS, thats what we need, without thwm we are nothing , who do we need to get them, simple, cant get anywhere without them, which players, sadesst day in RANGERS HISTORY, SHOULD BE IN hIGHLANDS FOOTBALL ?

19 Aug 2011 12:43:22
Well Bears, At halftime last night, i thought it would be 2-0 , but it's a lack of discipline thats cost us again. Switched off twice at throw-ins. It was a new back 4 however, so i can forgive them. Bocanegra looked short of match pace from the start, but i'm convinced he'll come good within 3 or 4 games. Gion looks the part to me and Wallace is a player. Does look as though we're crying out for midfielders and please, please, please Ally, play the spaniard on the right ffs, it is his position and even Pat Nevin cud see last night that he looks well better away from the left wing. What happened to Ness last night, the boy is gonna be a star.
Finally, good to see big laugherty back last night (never thought i'd say that) and within a few games we'll see the best of him and Jelavic again, Still think we'll go thru, 2-0 or 3-0 at Ibrox,
Bazbear

Ness had picked up a knock - see official site

19 Aug 2011 11:41:49
suspension & injuries took there toll on the gers last night new players take time to adjust,we should of been 2-3 goals to the good,we are looking better than any other spl side in terms of progression weve signed players,things will take time to settle a couple more will be introduced aswell,as for mccoist he`s learning he will get better as a manager you so called loyals fans really want to take a look at yourself coming on here and spreading your bulls**t poison-a full team would of beat that lot last night,jela missed plenty of chances but as he`s the blue eyed boy no1 seems to mention it but if its edu or whitts your on it like hot pie in winter-do you`s know the meaning of support i remember real rangers fans, not these doom merchants of today-stick together,sing louder when we are losing help the boys out thats what real fans do,not boo every miss placed pass-give edu,whitts and those boys some form of confidence dont zap it in 20 minutes, i remember mccoist and hateley getting stick when they 1st came and look what happened-come on-prove your the fans to claim to be

19 Aug 2011 11:19:20
Juhasz is just what we need in def, a class solid CB

We need some spice in midfield

We need a pacey striker, got enough centre backs I think

Rory

19 Aug 2011 11:17:32
To all use so called rangers fans that want ally out the door already get a grip give the legend a chances, as for edu mcculloch getting played he doesn't have much of a choice what can he do fling young inexpierenced players into the deep end in big euro matches fair does I rate these players but they are not ready for europe in my opinion we need players who can come in and threaten for 1st team places give the edu's and mcculloch's a scare and maybe then they will start performing, there to comfortable atm thinking there guaranteed a game week in week out

The answer to that is yes Why have player on your bench if you have no intention of playing them if the others are playing s**te. May as well not pay their wages then

19 Aug 2011 11:08:38
Okay so let's put last night behind us and move on the tie isn't over, we have that all important away goal

An interesting bit of news from last night Roland Juhasz didn't play for Anderlecht in their europa league play-off match could he still be on his way to Ibrox?
(source uefa.com match centre)

19 Aug 2011 10:58:17
A few people have posted comments on the American signings being commercial rather than football related. This is complete nonsense. Rangers have had players from the U.S for years so Its nothing new. the mere suggestion that the 2 recent signings are for commercial reasons would also mean that Craig Whyte is actually the man signing them as opposed to the manager. The U.S are not that interested in Soccer and despite many european and S American players moving to the U.S over the last 40 years or so It has never generated much interest in the country. Average attendances in the MLS are marginally better than the SPL but in a country of the size of the U.S that would not be a big surprise. The difference between the Asian market and the U.S is like night and day. These players were brought in because the price was right and the manager rates them.

"We can undoubtedly create more awareness in the USA by having three international players here and we hope that it will open up new opportunities for us." Ali Russell, Rangers website

Ali Russel has confirmed that these signings will open up commercial benifits in the USA.
Source- BBC
Time will tell but i have my doubts.
BR

The asian market is far bigger than america`s granted it all helps but if we want major sales why not look into japan,korea,china these countries are producing more talent than scotland as well proven by far more asian players playing in major leagues-its a big pie and a few crumbs from it would go along way with us

19 Aug 2011 10:38:11
The amount of so called Rangers fans on this page is unreal, all you ever see is moan moan moan moan moan, seriously shut up

We have 7 new signings who need time to gel together and gel with the players we already have. From the people who were actually in Slovenia last night it sounds as if we pummelled them and they scored twice. We will demolish them at ibrox next week.

