Rangers Banter Archive January 19 2015

19 Jan 2015 22:48:58
This football club is a total shambles and has been turned into a circus, with kenny mcdowall now resigned he should undoubtedly follow ally mccoist and placed on gardening leave, no wonder there's no motivation from the players, to have any chance of gaining promotion now to the premiership we need to appoint a new manager until the end of the season who can squeeze & motivate every ounce out of the players we currently have at rangers, give billy davies the rangers manager's job until the end of the season and I believe wee davies will get us promoted with the current crop of players we have at rangers, make this change before its too late because the players all know mcdowall is leaving

20 Jan 2015 08:02:20
Mcdowalls heart wasn't in it from the start.He had that apologetic look about him all the time.

19 Jan 2015 22:03:00
Credit to McDowell, I think he like the rest of us I trying to increase the pressure in the Board to go now! Bit of dignity from McDowell how often can we use that word in he last three years!

19 Jan 2015 21:54:45
McDowell resigned, uz think durie will be given job? Bet that's whatbhappens

At least MacDowall has done the right thing, others should rethink their position.

Geezer announced this on Clyde earlier tonight.

Why has he resigned, something's going down

So that's another one for gardening leave as he too has handed in 12 months notice does none of these parasites know how to resign without screwing us for as much money as possible without having to work for it. if EGM dose not go with king and 3 bears I dread to think what will happen.

Will he be put on gardening leave? What an absolute mess we are in!!

3. Agree, think Kenny knows something we don’t.

Good for Kenny. He's telling the board to shove it where the sun don't shine!! IMO.

So will we now need a care caretaker manager to replace the caretaker manager?

The sáme day Ashley announces money for new signings!! I guess Kenny didnae believe him - what a surprise

What manager would want to work for that board.

Mcc the knife, you beat me to it, with your post, anybody willing to work for this board would need to be more like a scab (picket line breaker) a completely sookin up the fat mans farter.

19 Jan 2015 18:52:04
a see the board are at it again trying stop anyone getting into ibrox board room a think they must be trying hide something very big if there are going to all these lengths to let one and in this morning stock exchange announcement I see they are rolling out Charles green punch line saying they will spend money on players how far does ten million stretch they most think we are buttoned up the back they said it was for running costs for rest of season now trying sweating the deal we all no what there promises mean so do not be fooled

Craig they will spend money on players. Ffs why did they sell McLeod if we need players, how people can't see how bent these feckers are it's unbelievable, liars pure feckin liars, every last one of them liars, liars.

Geo, your spot on, you can't believe a single word that comes out their mouths, I don't even believe the shi, e that they're thinking of putting up ibrox and Murray park as security. fkn lies and scare mongering, the bustards are hiding the truth about these, but while nobody knows the truth about them they're using them for their own ends. it will all come in the washing eventually. gary

19 Jan 2015 20:48:32
they are up to there neck in it mate will try every trick in the book to worm there way out of it so they come out squeaky clean news for them it ain't gona happen the supporters are now starting to unite

19 Jan 2015 20:49:08
Why would they not think the fans are buttoned up the back? As a fanbase Rangers fans have proved time and time again that they're ripe for the taking. I've even read people on here today asking why Ashley is such a bad idea?!? Couldne make it up. Gullible is an understatement, some folks will never wake up despite the alarm bells ringing loud and clear.

Guys I would not be surprised that if they went out and bought players cause if they take Ashley's money this would be a way to spend it would give Ashley control over ibrox and Murray park hope i'm not being paranoid but just don't trust the devious toe rags.

19 Jan 2015 22:33:12
Bay, finally somebody puts it into words it's been like an elephant in the room for fecks sake!The people most to blame in this whole sorry debacle is us. Aye I said it,us because of the lame apathetic way we have stood back and let this unfold.

The truth hurts but it is undoubtedly the truth.Never mind savours and white knights, we have had ample opportunity to unite as a fan base and make a difference but we have failed miserably. And before anybody says it I include myself in that assertion.

17 Jan 2015 20:43:46
Alright ed, do u no when the rescheduled game between Rangers and hearts will b played?? A was thinking this Tuesday would b great, get the game out the way, what do u think?

