Rangers Banter Archive August 01 2012
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01 Aug 2012 18:29:04
Savage yesterday tweeting “Spoke to Charles green again yesterday ! Could I ?”. This was soon followed by a message reading “I’ll be speaking in the morning to ally (McCoist) tweeps !”.
Carling1873 {Ed039's Note - Bollocks, he is at the wind up)
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No he's not.
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Roberta The Savage would look fab in his spangly wee dress runnin' aroon D3 in the depths of a bitter Scottish winter!
Oh how you all make me laugh.
Oh and by the way....the jelly and ice cream ain't finished yet, me laddies! lol
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01 Aug 2012 18:23:46
"Rangers are considering a move for Romanian midfielder Andrei Ionescu, Media understands".
Carling1873
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Great player will defo rip apart the 3rd div
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@ 1.)...........too true....he could hold Roberta The Savage's hairdryer for him at half time! lol
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ChrisBhoy
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Isn't he under contract until 2013?
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01 Aug 2012 18:21:36
Team for East fife(hopefully)
Alexander
Broadfoot
Goian
Boca
Wallace
Black
Kafes
Hutton
Little
McCouloch
Sheils
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Why play players out of position ?? {Ed039's Note - Like who?)
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Broadfoot is out of position, shouldnt be anywhere near the team!
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@ Ed039.....like them all. They're not footballers coz if they were they wouldn't have been left to rot in 3D.......or D3.......call it what you like but a spade's a spade!
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ChrisBhoy {Ed039's Note - Who do you play for?)
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01 Aug 2012 18:15:33
On the rangers website they have uploaded pics of their training sessioj this morning...and bedoya was there! Signs that he may be staying perhaps? If anybody knows any other reason please reply to this to let me or, or ED do you have any ideas? {Ed039's Note - As far as I am aware he is waiting on his agent putting the finishing touches on a move to Helsingborg, he accepted to transfer across so he must train)
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Ed ur not in the know then as helsingborg ave cooled there interest can we get a ed thats in the know
probably wont get posted as u cant say anything about eds on here {Ed039's Note - You can, but depending on what mood I am in I might ban you. Oh and by the way, watch this space about him going to Helsingborg)
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01 Aug 2012 18:08:24
why are we entertainig robbie savage
who can only play mid week games ,
Give a young boy a chance , somebody
who will play for the jersey with pride
we do not need tv pundit on an ego trip
bear in the bay {Ed039's Note - Who is entertaining him? There no chance he will be playing football next season)
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01 Aug 2012 17:35:45
By the time we are back in Europe the co-efficient will be beside league of Ireland. The champions will have qualifiers in May. The national team will suffer also. What a shambles
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And if you'd been in Europe somehow, it would have been any better?
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The national team will suffer also?? yeh, cos they're waaaaay up there in the rankings right now eh?
and remind us all please, what exactly did defunct fc contribute to the co-efficient?
please....stop worrying about things that don't concern you
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Yes it's a tragedy for Scottish football. Who shall we blame then?? Let's see.....how about Tesco, Asda and Lidl. So far they're the only people you haven't blamed for your robbing and cheating!
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ChrisBhoy
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@2 Last scottish team in a euro final.
This is you on your banana skin qualifying round with 1 win in last 32 away games.
Not worrying at all looking in from the outside an luvin it!
You wont need to worry about cash projections cos no big names will want to play for you in the spl.
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01 Aug 2012 16:46:36
Bears - do yourselves a favour when someone from the club makes a statement, go to the website and listen to the statement, dont read a newspaper headline and a description what was said as very often the newspapers do not reflect the tone or content of the actual statement and jump on to one or two words to make a sensational headline.
JG
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Thats a nice idea JG, but have you been on the rangers website - it seriously sucks.