I can guarantee if we beat motherwell, then Maribor, then the sheep and then united and beat Celtic at home on the 18th hence leaving us top of the league and in the europa league group stages all you "fans" on here compaining will be happy with the management and the owner, get a grip, your either a rangers fan or not, support the team through thick and thin or don't support them at all.

Please post this ED.

We are supporting the team. But if your happy with second rate european results thats fine. I'm will not be happy getting beat from teams we should be getting past (Malmo and Kaunas) and neither are the majority of the Gers support. So jog on apologist........

I'm will not? Makes sense right enough, a 2-1 defeat away in europe just is not that bad, we have a vital away goal and will go through next week, time to wake up and smell the coffee, we dont have the money or the attraction to bring big names to Ibrox anymore, the reality is, we are a second rate european team nowadays. Get used to it. The team need support not complaints, if you think you could not a better job or fund enough money for rangers to buy big names then I'm sure your CV will be welcome at ibrox.

We are sh*** worst ever, just you keep supporting ,as you call it, and we'll get worse, because the 'we are the people' numpties accept any c*** in a blue jersey......diddies {Ed047's Note - You're a gloryhunter then? You only support winning teams? Why don't you think about supporters of East Fife, Montrose, etc who spend each Saturday HOPING their team might get a result and maybe fight for promotion? Maybe the club would rather you didn't 'support' them

19 Aug 2011 10:29:56
come on guys, out of the 3 teams from the spl that played last night RANGERS have the best chance. just look what happened at parkhead last night , another massive night for lennys losers.

I don't care about any other team, the simple truth is that we were a shambles last night and will do well to win anything with this current squad.
BR

19 Aug 2011 10:25:46
Rangers signing policy.....If you pay peanuts you get monkeys

19 Aug 2011 10:10:15
We have a poor team, and although we are now adding depth to the side we have not improved it any. We got away with things under Walter because he is one of the best tacticians in the business. However, Ally has proved so far that, at the moment, he does not have that same tactical ability.
Changing the manager is not the answer, as Walter Smith's do not grow on trees. So the only answer is for Whyte to help Ali improve the squad. We need players that can turn games and provide goals to make up or stupid ones lost, and Ally's tactical ineptness.

19 Aug 2011 09:47:59
It really is a joke that we have to rely on Kirk Sarefoot to produce the creativity we need Get Weiss back now, offer McFadden a contract and get a proper striker in to work with Jellyfish

McFadden is not the answer, too much of an individual and won't pass the ball half the time. Likes to beat 5 players before/if he decides to pass it.

19 Aug 2011 09:43:50
As bad as that was last night we still only need a 1-0 win at home to go through. 2-1 isn't the worst away result it was the manner in which we blew it

19 Aug 2011 09:32:22
The lack of support for your team on here is a joke. I'm ashamed to read half the stuff, all these 'fans' wanting Ally out the door, and Whyte to spend £5M on this player, £3M on that, will be the same 'fans' who buy a ticket for the game and stand gloating to the away fans when we are winning or leave for the subway even earlier than normal when we are getting beat. If you dont back us, please dont bother coming back to Ibrox. Ally is a legend who is finding his feet, please dont abuse the guy and try and make him the scapegoat - he also fully deserves his chance as gaffer. Beat it and gloryhunt elsewhere

You are spot on my friend

Absolutely spot on. I have never seen a total lack of respect from as many fans as I have seen in the last few weeks on here. If its not Whyte its Ally if its not Ally its Edu that gets it, everyone looking to blame someone instead of blaming we all should be encouraging our team. Even Ibrox is a ghost of its former glory with all the negativity. Rangers are in the process of building a new team things wont happen overnight. Some of the fans on here seem to be a bit unrealistic in what you expect to be achieved it wont happen overnight. Last nights performance was shocking but did it put us out of Europe...no we have a 90 minute tie at Ibrox where I am sure we will put things right......We are the people and our club needs our SUPPORT

Respect has to be earned. I respect ally as a rangers great (footballer), but as a manager he's got a long way to go yet. When/if he achieves it, then i will be the first to stand up and applaud.

