Rangers Banter Archive November 19 2011
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19 Nov 2011 23:29:12
Ortiz, mckay, broadfoot, fleck, edu, mcculloch, Wallace,
, bartley, what a lot of rubbish. Would we miss any of this trash if they weren't here?
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The thing most of you dont understand is nowadays its 1player 1 job..so whinning like a bunch o, wee lassies about this one and that one being mince is stupid! If the boss does,nt have to play players out of position Rangers do have a more than adequate playing staff which is as capable of winning games as celtic and against celtic as far as aluko goes he is a similar type of player to naismith so he would do that job end of.
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Mckay has hardley played, bartley recovering from injury and wallace is mint mate, fleck has mixed reviews. however i agree ortiz, broadfoot and healy need a size 10 up there arse
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19 Nov 2011 23:00:13
i'm a Rangers fan, have been for 60 years, but i'm not daft enough to think we REALLY have a 10 point lead. The other mob have a game in hand ( Dunfermline ) probable easy 3 points, so it's really only 7 points with THREE old firm games to come. Statistic show these games are always unpredictable so come on bears, be realistic. Lets get behind the team every step of the way, but lets not lose the plot completely. Todays result was nothing to do with missing Naismith. We were missing an entire team, with exception of McGregor. Time to blood some of the young guys who would die for the shirt.
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Well said old boy! Just hope we dont play Fleck as he is rubbish...
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19 Nov 2011 22:14:35
Don't know why all tic fans are coming on bragging, your defence is s disaster waiting to happen and your manager was on the verge of the sack two weeks ago
We've always known there is a long way to go, but if you were offered our position , which would you choose?
Masters of our own destiny
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We've got players coming back to form and from injury son. You've Naismith out and the prospect of players being sold in Jan!
I'd much rather be in our position!
You remember season 2007/08, when we were 7 points behind with seven games to play!
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Only 1 cb fit ten players missing through injury ...calm down long way to go !!!!
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Remember that season well, you got all the help in the world, fixture nonsense for us, ridiculous decisions by referees helped you claw back the points. Funny enough with today's help and recent dodgy offside goals can see why some points are clawed back again. Blue4ever
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Sounds a bit paranoid blue4ever.
We beat you in the last two old firm games of 07/08 without any refereeing decisions.
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Why bother about porkheid boasters ?I dont see them getting any better in real terms...not yet anyway and I still think lennon will be gone at the end of the season if not before he just does,nt have what it takes ..its said strachan was in for the hibs job..he would do a better job at porkheid
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2007/08 season ur clutching at straws dazzaboy if u have to go back that far
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19 Nov 2011 21:39:56
A lot of fans disappointed with the contribution of McKay and Bedoya today.
However, we have to remember they probably weren't McCoist's first choice in the summer.
He tried to get Verhoek, Hemed and Danns before them so in the long term I would expect they will be moved on after a season or two or will struggle to get a game.
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Bedoya has class and will get better each game Yorkielad
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19 Nov 2011 20:14:31
How great is it to know that already Rangers have a 7/10 point gap over Celtic. Unfortunate draw again today but that's what 25 games unbeaten and could have been worse, afterall St. Johnstone beat Celtic at Parkshed.
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Considering it was 15 points 2 weeks ago it cant be that great!!...there is a long way to go!
chalkybhoy!
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Still great, it's Rangers who are in the position that they are in not Celtic. Carried away because of a DRAW. Celtic got beat at home to St. Johnstone to refresh your simple short memory.
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Yeah but we won today! Our game in hand is during the week, down to seven points. We play Saturday, down to four points, better prey yous don't slip up at Killie!
Bring on the 28th
Hail Hail
DazzaBhoy
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Ha ha, the arrogant tims are back. You are hardly setting heather on fire, try to beat 11 men. At what stage was it 15 point difference?? Would that have been 2 games in hand at the time?
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15 points.....what you been drinking?
Were "hardly setting the heather on fire", we won today. You's couldn't beat eleven men either today, ya fool!
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Its simple mate rangers dropped points today and celtic didnae ...im not gloating just saying our destiny is still in our hands aswell!!!
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Not gloating, all we've heard for the past few weeks is how Celtic are so many points behind, and the title was over before bonfire night!
Title will be decided in last two games
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Dazzabhoy that wiz ma post mate chalky bhoy!
