Rangers Banter Archive September 19 2016

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19 Sep 2016 21:00:15
With Barton handed a further 3 week suspension I think it's time the club came out and let the support know what's gone down.

19 Sep 2016 21:15:16
I guess u just read fergusons interview.

20 Sep 2016 11:03:00
What interview?

19 Sep 2016 20:15:38
1st time poster on here, been following for a long time. With regards the Barton incident, iam seeing a number of people saying, Barton is correct, some of the players need a kick up the a**e, and a few home truths. This is the role of the manager and the club Captain. Look at Souness, Wallace, Greig. Leaders of men, who led the great Glasgow Rangers with so much pride and passion. Could you imagine any of these men relying on someone like Barton to tell them what it means to play for the famous blue jersey. It is time the leaders within our team stood up and let them know. Warbs, weir, Wallace. We don't know what was said between Barton, Halliday and Warbs, so we can't say who is right or wrong. These sort of things happen in dressing rooms at every level of football, I've been involved in a few myself. If we have been crap, take it on the chin, learn from it and move on. Time for all Bears to stick together, enough others out there hate us.

19 Sep 2016 23:27:34
Alot of what you say is true but Wallace ain't no leader of men, everything about the guy tells you he is a follower of men and a grass 😉.

20 Sep 2016 01:58:08
You hit the nail on the head although I assume that you meant Jock Wallace and not our current Captain.

The current Captain is not a leader and never will be. He deserves considerable respect for staying with the Club but the sooner we find ourselves a proper leader the sooner things will improve. We need someone with the passion, commitment and ability to lead from the front like Butcher, Gough, Greig, Souness or Amoruso. That is what the Club should have been looking to sign in the summer.

20 Sep 2016 11:25:13
Wallace stayed because he had a young family and he knew he would never make the same amount of money anywhere else.

The amount of goals we have lost from his non existent defending, yet he is never dropped.

20 Sep 2016 13:32:26
I agree wallace might not b captain material but he had the chance to go yo Notts Forrest a few yr back on deadline day and he opted to stay with us and i don't think they would be paying him buttons somehow.

19 Sep 2016 19:51:36
Was rossiter injured at the weekend?

19 Sep 2016 19:21:01
Ok in the, probably vain, attempt to have a positive thread on here. I'd just like to say I thought there were some big improvements for some of our players.
Fods with some sharp saves.
Tav looking more involved than recently.
Hill and Wilson maintained a clean sheet and Hill looked like he'd score again.
Nice to see Holt back.
Halliday was all over the park and put a good shift in. Clearly trying to show we don't need Barton.
Windass is looking a find and if he starts finding an end product will be great.

19 Sep 2016 20:43:30
I agree blue genius. When dodoo is back add him to front line. Put waghorn on left dodoo on right with garner through middle and fingers crossed team is there. Dilemma is rossiter in too over Halliday.

20 Sep 2016 00:11:10
Blue genius I agree tav took some stick for defending Las year but boys worked hard over the summer been our best player by far so far (along with big was)

19 Sep 2016 22:05:18
Rossiter over Halliday every day of week. Halliday did great last year at that level and maybe time will tell if he has it in top tier but badge kissing and waving to crowd for his song won't get him a starting jersey. Get Crooks and Harry in team and watch dynamics change. Would also like to see McKay given a rest and M OH given a run to see if he got what it takes.

19 Sep 2016 19:06:54
Joey the Clown said he's going to sue your team for. wait for it. funfair dismissal lol HH.

19 Sep 2016 20:17:28
Bob the pussy that is one truly awful joke, tell it to timalloy he'd like that nearly as bad as his tips for the bookies.

19 Sep 2016 21:51:59
Whilst "Bob the pussy" has got Comedy Central lining you up for your own special?

20 Sep 2016 02:00:14
The sooner Bob the cat is neutered the better!

20 Sep 2016 04:43:56
It's a poor Peter Kay joke.

19 Sep 2016 18:53:50
I believe Barton has played his last game for rangers but there's aways too sides too every story and why hasn't the other players been hang out anaw . are they looking at legal side off sacking him?

19 Sep 2016 19:06:14
Too sides? Special indeed! jokes! ✌.

19 Sep 2016 17:56:10
I think Barton has been suspended for 3 weeks because he was speaking publicly and on talksport about the situation, it says on the club website that neither party will make any further statement or comment on this issue, so i'm just wondering if its to see if he'l keep quiet about the situation now.