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@1 - it has been revamped and has improved, also all statements are shown on video as actually spoken and not a journalist's interpretation of what was said
JG
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01 Aug 2012 16:44:14
Seen a couple of papers are running good news stories about Scottish football, reporting how the £13m per year tv deal is a massive cash boost....I then click on the records website and they're going with 'Massive Cash Blow' as SPL lose £17m on TV deal! just typical of that rag to put a negative spin on everything. The lost revenue equates to less than £285k per year for each SPL club, its barely going to have major repercussions and cause the doomsday scenario we have all been warned about. I am sure every single club will manage just fine
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Last year Sky and the country’s leading clubs had settled on £80m over five years but the contracts were never signed. And it’s believed the deal will give the SPL only £63m over a similar period.
But from that figure £9m will have to be paid to the SFL over the next three years and then £4m over the remaining two years of the deal.
That, of course, means several SPL clubs are still facing financial hardship.
Think you will find this will affect the SPL clubs more than you think.
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Wouldn't be so sure about teams managing, believe two or three in admin by Christmas
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With Rangers in the Third Division the SFL were able to sell their TV rights to the SPL for just more than £1m a year for the next three years and that fee will have to come out of the new Sky deal.
The SPL must also pay a £2m settlement fee – agreed when the top clubs broke away in 1998 – every year and that, too, will be taken out of the new telly package.
So, with SPL chief executive Neil Doncaster and Celtic chief Peter Lawwell, who led the negotiating team, having agreed a new package worth just less than £13m a year the amount to be spread among the 12 top clubs is actually only around £10m a year for the next three years.
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@2: and out through a CVA not long after probably.
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Rememmber if they go into admin thye only get 10point deduction and come out with no debt ,,,,,,,,,,idiots
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By Christmas the league will have taken on its new shape and crowds will be up. Celtic won't run away with it because rangers won't be there taking points off competing teams. Would be the same if celtic went bankrupt. The only way its mathematically possible for celtic to waltz it is if they win every game. That has never happenned. It was rangers who actually, in reality, in the real world,went bust. Nobody else.
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@6 don't be silly the prob is that all the over teams are about equal and capable of beating each other. For example Motherwell were third in spl last season now you could not guarantee they could defo beat any other team where as Celtic are expected to win all their games home and away rangers only played Motherwell four times meaning the most points we could have taken of them was 12 but Celtic were 30 odd points ahead of Motherwell so stop talking tripe
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01 Aug 2012 16:36:37
really worried aboot awe these £7k a week deals we're handing out.
Can we really afford them?
Who's identifying these targes since wir chief scout and saviour in waiting "Bomber" has resigned?
I hope it's no Ally 'cos he's no got a very good track record!
Remember Celik and MacKay? {Ed039's Note - Neil Murray is cheif scout)
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Have not seen confirmation of any wages yet. {Ed039's Note - Shiels is thought to have signed a deal worth £7k a week)
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Why does it look like Ally is not picking any of these players? Why so many who are outwith Scottish Football and know nothing of the division or type of football that will have to be played? Green etc appear to be going over the top signing players for the sake of signing? WHY? This is a very strange thing to do especially as he has not got the funds at present or(backers) and will have to depend on the season ticket money alone? He wants our money from tickets to pay this new wage bill ? and this money will not last long at the present rates of pay of players £3000 to at least £10,000 counting players still on old contracts ?which makes our wage bill at present not counting other staff at Ibrox & Murray Park, plus managers and his team and also the new Directors.? there must be presently around £7000,000 to over £1,000,000 being spent on a weekly basis? Prehaps more if going on old figure of Duff and Phelps which showed over £2,000,000 being spent per month? Not being funny we can not presently afford this kind of expenditure? waken up Bears this is going same way as before but a lot quicker, we are going to rob Peter to pay Paul (or Green & backers). He will make the Glaziers in charge at Manchester look like bloody saints. Keep your money from him your paying his bills at present.
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who exactly has been outwith Scottish football so far?
