Rangers Banter Archive July 19 2018

 

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19 Jul 2018 22:56:59
Really hope the rumours about young Docherty going out on loan are true.

I think he really needs to be playing 1st team football to help his development and think his game time will be limited this year.

Also though, I hope we loan him to another SPFL club so that we can use the same tactic as Celtic have been using for years now.

Loan out their players to other SPFL clubs to strengthen them against each other (and us) and obviously prevent them playing against them which then weakens them and makes it easier for Celtic.



20 Jul 2018 04:56:49
Really hope it isn’t true. Why loan out a good prospect to play for a lower standard of manager, lower standard of player and lower standard of expectation? Makes no sense to me, the boy would benefit more being in and around this team and using the facilities and getting to know the coaching team etc.



20 Jul 2018 07:35:35
I agree with you poseidon. I'm a big fan of young greg docherty! For the record zikos, looks very much like greg docherty is signing for sunderland, on a season long loan deal! Any other team in england except them, as my favourite english team is newcastle utd!



20 Jul 2018 15:03:43
I agree that Docherty is a great prospect but I think players of that age benefit more from playing than sitting on the bench. In terms of lower standard of clubs, I think if he were to go to Kilmarnock he would be working under the best manager in the country atm and would come back a better player.



19 Jul 2018 21:50:20
We will be playing osijek from Croatia in the next round.



19 Jul 2018 21:32:11
Very disappointed to see Docherty heading out on loan but hope it allows him to come back a better player. I am hoping it is Sunderland he heads too, think Jack Ross would use him properly throughout the season.



19 Jul 2018 21:06:46
Looks like we'll be playing in croatia next week osijek look far to strong and are up 2-1 and bossing the game.



19 Jul 2018 22:26:41
watched the game on arena sport they looked good down the left until there number 7 boban got carried off hopefully he'll be out next week, there left back good going forward he got the 2nd goal, defending was a bit shakey pertocub had a couple of half chances and a really good chance at 1 each, number 20 also looked dangerous.



19 Jul 2018 22:44:09
I watched as well mate, to be fair both teams looked fit, strong, fast and direct. Either they both made each other look good or they are a decent outfit, by looks of it we will have to up our game because they didn't look bad.



19 Jul 2018 23:14:32
Osijek already put three goals past st jonstone not long ago albeit a friendly game can we judge of that game how good or bad they are?



20 Jul 2018 04:23:29
Last year Osijek beat PSV 1 nil both home and away so they're definitely no mugs and we can't take them lightly.

To be fair we're not good enough yet to take anyone lightly but they're going to be a tough match.



19 Jul 2018 20:58:51
Watching Hibs game on Premier and never seen a game like it! 8 goals scored and you cannot see one of the goals🤓😭😀.



19 Jul 2018 21:21:54
Now 6-4 - game on astroturf so it's a joke - visibility isn't that bad - had worse at an Arbroath gane.



19 Jul 2018 22:03:15
Yip Osijek. that’s going to be tough.



19 Jul 2018 22:04:00
We are going to need all Stevie’s european exoeriance.



19 Jul 2018 20:51:37
Anybody any concrete info on Ryan Kent? Looks very direct player. Would definitely be a starter. Front 3 kent sadiq and murphy?



19 Jul 2018 19:54:35
We definitely need to get another striker in asap. Who do you think we could realistically get that would bang in the goals? Still lot of speculation of jermaine defoe!



19 Jul 2018 22:10:08
Louis Moult would be a great addition. Similar in style to Morelos with his hustle and bustle but can find the net. Maybe a season long loan deal?

Big Lafferty would be an option but Hearts would try and shaft us for a bigger transfer than what he is worth.

Also if we have 3 million to spend on a centre half I would rather we signed a forward and went with Goldson, Katic, Wilson, cardoso and Flannigan as centre halfs.



19 Jul 2018 22:24:49
The guy from Willem 2 in Dutch league Franck sol would be good signing. good finisher, really good in the air.



19 Jul 2018 23:17:00
Good shout caw I've seen some of his goals on youtube lile u say realy good in the air.



20 Jul 2018 01:26:49
Baz the bear, you really need to set your sights and ambitions far, far higher than a guy who is struggling at Preston and one who is already playing at his level. We don't need Hearts players, we need players that can take us up a few notches in the very near future. Caw5, I posted on here the other day that I heard this guy was already on our radar.