19 Sep 2016 18:34:14
I think it's a joke he has been suspended for 3 weeks. Either sack are play him don't drag it out for another 3 weeks. I still think it's harsh there was no fisty cuffs and if he did say last year we were in rubbish league playing rubbish teams well he's not wrong.

19 Sep 2016 19:05:04
We can't afford to sack him and pay him off unfortunately.

19 Sep 2016 19:07:49
4 weeks out altogether, 4 weeks behind on his fitness. Barton is already behind regarding his fitness levels. Why is he suspended and not asked to train with the reserve team. I think we may of seen the last of Barton.

19 Sep 2016 19:18:37
I hope so.

19 Sep 2016 19:45:40
Thank god you don't own a company hooly you can't just sack some for abuse there are processes hence the suspension.

19 Sep 2016 20:01:06
My point ross is that I think it's harsh.

19 Sep 2016 20:27:32
The suspension is just about the normal for any company in total 4 weeks, everything has to be above board and fair on both sides, there will almost definately be contact and i'd be extremely suprised if jb talks about it unless he wants to seal his own fate publicly, its actually a really hard process to sack somebody or to get to the bottom of what happened and what warning/ dismaissal it deserves.

19 Sep 2016 20:15:28
here is my take on it for what its worth. Its clear to me players in the past have done much much worse on this occasion for eg players have slept with other players wives etc, been drunk, done drugs or even worse, yet this man says something out of turn and is suspended for 3 weeks.

This is practically unheard of in football and for me your club is praying that Barton steps out of line while suspended then he has no leg to stand on and u can get him on gross misconduct therefore sack him and u don't have to pay him.
Otherwise if u want rid u will have to pay his contract and u definitely don't want that.

19 Sep 2016 20:45:38
RossW1995

Your are absolutely right mate this isn't the 70s anymore, as you say there are procedures in place when disciplining people. It will be interesting to see if the club are going through this route which could prove costly.

19 Sep 2016 22:16:40
I trust the manager and his team Barton has done nothing Abe he came genre but shout his mouth off get rid of him and bring in somebody else might even get two players for his wages.

19 Sep 2016 22:07:54
What's the chances of him staying tight lipped for 3 weeks when he has a book coming out lol I'd say no chance then he has broken another promise and rules.

20 Sep 2016 02:06:13
The last thing we need is an industrial tribunal for unfair dismissal and all the goings on coming out in the media, (which they would just love) .

I really don't think that we look too clever in this episode. Two players apparently have a go at one another, the Manager gets involved and ends up in the argument. They are grown men, why not let them battle it out. Barton was clearly unhappy with the way the team was playing, (himself included) . It would appear that Halliday couldn't take the criticism and either all hell broke loose or it was handbags at 10 paces.

Sorry but this sort of thing just wouldn't have happened when Souness or Smith was manager and when we had a proper captain at the club!

19 Sep 2016 17:35:10
Barton isn't working out. If he isn't prepared to give up his contract the club has to follow standard proceedures. Warning, final warning then bye bye. It also gives his agent time to find a new club and a bit of face saving for Joey. Sad but no point in flogging a dead horse.

19 Sep 2016 17:51:46
barton would have no problem finding a new club! I suspect that his previous club with take him back with open arms and their supporters certainly would. The one thing that I am told about Barton by folks that know him is that he is a winner. Perhaps the problem is not solely related to him.

Certainly, it would appear that non performers, (who just happen to be Rangers supporters), don't like to be told that they are crap!
While I would prefer to see Rossiter in the team than Barton, I only want winners. No point in playing pretty football if you end up middle of a pretty mediocre league!

19 Sep 2016 17:58:48
IMO unlikely that he will play for us again and we are following due process and procedure as required. Personally I dislike his childless antics and based on his form to date was not worthy of place in the first 11. Would love him to prove me wrong!

19 Sep 2016 19:21:49
Hes certainly not playing like a winner. a winner is a guy in the mould of souness, keane, viera, gattuso and sorry but the only thing bartons got in common with those guys is he shares the same occupation.

19 Sep 2016 20:50:05
Barton isn't alone in performing poorly so far and to be honest I feel his comments were correct. It's laughable that some of the players used what happened last season without him.

I think some of the problem at the club is that too many players are very soft and can't take the criticism they are getting. Derek Johnstone nailed it tonight saying that some players can't handle playing for the club with the expectations and scrutiny. Now is the time we will see what these guys and the manager are made of.

