Rangers Banter Archive March 19 2013

 

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19 Mar 2013 21:46:59
On the news tonight that colt teams is not an agenda item for voting on at SPL and SFL regarding reconstruction. So no more mention of this red herring please its nonsense and finished. Nobody wants the £4,000 Charles.

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Big story is D. A. F. C - they don't own thier ground so no ability to pay the £134,000 HRMC bill or other £400k outstanding bills.

Lesson: own your ground or you have no fallback plan.

Who owns IBROX?

Bears should worry if this not crystal clear - what's to hide?

If RiFC don't OWN ibrox (without any security attached) nextbig Winding Up Order could send RFC back into admin again, and a further 3 more years added to time to get back to CL and the £10+million bonanza.

fans need to unite and get seat on board for thier ST money.

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Green said if fans bought shares there would be fan presence in board and Ally concurred on telly, saying no reason to disbelieve him, remember?

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And Green also said he'd buy any leftover shares himself.

Has he?

Nope.

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Green initially said it was £25m shares and he would buy shortfall. Then just before he said it was £20m flotation. Then he said he made £22m and huge success.
So on original promise he has to buy £3m in shares. Honest and true.

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Cant buy what's not there! the other share were bought by outside investors

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How can Rangers have a colts team? what division would they play?

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Last I heard craig whytes father was set up in a new company and ibrox & murray park was transferred to it.
big bomber again raised the question on SSB the other night. Anyone here the rumour that whyte & green were on the same flight from london according to a st mirren supporter

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19 Mar 2013 20:57:56
Surley this season ally nd co have spotted young hungry talented players in div 3??

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Ive really not got scooby by the way wee moisty

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Their are young talented players in div3 but most part timers.

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They're all hungry in DIV3. Ally ate all the pies.

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Probably sign that boy from Elgin that's 6'10" HIGH BALL HIGH BALL HIGH BALL!

Larky Bear

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Ally couldn't see the spots on a kid with chickenpox mate

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19 Mar 2013 20:56:30
Please god CG is genuine and we have no reason, at this moment in time to doubt the man, however I too have serious concerns about the future of our club, I fear that all isn't as it seems, murray has been far too quiet throughout all this,, we can't pay the money we apparently do without major investment, if that is in the pipeline then we need to be told, as we watch crap, we will co, we need to knoww, were we, re heading,, or rangers will epe with that if we know there is a silver lining, in the meantime we are ridiculed by people who hate rangers,, and a message for Tam, when I said 50. 000 per week' u knew wot I meant, didn't you, and I will always wear blue tinted specs M8, {The Ed039's Note - There has already been major investment)

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19 Mar 2013 21:22:16
Ed, I do apreciate ure reply, but I mean major investment in a major football club in the future, this is a club, which offers a fan base almost untouched by most major european clubs, and beyond europe also, CG if he is what he says has identified this, and if and when' we get back the top I belive there will be a new european league or cup which will bbring major clubs like rangers and celtic back to the fore,, and to be fair I realise sellik fans will say at this moment in time they're are already there, but there's no guarantee they will be next season, these two clubs are far too big for scotland,

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I think we will leave the ridiculing of trfc to chico verde he's doing a grand job himself marty

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Green history as ceo shows one pattern, other Rangers sites and blogs won't allow posts from sheffield fan review of greens abuse of thier club, and now people doubt greens latest demands.

mcmurdo claims witchhunt against green when truth is out there. not xfiles.

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Wake up tommy, you don't doubt green! look at his record at sheffield fc, or ceo of a medical company, or arab building company. all financial disasters.

show us some finacial sucesses in greens past and we can stop worrying.

green wants to move to england, is that a real plan. or no-loose gambol for him.?.

may win conference, but doubt any other success for years in england. if gers can walk into epl so can 100 other teams. pie in sky.

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Why did green pay £2million for a car park?? how does that help reconstruct the gers brand??

thats two more months at burn rate. only a fool would spend money on worthless assets. where is long term profit in car park??

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Well the truth is Green said he was leaving last month if Murray wasn't removed. Well Murray is still there and Green has backed down and lost face. I think he wants out as soon as possible with a pay day but the big problem is jn a loss making company that whatever cash holdings you have dwindle away. Month on month so the decision is get out quick with some cash or stay until the bitter end. At the end of march don't think even £10m left in bank. Six international players linked with rangers by McCoist only 3 weeks ago when bad accounts came out. Nobody on pre contracts.

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My biggest gripe is the bonus payments being talked about for winning the league

Ally and Charles both reported to be on 300,000
Two other directors on 100,000+
The coacing team on significant wedges

This means aprox £1,000,000 this year and we can presume more for the following years

Promotion to the SPL over 3 seasons will end up using most of the cash raised by the share issue from the bears - is this what we spent our hard earned on!

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@7 you hit nail on head, Green says gers global brand worth £500 million in few years, so with 10% of that he makes £50million easy peasy - just do it.

So why bleed this global brand by £1m a year for directors bonuess, when progression back to top is a given??

this does not add up - a conman would be taking money at every change, and green is filling his boots now (salary/expenses), bonues, filling his friends in the city (£2mill for float) and ex-friends (£1m to find investors), and £2 mill on more assets? - its the great green giveaway.

