Rangers Banter Archive July 19 2013
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19 Jul 2013 22:38:33
i honestly think we should offer derek riordan a contract because he's a goal scorer and he`ll do it on the cheap say 2 grand a week then there's our defense this pandza wants like 8 grand well how about signing darren dods he`ll work for say 500 pound I mean if I was manager I would save rangers money, thanks for listening
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Too much trouble bring miller back
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I may be old but my son would say " trollolololollolololllolololl "
Otherwise, away and have a word wi yersel. Riordan is a jakey wee w@nk.
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Darren Dodds has signed for Forfar
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Give Nicky Clark a chance the seasons not even started.
41 goals last season speaks for its self, and along with Little, Daly, and McCulloch we have a few striking options.
If Miller returns that will limit appearances for both Little and Clark.
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19 Jul 2013 20:20:35
Mohsni won't be signing for rangers, he wants a 3 year contract and rangers are only prepared to offer him a 2 year contract, there's also a problem with wages, it's the same thing with pandza fellow bears fans, when told this news about an hour ago I was pig sick {Ed001's Note - you said he wasn't joining because he was going to Forest, which is it?}
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19 Jul 2013 21:30:21
Look am not really agreeing with anything you have said but something must be up Gers fans or surely he would have signed by now; this just seems strange and I hope that were not just left looking embarrassed, anybody no or have any idea what is happening???
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Well if he or pandza or both sign. then great. If not, never mind. On to the next one. No need to go getting rolled over by agents over wages. If they wanna sign for rangers great, if they don't and are after big payday. Then cheerio.
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Maybe just putting himself in shop window by playing for Rangers against lesser opposition and looking the part?
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Look, not being funny bears but what's the desperation to have the boy sign for us. Granted he's done well in a couple of pre season games but how many of you had heard of the boy before he arrived on trial? I'll hedge my bets that none of you had heard of him. Equally, I have heard of no concrete interest in him from other clubs. As some of you may know my missus is Pompey through and through and her cousin is Southend. In her cousins opinion the boy has some ability but is without doubt a liability and not a team player. If he's willing to accept that he's lucky boy to play for the Rangers then great, if not I'm happy for him to find another club. We are the famous Glasgow Rangers, we don't need to pander to player who are looking to use us to make a name for themselves. All welcome but don't ever think you're bigger than the club.
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It's just a Celtic fan at the wind up did you forget about your IP address sir? Pandzas not coming I think that deal died at the start of the week it's too quiet on that front. More likely be the club balancing the books & possibly trying to get Naismith off the bill 1st I believe big Moshni will be a Rangers player this time week as there is no concrete interest from anyone else. Has anyone seen the video of the big man doing thriller zombied up in a promo video for Southend it's quite funny certainly a character. Also a video of him scoring a Hatrick for them so he is a big threat from the back which we've not really had for years. Can anyone remember our last defender who was a massive threat from set peices? Don't say Madjid "Pele" Bougherra lol
Larky Bear
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20 Jul 2013 20:11:54
Butcher. King Richard and Bomber, ( Jackson that is )
oh and Big DJ, when he played at CH
TB
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19 Jul 2013 18:19:09
Im just going to come out and say that I would welcome Miller back. Reason being he would bring good experience to our very young squad. As long as he was on a wage similar to every one else, I think he would be usefull in the cup. He is still scoring goals in the MLS, which if we are being honest is probably a higher level than the Spl theese days. I know many of u will disagree but that's just my thoughts.
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I don't think the teams that young anymore if he bought in Miller & we got an SPL team in a cup I can almost guarantee the team would be something like
Bell
Foster Cribari Jig Wallace
Sheils Black Law Temps
Daly Miller
It's a shame because I'm really excited to see Gasparotto, Mitchell, Crawford, McLeod, McKay, Aird & Clark. Not that they would all be in my team at the same time.
Larky Bear
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19 Jul 2013 15:54:40
Friendly fixture announced! Rangers v Newcastle, Ibrox Stadium, Tuesday 6th August, KO 7. 45pm.
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Having to pay the Paymaster yet again. Mr Ashley gets the double here. This is the final insult. We are being fleeced. It time to move or are we still all walking around with the blindfolds on and singing LALALALALALALALALALALA.