{Ed039's Note - SPFL will announce the rescheduled date by end of week)

19 Jan 2015 16:45:37
OK, I realise I might get pelter's for this.

Why exactly are we all against MA again? It's not meant to be a cheeky question, honest!

I am writing this whilst suffering the same ignorance on the actual insider dealings at Ibrox as we all are, so here is my confused take on it.

MA can without doubt use Rangers to his advantage. Whilst that is fact, why is it an issue? He could, if he so wished, have Rangers playing in the CL every season for a fraction of the sum he has so far spent at Newcastle. This would bring him and his companies vast advertising and revenue through global demand for top's etc, and we would get to watch top quality football again, so you would assume that is mutually beneficial.
He has loaned Rangers cash and is, we are told considering loaning them a vast some more. Now Rangers are a basket case with various party's fighting for control. Why then would he NOT want to secure his loan? If not Ibrox or Murray park what else is there?

Rangers top of the SPL, in the CL and not broke = happy punters and happy MA

I understand we would all be happier if he would come out and give us all a clue about his plans but the fact he has not does not mean he is an evil developer only looking to build new supermarkets in Glasgow! Why would he want to, there is much much more to be made from a high flying Rangers football club

Just sayin'.

{Ed001's Note - just to point out, he can not use Champions League to advertise as the advertising hoardings etc have to be given over to the UEFA sponsors. So he has no interest in qualifying. At Newcastle he has openly said he has no interest in anything but avoiding relegation and they should not even bother trying to compete in the cups.}

Your right Ed, but whilst he can't pop a SD banner round the ground the profile and interest it would generate for Rangers would help fill his wallet through ticket sales and merchandise. Avoiding relegation would not be an issue at Rangers with his cash, as I say, a fraction of what he spent at Newcastle. The more success on the field, the happier the natives and the more his tills ring

{Ed001's Note - how does it increase ticket sales and merchandise sales versus the cost involved in getting there in the first place? This is the ignorance of fans. They haven't a clue about the costs involved in running a football club. The return from a successful Rangers is a mere fraction of what winning a cup would bring to Newcastle's income. The TV revenue massively outweights any other source of revenue.

It wouldn't matter what Rangers do, they are never going to come near to bringing in as much as Newcastle do. The Prem teams each get as much from the TV as the whole of the SPFL get put together I was reading somewhere. Merchandise and gate receipts are a fraction too, especially when you consider the size difference in the stadiums. Plus I would very much doubt that ticket prices at Newcastle are not significantly higher than ticket prices at Rangers.

Anyway, it is irrelevant to anyone that knows anything about Ashley and how he operates everything he owns. It is minimal outlay for maximal return. He cuts wages, hence why Newcastle struggle to keep players and attract talents that any other team has an interest in. He cuts all other operating costs to the minimum. Then he hoovers up all the profits. Oh and his initial investment is always done as a loan, so he can later take that back out when he feels like it, though usually he just leaves it and continues to take the profit out in other ways.}

Op. I think the ad answered your post, like we all would, but being fair the ed has answered it in a more modest way than a lot of us would have answered you post, get these bar stewards out of OUR club.

I think Mike Ashley could see what was coming, and by offering a loan against Ibrox, forced King and the 3 bears to act now. I truly hope you guys have the votes to oust these thieves.

To answer the question MA is 45m to the good on transfers in and out of Newcastle so you will not get money from him.

And he is the guy who could have probably had his pick of good managers but plumped for Dennis Wise and Joe Kinnear.

{Ed001's Note - and Pardew was only given the job to pay off his debt to Llambias. Meant he was working for peanuts.....}

1. ) According to the DR Ashley has not spent a penny at Newcastle and believe it or not is actually in profit by forty odd million.

The problem with that is that they do not win anything!

{Ed001's Note - and they still owe him money from his initial spend in buying the club which he converted into a loan.}

And I seen the new contract for the TV revenue will be going up to 7million pound per game, this is the figures mention in new contract, for all e. p. l. t. so Ashley is toying about with us, why are some of our supporters not doing more to get this lot to, feck.

I think the phrase used in Glasgow is "you are a boton pal" best sums up your crazy post.
ashley loan on Ibrox and robing us of 90% of all kit income?

