Rangers Banter Archive March 19 2016

 

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19 Mar 2016 12:34:06
im not to worried about the result last night, half of those players in the team won't be playing or first team players for us next season, and even sir walters team used to have the odd slip up, if i remember right falkirk beat us in our prime with a guy called richard cadette scoring a couple.



20 Mar 2016 08:29:35
These results happen. The team didn't play well 2nd half and got punished. They happen at the top level. Just got to move on, I trust the team. We won't Hibs it.



18 Mar 2016 22:21:26
After about ten minutes Collins n delia must have been scared and for the last ten minutes they must've been laughing. As much as I'd like to see Falkirk finish second I don't want them getting points at our expense. We stopped at 2-0 where we could have quite easily went on to 5 or 6. Mckay n Miller were excellent but tavenier and Halliday were absolutely awful and at times I didn't know holt was even in the park. Whatever happened tonight needs to be nipped in the bud right now.



20 Mar 2016 00:10:27
Totally agree said the same but some of the guys can't see by Halliday who was poor sorry I'm old school kissing the badge doesn't get my attention you need to play football to get that Barry McKay best on the park subbed! Why.



20 Mar 2016 08:58:03
Bongo

2-0 up, all over them, seemed ok to give him a rest for the games coming up but could not have seen the folding up. I am not McKay's biggest fan but he does take the pressure off the guys at the back when he is on.
Think you are right about Halliday, don't doubt his love for the club but he is struggling a bit at the moment.



20 Mar 2016 14:40:04
Halliday is playing out of position since we don't have a quality holding midfield player and that has been an issue all season. I am sure that this will be addressed by the management team in the summer and it could be that the Accrington Stanley boy will do a job.



18 Mar 2016 21:27:30
Have to say i'm very glad we have reminders like this that we have a long way to go yet and forget all the over confidence about beating celtic

we are underdogs but very strong underdogs and a side improving every month

Well played Falkirk fighting back

KT

ps I still think we will beat celtic on the day as there manager is so awful at dealing with big game pressure and has np plan B ever.



20 Mar 2016 08:33:44
George, he won't need to be a great manager, I fear fir Halliday and the defence, seriously, they are pxxh, but we ain't used to being attacked, still a certain guys " prominent source" has got it sorted
Tommy.



19 Mar 2016 20:54:46
It is quite simple now, if we win 3 of our remaining games, we go up as champions. Three out of seven, and without counting our chickens, we will do that, and this situation only kicks in if either hibs or Falkirk win all their games.



19 Mar 2016 21:00:22
U r not quite billyb, two wins and a draw would suffice, regardless of what the other two do, sorted.



19 Mar 2016 21:09:13
Look at the next three and ignoring last night as a lapse in effort, they should be wins!



19 Mar 2016 22:12:06
Stuzo, technically you are correct, assuming goal difference kicks in, as it stands, but let's just agree that 3 wins is game, set and the title.



19 Mar 2016 22:33:15
Woul I be correct in saying that we could win the league at home in our midweek game v's Dumbarton?



19 Mar 2016 19:26:53
perfect hibs get beat great result.



19 Mar 2016 19:49:38
Right lads the weekend started splendid with the famous ripping Falkirk to bits for 45 mins then it started to go down hill. Ended up losing at the end and the other mob won the league with a 90th minute screamer. but I have to admit Cummings skelping the bar from half a yard has certainly eased the blow a wee bit. Looking forward to next season and a few good signings in the summer. After 4 years of absolute hell let's enjoy being back where we rightfully belong.



19 Mar 2016 19:25:44
well done the rovers. shame about last night but as hibs are finding out the championship is a hard grind. our manager maybe learned a few things last night about complacency . someone mentioned about moh being used as a striker. worth a shot imo. he's got height ball control etc. seems a waste out on the wing.



19 Mar 2016 22:38:03
MOH would be a better option as a striker than Clark!



19 Mar 2016 18:01:09
For the past 3 years you have been banging on about how the top league is not the same without rangers and there is no competition there.
Yet now you are in a position to get up you all now want Falkirk to go up.
Why not Hibs? Since you are so concerned about the state of Scottish football. Hibs are clearly are a better team and bring more to the table.