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At least Rangers are not losing in the league and not shipping goals after seeing septic today they still need two centre backs and an anchor man for midfield plus another defensive midfielder so they dont have money to get much and I dont think their billionaires will give them 3.5 million to buy juhasz besides Anderlecht will stop that transfer anyway.
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Rangers should be able to sew up the title by end of february by winning at the end of december that will do it and I feel they will win by more than ten points.
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Oi PL@NKER !! Yer destiny was in your hands last season when Freddie Mercury missed a pen and Inverness pumped ye's, so away and have a wee think about it, we at least won't go 3v0 down to Killie in 45 mins, we welcome the chase and you lot are CHASING !!! Again.....
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Whats the point talkin to a coward who posts no name!!
chalky bhoy!
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And Chalky Bhoy is a f*****g name ? Whit a donk you are ! My name is Caroline ya trotter, and now ?
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19 Nov 2011 20:06:59
poor performance today but lets not forget we are still unbeaten in the league and still top ..i put it down to a bad day at the office .that other mob are p*** poor
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The other mob creeped 2 pts closer to you manks today.more grey hairs for sally.lmfao
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19 Nov 2011 19:57:38
After todays game I think Mcoist really needs to get shot of some players. Broadfoot is truely awful. I'd rather see Mcmillan or Cole play instead anyday. Get him off the wage bill! Mackay and Bedoya weren't great but again aren't wingers so can't say to much. Defo get Ness involved as soon as he's fully fit! Need the creative spark he brings. Wouldn't mind Aluko....not a world beater but who would you rather have him or Kerkar?
In January I say we get shot of Broadfoot, Weir, Kerkar, send Fleck out on loan for experience.
Starting 11 of,
Shagger
Ortiz Goian Bocanegra Wallace
Whitts Davis Ness Wylde
Jelavic Lafferty
Back up: Alexander, Edu, Mackay, Bedoya, Mculloch, Papac, Bartley, Healy, Hutton, Aluko, Perry, Hemmings, Ortiz, Bendiksen
Looking at this I think we still would have a strong starting 11 with plenty of options if we want to change or when we get injuries. Still plenty optimistic for the season but think we need to get shot of some dead wood! For the sake of the squad and the finances.
Thoughts?
Rossco Cyprus Bear
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Lol fleck out for experience... He was the ne wayne rooney four years ago!! Hes mince
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Ortiz in your starting line up, and as back up? He's mince and should be shipped out!
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Agree Ortiz hasn't looked great but think he could do a job at RB
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Fleck sell him to blackpool see what they can make of him,with good sell on right enough
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19 Nov 2011 19:16:09
Fellow Bears,
Just in fae the game. Very poor performance by the Gers today. The whole midfield were totally dominated from start to finish and I am afraid Bedoya and McKay have a long long way to go before they can considered first team regulars for Rangers. They offered nothing whatsoever on the flanks which or more less resulted in Rangers launchin the ball up the park at every turn. St Johnstone deserved the draw I thought they were excellent today, probably the best any away team has played at Ibrox..
I think McCoist should take a gamble on Fran Sandaza in January to give us more options in attack, crackin big player and always plays well against the Champs and Celtic.
Don't hit the panic button Bears, we are still unbeaten and 10 points clear. Lets just hope McCoist doesn't stick with McKay and Bedoya from now on......
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19 Nov 2011 18:49:16
Just had a look on the Celtic page, they are all just about creaming their pants that we drew today. I couldn't make the game, how did they play? I heard McKay and bedoya started, how did they do? How did hemmings play wen he came on?
Even if we have drew today, we are still unbeaten and top of the league, the team are doing well and can have a bad day now and again. We are miles better than that other lot, they will drop many more points by the end if this season starting on the 28 th December when we gub them in their own middin
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19 Nov 2011 18:42:59
alright my fellow bears it wasn't a great performance and it was annoying but keep the faith bears we can still win the league were ten points clear at the top of the table which is incredible plus they haven't won there game in hand yet they have dropped points of nearly every team in the league we look at today as a blip so forget about today my fellow bears and lets go on to the next match and look forward to it
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19 Nov 2011 18:42:38
Celtic are now the favourites for the title- thats the one in Liewells mind, where spl players are worth £29mill. They are gr8,lol.