19 Sep 2016 22:47:15
I agree all the players are playing poorly but at least there trying to knuckle down and improve, barton on the other hand is just constantly on twitter/ radio telling any1 who"ll listen how good he is and what he's going to do to certain players. the true greats just do it. actions speak louder than words.

19 Sep 2016 17:18:45
Hey guys, can anyone tell me why only Barton got suspended when Halliday was in amongst this too. It takes two to tango. to me MW has just showed favouritism over the players at the club. both should have been suspended or both just fined and put the money put back into the club.

But at the end of the day we don't know the full story and probably never will know it. But to me it's just a shambles when Barton out for 3 weeks and now can have a holiday where is Halliday will get game time without any disciplinary action against him.

Thoughts?

19 Sep 2016 17:32:12
If you read your post again you will find that you have answered your own question. -.

19 Sep 2016 17:34:50
Halliday did not go head to head with the hat. Barton did and deservedly gets 3 week ban.

. move aside and enter the young pretender Rossiter in the hat we trust.

19 Sep 2016 17:38:14
agree fifa, unless its for the comments aimed at your gaffer, then he has no choice, really thought barton would be a standout this season but to me looks like he underestimated this league and the standard tbh.

19 Sep 2016 17:38:52
What did Halliday do? As far as I'm aware nothing. Barton has been told off multiple times apparently. He also had a confrontation with warbs instant no no right there.

19 Sep 2016 23:44:31
Mate your saying in the hat we trust, your forgetting it was MW who signed Barton! Only got his self to blame.

19 Sep 2016 15:29:34
Barton is a low life who only cares about himself his tweets and interviews are cringe worthy, I for one am glad he'll never represent our great club again.

19 Sep 2016 19:24:18
Got to agree crumlin. he's a self centred, self obsessed big headed numpty whos not got an ounce of ability to back it up.

19 Sep 2016 20:52:13
Bluedie

Sorry but you can't say he has no ability. He has played in the Premiership for a lot of years and has played for some big clubs.

19 Sep 2016 22:54:56
Sorry biffo but yes i can. it does my head in when people say, "but he's played for big clubs". so does that mean every player in the EPL is a good player. wot abt guys we've had that have won the biggest trophys ther is to win E. G-capucho, guivarch, boli. guys like konterman and namouchi playing in world cups. it doesn't mean a jot where he's played.

19 Sep 2016 14:30:22
After Celtic dropping points I'm reasonably happy with how the weekend went.
Even although we never clawed back the points I was happier with how we played.
The midfield looked more dynamic, add Rossiter and Crooks to the mix and we can only improve. Great to see wee Holty and Windass together, they will make those 2 positions their own. Niko is better coming on at 60 mins when the game has slowed down. I hope he can be more for us but he needs to get sharper.
Think the defence also looked the most comfortable it has been. Hill just might redeem himself yet and Wilson looked good. Tavernier and Foz must surely have silenced all doubters, they look like our best players this year imo. Tav especially he is turning into something special.
In attack is where I feel the manager needs to be braver. Forrester and MOH should be given some starts, McKay and Waggy are off the boil and need rotated.
I know before anyone says it that dropping points at home to County is not good enough, but I have mellowed with my expectations for the time being and I definitely seen signs of the Rangers from last year coming back. Most of us on here last season thought we needed experience to help out our young team but having had that and seen it failed, I think it was the wild abandonement from last year was what Celtic, Dundee and the like couldn't cope with. Bring it back I say!

19 Sep 2016 16:04:12
Recbob, I tend to agree with the fact that we substituted the swagger of youth with too much experience. A balance is needed to get us back to playing at our best. That and a few starts for MOH and Forrester getting more starts, then fingers crossed, but I doubt if we will be able to sort out the central defence in the short term. Or possibly deploying a deep lying defensive midfielder to cover the back 2 and build our attacks from there.

19 Sep 2016 16:07:34
The fact Forrester has been one of our strongest players this season and didn't even feature at the weekend is ridiculous.

Hill and Wilson were the best partnership we've seen this season in that position. Senderos will add quality throughout the coming weeks alongside Wilson.

Waghorn needs game time to get him up to speed. MOH needs to start. McKay needs rested. Windass and Holt have to play. Crooks needs game time as does Dodoo. Even off the bench for Crooks and Dodoo but hopefully see them play a part.

Excited for this game tomorrow, hopefully a comfortable win but have a feeling it'll go to the wire.