19 Mar 2016 18:20:07
Falkirk are deservedly in second place and I would say that's why I would rather have them go up with us.

Hibs drop their arse when it counts that's why they're in third.



19 Mar 2016 19:13:18
I love going to away games and 1 of the best is Easter road so would like hibs to go up. Being honest who would u rather hump. Hibs or Falkirk. No way would I miss beatin hibs at Easter road.



19 Mar 2016 19:16:30
Apart, Rayman, from the fact that they lost to Raith Rovers tonight! lol.



19 Mar 2016 19:27:16
Would love to get Cummings in the summer if hibs stay down. A think Stubbs messed up wif the stokes deal as Cummings has went backwards. He would fit rite into our pass and move game.



19 Mar 2016 19:32:58
Rayman I think the way Hibs have conducted themselves under Stubbs and Dempsey has been disrespectful towards Rangers from day 1. They tried to bad mouth themselves into title contenders and it backfired spectacularly. Manners cost nothing in life.
Falkirk on the other hand have went about their business in a quiet but effective way and have built their team through having a great youth setup, not loaning everything bar the kitchen sink from Celtic. Therefore I think they deserve to go up, and the fact that they have more points. Hibs are where they are due to bad footballing decisions, we are where we are due to a conspiracy which will be proved in a court of law.
If you go back and read an earlier post of mine a few days ago I said that there should be 16 teams in the top league, the fact that Rangers, Hearts, Hibs, Falkirk and potentially Dundee Utd and Kilmarnock could all have played their football in the championship in the space of 3 years proves this in my opinion.



19 Mar 2016 20:37:14
Rayman, you say to quote '' hibs are CLEARLY are a better team '' how do you work that out, certainly current league positions don't show it, not to say at season end who knows, but i have feeling you may be somewhat blinkered by your obvious leanings.



19 Mar 2016 20:44:24
I've been far more impressed with Falkirk than i have hibs rayman all 4 games have been very tight and could have went either way but against hibs we dominated every game the game they beat us 2.1 we should never have lost it! hibs have went backwards since January and Falkirk have remained Steady and consistent! hibs are a bigger club and would probably offer more to the spl but on this season I would say falkirk are more deserving to go up if they can manage and Stubbs will wish he kept his mouth shut after all there budget will be a lot more than falkirks.



19 Mar 2016 20:53:38
Rangeken

Hibs do have 2 games in hand over Falkirk, reached a cup final and are in the Scottish cup semi final so currently they have had a better season than Falkirk however the play off between them could go either way and I doubt the Hibs fans will be looking forward to it. Just shows how vital it was we won the league as you don't want to get embroiled in the play offs.



19 Mar 2016 22:09:39
Buffo 316. Cups r always a bonus. It's WER u end up in the league that proves how good u r and Falkirk r showin hibs up just now and deserve praise although ad rather hibs went up.



19 Mar 2016 21:48:24
Think promotion was the objective though Biffo and Falkirk have the wind in their sail now. Hibs have relied on Celtic rejects to try and get promoted, Falkirk have produced this team by their own means.
I think Falkirk have been really unlucky, their team would have been good enough to get promoted under normal circumstances had Rangers and Hearts not been in the league the last 2 seasons l. All Stubb's bluster has came back to haunt him, he honestly thought he was getting the Celtic job next year, he'll be lucky to still have his Hibs job at this rate.



19 Mar 2016 22:56:39
This is why the saying: opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one exists.



19 Mar 2016 19:05:48
That's like the people saying man united should get in the champions league even if they don't qualify, just because they are 'man united'. You say hibs are clearly a better team? Where do you get that from I doubt you've probably never watched them play. They are second for a reason.



19 Mar 2016 20:42:20
Rayman I've always predicted on here that i thought falkirk would go up, and i agree with recbob when stubbs said he would rather see allan siting in there stands than cell to us that was enough for me.



19 Mar 2016 23:49:09
You are where you are because of a conspiracy lol. That's a good one recbob. When will u take responsibility for your own actions. No humility whatsoever.
You will only get respect when and if you pay your debts since
u claim to be the same club. ACT like one then.
You are only the same club when it suits you.