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The same SPL where unknown agents put bids in for Rangers players LMAO
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19 Nov 2011 18:13:34
The prroblems simple, you pay peanuts you get monkey's.
DD
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Look how much our central defenders cost to your central defenders and our clean sheet record to yours every one has a bad game sometimes but yours most times you just have to laugh at some posts on here pmsl w.a.t.p
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19 Nov 2011 18:08:29
With some of the posts here you would think we have just lost the league.
Today was obviously a set back, but get a grip. We are cruising at the top. 10 points clear after 15 games is amazing!
4 in a row.
RB.
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Exactly. We love you Rangers!
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19 Nov 2011 17:57:25
Oh when the Saints go marching in......
Cannot believe all you bears are moaning about sending off, and big Butcher mumping and moaning, Priceless. You bears sure have short memoris when the ref gave you TWO of the softest penalties ever, and never heard butcher moan then?
Also Laughterty and Naylor are two of the worst at both simulation (diving to you bears) and trying to get players booked and sent off. Come sunday when you play next the gap will be 4 points hail hail Timalloy
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Don't recall a Naylor playing for Rangers. You wanna talk about divers, just look at Stokes before you point at any other players. Yes the gap will be closed but do you really think you have a team of superstars, because until the dodgy red card your lot were rubbish. Blue4ever
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The same St. Johnstone who beat Celtic, Rangers weren't too clever today not in the slightest but neither were Celtic. Celtic are a weak, weak team and Rangers home form hasn't been as promising as away form but 25 games unbeaten that is now still unbeaten this season. Quite sad that you are getting proud of Celtic potentially being JUST 4 points behind Rangers haha.
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Whats sad about it?a few games ago you lot were gonna be 20 odd pts ahead.next week that 20 pts could be just 4 pts.winds of change?its a funny old game.
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I dont know if you are an optimist or a fool but with that lot you have I would,nt even try to depend on them fail fail.
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19 Nov 2011 17:35:25
Now please tell me if I'm way out with my marks out of Ten for today's performance.
Allan McGregor = 10
Steven Whittaker = 4
Dorin Goian = 4
Carlos Bocanegra = 5
Kirk Broadfoot = 3
Alejandro Bedoya = 4
Steven Davis = 4
Maurice Edu = 4
Matt McKay = 4
Kyle Lafferty = 3
Nikica Jelavic = 5
Fleck 5
Hemmings 5
MUST TRY HARDER !!
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You gave Steve Davis 4 points to many most overrated player poor poor poor
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I'd say your being generous there
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I would give edu a 1
i dont know what ally sees in him he ways
slows down the play
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19 Nov 2011 17:30:33
Have to say it was a poor team performance today but McKay and Bedoya were particularly bad. I think we all now know why we haven't seen a a lot of them, basically because they are pish.
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19 Nov 2011 17:24:57
We are the people, win lose or draw.
25 games unbeaten
10/7 points clear
Sign Aluko to provide a wee spark when we need it.
The future is bright.
Take care Bears worldwide
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We are the people, win lose or draw - we are the problem win lose or draw
25 games unbeaten - out of 3 cups by September tho
10/7 points clear - still got 3 old firm games plus whyte has to try & prove he has money to run the club before you hit admin
Sign Aluko to provide a wee spark when we need it - cant have no money to buy players or if we do then we need to sell the only person who can score
The future is bright - but ibrox is dark because it never payed there leecky bill.
Take care Bears worldwide- aye because the bears are just about to be instinked
Your truely
Sir David Murray
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So if your sir david murray then why the f**k did you leave us gers in the state we are then smart arse?
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To make sure we did 9 in a row you ungrateful idiot. Sir David Murray
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19 Nov 2011 17:12:50
The most embarrassing thing is, if- expect them to- Celtic win their game in hand, there will be only 7 points between us. That is crazy, they are shocking. Come on Rangers, we know you are average, but ..............to be only 7 points ahead of that mob
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19 Nov 2011 17:07:11
Kyle lafferty OUT KO haha minor blip on the way to wining the title WATP But pish poor performance from most of the team. if we didnt have mcgregor in goals we would have most sertinly lost.
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19 Nov 2011 17:02:31
the only good thing about that match was that hemmings finally got a crack. the lads got talent
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How did Fleck play?