You are nuts

i am george

Ed, youll need to excuse this fans ignorance, but Celtic seem to be doing quite well out of the CL are they not?
As for Rangers and Newcastles income stream not being comparable at the moment, I agree. However that's not because they are Newcastle, its because they are in the EPL. Now whilst not being disrespectful to Newcastle, they do not have the global potential of Rangers or Celtic. If you own the rights to sell their sportswear, that's important.
So whilst we don't have the rewards available that the EPL offers Newcastle, we have different revenu streams open to us that Newcastle do not. We also play in a league that costs a fraction to susceed in as compared to the eye watering fortunes it takes just to survive in the EPL. Our only real competition would be Celtic, but that same rivalry generates even more interest and revenu

To the other kind contributers, including the guy who reckons I'm a buton. no, me either, do you guys really think Mr King or his allies are NOT going to try and make money here?

For what its worth, I really hope King swings it, I really do, and I'm not saying MA is NOT a cockney shizter! But I'd rather a decision is made, someone can then take this club by the scruff of the kneck, end this blood letting and back stabbing and get us back to the club I remember and love

But then again, I'm just an ignorant fan.

{Ed001's Note - what revenue streams do you have available that Newcastle don't? They are one of the richest clubs in Europe, Rangers are small fry.}

What revenue streams do you have available that Newcastle don't?

We have a global fan base that far outstrips Newcastle, and for that matter most of the teams in the EPL. It's one of the main reasons why both Rangers and Celtic are anything other than slightly bigger versions of Hearts or Aberdeen etc
A resurgent Glasgow Rangers, properly marketed, would find it's worldwide fan base major source of revenue. And as I say, how much do you think it would cost to get Rangers top of their league and in the CL compared to Newcastle. ?

{Ed001's Note - are you really that deluded? It is a waste of time talking to you, the truth is obviously not going to get through to you. Don't waste my time again thanks, I have told you what is happening but you are too blinkered to see the truth and believe you are still globally relevant. Has liquidation taught you nothing? Where was this 'global fan base' you speak of then??

By the way, if you had been able to understand the question, which clearly you didn't, you would have known that you are not talking about additional revenue streams, just trying to claim that you have bigger ones. It might help your cause more if you understood the subject you are wittering on about.}

19 Jan 2015 11:11:56
any bears fans in dundonald in Ayrshire make a barricade at the sports direct warehouse down there and start hurting Mike Ashley where it hurts the most in the pockets and as stated before step it up 100% Rangers is in our blood and our family we need action now asap

SSB. I suggested that all the Bears boycot Any store that Cashleys was involved in. I was shot down in flames by a couple of people on this site. I for one made a conscious effort to avoid all shops he is involved in. Google them mate.

Aye an wid bo another who loans the money does not own club whoever gets the result at the egm will own the club

19 Jan 2015 10:46:59
If ever there was two fingers stuck up at rangers supporters, the statement Made by the board is clear evidence they do not care about the club or supporters. Announcement tomorrow, fat mikes cash loan accepted, that's what I expect next.
A full boycott is needed NOW!

Boycott and protest needed today action required asap

19 Jan 2015 11:19:47
Totally agree utter contempt shown for the support and the board will try every trick in the book. A total boycott of all Ashley products and boycott of every home match for the rest of the season or till the asset stripping board are gone.

Here's a wee reality check, boycot cut all income streams, rangers default on loan, administration, maybe liquidation, and Ashley owns the stadium.
Rangers 3 starts up, your left with 2 options rent ground off Ashley, or go elsewhere. That is the cold hard facts, the talk if boycotts is just too little far to late.
This should have been nipped in the bud when green pushed through the share issue so quickly, he came away with some sound bites, and everyone went along with it. This is the year rangers should have had the share issue, and building a team for spl, not in the bottom league and throwing money at z list players & management team.

19 Jan 2015 09:18:03
And so the posturing by all parties involved takes another step. It is not surprising that 'our' board have taken these steps. The boards neck is extremely brassed.

