Rangers Banter Archive May 01 2013

01 May 2013 23:38:36
ally at it again getting linked with players but not actually signing anyone he does even know his budget a real push to get st money in

01 May 2013 19:07:17
Cristian Trombetta is on trial with Rangers, most likely will sign. Cribari mark II

Can't see his signing. Usual, ok u look good kid, here's the ridiculous offer. Lad walks away laughing.
Ibrox media release. Could not agree terms. Lol.

What happened to the 3 guys from ecudour that were signing

Pesonally i'm be worried by this suggested signing! A 6 foot 4 inch left back who's only played 90 odd games in his whole career at 26 years old. 30 odd of those games in the 3rd tier of Argentinian football (Primera B Metropolitana) and only 34 games in the last 4 seasons. 2 games in the whole of 2012. This transfer is an absolute nonsense. This guy is a no one, but because he's argentinian the club think we will buy into this sh*te. If anyone at the club was in touch with what the supporters want they would be looking at Nicky Clark, Lyle Taylor, Nicky Law, Michael Higdon, Tom Hateley, Connor Newton of St. Mirren etc. Players who are tried and tested in the scottish leagues.

I'm worried because the only reason we would have Ally parading this guy (when he's only on trial aswell) is to give the fans the impression things are ok when they are not. A 6 foot 4' left back who's only played in the climates of Argentina, Mexico and Portugal for the second division of scottish football. This is embarrassing.

@2. Greens Moonbeams

@ #3,

He is 6'1" not 6'4". Yes he's has played a handfull of games but played enough games to get a winners medal for the Argentinian premeria closing stage in 2012, not 2 games as you said. From what I have seen he has had a falling out with his manager in Mexico, it happens here a lot and players are still good enough for other teams and have no problems. He must be good enough to go from 3rd division in Argentina to Portugal and then straight to Argentinian premeria.

what is more important is why we are looking at him does it not make you think Wallace will be away or hopefully moving to left wing.

Heed

@5/ Your post could have been about Cribari. That hardly worked out did it?

He's 6 foot 4.

Wikipedia 1. 92m (6ft 4)

a web site 1. 92m

World football. net 6ft 4

ESPN fc player stats 1. 92m

Transfer Market.com 1. 92m

Footballzz. co. uk 1. 92m

I don't recognise half of these sites but that would be because no one else knows who he is. But I can tell you I would take my information from the beano let alone these first 6 sites I found before the daily r*cord or the s*n.

This transfer is a joke.

Fn left back is the last position we need to strengthen, do our management team actually think about the team overall and how any signings would fit into our squad before they bring players in

01 May 2013 13:34:33
The last home game of the season is our last chance to make our voice heard before all the financial wranglings that will no doubt come, so how about a boycott on all club match day sales ie programmes etc? just an idea since money rules their world you never know.

Only a non Bear would suggest such a boycott. Thanks for your opinion though. I have no doubt that more headlines of the negative variety will appear in the coming weeks.

Are you serious?

Great idea. let's starve the club of income, that way when we can't make as many signings as we need during the summer we can blame the management and directors! Genius.
GCUK

02 May 2013 11:20:48
Personally I think they should starve Ally of his wages. At a moment when report after report are telling us how obese we are in Scotland I don't think he's setting an example. He was once a pin-up boy but now he's shockingly overweight - even a grizzly bear couldn't get his arms around Ally's waist. And with that reported salary and bonus of his, he could be spending time in the gym, doing yoga and eating healthy foods.

So come on Ally, do the right thing. You know its all for everyone's best interests.

Haven't posted for a while because I thought things were settling down. But they are not - things are getting worse.

From what I've read, there is nothing to suggest that other companies with "Rangers" in the title that have Green as a Director are subsidiaries of the club. Therefore, as it stands at the moment, none of us knows if any of the income from the sales of replica strips, to match day programmes, to pies and bovril, actually goes into the club!

All I can see going into TRIFC is ST money and maybe some shares money - but yet again, none of us knows just how much that is!

The total lack of transparency is extremely worrying. If there is plenty money in the club, then it would be a simple matter to tell us all how much.

I am worried that there is little money left. I am worried that another period of Administration is not too far away.

I sincerely hope I am wrong.

Good Luck, Good Bears,

Gerry

01 May 2013 10:26:41
Why don't we have fans representatives on the board. They could be chosen through a ballot of season ticket holders.

Are you mad? Then they'd hear the truth.
This club investigation into green, Ahmad links to Whyte is a red herring everyone knows the links and agenda. It's just the club pretending it doesn't.

Aye. Include too many folk and expect them all to keep the dignified silence, you run the risk of the truth reaching the ordinary punter in time for them to do something about it.