Come on Bears enough is enough. {Ed001's Note - or you could just go the game and ensure Rangers make money out of it? What a completely idiotic post. Newcastle will only get paid an amount the club expect to cover from gate receipts.}
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Great, I wonder if we will see any of the fringe Newcastle players who we were supposed to get at this game?
I am all for us working with Newcastle in loan deals as it keeps our costs down in transfer fees ect.
Dounebear
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@1 - I'm slightly worried about the finances but your post is total paranoia! person
fauldsrfc
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@ 1
Definition - Used to open a door, can be a portion of butter, in this case description of person on Rangers Rumours.
Word - Knob
Thats you that is mate. george
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19 Jul 2013 14:46:36
cant believe the excitement about the rubbish we have signed. star signing jon daly a 31 year old free from dundee united wow amazing. pathetic what's happened to this once great club. ally and his two stooges. even thinking about re signing kenny 'i love blinking' Miller is a joke he is a little cheating diving headless chicken who can't score goals.
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Calm down fella, where have you been last 18 months? Do you realise we are playing a different level of football than previous seasons. I imagine your on a wind up or not a rangers fan. That's my opinion. We are where we are, deal with It. And miller. Cheating diving can't score goals?
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Give the team a chance it's so much stronger than it was last year & I honestly believe Daly will be a great leader but Nicky Law will be a revelation. Nicky Clark got 41 goals last season at the same level we will be playing this year. I don't agree with bringing back Miller but we sold him at the wrong time as he was on the best scoring run of his career he was awesome with big Jelavic what was it 26 goals in half a season or something like that or am I making that up I'm not 100 %?
Larky Bear
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@op for starters daly no 31 and please tell me when miller dived or cheated and as for not scoring he scored 57 goals in a 111 appearances
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Yes and how many goals every other season of his career he was useless I could score 30 goals a season up front for rangers
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This has got to be one of the most rediculous posts ever. Go and get yourself sorted out man, you're full of sh*t. Who'd you want us to sign?. Messi, falcao, cavani? Get fkn real mate honestly!
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19 Jul 2013 23:13:56
You checked out how many goals kenny scored in is last season at gers. Also scored 49 out of 81 appearances
Get your facts right before slating. On both occasions he was chased out the door
Would welcome him back
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I think it's clear the OP is a wee troll.
Not for signing ex players but diving and cheating?! You are a tube
Miller was and is a great wee professional who done nothing but work hard and score for us.
Still think signing him is a backwards step but if the deal is right and cost effective then let's see what he can do. As long as he's not there keeping a young boy out the team the fine.
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I'm a Celtic fan, and can't help thinking that the OP is too, but not the same ilk. I would never criticise Miller, if nothing else he will always give 100%, and I was gutted when he left us. Don't know if bringing him back is a great idea, agree with Baybear, but I would never slam him. As for the cheat comment, ridiculous.
Shuggy
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J Have sellik fans as mates and when sellik let bhinm, go down south they were livid, see some people know nothing about football, Miller was bought by many good managers, for a reason he brings a team so many options and such tremendous workrate, we can't expect some bottom feeders to understand that, they live in a bowl, as for the guy who coul score 30 a season at Rangers, That my friend would put you on a par with ally mcoist, Derek Johnstone, Parlane, if you know who that is? and Jimmy Miller? who are you with now? Barca, Chelsea,?c, mon own up it is you Edinson ain't it?
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@8 good on ye pal not often you get an honest tim lol
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@10.
Miller ok player but has had his day. Next.
Clark? We shall see.
Daly? Proven and has a year or two still in him.
As for the cash worries? Well like most folk and business' in today's climate it's a massive massive year to come.
Does anyone know any more?
New manager required as current is not up to the job in front of him, take nothing away from his work over past two years under trying times Ally was still hopeless but worked it well and his results say it all. Or can someone tell me any different?
Shona Baird
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19 Jul 2013 14:09:56
A question for the bears
Can we play any of our trialists in the league cup games?
