Rangers Banter Archive February 01 2014

01 Feb 2014 18:02:09
How long must we watch this c**p from mccoist Frazier aird does nothing all day!what does ally do takes Sheila's & temps off first, I give up

No wonder the crowds are dropping off having to endure that rubbish. Woeful again and I am now feeling embarrassed for Ally. Clueless is being to kind

Shocking substitutions today Aird hide for most of the game yet Templeton who was our most dangerous player. Also Little and Foster again were shown up today. Ally is doing a great job at chasing the fans away

Spot on Stewie if Ally does not go the spaces in ground will become a total embarrassment, and will without doubt CHASE any possible investor.

@1. 2 and 3 agreed! But what are McDowell and Durrant doing about this? Do they not talk to Ally? Are they watching different games from the rest of us? Forget 40,000 crowds we have fallen into the 20,000 mark and this board will not have based survival figures on this level of match day income. OP I still think Aird will come good but currently Templeton is the best forward and if the management team cannot see that its just as well we have a good start on Dunfermline because they have done okay in the transfer window. Hopefully we can get 25 points ahead of them because if things do not improve we might get back to the crowds of under 10,000 who eventually materialised in the latter days of John Greig's management.
Every Bear wanted Ally to do well but we had to play attractive football in addition to grinding out wins to attract the crowds and we simply ain't doing that.
Dunfermline at East End Park I enjoyed but generally it has been help murder polis.
Kane Hemmings 1 st Division top scorer let go- who on here doesn't think that is another error?. McAusland never let us down but cannot get a game. Wee Barry McKay out at Morton for the rest of the season -him and McAusland could solve the problem right flank width. Wee Barry one of our few players who can run with his head up and see the spaces.
Until I see McAusland at right back Gasparatto in central defence, McLeod in central midfield instead of Black, MacKay and Templeton regularly starting my season ticket is going to gather dust because that is just not good enough- it's painful in the extreme. And that pains me to say so- there is no pleasure in saying this but the current management team couldn't manage a piss up in an effn brewery.

20,000 crowds is still a great crowd for the standard of football getting produced.

Heres a surprise for you Nbear2, I disagree about Hemmings he had plenty chances at Ibrox and he didn't look anything special to me and they wern't exactly queueing up for his signature when we released him but maybe he has improved and I really hope he makes it big. I agree about the others though, I think, after yesterdays game, that its time for Black to be put on the bench until he finds his form and hopefully Gasperatto will get his chance when Mohsni is suspended.

@ JYF you do surprise me but it's all about opinions. Going back to the bulldozer agreed a wheel has come off- the steering wheel- just no direction or an ability in the management team to positively change the direction.

For me Black has been a big disappointment as I thought he was a decent player for Hearts and Caley Thistle but seems to stifle Law and I want to see young Lewis in his position. McLeod with Law would drive the team forward much more than Black does IMO.

01 Feb 2014 17:11:19
Win our next 5 games, with the 5th at home to Dumfermline on March 15th assuming they don't drop any points before then we would be 26points clear with 24pts Available? I think that's correct lol!

I think this is the scenario but one game at a time,

2nd admin would cost 25pts. so we would still get promoted.

01 Feb 2014 07:30:39
Well Gers fans, everybody must be happy now surely. Ally played a blinder in the transfer window, he held on to our biggest assets, and let's not kid ourselves, he must have been under a bit of pressure, and he didn't bring any players in. Win/Win so let's get behind the team AND the manager today and hopefully we will bulldoze Brechin and win "with style"

01 Feb 2014 09:28:23
It must be great being able to completely divorce your mind from the financial reality of the club OP. Yeah everythings hunky dory now, all thanks to Ally's shrewdness in the transfer market. Phew! For a few years there I thought we had money problems, glad that's over then. That 15% pay cut request must've just been a weird blip, let's foget all about it, we'll probably never hear anything more on that front. Worries over. Same squad, same wage bill - no problem. We can now sit back and enjoy bulldozing plumbers. What a relief!

You jest of course, only reason he didn't go was no one would pay the money. Either we have got enough money to get us through to end of season or W allace like the rest before is playing the wait and see game. No playrrs have went no wages dropped same old so half way on his 120 days and ee still losing the same m8ney. strange cost cutting.