Black, Shiels, Beattie or Kyle lol
Kafes and Ionescu are the only 2, hardly "so many"
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01 Aug 2012 14:44:26
Hi Ed , just a thought .... has there been any suggestion on another Big friendly in the coming month or so at Ibrox that would fill the place & put a few coffers in our account. the last time Chelsea came up , both sets of fans had a great day,& the atmosphere was superb ?? BIG BILL... {Ed039's Note - Nothing yet, alot of teams have their fill of friendlies confirmed already and with the seasons starting soon it will be difficult, but not impossible)
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Lets just concentrate on East Fife and East Stirling etc
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01 Aug 2012 15:55:44
SEASON TICKET PAYMENT OPTIONS
Fans can choose to pay by:
• Cash
• Cheque
• Debit/Credit card in either one instalment or spread over 4 monthly instalments. If paying by instalments the first of these will be taken on or around Tuesday 7 August, with subsequent payments being taken on or around 31 August, 28 September and 31 October
So what about direct debit?
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Monthly installment by debit card is direct debit I think {Ed039's Note - No its not, its different)
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I am going for option 4 keeping my money in my pocket. 4th tier Scottish football you having a laugh.
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@2 thats your right to choose, but do us all a favour and dont try to sneak back when we are at the top again, you will not be missed
JG
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01 Aug 2012 14:10:06
More of a question,
How many full times clubs will Scotland have in three years time?
Das Shadow
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The same as now, despite what you might hope. Some may go into administration but should leave through a CVA as none have withheld tax etc.
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But they will be demoted surley like livinston an rangers
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@2: only if liquidated.
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Oh right i get it now, how stupid of me to think that all these clubs creditors are going to be given a vote to decide wether to accept a cva or not. Reply number 1 you have enlightened me with your financial knowledge. So all you need to do is pay all due tax and all the rest of the debt just vanishes. Why oh why couldnt you have been craig whytes financial advisor when he took over. I actually think you could make a lot cash with your financial advisory. Tax man not involved then cva gets instantly accepted. Absolute genuis why isnt every club doing this.
Sorry for the sarcasm just all the finance experts on this site get a bit boring after a while, think they know everything cos they heard someone say it, truth is they dont.
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@4: that's not all but it was widely believed that Rangers creditors would have accepted the CVA proposal - most Rangers-minded 'financial experts' among others did - had HMRC not been a major creditor. If HMRC aren't, in the case of other clubs, it's highly likely that a CVA will be accepted - it has been in the case of clubs who have gone into administration in the past.
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If THE RANGERS FC LTD continue to try and pay players £7,000 a week on Div 3 income , then i'm afraid they are in more danger of going to the wall than any SPL club , that sort of outlay is unsustainable because after a show of defiance in your first 2 or 3 games your crowds will dwindle to 15,000 to 20,000 max , yous will not get 40,000 to watch East Stirlingshire , Elgin City , Montrose etc , no chance not going to happen .
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01 Aug 2012 14:01:28
When I was a young rangers fan the talent was home grown or bought from lower leagues (Ritchie shearer callow et al). In the last 20 years we have neglected tis source in favour of foreign mercenaries. We now have a real opportunity to create an academy that will attract the very best of Scottish youth with the promise that if good enough they will get a chance of first team football. We should make clear our ambition to win the SPL within 5 years with a Scottish squad.
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Wasn't that what Murray Park was supposed to do already?
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Although Im English it would fill me with pride if all Scots made up the first team. I may not live there anymore but Scotland deserves better than the recent farce's and I hope we improve Scottish football from here on in. CheltBlue
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Butcher, Gazza, Spackman, Woods, Boumsong, Boli, Hurley, Sterland, the De Boers, Flo, Lowenkrands, Van Vossen - all good Scottish lads you brought through. Yep a return to those days eh ? {Ed039's Note - All guys from the last 20 years, merceneries the OP calls them, read the post before you let your belly rumble)
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Mercenaries ? I bet you werent saying that at the time...they were all seen as good Rangers men who played for the jersey.
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01 Aug 2012 13:29:12
Think we should be looking to get in some good young players to go with the experience we already have this is the best chance be will ever has to bring our own through seems like where goin down the same road as before bring in overpayed average players. A know were in the 3rd but shiels couldnt get neat the doncaster rovers squad a team that is now in league one so if hes not good enough for them why bother signing him for us. Youth is the answer
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01 Aug 2012 12:42:53
is there new season ticket forms being sent out ?