19 Aug 2011 09:20:58
Naismith needs put in his place by McCoist. Thinks he is better than he is. A spell on the bench a think would do no harm.

Thoughts?

I've been harping on about Naismith for a while..... I don't understand how he just waltzes in the team. with the exception to the last 4 games last season, he hasn't kicked his own arse since he got his new contract, same as whittaker.
I want to see mccoist boot these prima donas arses.

If naismith done his job right, hearts wouldn't have beat us, and We'd have been playing in the play-off for the Champs league

Rikkisixx

19 Aug 2011 08:56:53
Allow Ally to get the team together. Dunkie Bear

19 Aug 2011 08:36:26
Just in from a nightshift, I didn't get to see the game. I do not know how poor we were, but by the reaction of a helluva lot of people on here, I am guessing it was cr@p. I don't know why we are all getting our knickers in a twist here, Scottish football at EVERY level has been plummeting down the rankings for the last 20 years. We are just not the force we once were, Malmo should have been the warning to us all this season, what a pile that was at Ibrox, but it came too early in the season for us, play them tomorrow we win 5, 0r 6. Maribor took SIX off the Hibees last season ( two legs ), so they are no mugs at this level, but we will probably beat them and go through. I agree with one or two concerns though about what might happen in the group stage, we need strength added and a top striker. I do not agree with the Ally and team bashing mentality, that should not be the way RANGERS fans react to a legend. No he's not a manager, but that is all the more reason why he needs our SUPPORT. We need to back Ally and the team, until they say enough is enough and let him go, but he really does need a cash injection, not a rebellion to oust him. Stick with it Bears, I see a sunny horizon coming our way. We will scrape past M/Well and then TONK that lot next week........................ Stay together Bears, 4 in a row

Couldn't agree with you more

19 Aug 2011 08:35:36
McCulloch, Edu, Broadfoot need to go ASAP No pace, no creativity, offer nothing

19 Aug 2011 09:05:04
All the negativity on here is well over the top. You don't give up hope when you are one down at half time and that's exactly what stage we are at in this tie. McCoist cannot be blamed for last night at all. He put a team out last night that created enough chances to win two games of football. The blame falls on the players that didn't convert they chances. I'm 100% confident that we will turn that mob over next Thursday without any problems.

I think you are right the players are at fault, but McCoist has to take some blame. I will be happy watching the game on Sunday as Edu will not be playing, McCoist should realise that the likes of Edu, McCulloch need to realise there are young guys looking to fill their places...young players who in my opinion are far better.

19 Aug 2011 08:19:37
Gers are in a bad way doesnt matter what colour of specs we look through, i'm glad we went out of champions league, mr whyte would have pocketed the 15 million and this team wouldnt have win a point.
The gers grim reaper

19 Aug 2011 07:50:49
Had a nights kip and a cup of coffee (still canny believe the 2 goals we lost tho) we'll get better week by week go through next week and do 4iar , it'll happen
a loyal bear

19 Aug 2011 07:27:15
Get a Grip all of you ally haters .
Lennon went through the same last year

19 Aug 2011 07:21:33
McCullock is going to cost Ally his job he is as mobile as a brick wall but unlike a wall you can get past McCulloch. Lay of Edu not the best but least he covers the ground on the pitch

19 Aug 2011 06:42:32
NEEDto calm down Bears,Players will come before end of Window.Seen last night that we have enough to beat Maribor at Home...Chill out guys.

19 Aug 2011 05:00:59
Does Broadfoot get a game, because he whinged that he would go on loan, if he didnt. Let him leave now, my pub side needs a defender to put pressure on our pub back 4.