@1 and @2 Wasn't expecting that. So what are we saying then? That we should have sold Wallace and Law and terminated a few contracts --What?
If Wallace had left that would have shown us that we will not be back at the top any time soon so I trust our CEO that we will be competing next season. Si at lest I will be at Ibrox watching us bulldozing Brechin with style, enjoy your half empty glass lads and lassies.

Glasses working well unlike your rose tinted ones. Do you really think we are a 1 player team ie Wallace? Selling a player doesn't mean we don't wish to compete it means we are at last attempting to balance the books. Have you really not picked up the fact that we are losing millions at an alarming rate? If we have to sell players to keep going then it has to happen, don't kid yourself if Forest or anyone else had made a decent offer he would have been  sold. Then what would you have done? Finshed your half empty glass and wallked away from Rangers?sounds like you would have? May be wrong though you may not be just a glory hunter instead you actualy may be Charles Green having another laff.

01 Feb 2014 15:42:12
Not sure how full or empty the glass is but the problem is its cracked and leaking through a big hole in the bottom and knocking ten past brechin ain't going to fix it. You'll catch on eventually.

Jyf. Yes, I hope we win today, but you must commute from another planet, ''Ally played a blinder in the transfer window''. He was not allowed to sign anyone and if a reasonable offer came in for any member of the team, they would have been off.
We need an injection of cash to keep us going and I wouldn't be too sure about next season, just yet.

OP this is a cheap shot- sorry but who the feck forgot to put fuel in the bulldozer?

01 Feb 2014 19:08:16
"Ally played a blinder in the transfer window, he held on to our biggest assets"

He held on to our biggest assets?

I thought the only real interest anybody had on any of our assets was Forest's bid for Wallace.

If Ally was playing a blinder the team would be playing attractive football and then I'm sure many more clubs would have been sniffing around. As it is from what I hear (and I'm boycotting Ibrox) attendances are going down on a weekly basis due to the dire football and the team being booed off at full time.

Some blinder.

What did anybody expect! Sign players ie Miller & Boyd.
We are now on a reduced wage bill from last year and well clear in this division.
So why sign anybody to waste 6 months contract for the next stage.
Also no fire sale or contracts terminated does this not say a thousand words!
Dounebear

01 Feb 2014 21:14:30
@9 Yes it does say a thousand words, but not the ones you're hinting at. The words start, "A few weeks ago RFC felt the need to ask all playing staff to take a 15% pay cut. They refused to do so. Now the transfer market has closed with no new players adding to the wage bill but equally none out the door. So the club is still stuck with a wage bill it can't afford. This presents a serious problem which hasn't gone away and to which there is no obvious solution. The tension between the players and the board remains as there has been no reassurance from the board that they are now looking to save that money elsewhere in the business. Yet somehow, incredibly, a section of the fans seem to think that no-one out the door during January is a good thing, a sign that all must in fact be healthy. This 'feel good' factor seems to be jusified amongst this section by the fact that, with the squad we can't afford, we are continuing to scrape by against teams like brechin every week. They ignore the fact that the gate receipts are suffering because the crowd are finding it increasingly unpleasant watching demoralised players have humiliation heaped on them by struggling against postman pat and windy miller in front of their home crowd, and that this is only adding to the financial problems the club is facing imminently. " that's for starters, there's a few hundred words left if anyone else wants to pick up the story from there.

The reason nobody left was that no decent offer was made its not surprising though eh of the players we would like to sell nobody wants to buy but who could blame them evin if offers came in for our fringe players they would not get the wages they get at ibrox so these types of players are happy enough to sit around money for nowt its alright if you can get it eh

Pauline have you ever anything positive to say? We all know there is financial problems, but mentioning it on rangers rumours every day is no going to solve them, people are allowed to be positive without people like you coming on with the glass is leaking, the titanic has got a hole in it p**h. The players will no doubt be affected by this financial talk aswell, but to their credit, they are winning games, maybe not flawless victorys, but not many teams do at any level, be happy while we climb the leagues.

OK I took a dooin for that one but an open question to all, what do you think would have happened to the £1.5mil if Notts Forrest had stumped up and would we be a better team without Wallace, who was man of the match today and one of only a couple who got pass marks.
Whilst I'm here I don't hear too many people slaughtering Mohsni for another childish, petulant, I'm too good for this league sending off seems its only big Jig that gets it.