30 Apr 2013 23:19:15
see we have sold out on saturday hope the players don't let us down and give us a special performance that's well over due fans have been terrific now time to give us sumthing back our manager needs to start changing his signing policy of 28 plus players he has one last chance to get this right this summer if not then he has only got himself to blame and should leave I personally think he should go now and let the club rebuild before he signs any more duds on high wages I hope he proves me wrong just can't see it

Maybe it is just me but for us to be supposedly losing fortunes every month and Ally wanting millions to rebuild I did not think it would take a genius to work out we need to cut our wage bill not increase it. We can only do that by selling some of the big earners and bringing in new young talent for pennies. If you were Cribari etc would you leave? Ally was stupid enough to pay big bucks for a diddy so he will sit there and take his money until the end of his contract as will the others. Would not be surprised to see no investment, it is the only thing that makes sense to keep us afloat! Unfortunately "Murray Park" does not seem to be producing any talent capable of playing at any great level and that lies with Walter, Ally etc. Need new management team to take the club forward or we will waste more money on older players who pretend to love the club but realise it would be their last big pay day.

At the start of the season Ally should have been told youth was the only way to get the club back on track. It might have taken a few years longer to return to the spl but the club would have been getting stronger every year. If he did not agree he should have been shown the door and a good coach with a track record in bringing young players through brought in. Without cost cutting 4 new players on 5 thousand a week is another £1 million a year. this has to stop!

Why is Ally the only one who doesn't understand this? also how come he always understands the fan concerns over boardroom matters yet blatantly ignores our concerns over his signings, tactics, formations etc?

30 Apr 2013 22:02:43
Evening guys was wondering if someone can clarify something for me.
If Craig Whyte was found to have mislead ticketus in funding the rangers takeover and that is illegal, surely then using that money to fund the take over renders his claim to be a director of sevco nul and void as he gained control by illegal means. Any thoughts

It does not affect his claim to be involved with sevco5088 at all.

No it is irrelevant. Sevco 5088 was separate company entirely with no link when formed to the old RFC companies

Yes I hope your right, and BDO sell to the highest bidder, start again, its the only way forward get rid of all the s**** that's circling Ibrox, whyte and green are just parasites, BDO are our only saviors now, just wish they would hurry up, before green tries to offload his shares

In all honesty I don't know anymore mate. Whilst your point makes perfect sense I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't anywhere near as straightforward as that. Sure it would be different if it was you or I that had lied to obtain credit and spent it on a fancy motor though! or bumped the taxman! Funny thing is, I'd be trying to keep a low profile in a similar situation whereas these chancers are all up in the papers having the brass neck to be taking folk to court etc. unbelievable!. The rich get richer right enough!

Actually it would jeopardise the sale by Murray to Whyte and subsequently the sale to the Green Consortium, whose "exclusivity" was financed by Whyte. IT's a madhouse.

Sounds about right to me buddy, although i'm no expert ( I expect you will get a reply from an expert from the east very soon, his initial is G btw, ),, the google eyed rat is in deep with ticketus, and it could spill over to us as well, they have him by the balls, hopefully itl end up with him in jail for a long time,, I agree with you, I would expect his takeover to be fraudulent, at least, and hopefully the ticketus case will be corporate theft,. Tommyblue

See that's the difference between me and you Tommyblue, I don't say "I'm no expert" and then write nearly another 4 lines on the subject. I write either facts or suggestion and don't go in for the part Columbo, part Rumpole that some of you think you are very capable at.

Gaz

I don't think that that Ticketus are claiming that they were mislead anyway. They are just claiming what they are due and Whyte is, apparently, personally liable. The problem is that he is contesting that he personally, has a claim to the assets. Ticketus have an interest in him winning that claim. It's no coincidence that the chairman of the company who are taking on Whyte's claim against Green et al is also a director of Ticketus parent company.

How does this keep getting misunderstood. Craig Whyte didn't use Ticketus money to buy rangers, he bought rangers for £1 and as far as I know that £1 was from his own (ahem) wealth. Now I never trusted the guy from the beginning but there's no way anyone could contest he didn't have the funds (£1!) to buy the club.

He used the ticketus money to pay off the lloyds debt, why does this get glossed over- it was the bank that demnaded repayments were made, 90% of clubs in spl have multi million pound debts but it was only us that were made to pay back such a huge amount.

And why would they not demand their money back? 18m to a bust company is a large sum to have out there, especially with the well documented troubles of the SDM empire. You keep going on about Lloyds, but you guys are lucky they got paid off. I guarantee they would have security over the assets and if they called it in you wouldn't be going now. Anyone care to disagree? Aberdeen might have large debts (not sure which bank though) but Stewart Milnes business' are vastly different from SDM, hence the bank may be more relaxed. i'm astonished you keep pointing the finger at the bank. They would taken the whole lot off youvand not stood for any D&P nonsense. Frankly astonished that you all can't see that.

BDO is only the answer if someone would be willing to pay the fair market value for the assets. My fairest guess would be around 30 million. The problem that would exist is if HMRC win the final appeal then we would be liable.

@9

I do not get it, how much did it cost him again?

FFS. See all this "sold for a pound" nonsense, that was just to elicit sympathy for Murray, like he walked away seriously out of pocket. He got £18m pound of debt cleared. The club was bought with £18m and one of the fans' money