19 Mar 2016 21:14:21
biffo316, think you may miss my point, Rayman says CLEARLY the best team, unsure if he includes rangers in his statement, (albeit those of his leanings a few ago weeks were purring that they may win the league) yes hibs have 2 games in hand over falkirk if they win both and make up a fair amount of goal difference they would be level, the only point i was trying to make (to an obvious green blinkered ) was how are they CLEARly the best team. the season is not finished for any of us.



20 Mar 2016 09:21:49
Recbob you talk about respect and then claim you are where you are because of a conspiracy, your right the old rangers conspired to spend more money on players and wages than you were earning, why not man up and admit this, you know the first step to making a real recovery is to admit your mistakes .



20 Mar 2016 10:58:02
Our mistakes haha? Our mistake was letting the board do what they thought was best with money and I'm sure something similar happened at your mob. Pacific shelf, name change etc.

Us fans had nothing to do with the financial meltdown our team went through and Rayman why don't you just admit you are what you sound like with posts like that, a typical selick fans who's favourite word is zombie.

I am sure recbob means how only two clubs wanted us to stay in the spl.



20 Mar 2016 17:58:44
The conspiracy I'm talking about is between White and Duff and phelps, which is getting investigated in a court of law as we speak. Get your information right before posting please.



19 Mar 2016 15:46:29
Well done to Falkirk, they deserved it more than us last night. Would like to see them get promoted with us this year.
Hopefully the players learn from this and push on for the rest of the season. Maybe Warburton might be a bit more reluctant to change it on the hour every time after this.



19 Mar 2016 17:18:28
It's worrying though that we have lost all 3 games away to our closest rivals in the championship. It shows a weakness in the team. However quite why Warburton subbed our front 3 is baffling.



19 Mar 2016 18:26:35
I agree that it's worrying and shows weakness but I think regarding last night's display that we switched off at the back and became complacent when the front three went off.

As though there was a "ah well pass the ball about the next 35mins, we're winning this" attitude.

Definitely a poor display but the team has got quality. Although I agree with biffo316 regards to getting quality in for the step up.

On to next week and getting the first of the four wins needed to get promotion. (The way Hibs are going at moment though we may need less? )



19 Mar 2016 16:23:44
Apart from last night the subs at 60 mins have served us well one game can't/ won't change that, that lad hippolyte changed the game for them and the defence couldn't cope with his pace it's a simple as that.



19 Mar 2016 17:58:32
Biffo do you ever post anything positive? Haven't hibs and Falkirk lost all games against us at ibrox? We were naive yesterday and thought the game was won and the manager made some wrong decisions, the league is woman's imo brought off our best players to prevent any injuries, imo if we weren't so far ahead in the league none of the subs for the players would have been made, onwards and upwards.



19 Mar 2016 15:45:32
Watched game last night and was over joyed with two quick goals and dominant play for the first 45 then what a mess. Loss of hunger, sloppy passes, poor first touch and poor positioning ultimately cost us the game. When played at 6ft tall and centre half it was my job to attack attacking corners along with other like minded players. Wilson Kiernan and ball can't jump for toffee and want the ball placed on postage stamp. Surely wier can teach a few tricks here. We will win the league but perm teams won't be losing sleep with this heckle and Hyde showing.



20 Mar 2016 09:12:00
Rangers and Hearts dropped down for non-football reasons,
Hibs were relegated and will stay down for football reasons.

I could no care who goes up -apart from us - both Stubbs and Houston hate us, the best team always wins the league and correspondingly the poorer teams do not go up.

RAYMAN
As far as competition goes, me and my mates always have a close, competitive finish in our golf games - but the standard is crap -its about standard not competition, that's why your team is got humped in Europe.