19 Sep 2016 17:06:25
Don't understand the Forrester situation either- he should be in team or on bench.

Really hope we can get a positive result against our bogey team - I'm from Dumfries and remember the days when rangers used to send a reserve team down for friendlies and still win by 6 or 7.

19 Sep 2016 17:26:53
Forrester in that midfield three is vital.

Would rather have him in the team than Waghorn, Kranjcar, O Halloran, McKay and anyone else in the midfield bar, Holt and Windass to be honest.

He's one of the only players who's shown close to top form this season.

19 Sep 2016 18:04:47
A lot of positives but we still need to score goals and we are crying out for a leader on the football park.

The sooner Rossiter is fit the better. He should replace Barton since he looks to be our best player in that role. Not sure where Crooks fits in but everything suggests that when he is fully fit he will be a major asset.

Weaknesses remain at centre back although Wilson does appear to be a better bet although who partners him is probably still debatable. No doubt that Tavernier and Fotheringham have Improved but worrying that Wallace is struggling and he really isn't a Captain, he just doesn't have the leadership qualities needed.

Rossiter should be the first name on the team sheet each week along with Windass. Players like Forrester and Crooks perhaps fighting it out for the other midfield role or we play both and sacrifice Waghorn with Holt and Gardner. I am not a fan of Halliday, I just don't think he is good enough and on current form, McKay does not merit a place in the starting line up and for me Krancjar needs to be used as an impact player as does Miller.

19 Sep 2016 18:40:22
I think the manager signed every player for a reason and did have a master plan on what players to play, just injuries and lack of match sharpness from certain players (not just new ones) has given everyone a false idea of what where we're at. The quality is still there, we've just not seen it yet.
Hopefully once we get everyone fit and firing we can recapture some of the form that had SPFL teams terrified of us last year. I still think this is a better squad than last years but it's yet to find its form. A few victories this week would go a long way to changing all that .

19 Sep 2016 19:28:19
Got to say i don't get the big hype abt Forrester, i think he's not bad but definitely dot think he is a starter. if everyones fit the midfield should be holt, windass and rossiter for me.

19 Sep 2016 20:54:28
Ross County offered nothing going forward and their star striker missed the game. No wonder Hill played well as he wasn't tested. Let's hope you are saying the same thing after next Sunday.

19 Sep 2016 14:15:59
So Barton banned for 3 weeks.
Not good as his mouth has another 3 weeks to just open.
If the guy dose get back then he will have to fight for his place in the team.
He can talk the talk and it's his mouth that's playing the football at the moment.
He has to shut up and show us the football side of him and show the fans of our great club that we as Rangers don't need a Donald Trump at the moment .
We need a Muhammad Ali.
Do what you say you are going to do and bloody do it.

19 Sep 2016 15:27:56
I agree that he will need to fight for his place because hopeully your Rossiter will be fit and playing well. I just don't want an inferior player like Halliday that appears to have thrown his toys out his pram because (1) he was dropped for Barton, and (2), he didn't like hearing the truth!

19 Sep 2016 16:36:59
and what has rossiter done in a jersey to be so highly thought of? ever not even at rangers in general? halliday has done nothing but try his hardest for the club and been one of our best players for over a year. inferior player? compared to who? okay he's no Barry ferguson but he has been a solid player for us and deserves some respect.

19 Sep 2016 18:13:00
Rossiter, when he has played for us this season has been one of our best players. Before his injury he was chapping on the door at Liverpool for first team football. He is a Young England International and captains the team. He has the potential to become a quality player in the Ferguson or (as was suggested by Liverpool fans), Gerard mould.

Halliday, whether we like it or not, is a mediocre player who will never be any better than he is. He did a decent job for us in an inferior league last season and was generally given the benefit of the doubt for being played out of position. We move on, we are in a better league than the Championship now and we need better quality players something that the manager identified. We won't win this league with the Halliday's of this world, and winning is all that matters!

19 Sep 2016 18:42:39
I think Halliday showed on Saturday he still has a part to play. He just can't play with Barton and Rossiter together.
Beside any mixture of the other midfielders we have he looks fine.

19 Sep 2016 13:39:47
Joey Barton should be made your captain not suspended, rangers are not coming out ov this with any respect from anyone the way it's been handled.

19 Sep 2016 13:57:03
Says who? The whole world knows what Barton is like, his past history speaks for itself. If there was trouble it's because he instigated it there were no problems with the harmony of the team last year.