Our second competetive game this season will be round 1 and a 2nd round will also be played in August
just wondering if we must rely on the remainder of the squad from last season to get us past the first two rounds
If trialists are allowed then Ally must think how he will use them and surely priority would ne given to getting us past these two rounds, the league will take care of itself as the months go on
JG
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We have potentially 8games before 1st of sep and we can play 2 trailists per game and each trailist can only play a max of 3 games so he needs to think very long about his selections
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1. To be honest mate I hope Ally is still prepared to give youngsters a chance because let's face it we will win this division without any real problems.
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Do we need to descend into using trialist, when we have second highest wage bill in scottish football, when run risk of challenges, just play with team we have. rather than bend rules.
trialist is for people you trying out, not experienced players you trying to play without paying for.
otherwise anyone could play messi or renaldo.
lets start as we mean to contiue with dignity not underhand methods.
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Post 3 I've said it all along fck trialists end of the day there not trialists there signin on sept 1st if they play rubbish in the 3 trial games are we going to bin them I don't so!therefore start with our squad players that are eligible
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@3. The rules are made. It's allowed. Not bending of rules.
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@5 glasgow rangers already have several massive advantages, stadium capacity, incomes.
football is dog eat dog, if we play trialists ( who clearly are not newbies on trial) this could end in court of sport.
dont see us winning there when our ceo quotedsaying platini useless on tape, and there evidence of bank transfers from money launders to green.
playing established players in not what trialists is about, that's been case for 100 years.
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Can you please answer the question instead of ranting about playing trialists
I know what we can do in league games but my question Is
can we play trialists in the league CUP round 1 and 2?
Jg
JG
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@6 any player can play as a trialist it doesn't matter if their established or not the players there just now they contracts aren't worth the paper it's written on as for court it's the rules nothing to do with rangers say we played without the trialists and got put out of cups a guarantee you would be on shouting for mccoist to get sacked for not puting out the strongest team possible
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@jg if they can play league games am sure it'll be same with the cups
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Answer is no, league and cup have differnt set of rules.
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19 Jul 2013 12:55:53
Rangers reach agreement with Fran Sandaza to terminate contract.
Correct me if i'm wrong but I was under the impression it had already been terminated due to a breach of contract? Everyone was saying he didn't have a case. Wonder how much that just cost the club? We'll probably never find out the true figure.
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Op if he take legal action there would be a cost to the club ie their legal team so make sense to pay him off and cheaper as well
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A few years left on the contract so probably one years salary to satisfy his lawyers and agent.
What was it he was taped saying again?
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A lot less than it would have cost had he seen out his contract. Good riddance, let's move on now.
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Costs about £10k to fight in court, so its cheap to defend but, if lose then full £2mill could be due.
so deal has been made, that's 3 player left this season and we will pay for them for next 6 months.
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19 Jul 2013 22:13:08
OP who was saying he didn't have a case? His case was one most rock solid i've ever heard of. Sacked for saying on the phone that he'd be interested in going to a club that could pay him better? Come on, that's a joke. Do you think it'd be fair for you to get sacked for the same, don't e ridiculous. And @4 how do you know its 6 months compensation, could easily be much more than that. Astonishing stream of heads in sand in this post.
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@5 rock solid case bs he was sacked for gross misconduct and it's illegal to be going after players that way and every football player knows it so sandaza knew what he was doing he quite clearly told the that they wer to contact him before they went to rangers so if that's not him trying to shaft rangers any player who in contracted to a club any team/agent need to contact the club not the player
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20 Jul 2013 13:22:40
@6 It would only be fair to dismiss in that situation if that is how the employer consistently treats its employees who do the same. It no doubt happens all the time, so sandaza got "special" treatment due to the "special" situation rangers were in. Agree not rock solid but he had a good case. That much is obvious or football would be littered with similar sackings.
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@6 it probably does happen but we don't hear about it because I think most player wouldn't just start tellin any random that fones everything about his contract say you wer cg would just have been aw don't worry mate it was just a prank no you wouldn't cause after everybody heard it there was nothing else cg could have done he but to sack him
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20 Jul 2013 21:09:40
@8 Nothing else cg could've done? Nothing else? don't you have disciplinary warnings, fines, penalties etc down ibrox way anymore? Or are they kept only for those on lower wages?