In the Daily Record this morning it mentions that Dave King is being investigated by SARS - South African Revenue Services, however, what the DR fail to mention is that the investigation is not about DK, but how he himself was investigated prior to him being indicted, and subsequently charged and fined.
SARS is looking into 'illegal' search processes carried out on 'tax evaders' in South Africa, and if proved unlawful, DK could be given a complete pardon and charges dropped - meaning that he will not have a criminal record.

Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we flatter to deceive!

19 Jan 2015 12:40:11
But as things stand he has not been pardoned and HAS a criminal record. Just so I'm straight in my own head , you want the sfa to step in and stop a legitimate businessman taking over at ibrox and you then want the sfa to break their own rules and let a convicted fraudster to take over . This is just madness.

What I want is King to step in and remove ALL of The Board; or the Three Bears to step in and remove ALL of The Board; and/or both together The Three Bears and Goldilocks to remove ALL of The Board.

In essence, what I want is Rangers men running Rangers.

Fellow RB I agree most wholeheartedly

BOARD OUT MAGATH AND MCINNES IN

If King is Dodgy then some other good chap in!

The Future is Bright the Future is Blue!

Royale bloo

Royale Bloo - we might just be related?

I don't think King is a stupid man.
I think he has savvy and is beginning to mount a challenge. We can only wait and see what happens.

If I was honest, I would prefer The Three Bears take up the mantle with DK helping out with the financials, but I wished they would hurry fech up and sort it out.

The Bored have stated that they are in negotiations with two separate parties - I presume that thus is Ashley and The Three Bears.

This is where The Bored have to be careful, again - they cannot go with Ashley if The Three Bears are offering more beneficial terms than Ashley.

19 Jan 2015 08:57:49
As widely predicted on this forum. the Board are trying to have King's request for an EGM thrown out due to the "unsuitability" of those King proposes to have elected to the board.

Rich coming from Somers and the Sleasedales! couldn't have a board made up of more unsuitable characters!

19 Jan 2015 09:19:00
Does one of the easdales not have a criminal conviction for the same thing as Dave King?, and surely if this is the road the board are taking to stop an E. G. M then its only a matter of withdrawing himself and Mr Murray from the proposed board members and replacing them with two others for the time being. I also noticed the board are trying to get fans on side by saying some of the loan would go to improving the squad. I right!.
r. f

Rf ide imagine mr king would have expected this move, and will have an answer to it, as far as loan money helping the squad lol, he is talking about the squad in the boardroom lo.

Neither Easedale has been a director of any business that has faced an insolvency event in the last five years. Dave King and Paul Murray have so neither can legally sit on the board of Rangers at this moment in time.

This is not just an SFA rule as far as I can see it is the rule for any UK company but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

As I wrote yesterday I cannot see DK's plan here. Is it an ego thing?

Why not let the 3 Bears take the lead?

19 Jan 2015 12:37:10
I hope he has George 123, but it would be beneficial to have a back up plan for two other candidates for the board just incase of any doubt. like your comment about the "squad" on the board lol.
r. f

19 Jan 2015 14:16:22
Naz you are right mate,I hope Kings ego has nothing to do with nominating himself.It could scupper the lot,why jeopordize the EGM?I'd rather Parks camp handled it.

19 Jan 2015 13:50:28
Naz is it not also the case you are not allowed if you have a criminal conviction as one of the easdales have?
r. f

King is not stupid he will be fully aware of this BEFORE he requested the EGM this will go ahead in 40 days the board are just trying stalling tactics.

BOARD OUT AND POLICE IN TO CHECK ACCOUNTING PROCEEDURES

bluesnakeskincowboyboots

One of the greasedales was jailed for a VAT charge.

The EGM will go ahead at worst 3 Bears will do a back up request the fact they are trying to oppose it tells you everything their days are numbered count them down

BOARD OUT BEARS IN

Roya;e bloo

R. f. I am no expert but I really don’t think so. In fact I would guess there are many convicted criminals on boards across the UK.

Rf I was meaning mr king would have two other names to put for ward, should the case arise,

Naz I think the convictions think only come into play if someone, anyone is looking for full ownership, and as no single person is trying full control, I don't think it will be a problem, I hope it's not a problem, but like I said to rf I would imagine mr king has this under control, as I think he is wide enough or he would not be trying to get involve, but as I say this is only my opinion on it.