20 Jul 2018 20:57:41
Moult got a barrow load up here for Motherwell I think he'd score a right few for us. Not the most glamorous of signings but I think he would do a good job.



19 Jul 2018 16:55:18
Statement from King

I must say for a long time now, I've not been enamoured by King and Co.

However today's statement had gone some way in changing my mind.



19 Jul 2018 17:25:26
We all have opinion on Dave king, aye he has made stupid/ bold statements maybe without thought but I sense his statements/ speeches of late have improved. I would also say he definitely fights every corner for our club.



19 Jul 2018 19:03:07
Disappointed to hear Greg Docherty going out on loan was really hoping the boy would kick on under SG. I would be shocked if Doc left and Halliday was allowed to stay.



19 Jul 2018 19:26:31
I'm really surprised Docherty going out on loan, but we need to trust the manager.



19 Jul 2018 20:14:56
Cannot believe Docherty going out on loan and the useless Halliday staying. How are we supposed to try and compete with that lot with him in and around the squad.



19 Jul 2018 22:05:15
Maybe Gerrard feels Docherty not quite ready as the midfield will be vital this season no point him sitting on the bench he's only 21 he can come back in January and it could be like signing a new player . as for halliday who says he's staying the window shuts at the end of August.



19 Jul 2018 14:34:49
See reports that sheff Utd bid £10 mil for waghorn. Wonder if we put sell on clause in place. It’s amazing how in 12 months he is worth 20 times what we sold for.



19 Jul 2018 14:52:09
Blue nose offer is 5 million, would be nice if we had a sell on clause of 20%.



19 Jul 2018 15:14:45
We should have definitely had a sell on clause after selling so cheaply, big mistake by the board there.



19 Jul 2018 15:16:02
Just shows how ****ed the football is down there with the prices. His last season with us he could not kick his own arse. Maybe we might get half decent cash for morelos after all. 5 mill for windass. We can only dream.



19 Jul 2018 15:35:43
I remember mick McCarthy talking about price he got waghorn and garner for. Said it was an absolute steal. Don't think there is any sell on clause as Pedro thought his two Mexicans were better and boy was he so far wrong. .



19 Jul 2018 15:36:29
Paul 86 agree re selling other players, let's not go cheap for guys like fod and Morelos or windlass if we sell.



19 Jul 2018 16:24:27
Not many warburton players left at rangers, I think only Fob and Tav. The agent done well getting them such good deals.
How was mcpharland allowed so much latitude on deals.



19 Jul 2018 16:41:34
Waggy and joe were driven out the door by the boo boys . the board appease the fans at every turn so no one can point the finger st the board. It was the support who wanted them out the door for the Pedro revolution.



19 Jul 2018 17:10:19
I was a garner fan.



19 Jul 2018 17:23:26
The lack of forward thinking by the board when selling players really concerns me. Can anybody think of a player we sold with a sell on fee included? I cant.



19 Jul 2018 19:28:23
No, I question the role of mcpharland and the agent who represented most players .
The lady who is the front must have decided loyalty.



19 Jul 2018 12:40:40
Obviously not Rangers related but i read Adam Rooney has signed for non league Salford City and getting a significantly more wage than he was getting, he's expected to get £4000 p/ w, i wonder how much the sheep were paying him, typical Aberdonians lol.



19 Jul 2018 13:03:33
I wouldn't laugh seeing as they finished above us last year. We are paying worse players much more than they were paying him.



19 Jul 2018 14:13:01
You could say good business, it's not all about what's getting paid.



19 Jul 2018 14:22:56
Lol MikeGer, they might have finished above us but they still couldn't beat us on a personal level, that shows they can't handle the big games and you say we're paying worse players much more, is that my fault? i agree, there were a few Dick Turpins at Ibrox, SG is now weeding them out.



19 Jul 2018 17:13:34
Did I say it was your fault?



19 Jul 2018 18:38:26
greg Docherty to go out on loan according to STV.



19 Jul 2018 12:36:21
Good luck to Harry Forrester he will need it. I'm out in Iran the now and its 38 in the shade . If he couldn't train well in the uk then he will struggle here. I hope he's got big lungs as he will need it. From what I heard he's getting more. money than at ibrox because of no signing on fee . Mutually terminated his deal for free but this could be torture for him.