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People will start receiving them from today. The renewal deadline is Tuesday, you can renew in person at the ticket office, online, or by returning the form. I renewed today and was in a call queue for 20 minutes so I assume they are quite busy with renewals.
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@1: is it a premium rate number? If so, that might be why you were kept waiting...
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01 Aug 2012 12:36:40
See a lot of so called fans calling our team by sevco. The history is only broken if you let be broken. We are Rangers!
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The history is broken cos you liquidated.Green,Goram,Brown,Gough how many people need to say it till you accept it.
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No yer no your sevco.henke7 {Ed039's Note - Was there not a decision on a formal name change yesterday? I think you are annoyed because its Rangers)
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Its all Timmy's calling us Sevco mate. All true blues know Rangers will always be Rangers. The same club regardless and history will never be lost or broken.
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There not rangers fans. Just people trying to get one up on us cause there hurting. RTID
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The best thing to do is ignore all the wind ups calling us sevco, newco etc do not post any replys. They will soon get bored talking to themselves. {Ed039's Note - My mum told me that about the bad boys at school and it didnt work lol)
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What's Woolworths called now then ?
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01 Aug 2012 12:33:30
SPL Season 2002-03
Actual End Season Table
TEAMS P GD PTS
Rangers 38 73 97
Celtic 38 72 97
Hearts 38 6 63
Kilmarnock 38 -9 57
Hibernian 38 -8 51
Aberdeen 38 -13 49
Dunfermline 38 -17 46
Dundee FC 38 -10 44
Livingston 38 -14 35
Partick Thistle 38 -21 35
Dundee United 38 -33 32
Motherwell 38 -26 28
If Rangers where stripped this year given 3 - 0 lose each game
Teams P GD PTS
Celtic 38 98 114
Hearts 28 48 90
Kilmarnock 22 24 74
Dunfermline 22 32 72
Hibernian 20 18 66
Dundee FC 16 22 60
Livingston 14 8 50
Partick Thistle 12 8 48
Aberdeen 12 2 48
Motherwell 12 -2 44
Dundee United 8 -4 38
Rangers 0 -114 0
What a difference for Dunfermline.
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Likewise Celtic should be given a 3-0 loss when they were using EBTs to pay Juninho. That season did look like;
Champions Rangers 93pts
CL Spot Celtic 92
Uefa Cup Hibs 61
No Europe Aberdeen
Relegated Dundee 33pts
So give Celtic a 3-0 every game and Dundee wouldn't have been relegated and another team would have gained a European place.
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I made an arse of that LOL
Actual End Season Table
TEAMS P GD PTS Rangers 38 73 97 Celtic 38 72 97 Hearts 38 6 63 Kilmarnock 38 -9 57 Hibernian 38 -8 51 Aberdeen 38 -13 49 Dunfermline 38 -17 46 Dundee FC 38 -10 44 Livingston 38 -14 35 Partick Thistle 38 -21 35 Dundee United 38 -33 32 Motherwell 38 -26 28
If Rangers where Stripped given 3 - 0 lose each game
Teams P GD PTS Celtic 38 83 102 Hearts 38 27 75 Kilmarnock 38 13 68 Hibernian 38 6 60 Dunfermline 38 11 58 Aberdeen 38 -1 57 Dundee FC 38 10 55 Livingston 38 -1 44 Partick Thistle 38 -6 44 Dundee United 38 -15 41 Motherwell 38 -13 34 Rangers 0 -100 0
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Have you even looked at what you have posted or did you copy and paste it? In your second table Celtic have still played 38 games (the only team to have done so?) and have gained an extra 17 points (I thought it was three points per game - 3*4=12 so how do you gain seventeen points when Celtic didn't even lose all the games against Rangers that season?). What a difference for Dunfermline indeed! Four three nil wins have gained them 26 points by your logic! Dundee Utd appear to have done alright though as 38 points is a pretty good return for only having played eight games. The final positions may actually be accurate when everything is worked out but nothing else within this post is.
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You really have too much time on your hands you sad we excuse for a human being!
