Rangers Banter Archive November 19 2013

19 Nov 2013 11:15:57
I can't believe the comments being spouted on here just now about McCoist. He's won 12/12 and Rangers have been playing not bad football. There is always room for improvement but there is never any pleasing some.
The AGM should be the focus of every supporter at present. Get that out the way with Murray & King on board and then start focusing on the Football. Our aim is to win the league and do well in cups. So far we are still on plan so put you shouts to replace the manager tpo bed until the New Year
Channel your negative thoughts into Getting behind the team

@ OP some of us are still traumatised by the liquidation and the fact we made a £14, 400,000 loss in 13 months. Some of us thought the way ahead was to have good young home grown talent from Murray park giving us exciting attractive football as the inflated wages of the second class mercenaries would be a thing of the past. We looked for attacking football with no fear from our well trained well coached talented youngsters. We didn't get that. We opted for paying big money for out of contract experienced premier league players and ignored the youth option. At some point the next investment of money will have run out as well. Our only hope is to produce our own youth a la Dundee United- Goodwillie, Jonny Russell, Ryan Gauld et all with high sell on value. They are the only ones doing this- sorry Forrest at Celtic? Fraser Fyvie and Peter Pawlet Aberdeen- all are currently ahead of our one regularly featuring youngster- McLeod.

The fact that we have no scouts is a disgrace but how about Ally, Kenny and Ian showing commitment to the cause and do the scouting at nights and weekends when we ain't playing?

They earn enough to put in a few extra hours.

But they need support from a good and decent board of directors and understanding fans to go for youth with all it's hazards- occasional slip ups through lack of experience.

If we don't do this we won't survive Bill Miller talked about a "black hole" in the club's finances- we spend more than we earn even allowing for the heroes who have helped themselves to a few hundred thousand pounds here and there.

If not shut Murray Park and sell it to Tesco it is too expensive for a training pitch for experienced pros with no or little sell on value which is all it is feckin used for just now.

Nbear

That has to be one of the best and most sensible replies ever posted on this site. Can't really add much to it other than the major disappointment about the lack of young players now playing in the team. What has Barry McKay done not to get in the squad? And the fact there is no scouting just shows up what an amateur way the club is currently being run. Shameful and almost as embarrassing as being liquidated.

@1 yes the Dundee utd way is the way to go, eh when was the last time they won the league again?

Lot of romantic cr@p being posted on here about a daft notion that playing a youth team would get us back to the top

You all make it sound so easy to get a young guy (or a team full) and turn him into a top flight player, you may not have noticed of late but this is something Scotland has been seriously lacking for many years now



JG

JG

It's more about finding a balance between young players and experienced ones. At the moment only McLeod getting a game and it's disappointing that McKay has fallen out if the picture. Really thought he would become a great player for us but it looks like he may have to leave to get first team football which would be a shame. Rearing your own not will not only reduce wage costs but also can bring in much needed revenue when selling them on

Cheers Stewie totally agree about wee Barry and worry that he is just not going to get a chance. Hopefully McAusland comes back and gets a chance but that is another lad I would have had in the team this year. I would also worry for Gasparato as he seems to have slipped right down the pecking order.
Its extraordinary to me that some fans are looking for more signings in January and still in spite of Admin 1 Liquidation and £14.4million loss in 13 months cannot see the danger ahead. One man's romantic cr@p is another's no brainer.

Stewie - I don't disagree with that at all,
The league should be tied up early so let's hope that the younger players are given a run out after that and the chance to prove themselves

JG

19 Nov 2013 01:12:10
Don't be fooled by some of the persons on here, still talking the same old tosh, played 12 won 12 its so embarrassing, we play s*** football we pay full time wages to win a part time league, we had a brilliant opportunity to blood a proper a youth team playing attacking football, and when we got back to the SPL we would have been ready, instead what does that poor excuse for a human being never mind manager do, he signs people like Kevin Kyle, the greek RB, the french dude, we give away Jordon McMillian, the guy is totally clueless only interested in himself, me personally I am ashamed we have someone like him in charge of our club,


remember this the supporters paid for the club and got nothing back in return,

I don't understand why we don't play with wingers all the time, and seem to rely on high balls to daly. does this style of play merit the second highest wage bill in scottish football? to me, it looks like mccoist sets the team up to not lose, rather than to win. why do we still not have scouts a ibrox?