02 Feb 2014 11:13:33
@12 There is merit in life in being able to focus on the positives, but sometimes you just need to face up to the fact that you're in a bad situation and need to step back and look at things objectively, instead of just wanting everything to be ok. For the avoidance of doubt, I have every respect for the players who, yes, are continuing to scrape wins in a very uncertain situation where they have been demoralised in public by the board and been given a big reason to be anxious about the security of their incomes. But do you honestly think the players would agree with your conclusion that while "we all know there is financial problems" to say "the glass is leaking" is "p##h"? How on earth can you conclude that? On the contrary, the players will know only too well what you are obstinately refusing to face up to - we can't sell players on because we pay them too much, and we can't afford to keep paying them ourselves. That spells Trouble with a capital T. To pretend otherwise is to utterly disrespect the dire situation that our players are facing just now. So when you so glibly pat yourself on the back for 'looking on the bright side' that is in fact just being insensitive to the players plight. While I'm glad we're winning of course, and proud of the players for doing so, only a fool could feel "happy" about it. that's like being happy that the people who are dismantling and taking away your house bit by bit are still serving you a hot dinner every night. I like a hot dinner as much as anyone, but i'll only be happy once I know the roof is secure mate. The signs are currently written large that it aint.

Johncass. You are deluded if you think there is a future for us if we continue as we are. Also, to criticise people who face the reality of our predicament is really sad. No, pathetic, as with fans that think there is an easy fix, there is no hope. We are not just on the verge of administration, our plight is grim.
Pauline happens to one of the realists, who, along with others, are only stating the obvious.

Ally, my glass is half full mate and I've never been called a glory hunter before and I won't EVER be walking away so let's get that straight.
I honestly didn't think my post was that controversial, Wallace is our best player by a mile and, no, he would not have been sold unless a GOOD offer came in same as any player but we are not a one man team. So what is it you moanin minis want? Tell us. If we sell our top players people will not renew now your saying that because we kept our best players people won't renew if we play all youths we will start losing and people will not renew if we don't get promotion. Tell us what you want and how you would go about getting it. Me, I want a strong team on the pitch and I'd get that by investing the season ticket money properly and stopping the ludicrous bonuses and consultancy payments. Nbear, there is plenty fuel in the bulldozer its just that a couple of wheels have come off lately.

There you go again, we all know there is problems, but when someone is being positive on here, your constantly on trying to put a negative spin on it. About your "glass is leaking" comment it was said about you writing stupid things like that during your negative posts nothing to with what the players would think. why don't you stop eating your hot dinner and do something positive about your house if your so worried? Or do you see yourself as doing your bit with your post?

Billyb as a says we know the financial side ain't good, but tell me why try to have a go at people for daring to be positive about something? It's not just on this thread but every thread Pauline posts on that's why a says something.

Johncass. Being positive is one thing but the negatives of our current predicament are such, that they far outweigh anything else.
Green has put us on the edge and still people don't realise that the footballing side, at present, is insignificant while we are in this financial mess.
I'm sorry but we, as a club, are a total shambles and I don't see any positives in that.

Billyb you never answered me? the negatives outweigh the positives? Least your on the ball. If you don't see any positives about us as a club then do something about it then, and you call me sad and pathetic lol.

Johncass. Without drawing this out, I have taken my actions regarding our club. The positives, such as they may be, are a spit in the ocean in our current predicament.
However, I stand by my comments regarding those that are sweeping under the carpet the situation that prevails.

02 Feb 2014 21:24:26
@17 i'm not trying to put a negative spin on 'anything anyone says positive'. If you look back at all of my posts you'll see that what gets me going every time is trying to redress the balance when people come out with ridiculously naive, overly positive statements like the one that started this thread off ("everyone must be happy now surely that ally has played a blinder in the transfer market"). I can't stand to see that form of stupidity dressed up as loyalty. Ok maybe my metaphors ain't so clever sometimes but to attack my turn of phrase without discussing the situation i'm describing is just ignoring the real issue. And yes I do think i'm doing something positive with my posts - the only way the fans can ever actually do something powerful is if we all see the truth clearly so that we can all agree. I'm trying to do my small bit to make more people stop to think twice about what's going on. I don't have all the answers by any means but i'm doing my best to do something in the small way that I can. If everyone else did what they can then together it might all add up to something. Maybe we both need to calm doon a bit, maybe sound too moany at times, but look back at my posts and you'll see I have only ever been provoked by the worst kind of head in the sand naivete that is sure to leave our beloved club in the hands of rogues.