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What a load of tosh
how can celtic gain 17 points never mind any other team
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Away and get a life, did you once support dunfermline and now a septic supporter?
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What a sad life you have, : ( how long did that take to work out and who helped you with the arithmetic
JG
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Celtic looked into ebt for juninho but changed there mind cause they know it was wrong do some research before posting p1sh {Ed039's Note - They didnt change their mind, they actually paid him it but declared it and paid tax, they obviously had some sound financial advise and not a part-time porn star/tax "expert")
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Yes doctor John probably got them sound tax advice.
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I did actually post an amendment that hasnt appeared
TEAMS P GD PTS
Rangers 38 73 97
Celtic 38 72 97
Hearts 38 6 63
Kilmarnock 38 -9 57
Hibernian 38 -8 51
Aberdeen 38 -13 49
Dunfermline 38 -17 46
Dundee FC 38 -10 44
Livingston 38 -14 35
Partick Thistle 38 -21 35
Dundee United 38 -33 32
Motherwell 38 -26 28
If Rangers where Stripped given 3 - 0 lose each game
Teams P GD PTS
Celtic 38 83 102
Hearts 38 27 75
Kilmarnock 38 13 68
Hibernian 38 6 60
Dunfermline 38 11 58
Aberdeen 38 -1 57
Dundee FC 38 10 55
Livingston 38 -1 44
Partick Thistle 38 -6 44
Dundee United 38 -15 41
Motherwell 38 -13 34
Rangers 0 -100 0
Like i said i made an arse of it noticed it
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01 Aug 2012 12:21:25
I'm starting to see through Green and I'm red with rage:-
Charles Green on June 8th: To actually go out publicly and recommend that the creditors vote down the CVA, it seems to me quite unbelievable, because what were doing in that is saying the history, the tradition, everything thats great about this club is swept aside.
He's only trying to protect his investment, get us all to buy season books for his imitation and through selling shares, 49% means he'll still have us with the short and curlies!
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At kast some support are starting to waken up to this mans lies and real motives MONEY MONEY MONEY......... then as he said he will walk away
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What a load of tosh!
I suspect you are not a Rangers fan, certainly does not sound like it. So what if Green makes money, don't have a problem with that at all. He has done exactly what he said would happen and told us he will be there until we are financially secure. I am sticking by him and it's time the suspicion ended.
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The 'bunnet' was roundly criticised by the majority of Celtic fans during his tenure for similar reasons (not a Celtic man, stealing our money etc) and by the time he left (with a handsome profit just as he said he would) they were singing his name and look where they are now financially in comparison to us. Green can only go when it is financially viable for him to do so and that means back in the SPL and playing in Europe. Let's hope he has the same affect on us that Mcann had on Celtic. I won't grudge him a penny of his profit if he leads us out of this mess as he claims he will.
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01 Aug 2012 11:47:18
does anyone actuall stop to think that the money going out on contracts to spl players mite be coming out of charles greens consurtiums pocket paying for it themsevlves so it gets us up the divisions at first time of asking remember we half a transfer ban coming so wee need quality players not rubbish
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WE are paying // the money he has pulled in form Season tickets doing funding as for rest we will have to wait and see what happens prehaps ,,,,,,admin again the way he is going.
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I thought with the fair play rules you can only spend what you make
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I've been waiting for someone to point this out. Once the novelty wears off Ibrox is going to be empty. Admin here we come again
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01 Aug 2012 11:16:51
Right guys few concerns that we're charging down a familiar road
Greens statement about having a better balance sheet than Celtic = fivers and tenners. Forget Celtic for the moment I say, not our concern
Ian Black = players we cannot really afford (or want)
I want to see this team built on solid foundations, it goes without saying that plan is to get back to SPL football and eventually European.
What I do not want is to become a graveyard for players who cannot get a game elsewhere looking to be hero worshipped on wages that would be better spent. We need to use the next couple of years to build, make savings (if this is possible). We need Ally and whats left of the scouting system to look out for players who want to play football for the right reasons and play as a team not an ego. Were in the lower divisions and do not need rejects looking to make a name for themselves. I hope Ian Black got a rollicking for being booked in his first game.