So our youth team would be good enough for the spl in 2yrs time? b*******. Sadly, most of the scottish youngsters aren't capable of playing top flight football. As for recruiting potential gems from abroad for youth, haven't you read the news. Kenny McDowall has came out and admitted we have NO scouting system because of cuts. If you are embarrassed at watching rangers win 12 from 12 go to parkhead plenty of empty seats for you to pick from.

Agree that McCoist is not/never been the man to lead our team. Poor tactics, signings, fawning over phoney's and most embarrassingly, the claim denying he knew how much he was being paid. I don't buy into the 100% league record, that should be without question at this level.
My problem is as you say no development at youth level. We had the opportunity to develop, source, buy, the best youths available and promise them first team action.
We should have had people from the business, football and fans side of the club sent to the likes of Dortmund, Swansea etc to see how they run their business, organise their soccer academies, embrace fans input etc, etc.
I only see this wait for promotion to the SPFL and all will be well policy. We're winning games, so what does it matter.
We need people with vision and ambition from top to bottom to progress. Just now all I see are parasites fleecing the fans of their money in return for their unfailing loyalty. Ally and his cohorts are not without sin here either.

Lets get the board sorted first before we start changing Management and restructuring the youth setup. There is ever so much potential, commercially and sportingly for Rangers with our fantastic fan base. Also what is the general feeling on players like Ness, Naismith, Davis etc who walked away? (I know they would be no chance to get them) Do you think they d

Agree 100% OP and N3 george

@4 no way should any of these players ever be welcomed back to the club they deserted the club in its hour of need. It's especially hauling that Ness and Naismith left as both had been looked after by the club during very serious injuries. Rangers took Ness all round Europe to get a cure for his injury and twice Naismith damaged his ligaments the second one being from a shocking tackle he put in on another player. It also sticks in my throat that Naismith even held a press conference when he refused to sign over stating that Rangers were dead. Not even Lawwell would come out with such a statement

19 Nov 2013 00:21:54
I am speaking in behalf of myself and my mate who like me have a few shares, I hope McColl and Kings plans are to let Rangers go into Administration and then get control, get an CVA going, its the only way to cleanse the club of all the vermin that's hanging around the place. ok I will lose my shares again, but I don't care that would be a much better option than having all the parasites including McCoist hanging around waiting to cash in on the shares.

I will never trust McCoist again, Its still fresh in my mind what he said to the fans about getting behind Green, only to benefit himself, and later telling the fans he was buying shares as a fan and not as a manger and he encouraged the fans to follow his example. WELL FAT MAN HOW MUCH DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SHARES?, MINES COST ME 78 PENCE EACH
so here is hoping McColl & King get there way and you end up the same as all of us shareholders with nothing, that without a doubt is in the best interests of our once great club, wouldn't you agree

I keep hearing this when Whyte took your club into admin he then appointed D&P to facilitate this. They then gave preferred bidder status to one Charles Green and co. After a few anti celtic pronouncements and almost sectarian rants there was a very vocal element of your support buying into the vision and the share issue. Even as you were sinking your no doubt hard earned cash in to the new rangers the spivs were finding ways to syphon it off. I would think it was rather easy and very lucrative for them so what's to stop them doing it again. Nothing that's what whoever is in charge shortly can offer up admin again and appoint their own administrator who can again give prefered bidder status again and make sure the spivs regain control again under another guise. you will pump more money in and it will go again god only knows where.

It's not just green that mccoist has backed, it's every spiv that's turned up! all mccoist cares about is mccoist, and he will say and do anything to keep his over the top salary and bonuses.

Op I bought shares in the ipo and I can tell you they were not 78p,

Keep on trolling

Jg

Jg. 210k shares dumped today and they are now worth 42p - should have sold at 78!

Oj if I had bought my shares to make money then I would have sold at 90p when I had the chance

That was not why I and many others bought them

210 k out of 67m is a drop in the ocean

JG