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@9 are you daft any company would sack the employee for gross misconduct he was caught out for being a greedy c**t when that conversation went public there's no way he could have stayed a don't know about other fans but I didn't want him there
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19 Jul 2013 09:00:04
This is no joke fellow gers fans, Nottingham forest manager billy Davies wants to speak to mohsni & his agent as he's missed out in signing the Leicester City centre half, Davies wants mohsni to leave the rangers German training camp to come in for signing talks over the weekend, this story is coming from billy Davies's brother John Davies, as a gers fan I'm so peeved off by this news but it's my clubs own fault, they've dragged their heels and waited far too long in doing the deal for big mohsni, he's a cracking centre half who's slipped through our fingers, terrible! {Ed001's Note - they signed Jack Hobbs instead of Morgan, which makes this post seem a little suspect to say the least.}
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Ed that thomson from channel 4 is one of the biggest rangers hater in the uk why does his bosses not pull him up on this {Ed001's Note - probably because he gets them viewers, which brings in more advertising revenue. The same reason talksport employ total imbeciles as hosts, they just know what to say to get a reaction. The reaction means more money. It is not about truth or honesty or good journalism, it is about money.}
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A heard that Harry Redknapps Tax avoiding dug wis talking to Craig Whyte about well. tax avoiding. then he said Craigy "Arry's wanting big Moshni at QPR" and Craig said "Brilliant thatl noise up they Gers fans" just putting this on now lads before the big story breaks the mora. Will be Burnley or Birmingham on Sunday. Guys been linked to half of Britain.
Larky Bear
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@op do you want fries with that whopper
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@2) And not a single club apart from Rangers have officially registered an interested in Moshni. Its all mince. He will be a Rangers player, without a shadow of a doubt. And because not a single one of these other clubs mentioned want him. He has no other options! that's not a dig, just true. Great news for Rangers because he looks like a player.
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So after all that excitement from op has 'big moshni' actually signed for anyone?
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@1/ nonsense. Thomson was attacking the people who got Rangers in this mess. He has always had respect for the supporters.
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Think the OP must have been getting his Glasgow teams mixed up. Forest have made a bid for Kelvin Wilson. DH
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Forest are trying to re-sign Kelvin Wilson no mention of MOHSNI Attracting the attention of Billy Davies.
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19 Jul 2013 22:18:45
@6 Dead right. But @1 how small is your world that you think the chiefs at channel 4 news would pull the guy up for hating rangers anyway (which he doesnt)? They couldn't give a hoot about rangers, not because they hate us, just i'm sure they've gone through virtually every day of their lives without the remotest thought about rangers. We are not the centre of the universe believe it or not.
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19 Jul 2013 08:32:43
I would give Paul sturrock a scouting job at ibrox as part of a scouting team, what do you think gers fans?
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With all the coaches and scouts you'll be able to give the first team a game!
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Pmsl because he recommended 2 players for you lol
Surprised the guy who recommended Gregs to ally hasn't got a job as head of catering yet lol
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The award for worst bit of banter ever on this site goes to the crackpot who made the Greggs joke.
GRD
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19 Jul 2013 08:07:44
Settled sandaza case anyone know for how much?
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19 Jul 2013 08:05:26
Fran sandaza has reached personal terms with club to tear up contract. That'll be a few bob then.
Walter S claiming a significant amount of money needs found and he doesn't know where it's coming from. (Is the club actually solvent? Or is it spending more than income?). Isn't there £22m from shares issue and £8m from season tickets? This statement from chairman of any company is very worrying.
WS is clearly uncomfortable as chairman and doesn't want to hold this job. He doesn't want to front up an AGM probably and field difficult questions regarding accounts.
Where are the signed off accounts Walter please? Your the chairman and taking the salary.
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Let me give you a wee english lesson, when reading the paper and the words are in quotation marks then that's what was actually said by the person involved, everything else is written by the journalist and you seem to have made up your own words as well
Now what was actually said was
Smith said: “There’s a level of finance we need to find to progress and I’m not suited to that kind of work''.
I think we all know we need further revenue and investment to move back to the top and that walter is not a hard headed businessman, he is there to stabilise the boardroom right now (and seems to be doing ok so far)
One more thing, FFS give it a rest with accounts, the financial year only ended 19 days ago, it normally takes 3-4 months to have accounts completed and audited
JG
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Where did Walter say this? He seems to be saying a lot of things and funnily enough no one can find these statements does he have some sort of secret blog?