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The whole team apart from McGregor should take a look at themselves. We were screaming out for some width today. Everything was straight down the middle and far too easy for the St.Johnstone defence to deal with. It's frightening how much we miss Naismith.
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Davis never kicked a ball today and if stevo doesnt play rangers dont play.
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19 Nov 2011 16:59:34
mccoist must sign aluko now after that poor display bedoya is no use and makay hasnt got any pace just another poor gers team not on form we have blown it again.
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Blown what, exactly?
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How embarassing pleading to sign a dud who cant even get a game for aberdeen!
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19 Nov 2011 16:56:08
Ya dancer!! Well done the saints get in there. Great result esp. for the guy lomas its his first ever game!!LOL
Come Wednesday it'll be 7 points then....oh were catching up now.nananannnnaaa
CB67 Hail Hail
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Hail hail this, you lot will still drop points as well. Blue4ever
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CB67 we got 1 more point off saints than use did
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Ur right cb67 we will be still 7 points clear.wrtp
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You'll drop more points than us I guarantee that. Were on the way up your on the way down!
Without Naismith it's obvious ur carp, but never mind that Aberdeen reject will come and save you lot.......LMFAO!!
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CB67 xxxxx lots of luv you manky lot!!LOL
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Cant belive a gers fan just said hail! hail!
anyway a good weeekend for celtic but we still have to win on wednesday..there is a long way to go!
hail hail chalkybhoy
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Cant wait till sat night, when were only 4 behind and you's are bricking it going to Rugby park!
Hail hail
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19 Nov 2011 16:54:21
buy a winger 4 central midfield players playing.what a joke.
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We welcome the chase ?
Well the chase is on :)
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Yes it is lenny, but you lot are there for the taking still, so wait and see. Blue4ever
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19 Nov 2011 16:50:38
St Johnstone the better team, very poor performance today. Why can t they play at Ibrox, except against the whipping bhoys?
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We cant win at Ibrox, because teams show up organised and we dont have the players to break them down. Away from home teams come at us more so we can get at them on the counter attack, thats the problem. Blue4ever
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If only it was that simple, eh. We should be good enough to break them down though.
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Spot on Blue4ever. Our lack of creativity is a major concern.
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19 Nov 2011 16:50:31
Two words PI55 POOR !!
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Yep you certainly are!! These two new guys Mackay & Bedoya are pure dross!!
CB67 Hail Hail
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@CB67: Just incase you didn't notice rubbernut, you lot are still 10 points behind so what does that make you? St.Johnstone beat you at the piggery didn't they? As for your daft comments regarding McKay and Bedoya, I've hardly seen them in action and i'm a Rangers man so how you can slate them is beyond me. You have enough (proven) lumps of wood in your own team so stick to worrying about them
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19 Nov 2011 16:42:38
Is Steve davis playing the roll of a ghost 2day
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Hes played that roll for the last 5-6 games buddy, not good enough today
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Really poor performance, we have created very few chances and the midfield have been non existent. Bad 2 points to drop, whilst there are a few posted missing just what does ally see in mo edu. Big laff not far behind him, hopefully this will act as a wake up call for ally, but we have been here before.
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19 Nov 2011 16:38:02
This is what happens when we don't have any width
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19 Nov 2011 16:35:18
This is rubbish
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19 Nov 2011 16:20:53
Mcgregor saving our bacon, we are mince today. Need some inspiration from somewhere
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Not much on the bench,hemmings to get the winner
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19 Nov 2011 16:20:15
Broadfoot is gash
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How can someone disagree
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It was broadfoot that disagreed. GovanFR
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19 Nov 2011 16:18:43
Is this life without naisy? Not much
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19 Nov 2011 15:44:25
Wee miss Naismith and need Aluko.
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Exactly, I said to you lot that you'd miss Naismith bigtime, see if yelavic gets injured that's yous finished....FACT (And you all know it)
Then to go for an Aberdeen reject, who doesn't even have a team you are really scrapping the bottom of the barrel eh
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So your lot win a couple of games and your superstars again. Behave yourself. Blue4ever
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Facts from a celtic fan..................priceless. Where do they get all these facts from?
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Would you agree with me that if Naismith played today you'd of prob scored?