19 Jul 2018 14:18:16
Agreed, he's motivated solely by money and he's looking for what appears to be the lucrative easy option otherwise he wouldn't be in Iran. Can't believe people are disappointed we've let him go his attitude and commitment was a problem even before he joined us.



19 Jul 2018 14:54:58
How can anyone be disappointed he is gone.
Hopefully mark Allen sorts out contracts of all new signings.
All these guys were signed b4 he started.
Does anyone know if Flanagan on basic then appearance money, read this somewhere last week.



19 Jul 2018 15:17:08
Never good enough for Rangers, had already showed numerous times in his career that he wasn’t overly interested in putting the effort in.

I have no malice for the lad, we took a gamble and signed a dodgy player short term.

Whatever moron at the club thought it was a great idea to offer a useless player, with a terrible track record through out his career and only ever showed brief glimpses of ability a 3 year contract on decent wages is the real villain in the story.



19 Jul 2018 15:37:15
Warburton wanted him.



19 Jul 2018 15:40:56
Had a chat for an hour about this tractor mob with a guy based here in middle east. He said they average 40k every home game. They have plenty of cash and have all sorts of sports teams. Money no object . I can tell you right now forrester is here for. money alone and will be lucky to get on the park if rumours about his laziness is true . I'm blowing out my arse walking to office . Humidity is awfull. Playing at night makes no difference he won't last.



19 Jul 2018 16:51:21
No one on here that I have spotted said they were disappointed he was gone. dissapointed it didn’t work out maybe and wishing him all the best. 90% of modern day footballers will chase the money. normal and nothing wrong with that . that’s why they are called professional. professional means does it for a profession or living ie the money. I’m a professional poster now . just waiting on my first salary cheque from ed.



19 Jul 2018 11:23:18
Hi new member here. Been enjoying reading posts. Decided to join to have a bit of banter with fellow blues. Reading in paper this morning about Stevie looking a quality finisher. Just wondering who fellow supporters would like to see putting the ball in the onion bag at least 20 times or more a season.



19 Jul 2018 11:52:01
Kris Boyd mate.



19 Jul 2018 12:45:41
Welcome I'd have loved Mcburnie though I think I'm the only one who would. Oh and ignore the disagrees you just said hi new member and some muppet already did.



19 Jul 2018 13:19:14
Don't think Boyd the right option. We can't go backwards to go forwards New blood needed.



19 Jul 2018 14:20:03
Rooney on loan for when the MLS season finishes in October, heard it here first haha.



19 Jul 2018 14:36:22
Heard a rumour we were doing a swap deal with Aston villa fods for mccormack.



19 Jul 2018 15:03:43
Hammer who would you like us to sign to score 20+ goals this season.
Same old names being mentioned by the media.
Solanke, Defoe, Lafferty, Ings and a new name today Janseen ( Tottenham) .
I think we will sign someone on loan especially if he is currently with a club affiliated to the EPL.



19 Jul 2018 15:37:54
I'd want Defoe.



19 Jul 2018 16:36:08
Defoe or Jordan Rhodes, but of course Sadiq who we've actually signed on loan. Oh, and my mate Hardie - oh no, he has gone to Livingston on loan. I know, let's loan out a striker when Morelos and Windass couldn't kick their own arses, or anyone else's for that matter.



19 Jul 2018 16:54:24
As a lot of people are saying, its early days yet, and maybe Steve G doesn't know his best formation yet, but its obvious to all that we don't have the personnel to play a lone striker, morelos made his name at his previous club in the penalty box, not coming back for the ball at the halfway line, he needs support and at least another striker to play alongside, Steve G said after the euro match that he was concerned about the final third, let's hope he has some ideas to sort it!



19 Jul 2018 17:05:45
Doiger unfortunately Jordan Rhodes has been loaned to Norwich for this season so he's out.



19 Jul 2018 17:17:53
Think c bear was winding you up my friend. the catering couldn’t handle Boyd back at ibrox . anyhoo he spat dummy out because we wanted rid cause he only scored three goals in a season. even then alfredo gets more stick and he got 18.! ps the disagrees are par for course . my record is ten.



19 Jul 2018 17:20:04
No I take that back, . My record disagrees was about 45
When the ed was winding me up ( thot I didn’t kn but I did )



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19 Jul 2018 06:28:14
SG whys is he playing Windass out of position?
Declan john never put a foot wrong but isn't getting a game, why?