Im too long in the tooth for the badge kissers. We have 4 weeks to build a team that will last until January 2014. We need players for all positions and the bench. These leagues are physical and injuries will happen. Paying an inflated wage to one guy while were in the 3rd and hopefully the 2nd div for me is not the answer. I reckon well loss Wallace and Bocanegra as well..at least. Green and Ally lets see you build a team, enough of the talk BL72
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Great points.to pay shiels and black a reported 7k per week is madness.when there contracts end they will be over thirty
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01 Aug 2012 10:28:14
is david healy still at the club ?
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Was he ever??
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01 Aug 2012 09:46:24
Ten games on espn
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Never had espn and still won't be getting it anytime soon.
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@1 You don't know what you are missing.ESPN ----GREAT {Ed039's Note - I like it for all sorts of football and UFC)
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01 Aug 2012 05:57:37
Great news sky do a deal with scottish football. Now remember scottish football not s p l not rangers or celtic so why cant everyone just be happy that games shall be on tv as times are very hard and lots of us have not got money to go to games week in week out. I was glad to see rangers back on tv and thought good thats it football again and not all this what you called or what about your history rubbish, rangers shall always be rangers celtic shall always be celtic and airdrie are still airdrie. So lets get talking football banter now. I cant wait for 2 old firm games first one league cup second one scottish cup 2 square balls already in the hat for sky doing a deal?
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Airdrie are Airdrie UTD now.
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I can fully understand the point about not losing the history.
Whatever happens supporters will always regard the history as permanent.
One aspect of history that I hope we can forget is the bigotry (wherever it comes from) and the threats by some idiotic supporters of revenge.
Our team has been through hell so let's get back to the top in a dignified manneer for the sake of the game and our country's reputation.
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01 Aug 2012 05:39:58
prediction 1 half the premier league teams in admin within weeks . not happened yet , prediction 2 sky to drop scottish football ,, seems not for 5 year prediction 3 celtic to win league by christmas ,,,, not yet but the only one i think yous were correct on
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Only reason sky deal is on is because Rangers are included mmmmmm but will the fans pay to watch sky football involving Rangers, don't think so cos they will be financing the SPL clubs.
The TV deal will help the other clubs in the SPL financially, but the pressure is still on them.
Smeltic to win the league by Christmas, good chance and then remainder of the season will be all about the League cup and scottish cup cos you'll be finished with your euro games.
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If thats the case could you please advise me what it is like for your club to be in Administration?. This will a bit of a new experiance for the rest of us.
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Not sure its that great a deal when u consider over 17 million has been knocked of the TV deal.
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I think people were saying if sky stuck with SPL it would be reduced value, which has come true. As for the first here is still time.
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Ok to start off the leagues not even begun yet a few teams could very well enter admin (hope not) knowone seems to be able to make any transfers , Prediction 2 Sky offer a TV deal less than 1/4 the value of the old one and insist on showing Gers games, Prediction 3 Super Celtic to win the league by Christmas I dont thinkso yous better win all ur games if u want that too happen, u can predict all you like theres only one thing certain in all of this and thats you being something that starts with W & rhymes with Caliper!
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1. the spl season not started yet? 2. only got a very reduced deal from sky because rangers involved ie you never signed the 80 million deal that was on the table and 3. yes celtic will have the spl wrapped up by xmas...mark.
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Wait till Christmas we will see who are still in business. Sky have agreed a much reduced figure and only then when agreed to show Rangers games. Celtic will have won the league not by Christmad but by end of first eleven games, October probably.
A competition with no competition is nothing
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Half the SPL teams in administration within weeks?
Wishful thinking I can only assume. {Ed039's Note - No chance this will happen)
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01 Aug 2012 00:46:11
Gers youth got a run out tonight at beith juniors, kal Naismith full game, wee Crawford seemingly had a great game too.
Don't know the scorers though??
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How do you know who had a good game but dont know the score?
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What was the score?
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3-0 to gers
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Pmsl, yous lot are so laughable.