19 Mar 2016 14:18:05
Sorry guys, that should have read Falkirk were not outstanding, just hungrier.



19 Mar 2016 14:14:48
Hi Folks, was at the game last night with my son in law and grandson both of whom are Bairns fans. At half time my son in law said in all his years of watching Falkirk he had never seen them torn apart like Rangers did in the first half. I honestly thought we were going to destroy them in the second half. I am still a bit shell shocked at the second half. I am super confident we will win the league. I am just concerned about our concentration or our ability to kill games off. I don't mean to be doom merchant just really concerned. Talking were not outstanding in the second half just seemed hungrier.



19 Mar 2016 11:28:03
very disappointed at the result, AND the tactics in the second half. Why change the team when they were going full on? and finally, what kind of strange tactic was naming only SIX subs? no-one else available? Waburton, you ARE having a laugh now.



19 Mar 2016 12:24:53
I agree Wee bill took our best 3 players off and defended on the halfway line Halliday and Tavinier should be benched.



19 Mar 2016 14:04:24
Hallidays been our best player all season.



19 Mar 2016 14:22:21
Two of the subs brought on are top quality and I can understand Warburton making the changes. Clark on the other hand was like going a man down. Falkirk are a good side with a decent quality manager. We had to keep up the tempo of the first half for 90 minutes and we didn't. Simple as that.

The downside of Miller going off is that we lose the only 'old head' in the team and the one guy that can keep the other players going.

I would still like to see us add some real quality next season and an older, more dominant centre half than Wilson would be ideal. (We need a Davie Weir) !



19 Mar 2016 17:25:44
TOM42

Top quality?



19 Mar 2016 11:24:00
Watched the game last night, and I know that a game lasts 90 minutes, but if anybody saw that first half last night, then they checked the FT result later on, they would've hit the floor in a heap with shock, we made 3 subs early in the second half, all 3 forward players off, for another 3 forward players on, the change in the whole teams attitude and self belief was unreal and there for all to see, the 2nd goal was the poorest goal we've conceded all season, the 3rd was just as comical, but fair play, the team that needed it and wanted it more in the end, went on to win it, so we'll done Falkirk, the thing that's worrying me the most is, we get free kick after free kick, corner after corner, and we can't get a gorgon the end of them, when's the last time we've scored from a corner kick? We get 15 to 18 corners a game, we do nothing with them, but come on lads, we're sounding like that mob across the city, one bad result, which doesn't stop us on our tracks, so no big deal, we'd rather these things happen, so we learn from them, the games never over till it's over, regardless of the score line, on the plus side of things, it's put a wee spanner in hibs's work, we don't do anybody any favours, that's true, but I'd love Falkirk to b there till the end of the play offs instead of them.



19 Mar 2016 11:36:46
Some supporters on here can see just how far away we are from competing in the premiership. There is a big difference from championship to premiership and some of our regular first team players aren't good enough. At the moment I think we would struggle in the top league and can anyone honestly say they would be confident of going to Celtic park, pittodrie or tynecastle and getting victories? The defence is poor particularly Tavernier who will be exposed against better players.



19 Mar 2016 12:01:01
Scored last friday from a corner, Kenny Miller headered it in.

I know what you mean but we can't have it all ways, one minute we were cueing to see mccoist go becuase the football was back to front and now we're not happy because its too much in front of the opposition.

Cant please everyone, said before i hate getting carried away, we're doing well, celtic will be a good indicator to see how far we've came.



19 Mar 2016 15:26:08
What you can do is get defenders who can defend fir starters mate, then play football, , Wilson and tav will be turn a new one soon, Davie will know they can't defend and must be cringing whenever they play against half decent forwards, like last nite, and warbs may be in for a culture shock if he doesn't adjust his thinkin.



19 Mar 2016 19:42:44
Why should warbs adjust it produces entertainment which is what football is all about on another night we would have scuffed them 5 0 ad rather get beat in a game like that than go and play 451 and lump it forward.



19 Mar 2016 23:54:09
Ok cee, we can watch entertaining football for the next 2 yrs, and finish 6th, ? That what you want, Walter knew how to win, , I pray warbs does too, because winning is everything, , if Rangers aren't challenging strongly next season, then the same people on here will be. Screaming fir a change, because most are glory hunters,
Tommy.