Fans gave honest £5m as part of £10m warchest - and green spending it as fast as he can. on unnecessary items, not players on the field, or training kids for the future.

Sounds like sheffield all over again

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Ed039 what major investment?

£5mill from fans. if there is £19mill+ in bank there would be major bank involved, there is not just metro with £2 million limit on accounts.

club loosing £1mill a month. accounts and prospectus only showed protifs due to revalutaion of assets and goodwill - accounting tricks - don't be fooled a 2nd time,,,,!!

if you doubt this facts ask a question. {The Ed039's Note - Yes, there was £5million investment from fans, but there were also instituational investors. this why there was a cash reserve of £21million at the turn of the year. Where have you been?)

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@4. may win conference? it will take longer to even get in that league than spl. conference is a premier league.

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18 Mar 2013 23:24:59
How the fu** can rangers fans put up with this person green talking shi* and getting well paid for it. I just wish this man could answer the simple questions like who owns ibrox, how can you trust him. It's getting beyond a joke now, at the beginning it was good banter but I'm now actually thinking he's mad and very dangerous for you're club. I wish you well and I do mean that

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If it was not for Charles Green and his backers then we would not have a club, this is why I put up with it.
The whole truth may not be out there yet, he may be looking to sell to someone else for a profit BUT he has stabilised our club and put a team out, he has also paid the monies owed to other clubs which is a big plus. I do not always agree with what he says but I am delighted that he sticks up for our club.
Iain

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Green wants a home game at Ibrox every week. One week first team second week b team.
He wants to fleece fans twice. All his money comes from fans and he's greedy for more. It's never enough.

Ibrox playing surface will be torn to shreds.

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Rubbish! Green has'nt met all his football monies to Other clubs. eg St Etienne, Arsenal Man City etc. And would they be a better man if he paid monies to all the small shops and individuals who were left in the lurch rather than trying to bribes scottish football to accept the reserve team of a 3rd Division team??

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@4 I think you will find that it is more directed at not giving money to any other teams when Rangers are away from home! This would be in line with your supporters' clubs boycotting away games if they don't get promoted!

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I just wish Green would stop talking pash at almost every opportunity. From HMRC giving him the nod that a CVA would be accepted (really Charles or did you just dream that one?) to his offer of taking up all the shares not bought in the share issue (has he forgotten about that one?)

And I thought he was dead against changes in the league structure in the middle of a season?

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@2 well said mate

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Who owns ibrox is THE issue.

what if its whyte or murray?

Fans paid £5 mill for what, to buy car park from murray for £2mill?

green talks about leauge reconstruction (a feint) all the time. never about finance.

Are the current stars leaving after TUPE year end, and next year is kids only - hence need to get into higher league as kids won't win div3?

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@1. So you are not worried who owns Ibrox? You are fine with the possibility that Charles Green has been lying and whyte has his sticky fingers in there? Pathetic.

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@8. reconstruction and finance are inextricable in that the higher league Rangers are able to compete in the more Mr Greene will be able to charge for season books,, thus generating greater cash flow. I'm not suggesting this aspect is the primary driving force behind his objectives for the club as it's his duty as CO to ensure Rangers compete at the highest level available but the link between the two are inseparable and integral to the future wellbeing of the club moving forward.

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I believe Murray Park is owned by David Murray and Murray Group and Lloyds ensured it was there and not with RFC before Whyte.
Lloyds still owed hundreds of millions by Murray group? And lloyds working in Charlotte square?

Why was Murray Park not renamed as promised? Buy a season ticket and you will have a vote on three options for Murray park. His lies only fool and impact upon rangers fans nobody else.

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Most likely sceranrio is green holds deeds but there is security over them. and if club fails this gets paid first.

this would explain what deeds unavailable for auditors to review prior to the prospectus.

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Sorry bears, the guy is a joke, he should be setting an example, get no pleasure from saying this but rangers standards, from the dugout to the boardroom have nosed dived

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@9. What has that to do with who owns Ibrox and Murray Park?

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Celtic fans talking crap against cg the man knows what's going on behind close doors in spl and once the police finish the enquiry into who leaked rangers affairs the jail will be bursting

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The paranoid mad men on here ranting. MURRY AND WHITE NO LONGER HAVE ANY INVOLVEMENT IN RFC. Stop messing with yoir fantasies lads.

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Craig Whyte broke cover months ago and clearly stated two things 1) he introduced Charles green to D&P and 2) he held a charge over Ibrox and Murray Park (and he successfully moved it offshore to his bahas Liberty Capital). His exact words were he held a charge over the assets and everybody knows that!
I presume this is his insurance against Ticketus liability.

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Think Murry will have plenty of money soon, when the Glasgow polis dig out the people responsible for the publishing of information they should not have been privy to. Would not like to be in their shoes Murry will sue the a--- off them. Would not like to be in their shoes. Barlinnie is not a nice place (story DR today

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@17, and where is this money coming from exactly?
Al

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The people he sues for leaking the information and those he sues for broadcasting & distributing it. simples

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