I'm pretty sure you'll agree hence FACT
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19 Nov 2011 15:41:47
I heard of this player called Pablo mouche in the summer when he scored vs arsenal. He looks a good jinky player who would definitely fill naisys boots. Plus Birmingham almost signed him for 1.5 mil.
Wat yous think?
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You's don't have £1.5million!
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Aye and uz do to splash out on more donkey defenders uz were going on about having a young fit and stronger team last season done f*** all for uz then and look were it has got you this season !!!!
and dont start hitting me with your p*** that 9 off our players are injured your ginger god canni even pick a starting 11 w.a.t.p
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Well said mate
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19 Nov 2011 15:40:24
We ain't that good, best of a bad bunch. x
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19 Nov 2011 15:36:31
My god this ref is having a shocker!
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Yeah he's not gave yous a penalty yet you mean!!LOL
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19 Nov 2011 15:34:46
These cheap players are not going cut it
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19 Nov 2011 14:58:00
Why are the rangers fans moaning about the ict player being sent off? The guy had a look and went in with the arm raised. Big Gioan fell like a big lassie screaming in pain when the boy from aberdeen got a straight red the other week there! And let's not talk about laugherty and mcgregor and there diving to the ground pretending they were hit. Get a grip man swings and roundabouts.
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Swings in roundabouts that's not what u lot where saying last year, every week use where complaining
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Eh do u lot not remember when that big lanky nobody went down like he was shot against C.Mulgrew??
The way that Lafferty and Naismith dive everytime they can has obviously slipped your memory then eh??
Come Wednesday it'll be 9 points then when we gub you at paradise you'll be looking over your manky sholders!! LOL
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19 Nov 2011 14:38:08
Team news....Mcgregor, Mcmillan, Goian, Bocanegra, Whittaker, Bedoya, Mckay, Davis, Edu,Jjelavic and Lafferty
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Wrong team news broadfoot is on
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Bedoya sounds a good player......NOT!!
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19 Nov 2011 14:32:23
No players will be forced to leave in January - Daily Record
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Funny how rangers fans believe the rhags when it suits them.
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I don't think that ally will have much say in transfers come January! If you lot get a good bid for yelab&tch he'll be offski for sure.
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19 nov 2011 13:28:12
what a cheat that smartass is the inverness player went for a 50-50 ball and because he touched smartass on the shoulder he goes down holding his face and gets the guy sent off he is the biggestb cheat ive seen in the game for a long time and the celtic fans go on about lafferty and co but then again they are 12 points behind us if thats the only way they are going to get points by cheating and getting opponents sent off god help the rest of us if thats what they call football cheating b-----ds
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Man up ya bitter wee man, the guy slapped him on the face.lafferty was head butted by fresh air. if you didn't see that you must be blind. I will say it was a booking at the most but that's the ref's choice. Live with it...Wolvibhoy
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Yes he was hit on the face, my goodness it was terrible being tickled on the face and falling to the ground. The usual Celtic struggling ref to the rescue. Disgraceful sending off. Blue4ever
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Aye right so he did Wolvibhoy SMARTASS intention was to get the guy sent off it should of been SMARTASS been booked for faining an injury to his ugly mug so dont come on this page and tell me what i did and didnt see i stand by my comment he is the biggest cheat in scottish football obviously you can only see the game through your green tinted glasses so i think you need to lighten up
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@ Wolvibhoy
"that's the ref's choice. Live with it" I nearly choked on my coffee when i read this! Cracker coming from a Celtic fan! Some of your mob are still greeting about throw ins you never got in the 80s ya trumpet.
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Well they have been helped today, never a red card and the 2nd goal was offside. Blue4ever
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Same old Celtic always cheating samaras is a blouse mind you they all are always cheated never defeated tramps . From bingo bango
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Wouldn t worry about the manky mhob, as long as we keep doing the business...............thats all that matters. Could do with a convincing win today, will take 1-0 though
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Pot calling kettle i ...i remember rangers gettin a 2 penalty dig out up their earlier in the season !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Lafferty and mcgregor anyone?isnt it amazing how you forget things?whit ma like!
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It showed you the replay after the game and it shows the ref didn't actually see it
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The ref never saw clubfoots dive at parkhead last season either...still gave a penalty though...how odd
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As terry butcher said assault with a finger nail.
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19 Nov 2011 13:27:08
Another shocking red card decision in a game involving Celtic. Referee is a disgrace.