Daniel Candeias in mf? Get hm oot right.

SG is no master tactician as far as i can see. then again i'm only a Punter.
Keep it simple SG.



19 Jul 2018 07:46:47
Here we go a few games into his reign. I’ll have Flannagan at LB before John all day long as he’s a proper no nonsense defender. Playing 433 where can you fit Windass in as a 10? He’s playing in an advanced role and should have at least 2/ 3 goals under his belt already. I do agree with Candeas but let's see his team when they are all available to him. PATIENCE IS KEY 🔴⚪️💙.



19 Jul 2018 09:07:04
LDM17,i Would also have jon flanagan in our starting 11,but not at the expense of declan john! I would have flanagan at his more natural, right back position, declan john at his natural position of left back and move james tavernier forward, into probably his more natural position of, wide right midfield! That IMO would give us the perfect, more natural balance, within the team!



19 Jul 2018 09:34:00
Punter I think so may have decided he wants to play a certain shape formation i. e. Why we see candaes where he is. I think we will see coulibally playing where candaes is.



19 Jul 2018 10:48:54
John is injured apparently in training. Back injury that’s prob why he isn’t near the team I’m sure by September we will know who his first team is.



19 Jul 2018 11:38:58
LDM17, spot on mate.



19 Jul 2018 12:05:02
copland bear he is fit to my knowledge but his grandfather just passed away. Super Cooper If Tavs natural position is RM then Johns is LM. John is poor defensively and having a solid platform at the back is KEY to success with any team. You will NOT see Tavanier there he will play and Captain the team from RB. The formation might change as more players come available to SG.



19 Jul 2018 13:40:43
LDM17,imo the good majority of right or left backs are more comfortable going forward than defending mate!
Regarding flanagan, you can see that he's right footed and with better teams, may get taken apart on his outside, if he remains at left back!
Thats not a criticism of him, its just not his natural position! I really like and rate flanagan as a player!



19 Jul 2018 14:41:18
Super, Tav will play RB this season in regards to
Flannagan he’s right footed yes but he can defend. If you look at the goals and the stats from last year it does John no favours defensively. You need to be solid at the back if that means playing Flannagan at LB so be it. let's see how set up when he has all players available to him and the window is closed.



19 Jul 2018 17:37:10
totally agree with you supercooper i'm also a liverpool fan and can't recall to many bad games for liverpool or us the kind of player you can trust to give his all and never shirk a tackle and i think its a no brainer to at least try tav at right mid.



19 Jul 2018 20:16:59
Not 1 Rangers Coach or Manager has played him there for good reason obviously. I don’t disagree he could do a job there I just don’t see him playing anywhere but RB. But let's see when the squad is finalised.



19 Jul 2018 21:03:00
Yea he did play there once or twice . can’t remember who it was . maybe Pedro but he played really well.



19 Jul 2018 04:04:39
Stuz watch the Europa tie again . windass was certainly not poor.



19 Jul 2018 06:35:53
I thought I watched him get subbed off mols. He certainly was poor AND lightweight.



19 Jul 2018 07:15:01
Subbed because of a yellow card . constantly drove forward. won a good few 50/ 50s had a good number of powerful shots on goal and tackled back more than he has done in past. missed a couple of headers but his overall performance for me was better. but I suppose you can’t please everyone all the time . we will see if Stevie drops him. but I certainly wouldn’t.



19 Jul 2018 07:26:27
Molsgoals, he got subbed after 60 mins and was never in the game and that’s his usual 😭.



19 Jul 2018 07:43:00
For me Windass is wasted on the right or the left, he is best used centrally as an attacking midfielder or a 2nd forward and to claim a permanent place in one of those positions he needs to do more moving forward. Everyone knows this and it’s early days but no one can deny he has improved year on year. SG is very mich the man to improve the frailties in his game if he can’t then no one can but I feel he will thrive when we have other options and we no longer rely on him to be in the mood.



19 Jul 2018 08:38:38
mols your saying he missed a couple of headers add that to the couple of headed sitters he missed in the home europa tie also some of his headed chances are harder to miss than score.



19 Jul 2018 09:11:32
Wee bear, couldn't agree more! Josh windass most certainly isn't a winger and he's ideally suited to playing the central, attacking midfield role (no.10), thus being able to time his runs that undoubtedly is good at, or as a second striker, playing quite close to our centre forward (no.9)!