19 Sep 2016 14:08:26
If any player speak out against management he must be reprimanded. The Club has acted correctly, except whoever leaked the story.
We'll move on, Barton might change me back and dig in to fight his place up or he'll ask for his contract to be terminated. Will either be the making or end his Ibrox career, it's ip to him.

19 Sep 2016 14:39:28
Barton has a past but if you know him personally you realise he just loves winning and if he has told some home truths then it's because the players in question needed the kick up the back side he loves football and he will want absolutely nothing more than to win the league at rangers.

19 Sep 2016 15:32:02
The guy that seems to have been the most vociferous in the argument with Barton was Halliday. What Barton said is true, Halliday couldn't take it. He should have been dealt with by the Management as well. I agree that Barton needed to have action taken against him for his argument with Warburton but Halliday should also have been suspended. For me he just can't accept that he is no where near good enough for Rangers! Playing in a crap league like the Championship does not make his good enough for the SPL. I just hope that Rossiter gets the role that Barton was playing and that Halliday at best is on the bench.

19 Sep 2016 16:03:10
Tomusa, why should halliday be punished? did halliday give the manager abuse like barton?

19 Sep 2016 16:59:49
Tom, unless you know exactly what was said, how do you know Halliday couldn't handle it. Barton is a scumbag, we knew this before he arrived. He hasn't changed, and possibly/ probably, his presence in the dressing room has had a detrimental effect. Get rid of him, and watch how the Celtic fans start clinging to every word as he bad mouths Rangers. He has been a mistake, and an expensive mistake.

19 Sep 2016 17:50:13
I never wanted Barton- but I am disgusted by many of the comments from so called fans.

I hope we do see him in a rangers shirt- if nothing else to irritate those who are condemning him without knowing the full circumstances.

All we know is the pathetic leak from club- how would you like your boss to publicly scapegoat you and try to force you out of your job?

19 Sep 2016 13:36:24
Warburton making no comment with regards to Barton incident at today's press conference. - Saying matters will be conducted in a professional manner by the club - refused to say if Barton was suspended on full pay or no pay.

19 Sep 2016 13:42:00
It will be full pay it has to be until disciplinary procedure is done with.

19 Sep 2016 13:49:14
Why on earth should he tell the press if he is on full pay or not. it's a private matter.

19 Sep 2016 16:27:03
It was a question that a journalist asked towards the end of the press conference. -.

19 Sep 2016 13:04:36
Suspending Barton for 3 weeks benefits no one but our opposition. As for why did this fiasco need to be public knowledge, well we'd all be scratching our heads right now wondering what happened to the guy. We've been calling for transparency and we got it. That said, is Rossiter injured? Never mentioned in the press interviews.

19 Sep 2016 13:19:11
He is injured, I believe Warbs told us that.

19 Sep 2016 13:44:37
A 3 week suspension for Barton, it must have been some argument and why does Halliday seem to be getting away without punishment, looks like there's a lot more to this than we are getting told, can't see any way back for Barton now somehow.

19 Sep 2016 14:25:52
seems to be Bartons comments were worse than halliday.

19 Sep 2016 14:47:38
Hi Jack!

I think the problem lies with the part of the argument when he has refused to back down to the manager.
Players arguing amongst themselves is fine but you cannot disrespect the manager and expect to get away with this.
Further punishment has been doled out because being disrespectful and then not understanding this is not ok! He either backs down or proves he has no respect for manager and club and should be hounded all the way back south!

19 Sep 2016 11:54:03
Opinion on the Barton issue.

I liked the guy when he first came and spoke very well etc

But if he feels he's achieved a sporting ambition by playing in the famous Old Firm match their isn't really any reason for him to stay now imo.

To go onto the radio and continue the issue on air shows to me that his actions are contradictory to his twitter comments and what angered me further was the pally wally approach by Jim Whyte who really should have grilled him or told him to eff off as a Rangers man and decline an interview, however, granted that Whyte was doing his job.

2nd point

The Rangers captaincy.

Is Lee Wallace the commanding and vocal leader? I can't help but feel he was the stand out within a bad bunch of players and got the role.

For me kenny Miller plays by example.

Maybe now is the time to change it as with Wallace, Miller being the senior regular starter of the squad and with motor mouth joey now with us I just wonder if Warburton sees an issue here.

I like Wallace but not convinced of his leadership ability.

Whether Joey stays or goes change the captaincy.

19 Sep 2016 12:15:11
Barton is a gonner - No pre-season to speak of, lack of fitness and then a further 3 week ban with no training or match time - clearly Warburton see's no future for him.