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Just got to get on with it, we got 2 pens at inverness earier in season that where dodgy
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Finally someone with a bit of sense!!!!!
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Yep chalky there actually is one or two who can actually speak some sense
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Cheers mate.wee bit of honesty goes a long way
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19 Nov 2011 13:22:01
just seen the red card for tansey against celtic,what an absolute SHOCKER but nothing less than we've seen for a few season's now. mdw1873
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Eh your two very dodgy pens earlier this season springs to mind??
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Yep true we are cheating bast&ards CB67
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19 Nov 2011 12:48:12
Prob team v st johnstone
Mcgregor
Whitts goian boca papac
Bedoya davis edu ness
Lafferty jelavic
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Team announced, Broadfoot is playing, well easy team talk for St Johnstone that's the side of the pitch to attack, St Mirren did it after he came on that day. Blue4ever
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19 Nov 2011 12:47:17
Gaffer in the press today saying that he and whyte have been discussing transfer targets?.........can see anyone coming in on a perm basis but think mcoist could maybe tie up a few loans from EPL....especially for up front where we are short on numbers...
Lukaku?
Macheda?
would both be great options
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Great options that will never sign
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19 Nov 2011 12:13:22
Mr tight getting ready to put in a 300th bid for goodwillie, oh soz I've been away for 3 months. Ha
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Were you away for 3 months right enough? Suggest you don t look at the league table then.
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19 Nov 2011 11:07:53
Does any of u guys not worry about aluko? He's 22 but been out of work since the summer, if he was that good surely he would be picked up by now, if this is the sort of player we are going for surely the season ticket price should be going down? What's ur thts ed? {Ed001's Note - sometimes players just need someone to take a chance on them, especially at a time when squads are being cut back massively.}
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Well said ed
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Play him at pay per game nothing lost.
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19 Nov 2011 10:52:07
Jamie ness fit for today hope ally starts him
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19 Nov 2011 09:53:26
wee lemmon has blamed other teams of raising there game against his, he has blamed refs, lawyers , the establishment, spannish ref in a friendly , other managers. diouf, the media, sfa, spl, a water bottle at inverness and now the ground at lennoxtown. Wee secret fellow bears, its maybe the manager and the players that are the problem but we wont tell them. The sun is shinning and a 3 oclock kick off at Ibrox , what saturdays are all about.
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Tut tut ten injuries mate TEN!!! how woulfd you cope?? infavt what is the point never get a un biased answer anyway!!
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Chalkybhoy what about last season why we were down to the bare bones you didnd hear us complain we just got on with it
wullie
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19 Nov 2011 08:55:43
I feel a draw would be a good score today as st johnstone beat Celtic earlier in the season, what u all think?
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A draw at home is never a good result at home against an spl side, away and have a word with yourself ! s.p.
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Think you must be a tim to come out with that rubbish...Gers to stroll it 3-0 R/R
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I'll tell you what I don't think, I don't think you're a Rangers fan !! Nothing less than 3 points at home. You toddle off now, your lot are a couple of hours away from sacking your so called " manager " after another Inverness nightmare............ Bye now, lights off on your way out, cheers. 4 in a row, let the misery grow !
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Think Celtic will win 4-1 today
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2-0****** get it up you!!
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You got it right m8. a point was better than none.
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19 Nov 2011 08:44:10
Probs this line up:
McGregor
Whittaker Goian Bocanegra Broadfoot
Ortiz Davis Edu McKay
Lafferty Jelavic
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Ortiz is like playing way 10 men the guys is the worst signing in 10 years and that's saying something way some of the veal big eck signed, only kerkar and healy come come close
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Isn't my preferred, but it's likely what Ally will go for.....
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McCulloch is fit and I think he'll play alongside Davis, with Edu out right and Fleck on the left. I do agree with the rest tho', and fully expect a home win. 3 v 1. Rangers 'til I die
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19 Nov 2011 00:21:56
i wonder what the headlines will be if inverness beat celtic..... super caley go ballistic celtic fans are atrocious?
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Headline"CELTIC BUTCHERED AGAIN"
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"CELTIC BUTCHERED AGAIN"
haha Love it lol
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I'm more interested in gers winning than them losers from the easy end
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Bitter Lemon blames cold highlands weather for another defeat...............temp to get to -15 by 5pm.
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