You can have clubfoot if you want for your pub team i would be suprised if thay even played them

19 Aug 2011 03:30:12
Ortiz is shocking man.........got the ball on at least 10 occassions in their half, and never attempted to go past a player once, he played the ball back on every occassion, i posted last night about all you lot on pi***** your pants about the two yanks, well Bocanagra must be the only 5ft 6'' centre half in the planet, and he's finished, and boy wonder Bedoya, from the massive Swedish club and league is torture as well.....we;re a joke

At least he didn't give it away, unlike Jig, Wallace, Broadfoot, Naismith, Davis,

Plus height goes for everything in a centre half doesn't it....oh wait Cannavaro, Lothar Matthaus. How do you know he's finished, do you work as a physio at murray park, a former team-mate at Stetienne, Fulham, or rennes perhaps. Naw your just a f*nny..Its his first game after a half day training with his new team mates ya fud, And Bodoya coming from a swedish team means nothing. So go and take a Valium and shutit

19 Aug 2011 03:13:40
Guy's, there is no point giving it all 'the Rangers till i die' sh***, that doesn't make us good.....this is dire.

Was all for giving Ally a chance, but he's clueless, and is now not helping himself at all.

Any manager on the planet, makes subs in the dying minutes to break up play and get the result...that's called European experience, in fact it's just common sense.

Ally sits there like f***** big Mowbry watching them in possession and almost just waiting on them scoring.

Just look at the guy's expressionless face and his body language, you can't argue with that, it's all over, no point getting the blue tinted glasses on like bampots and shouting WATP, open your eyes and look.

19 Aug 2011 02:47:22
Alright heres the thing. I didn't see any passion out there besides Jelavic and maybe Edu(shocking I know) When we scored I saw our players just stand there unamused. WTF? No team chemistry. I wont point fingers at the coaches but somethings gotta give and I'm affraid it might be Ally. He doesn't deserve it totaly but the team just doesn't seem to care. The attitude on the pitch was sad. No passion=No play. We have to have shooting practice cuz we could've won by 3 or 4 tonight if we could've gotten the ball off our feet. I still beleave. Anyways if we're not in the Europa would it be the worst thing? Focus on the SPL title for next season and continue to build the team for next seasons CL. Let septic go and waste their time on the runners up league. JMO. We ARE STILL THE PEOPLE

BNBrad

19 Aug 2011 02:28:07
So the answer to our humiliation at the hands of inferior opposition is to sign more players?
John Fleck must go on loan?
Greg Wylde is a greedy so and...
Ally just needs time....
Craig Whyte is tight wi the cash.......

B*ll*cks

Fleck is a talent who is not getting a chance.
Wylde is a LEFT winger, hard to come by and he has pace.
Won't get a game even though he is on less money than Healy, who NEVER plays.
Ally needs time?
12 GAMES How much time does he need to figure out what the fans already know, his midfield does NOT work and needs a fresh approach.
Jelavic is running wide through lack of support from WINGERS
Ally is trying to be Mourihno with players, adapting them to new positions.
But Mourihno had a hundred milliion worth of talent, not a few guys coming to the quiet end of their careers and looking for the last big cheque.

And Whyte........

The guy gave us a breather from Lloyds, we signed a few players which should help us win the league and by signing up our big players has stopped us being raped in the window for buttons.

If you want the big Euro success, go support Man Utd like all the other fairweather fans cos you won't get it here.

Rangers till they smoke me but I reserve the right to criticize a simple product made to look complicated.

Ally is a legend but if he is not the answer, who is?

Reasonable answers only please.

Bawjaws.

Tell all rangers fans .. im a celtic fan and i know greg personally ... its not him thats being greedy his father wants greg to seek another club because he feels greg is not getting enough money ... so everyone can stop saying that as i said im a celtic fan so no reason to lie greg wants to sign as he has been gave a car from ian durrant before and treated well at ibrox

I want Ally to be a success, I desperately do just to shut those alledged fans up.... But if the worst came to the worst, Billy Davies would be my first choice, Butcher my Second, McCall or Huistra my Third. And Wilkins as Assistant Manager to any of these guys

rikkisixx

19 Aug 2011 02:35:26
Was it just me or was that Ref tonight totally whistle crazy?
Seemed to kill off any flow to the game early on which led to the players on both sides being edgy and more likely to commit silly fouls?