19 Sep 2016 12:41:39
For me a big performance next three games is needed get foot on the pedal again focus boys.

19 Sep 2016 14:26:52
Kenny Miller wasn't a good footballer 15 year ago, 10 years ago, 5 year ago and he still isn't. he's a workhorse and a good one at that nowhere near good enough for us or the spl and certainly not captain.

19 Sep 2016 15:36:04
We need to find a leader from somewhere but right now I don't see one at the Club other than young Rossiter who captains England's youth team, or Barton, and that is not likely to happen. Wallace has no leadership qualities whatsoever

As for Barton, only time will tell whether he will come good or not. He deserved to be banned by the Club but Halliday should also have been in trouble! A guy that does't like being told the truth and thinks he is better than he is!

19 Sep 2016 18:09:43
Cee give me 11 footballers like kenny miller any day.

19 Sep 2016 11:24:14
Barton suspended for another 3 weeks. Can't help but think this is it for him, especially as I expect our form to improve over that period and it will become obvious he isn't required! I think a mountains been made out of a molehill but if rumours that the players don't like him are true then we can't afford more issues or risk MW losing the dressing room!

19 Sep 2016 11:31:34
Sounds about the right punishment for me albeit he'll be quite happy with the extra time to promote his book which I have no intention of ever reading.

19 Sep 2016 11:43:05
Right punishment?! More like a complete joke.

The club have handled this terribly.

The scapegoating of Barton by the club and fans is pathetic.

19 Sep 2016 11:55:28
The line in the Rangers statement "Neither party will make any further statement or comment on this issue. " sounds like a threat to Barton. Wonder if he'll be able to keep quiet for the 3 weeks.

On another note, Barton is unfit as it is so I can't imagine how 3 weeks off would be a good thing as he'll just come back worse. Saw someone mention he should train with the juniors which I agree with to an extent and then remember Joey's history with youth players and cigars.

19 Sep 2016 12:11:54
I don't believe thie incident was all Bartons fault but difference is he should stay off radio and Twitter shouting his mouth off. he fired up brown before Celtic game and it came back to bite him. do your talking on pitch from now on if you get the chance.

19 Sep 2016 12:49:34
It (mostly) takes two to argue or in this case three- Barton, halliday and Warburton.

Apparently two of them are absolutely completely blameless and it's all Bartons fault- get real.

Public scapegoating is an attempt to get Barton to agree to contract termination- absolutely shameful and pathetic behaviour by a manager out his depth.

19 Sep 2016 13:10:29
Totally agree 👍 Smith sourness or even mcleish would never have handled it like that it would have been dealt with the n then ( by a slap if it was sourness or Smith) I just don't like that one guy has been made scapegoat for it all especially by a boss who seems to take no responsibility for anything.

19 Sep 2016 13:29:42
Doesn't matter who's fault it is they didn't go social media radio shouting their mouths off Barton did. couldve sorted itout between themselves.

19 Sep 2016 18:22:14
The question for me is who leaked it to the press in the first place, Rangers and their PR team have previous for this so I am not jumping down Barton's throat irrespective of the fact that he should not have gone on Social Media. Sadly, no one comes out of this with any credit.

Should he have been brought in, very debatable and not needed given the arrival of Crooks and Rossiter, or was it a case of King wanting a couple of Marquee signings on the cheap! A big mistake if that was the case!

19 Sep 2016 11:18:00
I find it a strange decision to ban Barton for another 3 weeks, truly baffling.

Granted, I nor anyone else know exactly what went on in the training ground, or again today at the stadium, however, to have your highest earner and biggest profile player kicking his heels at home instead of say sending him to train with the unders just beggars belief.
It further compounds my thoughts that the management is not handling the pressure of the situation well at all. There was no need for this to become public knowledge in the first place.

We are fast becoming a shambles again (I use the term shambles loosely of course after the previous custodians) . We are indecisive on and off the park at the best of times, let alone with this now heaped on top. I am fast losing patience with the approach (or lack of it) to the tactics and tempo of the team, the transfers and the wasting of transfer fees - Garner and MOH (not slating the players, just don't fit our system)
Things need to change, Warbs needs to change.

19 Sep 2016 11:31:07
How the hell does Garner nor MOH suit our system? I've liked Garner so far, yeah sure hasn't scored but he has done rather well. MOH I have no idea how he doesn't start more often.