19 Mar 2016 09:57:29
Morning Bears. I've a bit of a sair heid this morning. I didn't see the match as I was out and about but was checking on my mobile phone. When I saw we were 2-0 up after 9 minutes I was ecstatic. I couldn't believe it when I checked and saw it was 2-2 then 2-3! According to the press today Falkirk's manager Houston said that Rangers were magnificent in the first half and tore Falkirk apart. So what happened in the second half? It is a bit worrying that when we have about 70% of the possession we still end up losing. Do we need an out and out goalscorer for next season? What will Windass and Crooks add to the squad because I'd never heard of either of them before this season. Having said all that Falkirk are underrated and are six points clear of Hibs so they are not a bad side at all. Only 4 wins needed from 7 games to clinch the title.



19 Mar 2016 10:47:12
Need 2 experienced central defenders and a quality striker. Clark will never fill in for Miller simply not good enough for the next level.



19 Mar 2016 12:25:48
DOIGER

Both players seem to be highly rated in league 2 and are both only 22. Know that doesn't mean much but hopefully they will do a job for us.



19 Mar 2016 10:39:54
World beaters first half doiger. linesman had a nightmare . realisticly could have been 5 up by 20 mins. baird was good down left wing. just bad 45 mins that all. wouldn't worry bud onwards and upwards.



18 Mar 2016 23:58:12
What about the 4 decisions by the linesmen that were borderline at best? Poor decision making cost us 2,3 maybe 4 goals, 3 of them in the first half alone!

Am I the only one that witnessed that?



19 Mar 2016 07:08:04
Shocking but falkirk pressed really well didn't give us a moment hippolyte impresses at Livingston and last night played well again but how are guys like alston, vaulks, sibbald, watson still playing at this level they are easily spl standard and the goalie on loan from Aberdeen is better than aberdeens first choice lol.



19 Mar 2016 09:19:07
OK at least 1 decision was definitely wrong. Yet we
played great for 30 mins then took the foot off the gas. Went back to our old tappity tap passing to no effect thought the game was over. Full grats to Falkirk for playing 90 mins. I agree McKay was great and the first move by many trying to tackle him is a push, even with all that being said, We are going to have to fit him with training wheels to keep him on his feet. I'm certain MW will make sure the guys learn from this so onwards and upwards.



19 Mar 2016 11:21:08
We took our foot off the gas and paid the price the teams to blame not the officials u sound like a certain individual from the Celtic page that blames officials for defeats etc! a wee blip the league is won hopefully back to normal next week and back to normal.



19 Mar 2016 14:28:37
We cannot blame officials for our inability to hold on to a two goal lead. Similarly, we should expect at least two of last night's subs to have been every bit as good as the two that went off although bringing Clark on is like going down to 10 men.

We lost the game because Falkirk outfought us in the second half and we should be seeing the alarm bells ringing for next season.

Warburton and King are right that we need four to six players if we are to compete in that league. We need to up the standard of player and for me I would like to see a couple of more experienced players that can help the young players including a centre back and a holding midfield player.



19 Mar 2016 15:35:00
Not according to some Tom, according to one in particular we were about to win the champions league after 10 mins last nite?
Strangely quiet now after slaughtering decent fans who can see the bigger picture, like the obvious inability to defend. ? And goid as he was mckay missed the biggest chance this side of van vossen? Tried to walk the ball in when he only had to pass it in, game over there and then, sad that some fans reverting to type and screaming of how good we are at beating nothing.



19 Mar 2016 16:39:20
I am not disputing the fact we should be able to defend a two gaol lead. While they have been great, guys like Wallace and Tavernier should concentrate on defending rather than bombing up the pitch looking to add to their goal tally, leaving the defence exposed at 2-0. But the simple fact is, if we went 3 or 4-0 up in first half, the game was over. The officials cost us this game along with our inability to defend, though the latter is more important going forward I agree.



19 Mar 2016 08:18:16
Aye they came onto a game after being anonymous in the first half. One criticism I have is MW keeps playing Clark. Nice guy and tries hard but will never do. His second touch is always a tackle. Maybe he's doing it in training.



19 Mar 2016 23:58:14
And if my auntie had balls?



 
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