Finbar {Ed039's Note - Whats so funny?)
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3-0 rangers. On the beith website but not letting me read the match report:s
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It was 3-0 i was at it
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31 Jul 2012 23:46:00
well thats 2 of our elite oot already and one of them replaced "the rangers "....in the cl....what a state of affairs...oh and the 3rd won goes oot tomorrow....deecee
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Cl qualifiers, scottish team loses to Greek team, now where did we hear that before?
Oh yes it was those guys on ebts that's right. Worry about falkirk.
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I would be willing to bet you anything no team goes out tomorrow.Still posting rubbish decay eh?
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Like your club would have fared much better than Motherwell against Panathinaikos with your coach who is a genius against European opposition, as last season proved?
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Your post is.. As usual very stupid. 3 days after needing extra time to scrape past the mighty Brechin, with six full internationals in your team, you have no right to slag off anyone especially Motherwell who played against very good european opposition. Maybe time for your medication decay.
Briggs
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Is that the limit of your ability, just being so bitter, that others have had the chance, to represent Scotland..... Just remember you are in this position purely because of the makings of your own management.
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A lot of Rangers fans must live in some sort of fantasy world were they are up there with Barcelona or something.
Below is Rangers results in Europe for the last 4 years:
2008–09
Champions League Second Qualifier
Lithuania FBK Kaunas 0 – 0, 1 – 2
2009–10
Champions League Group G
Germany VfB Stuttgart 1 – 1, 0 – 2
Spain Sevilla 1 – 4, 0 – 1
Romania Unirea Urziceni 1 – 4, 1 – 1
2010–11
Champions League Group C
Manchester United 0 – 0, 0 – 1
Turkey Bursaspor 1 – 0, 1 – 1
Spain Valencia 1 – 1, 0 – 3
Europa League Last 32
Sporting Lisbon 1 – 1, 2 – 2[13]
Last 16
PSV Eindhoven 0 – 0, 0 – 1
2011–12
Champions League Third Qualifier
Sweden Malmö 0 – 1, 1 – 1
Europa League Play-off Qualifier
Slovenia NK Maribor 1 – 2, 1 – 1
1 win in 4 years, or 22 games. Don't think we'll really miss you in Europe either.
Shug
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@3 slagging ally coz lemon has done an outstanding job for yous he still hasnt won a game thats mattered in fact all he has won is a tainted title
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Our European results might not be that great but still the biggest club in Scotland. That's why your on our page and not your own. RTID
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And 2008?When we got to the UEFA cup final?That may have done Scotland's efficiency well.But,last year,were you not reinstated after losing 3-1?(Ok,Sion may/may not of cheated)Or Braga?Utrecht?So yeah,Celtic aren't European Gods either.
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31 Jul 2012 21:29:16
Is anyone else concerned at the size of the contracts being handed out its financial suicide all over again. Even with 35-40,000 season tickets at the reduced prices with next too no prize or tv money and undoubtley a reduction in sponsor/corporote monies the club would struggle to cover its operating costs even if all players played for nothing add to that the taking on of the old football debts plus the fact the 5.5 million initial outlay was a loan its clear massive debts are being run up. I think bill millers' projection was a ten million loss for each of the first 3 years(looks optimistic although he may have been more cautious) i can only assume green is banking on the share issue raising upwards of 50million to keep things afloat for 2-3 years still seems very risky and will make the share issue a do or die strategy. Hope everyone is saving up!
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First considered post on here in a while. Bears need to tighten their belts and buckle down for a long haul. Rome wasn't built in a day. You need strong foundations built over seasons or it's another house of cards on the way. Good luck , work your way back into the SPL and let's put all this behind us. Hail hail joe
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No idea how 35- 40k season tickets would "not cover operating costs". Sounds like complete rubbish.
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Has administration written all over it.
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This is the only strategy that will put us back on our feet. A short time ago, Dave King said that this was the only possible scenario to move forward. Hopefully Charles Green has the funding and then we[ the fans.] will have the opportunity to buy in to our club and erase the damage done by murray and whyte.