A thought, that's all.

19 Aug 2011 02:14:04
Everything thats wrong with the Rangers team

This is how bad things are at Rangers - Mo Edu has now become our best player. The guy isnt all that, ability wise - but puts his heart and sole into every game and sometimes shows some nice touches.

Davis has become too comfortable and a bit lazy.
Ortiz not too sure of his full ability due to him being played on wrong side, but a decent winger would be able to play on both sides.
Mcculloch & Weir needs taken to the glue factory.
Naismith has to cut out the diving and moaning s**t
Broadfoot - again tries hard but is incapable.
Wallace - what idiot sanctioned a £1.5m payment for this guy? papac is twice the player with twice the passion and commitment

I think a contributing factor to Davis growing laziness and lack of quality is, due to being mentally exhausted and perhaps fed up with being the sole spark, playmaker and whatever else in midfield for so long. I'd get a bid fed up putting in shift after shift, without much decent effort or quality from the rest of the midfield. Slight monkey see, monkey do effect perhaps.

Mate put the crack pipe down ffs. Wallace and Ortiz are just in the door, Davis and Naismith try 100% in every game and always give us a shift, McCulloch is decent enough to have around the squad. Broadfoot was ok last night and done well to set up the goal, although i admit he only has one decent game in four. Weir is too old and has to call it a day. Why all the doom and gloom it's half time in the tie. Get over to Ibrox next Thursday and support your team.

19 Aug 2011 02:02:48
walter walked away at exactly the correct time i will stick by us through thick and thin but last night was embarassing
BALLYBOY

19 Aug 2011 02:00:20
Rangers will still win the leg.I don't see how slating McCoist will help the team.I thought this was a rumpled site, not a moan about everything.Follow Follow.

19 Aug 2011 01:19:00
I think this is a no bad team?

McGregor
Whittiker Goin Bocanegra Wallace
Ortiz Davis McKay Bedoya
Jelevic Lafferty

Thoughts?

I'd have Naismith instead of Ortiz and Ness would probably feature somewhere in midfield if and when fit. Right now, I'd give Perry or MacMillan a shout in defence also.

Papac in for wallace - wallace is mince

19 Aug 2011 01:07:29
was almost crying at that tonight , why don't we play wylde , Ortiz always goes back and never even thinks about past a man , his crosses irnt the best either but with wylde we have PACE and someone who looks to take people on , aye ad rather wylde took on a man and lose the ball 3 out of 4 times than ortiz passing the ball back , get Ortiz out , get Mcculloch out , clumsily out and give everyone in that team a swift kick up the a**e , none of them look to be playing for the jersey

19 Aug 2011 01:03:45
craig whyte has done ally mcoist no favours at all, rangers could have sealed that game in the first half if they had a finisher like a miller or a goodwillie but an all mouth penny pinching multi millionaire has cost us the champions league and now the europa leage well done

19 Aug 2011 00:45:43
To be honest i've said from the off i didn't think it was a good idea appointing mccoist. He's too friendly with the players and doesn't command the respect needed. Walter Smith was never a man you wanted to follow, it's nearly impossible for ally to live us to what has gone before. The performances so far, especially in europe have been poor, tonight was woeful. We should be beating malmo and maribor comfortably. We need a run of good performances and we need them son, to help bed in the new players and get a bit of belief in the dressing room. Without that, based on tonights performance it's difficult to see a future under ally, it pains me to say it.