19 Sep 2016 11:37:39
TBB - I agree, for over a year now we have listened to the same mantra. We are learning, we will get better. By now I would have thought we would at least be on a par or better than most teams in the SPL. WE ARE NOT, and no amount of blue tinted glasses will cover it up. Next 2 games will be interesting. We've struggled and QOS regularly over the past 2 seasons. Aberdeen quite frankly will steam roller us as the are very physical and won't sit back and watch passing the ball to no effect 30 yards out.
Head back under the covers time I think.
r us.

19 Sep 2016 11:39:33
MOH is a pace player, he hasn't got a killer touch or dribbling ability - he needs exactly what St Johnstone provided, balls to run on to.

Garner is not a drop deep and link up kind of player, he is edge of the box/ in the box, physical and wiry - he needs balls into the box and balls over the top (like MOH)

I like both of these players but when you consider the outlay for them, to then not play a style or tempo that attracts the best of their qualities, I find that strange.

Again this is just the transfer fees that I am poking my issue at, not the players themselves.

19 Sep 2016 11:46:43
Surely once was enough.

MOH is crap. He can't score, he can't pass and he can't cross. Has done nothing since we signed him either in championship or now in spl. There is a very good reason he doesn't play- because he has done nothing when he Has.

Garner was a panic signing. No doubt he was a key player for Preston but he is exactly the kind of player that we don't need- a workhorse.

19 Sep 2016 11:55:23
I think you are completely wrong about MOH, he can dribble and he has pace to burn, give him the ball on the wing and he will take it past anyone you put there. Garner I think suits our system perfectly, it's just unfortunate that we have 1 or 2 greedy players in our side. Windass should have passed him the ball when he took it past the goalkeeper. Waghorn should have swung it to the back post instead of shooting. better decision making by the players will make plenty of goals for Garner.

19 Sep 2016 12:18:08
Onlyshow. Garner hasn't scored? Apart from the goal against Celtic you mean?

19 Sep 2016 12:22:05
O'Halloran has pace to burn but Warburton has not figured out how to use it - 3 starts for Rangers in total - The only guy in the squad who has proven himself as a successful SPFL player, a guy Warburton pursued for weeks! He's too direct for Warburton's now pedestrian build up. Our game has become all about possession with no end product.

19 Sep 2016 12:48:49
Albertz, I completely forgot about that goal, and that game.

19 Sep 2016 13:14:48
Ohalloran isn't a winger, nowhere near it in fact, that said, neither was Lovenkrands and arguably we got best from him playing him through the middle, but as mentioned above, Warbs won't do that - or change to a style suitable of getting the best out of his players.

19 Sep 2016 14:06:23
I think garner will be a great player for us when he settles into the team, where as MOH has got the pace but that's about it his passing and crossing of the ball is horrendous, I really can't understand why Warburton pursued him and he can't even get a game,

19 Sep 2016 10:45:49
My god the panic on here is a joke, give it time, it takes time for a team to gel, see instead of saying we bought crap players in the summer, how about getting behind the team and actually supporting them, I bet the players aren't looking forward to playing at home at the minute because of fans getting on at them, give them time, if anyone thought that we would just stroll back into the premiership after 4yrs away and challenge Celtic first season are mad, it's going to take time, let the gaffer do his job, and we can do our job and support them.

19 Sep 2016 11:42:58
I did tip Celtic to win the league this year but is it really mad to think that a team like Rangers with by far the second biggest budget in Scotland shouldn't be able to mount a serious challenge to a club who really are pretty average and have played in the two most embarrassing defeats ever meted out to Scottish clubs in Europe?

19 Sep 2016 11:43:36
I agree with you del.

19 Sep 2016 11:46:50
Just seen Barton interview as he left ibrox after meeting he was asked if he was still gers player and he replied I think so. looks all over for him .

19 Sep 2016 10:29:33
Yeah we are struggling just now, but if anyone thought that rangers would just waltz back into the premier league and challenge Celtic are mad, Celtic are way ahead of us at the minute.
The gaffer is trying to build our club from the bottom up, it's going to take time,4yrs we've been out this league, we don't have the same quality we did back then ie davis, naithsmith, jelevic, players of that quality are gone, let's show people why we think we're the best fans in Scotland, the same fans that had 50.000 at 3rd division games, the same fans that have backed our club through hell the last 4yrs, get behind warburton, he really is building something good, but it won't happen over night, I expect to find our feet this season then next year we will be much stronger, just give it time and support the team and the manager, and let's not start panicking the soon as things aren't going well, let's show them what rangers fans are all about, a phrase comes to mind.