Funny how Mather says one day the finances are ok & were living withing a budget then the next Walter says a significant amount of money needs found? I wouldn't love this to be true but I do wish Walter would come out & tell us where were at because I know we're not as well off as we're told. I might be wrong here but I can't find him saying this anywhere was it in the paper? Did he tell you personally or did u make it up?
Larky Bear
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Op were does Walter say this
about money needing to be
found, as for the chairman part
he stated from day one this wasn't
his thing and would be more than happy
to leave when someone more experienced
was found
billy h
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Wee question for the accountants has any other Scottish team released their accounts
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Larky - now you are learning mate, don't just jump in and take everything that the trolls say as being true, look for the facts first
JG (ex K-hill)
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Smith said: “There’s a level of finance we need to find to progress and I’m not suited to that kind of work''.
I think that's more or less what the OP has stated. The club needs significant money going forward. Smith doesn't know how to raise it. It's actually the first time I've heard of a chairman being appointed of a Plc solely to stabilize a board. When there's so many other competences required such as raising finance. Is the board now stabilized? Can he move on and be replaced with a financial city whizz that has the network to raise money?
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JG I appreciate that mate & I know K hill well bud, but honestly I only post my own views I don't listen to what comes out of Shammy, Green Jedhi and all of them. I guess I just never took to Charles Green at all mate and I really dislike that Stockbridge but I hope more than anyone that this board can prove the likes of myself & Bay Bear wrong I really do, like I said I don't always go on like that it's been building up in me since the start of last season. I was just scared we were going down the same road mate as last season we were siphoning a lot of money per month according to Charles. I didn't see how they done anything to remedy that so I got a little bit worried especially with all the fans wanting this player that player when the teams almost complete for the next season or 2 I wished they'd rather we had a bit more stability than 30+ 1st team players. The past few days I've relaxed a bit I just want to see those lads play now because at the end of the day that's what it's all about for me football not business & finances. I'd do & give anything to make sure this club succeeds and brings us fans back the joys & happiness of supporting as the song goes "the best team in the world, the Famous Glasgow Rangers"
Larky Bear
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19 Jul 2013 16:58:28
Just ben checking shares that I owns value and seems to have dropped bit.?
there something on there stating "Charlie Greens shares that are trading thta he's listed as having 1.5million shares less than did 2 days ago? How has he been allowed to sell them? though he was tied in until December?
If this is his I hope like the rest of the bloody chancers he gets a term in the pookie very soon.
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It amazes me how differing interpretations can be. Walter said nothing of the sort in fact what he said fits nicely with what Craig Mather said ie we are living within our means at the moment and will need more money for the future. At no point did he intend to contradict CM or give the fans a scare story. People are nervous enough at the moment regarding Rangers future without their own fans hyping it up! Gbhoy.
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7. Take no notice Larky of the folk who only come on here to parrot whatever the PR guys at Ibrox want fans to hear. You're obviously a passionate bear who cares so much that you're prepared to ask difficult questions!
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@8 new nomad on aim allowed green to tranfer shares to easdale, notice of share allocations on aim
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SORRY ED MY TYPING WAS BIT PANTS EALRIER I was OOT ON WORKS bashx x sorry. come on the Gers, and they all bloody chancers lol
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Cheers for the vote of confidence Larky. Like you and Roy Walker (catchphrase) I just say what I see.
Not daft enough to repeat the agenda of other but I will relate if their thoughts are the same as mine, regardless of what team they support.
Been enjoying being back on the football chat though, cannae be arsed with all this business chat.
For what it's worth I wouldnae by a used motor from Craig Mather,. Hopefully he proves me wrong.
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Haha I know Roy Walker BB I'm no that young lol I agree with you mate 9 times out of 10, anyway I seem to like Craig Mather he seems more trustworthy than previous but I certainly won't "put all my eggs in one basket" Mr Chips. I've half signed up for the RST il pledge my £10 during the week when I look a wee bit more into it & hopefully get in contact with them. You sold me the other night there the more of us that join them can only be for the greater good of the club as they are pretty well received within. Roll on 12 for me to finish work & I can enjoy this glorious weather.
Larky Bear
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@8 make your mind up do you want green gone or not, he sells some shares and your still not happy FFS
Jg
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