19 Jul 2018 09:35:15
Queens 11 u r right, but there is something he and Morelos can work on in training. Heading a ball.



19 Jul 2018 09:36:04
Molsgoals, oops, you've opened a can of worms :-D i don't need to watch it again, Windass is nowhere near consistent enough.
On another note, i was looking at the squad numbers, no number 9, will Sadiq be given this number or has SG got someone lined up?



19 Jul 2018 21:05:05
It’s ok stuz was just lookin at getting my disagree count up.



19 Jul 2018 01:34:12
Listen, I will probably take pelters for this post but just my genuine opinion on Morelos. I agree with most bears that his performances over the 2nd half of last season and also the 2 European games have been woeful but I think ex managers have to take some of the heat for this as since he's been at the club we have turned him into something he's not, a lone striker. When he arrived and played alongside Miller I think he scored half his tally for last season by the end of October/ start of November when he had scored 9 goals in 8 games? He was still full of confidence from scoring goals in Finland and I think playing as a lone striker, in that team last season has his confidence shot to pieces! Nowadays he does nothing well and almost looks afraid when the ball comes to him anywhere near the goal which can't be said when he first arrived. Yes he missed but he was always back in there. Now he spends more time on the flanks than in front of goal and we are relying on very average midfielders to make runs past him to get us goals. I think it's a bit unfair to criticise him so much when he's being asked to do a job that he's not suited to. I would also back this up by saying that 90% of the posts I read on here during the Chinese speculation in January were that nobody thought he was worth less than 12m which suggests to me he was no bad to begin with? Apologies for War and Peace there folks but give the guy a chance. Maybe playing next to Sadiq will bring the goals back. Let's hope, let's go 🔴⚪️🔵.



19 Jul 2018 07:16:20
So if we had miller standing across from him in the old firm games and others he would have scored all they sitters,



19 Jul 2018 08:01:51
No that’s not what I’m saying at all chips. What I’m trying to point out is that over the course of last season he has been managed poorly, played outwith his natural position which is in the box and has lost the confidence and knack of scoring goals! He’s no Messi but neither was Boyd and look how many goals he scored but Walter Smith had the know how not to play Boyd in these games as he wasn’t suited to the lone striker role! Goal scorers thrive on scoring goals and when confidence is low they are as good as useless. I do believe he is a finisher, I just think we need to find him the right partner up front and take some of the pressure of him.



19 Jul 2018 01:01:15
did not watch both games against fk shkupi only caught a few mins here and there as i was busy at the time

but in the parts i did see there 19 year old LB basillio ndong owono done well against us until he came off well he did in the few mins i watched here and there while i was busy

he might have been shocking all game and just in the few mins i seen him he looked ok but my point is

in these qualifying rounds i hope players that do well against us we keep an eye on i am not saying try to buy them but keep an eye on until xmas or next year

and if they do well we could get players like that cheap that LB is valued at 90k on transfermarket i know that's not exactly what he would be worth

but prices are so inflated in other markets we should be looking for gems in teams like this and if they do well i hope we keep tabs on them

look at hibs buying flo kamberi at 250k i think that's a steal and will have a good sell on value because he done well last year and think he will be even better this year.



19 Jul 2018 21:07:06
Jamsey how can you be to busy when the mighty we’re on? Hope you were busy with you kn what then. even then a dogey excuse.



18 Jul 2018 23:37:37
Why is windass not playing through the middle. He scored most of his 18 goals in the second half of the season playing through the middle . Candeias had the most assists playing down the right, we will see the best of them if they are played in there best position . I am not sure 4-3-3 is the best formation for us but it's early days and with the two new lads in now it might help . I have full faith in stevie g and think we will click soon and see some great football.



18 Jul 2018 23:32:52
We all might not agree on Morelos or Windass, but I'm pretty confident we all agree we need that number 9 shirt filled with a new striker, preferably one we own and can sell on in the future.

Hope Gerrard and Allan have something up their sleeve, plenty time left in the window however, would just like somebody in soon for these Europa qualifiers!



18 Jul 2018 22:15:02
We will not go far in europe with Windass, Candeias and Morelos as our attacking 'threat'. We need a creative winger or attacking midfielder or someone to make the final 3rd tick. All 3 are good players but not of the standard we need unfortunately.



 
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