19 Sep 2016 13:45:30
Hearts did a lot better a job with under half our budget so what your saying holds no arguement.

19 Sep 2016 14:28:30
hearts hadn't had the problems we had before they got there.

19 Sep 2016 18:13:24
Guess what, were only a month into the season, so stop moaning and support the team.

19 Sep 2016 10:21:00
See the always well spoken pragmatic mr chris sutton lol ( i'm not bitter at all) has spoken about his love of the bears again, how can somebody that failed as a manager comment that the job is too big for warbs, how that guy gets media contracts ill never know, stick to try to stay in the lines with your crayons chris and we'll deal with our club.
With love us bears
P. s as you know its swings and roundabouts in the old firm chris, so no pants have been pulled down.

19 Sep 2016 10:59:38
they try to getunintelligent people to be pundits so that they can pair them with a half descent one for every lovell and craigan who are descent pundits there is a Stewart and Sutton.

19 Sep 2016 12:47:10
Posters on here have been saying for weeks that MW isn't up to it lads, yet sutton said the same and now hea a panto villain, love or loathe him he speaks his mind, unlike the rest of the pundits that toe the line.

19 Sep 2016 13:49:37
Think Sutton is pretty fair any games on bt I see he is pretty impartial and tells it like it is he called Delia out and was proved right he's doing the same with with Warburton I'm struggling to see how some supporters think the guy is a God the honeymoon period is well and truly over and he's getting found out every game we've got 2 wins and are lucky it's no wins.

19 Sep 2016 09:36:04
The one major thing we can take from the weekends performance is that we do not need Barton in midfield. The performance on the weekend is the best I have seen so far. It was energetic, it was a lot quicker than usual and the best part is it had great link up and chemistry. Quick bit before anyone comments about the result, yeah sure it was 0-0, that's down to the players not the manager, he can tell the boys what to do, but he can't put the ball in the net himself.

19 Sep 2016 11:35:50
Which game were you watching?
We were so slow (tempo wise) and as much as Windass looks good, we are just the same old boring tactics and same slow, pass pass pass pass pass approach for the last 12 months with no immediate tempo to it. It is so frustrating to watch, there are players like Garner, Miller etc that make intelligent runs behind and unless Danny Wilson pings one from the back, no one attempts to find them.
We need a change of style and urgently as decent managers find us out time and again, Brenda, Stubbs, McIntyre, Dyche etc.

19 Sep 2016 12:16:31
I beg to differ, I've not missed a game this season and I'll happily say that performance was the one i'm most pleased with. Holt Halliday and Windass proved to be the better midfield trio, it was quick, it was better all round. Barton slows the play down horribly. Yeah sure at times the attacking 3 slowed it down a bit however overall vast improvement. Blazer were you the guy sat behind me on Saturday? he too was doom and gloom and nothing was good enough for him either.

19 Sep 2016 09:02:39
Morning bears/ bearness, so it's another week with another poor result, 6 games in and we sit 5th with 9 points, absolutely terrible position to be in if your Glasgow Rangers, still early doors though, the only thing we keep saying to ourselves to perk us up and move to the next week, we haven't had any luck in games, plus there's a bit of animosity surrounding our club at the moment, in which we need fixed ASAP, is it just me? Or does anybody else think listening to MW after games is becoming tiresome? Last year he was cool calm knew how to play the press, the pressures on and nothing seems to b going his way, u canny half tell by the way he's been talking, when has such a manager ever been happy with a 0-0 with Ross county at ibrox, we need a steady starting 11, and we need to start scoring goals, the team isn't good enough!

19 Sep 2016 10:04:57
MW certainly under pressure, see that Chris Sutton now jumping on the the bandwagon. Agree we need steady starting 11 and clear from the weekend that we need to play at a high tempo. Would urge all bears to support MW and remember where we have been the last 5 years.

19 Sep 2016 10:28:31
I think we may have found our starting 11, a few tweaks could be done, but I reckon that is it. Rossiter maybe in for Halliday (big Halliday fan but Rossiter is one for the future) and possibly drop McKay for the time being as his form is dreadful. I'd possibly drop Wallace too but it doesn't look good dropping your captain. Other than that yeah I reckon the starting 11 on Saturday is our future starting 11.

19 Sep 2016 11:00:20
halliday left back and bring rossiter/ Barton in.