Last time we beat them 6-1 on agg. Now look. But then again before last season, the last time we played PSV we beat them either 4-0 or 4-1 and 1-0, Chealsea 2-0 then got humped 3-1, etc etc

19 Aug 2011 00:26:43
Edu, mcculloch, Ortiz, broadfoot should all be showing the door not at the standard tht rangers need.
Rangers team should be in my opion
Mcgregor
Bartley
Goian
Bocanegra
Wallace
Bedoya
Davis
Ness
Wylde/or Naismith if he gets his act together
Jelevic
Trickovski (hopefully)

18 Aug 2011 23:53:19
Hey ally, whats the point in buying another striker, when we play with 1 up front all the time. Jelavic must be happy with 60 balls punted up the park for him to beat 4 by himself. Naismith needs to spend more time playing, instead of whinging all game. I dont think Ortiz is as bad as you all saying. He keeps posession, has good touch, and reads game. He is just played out of position. McCulloch is finished, release him now. Edu at least shows enthusiasm, and tries hard, but he just isnt good enough. Davis needs a kick up the arse to wake him up. Did Broadfoot win a competition called "Be a Ger for 3 years", because he is nothing short of atrocious. If Ally cannot see that we are crying out for 2 jinky wingers that create stuff, and a partner for Jelavic to link up with, we would crush these amateur European sides. I pay good money to get the games lives in Australia, and stay up to all hours to watch them live, and the s**t i have to endure is a joke. Its been a long while since i was booing off my beloved Gers in my loungeroom. We have subs which just sit there game after game. Dont tell me we have a small squad, when players like Healy, Hutton, Ness, Kerkar, Beattie, Bendiksen, Perry, Wylde, McMillan, Cole, Hemmings, Fleck etc. dont even see the park. Yes, most of them are young, but who cares, they are keen, and willing to work hard and create stuff. Its the same 11 every game, with no subs, no direction, and no game plan. Come on Ally, i love you mate, but this is not good enough, and your tactics are rubbish. I will still support you Ally, but my patience is almost worn out. WE NEED SPME CREATIVITY - WHAT ABOUT WEISS AND EREMENKO. Proven flair, and proven ability. Maybe bench some of these big heads (Davis, s**ttaker, Broadfoot, Naismith,McCulloch,and Edu) and play some youth at Motherwell.

What about:
McGregor
Perry, Goian, Bocanegra, Wallace
Bedoya, Hutton, Ness, Bendiksen/Wylde
Healy, Jelavic

I know its a young team, but they are fresh, have no ego, and will be determined to create chances. The core of the team is experienced, and could do a job on Sunday. This will then show the big heads that Ally means business, and wont cop their petty ego's.

Come on Gers

He had a shocker tonight but wheres davis?

and maybe goian bocanegra wont be an ideal partnership after tonights antics

I agree with most of what you're saying. Won't happen though. Edu, McCulloch and Ortiz will start.

18 Aug 2011 23:53:07
Fu*king hate ppl saying ally is not the man for the job. The guy has wrked under Walter and learned his trade give him a chance Judge him at crumbowx


Ofcourse I hav heard the roumers that bawbag whyte doesn't won't ally n that Billy Davies is cumin in In January to take over LOAD OF PISH

IN ALLY I TRUST

Who knows what Whyte wants or doesn't want in a manager.. if things continue the way they, then we will find out sooner rather than later.

18 Aug 2011 23:45:44
If jelavic gets injured, shut the doors

18 Aug 2011 23:45:37
Ppl on this make me sick Bet none of use even turn up n support the team but ur happy to sit n slag them Its not allys fault we canny bring players in above 500k Get behind the team or dnt f**kin watch them at all

Get the blue tinted specs off

I'm sure at least half are season ticket holders.

18 Aug 2011 23:42:45
what happened to "in ally we trust"?
get behind your team and have faith that you can score a couple next week.
do you really want wee davies as your new manager? fan power always works guys

18 Aug 2011 23:38:59
At this stage things aint great but we really need to get behind the team. Everyone can see what went wrong tonight but voice ur anger at full time This is only half time in the Europa League qualifier If we don't beat these no hopers at Ibrox we are in serious serious trouble but at least til then....we need all supporters onside

18 Aug 2011 23:36:35
Question of sport lookin for a new captain ally cause if we get beat of motherwell and go out of europe what I expect will happen, bye bye sally.
The gers grim reaper.