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Our wage bill is tiny compared to previous years. The TV money is irrelevant to us, season tickets are our main source of income and we will have 40,000 sold. Also all other revenue streams such as catering and merchandise is now back with he club after all contracts were void with liquidation.
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Signings will be frees or loans and we won't be spending at all for another 12 months at least.
stay calm - plod on
bil72
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15,000 season tickets more like. No way 35-40k season ticket holders will remain through 3 SFL campaigns.
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@5: all of the players who transferred to newco will be on their previous wage so it won't be tiny until they go.
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31 Jul 2012 21:58:39
Anybody know the details of the Sky deal?
DR says 5 Rangers games but Sun says 15?
I've already dropped Sky Sports and won't be paying £26/mnth for a paltry 5 games - sorry Sky
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5 games over the expected 3 seasons = the 15
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Thought it was 45 gers games over 3 years- 15 games a season?
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It's five on sky ten on espn
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Sky 5 games
ESPN 10 games
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5 games per season on sky the orher 10 per season is on espn 15 games per season
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31 Jul 2012 21:44:35
Lol st Johnston out Motherwell out all we need is Celtic to get beat tomorrow it's not rangers fault this time wake up and smell the coffee use are waisting all the work we have done ure rankings are going to go downhill w don't worry we will be back to restore our pride in cl c'mon Helsinki
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"All the work we have done" that being one win in twenty five games. Keep your contribution and for the record this is the last season for the UEFA run so for three years your contribution will be near zero, so just like the last four really. You'll have a Euro rating comparable to Welsh teams by the time you get back in. If I was you I'd start praying Scottish teams do well, may be the only thing to stop you coming in at who knows what level if and when you get back into Europe.
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No wonder no one likes or wants to help your club.
I expected this bitter nonsence, just shows the contempt some morons have for the Scottish game.
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What a childish little rant. Hard to believe your slagging Motherwell for getting beat of a team with a decent pedigree after you struggled to beat Brechin City in extra time. Please bare in mind that The Rangers have no European experience or history and that oldco Rangers got humped out of Europe at the first hurdle last year. No wonder nobody likes you with this stinking little attitude. Pedro
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At least they got their chance.Better than down in Div 3 and snatching a win on Sunday.Good luck to ALL the teams.I'm not a 'hater' but a lover of football--you can watch your rivals and be gracious.That's what's so lacking in many of our (and other)supporters.Good luck to ALL Scotish teams
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Just a bitter little man, concentrate on yourselves have you noticed your team is spending money they don't have again why don't you worry about that
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Yes, Rangers did a great job last year to help the coefficient...
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Just nearly same as last year.. so no difference we didnt exactly set the heather on fire last year either did we
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I hope Celtic get gobbed to which in away I'm ashamed to admit because I always wanted Scottish teams to do well in Europe. But after the hatred shown towards rangers over the last five months I could not care less if they get totally pumped
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I take it from your post that you are part of the moronic minority in the Rangers support. I say minority but it seems to be a 50/50 split almost with agrees and disagrees....maybe the minority, but only just!
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Well it seems you are now the enemies of scottish football. Well done.
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Rangers are he only team to accumulate any coefficient points for the country over the past 3 years. Remember we beat sporting Lisbon in Europa? Ran PSV close, also sme decent results in CL group that year. What did Yous do? That's right got pumped off Utrect and Braga - forgot how much Celtic contributed doh
Haha
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@1 Last Scottish team to reach a euro final? This in itself boosted the co-efficient ratings.
I see you're avoiding your own club's exemplary away record in euro. One win in the last 32 away games.
Now surely Helsinki, gotta be the one!
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More sad celtic stalkers on our page. Still obsessed I see. Lol
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@11: one win in 22 matches is just brilliant, isn't it.
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@13: the OP and others referred to Celtic - do their fans not have a right to reply? Remember this isn't a Rangers fans only page.
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31 Jul 2012 21:41:45
Dates of the rangers FTT meeting been released, these were confidential until judgement release to attendees, then its 5 days to public release...
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OP can you write that again in a way that makes sense
JG
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